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Old 17-07-2017, 06:48 PM   #581
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Well - you've all gone down in my estimation when you argue about IQ levels on David Icke's Forum ha ha
I can't believe you all fall for that scam...

Lets take a look at the people that have the supposedly highest IQ in the world.

William Sidis - IQ 250 to 300 - highest IQ in history.

Went to Uni at 11 and suffered socially , had no close friendships. (Not that I see that as a problem but some people see that as not very intelligent for someone who was interested in politics - not being able to socialise would hold him back in the career he wanted)

A life marred by legal trouble after participating in socialist movements, put in a mental institute by his parents for his political beliefs. (Not so clever)

After that he gave up maths and academics and lived a normal life.
Until 46 when he died from natural causes.

And it's a test made up to get you to pay to join the mensa club (cult) or whatever - it's a scam.

Intelligence shouldn't just be about how good you are at maths.

Other highest IQ's - what did they achieve? Maths, maths, teaching, chess playing,
advice columnist, painter, chess again, more maths, books on theories...


So what does a high IQ bring you that a low one can't?

What does it do to help society?

Really?

NOTHING

Maybe compare the size of something else if you want to impress......

Or maybe they really are the most intelligent people on the planet - and the key to using that intelligence is to
do NOTHING and change NOTHING.

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Old 17-07-2017, 06:54 PM   #582
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Well - you've all gone down in my estimation when you argue about IQ levels on David Icke's Forum ha ha
I can't believe you all fall for that scam...

Lets take a look at the people that have the supposedly highest IQ in the world.

William Sidis - IQ 250 to 300 - highest IQ in history.

Went to Uni at 11 and suffered socially , had no close friendships. (Not that I see that as a problem but some people see that as not very intelligent for someone who was interested in politics - not being able to socialise would hold him back in the career he wanted)

A life marred by legal trouble after participating in socialist movements, put in a mental institute by his parents for his political beliefs. (Not so clever)

After that he gave up maths and academics and lived a normal life.
Until 46 when he died from natural causes.

And it's a test made up to get you to pay to join the mensa club (cult) or whatever - it's a scam.

Intelligence shouldn't just be about how good you are at maths.

Other highest IQ's - what did they achieve? Maths, maths, teaching, chess playing,
advice columnist, painter, chess again, more maths, books on theories...


So what does a high IQ bring you that a low one can't?

What does it do to help society?

Really?

NOTHING

Maybe compare the size of something else if you want to impress......

Or maybe they really are the most intelligent people on the planet - and the key to using that intelligence is to
do NOTHING and change NOTHING.
Tbh I couldn't care less about his silly IQ I've got no idea what he's doing in this thread denying rockets work in a vacuum and that the Earth is spinning is as dumb as you get
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Old 21-07-2017, 01:48 AM   #583
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Fanboy's out again I see...
Just watching your arse get handed to you

Im running out of popcorn here...
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Old 21-07-2017, 01:54 AM   #584
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so it can't be flat and spin? ever heard of a cd, or vinyl music album?
Yep and you're like a broken one....

how many times has the reason we cant manufacture moon rocks been explained??

now how about you explain how they do manufacture them then...or at least point us to someone/anyone who does explain how they are manufactured because I cant seem to find anyone who does??

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Old 21-07-2017, 03:42 AM   #585
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The moon is a giant artificial construct that generates the earth hologram inside an artificial black hole. Earth is quarantined from the rest of the universe because this planet is disgusting and has contagion.

The fact that the moon is perfectly located at 1:400'th distance from the sun at the perfect size ratio of 1:400 the size of the sun should be a clue it was engineered. This phenomena does not exist with any of the natural moons in our solar system or the known universe. Also, the moon does not rotate but always faces the same side against the earth.
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Old 21-07-2017, 07:08 AM   #586
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The moon is a giant artificial construct that generates the earth hologram inside an artificial black hole. Earth is quarantined from the rest of the universe because this planet is disgusting and has contagion.
Nice opinion but doesn't match observable reality.

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The fact that the moon is perfectly located at 1:400'th distance from the sun at the perfect size ratio of 1:400 the size of the sun should be a clue it was engineered. This phenomena does not exist with any of the natural moons in our solar system or the known universe.
Incorrect. The Moon has an elliptical orbit which varies the distance. Google annular eclipse for an example of what one looks like when the Moon is further away from earth.

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Also, the moon does not rotate but always faces the same side against the earth.
The Moon DOES rotate, it performs one rotation per orbit, which is the reason it DOES face the earth. It is called tidal locking and this occurs throughout the solar system with other Moons. Our Moon also librates exposing more than 50% of its surface area...caused by elliptical orbit and barycentre between earth and Moon.
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Old 21-07-2017, 05:50 PM   #587
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Just watching your arse get handed to you

Im running out of popcorn here...
jog on pal, it's all you seem to do is pop out from under your rock like the little kid standing behind a schoolyard bully. you have not posted anything of worth on these forums for ages. you have little to no input, seemingly have no independent thought in your brain...
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Old 21-07-2017, 05:55 PM   #588
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Yep and you're like a broken one....

how many times has the reason we cant manufacture moon rocks been explained??

now how about you explain how they do manufacture them then...or at least point us to someone/anyone who does explain how they are manufactured because I cant seem to find anyone who does??
NONE!

burden of proof is not mine I asked a question, and worded it several different ways. gave a coy example of how the hardest naturally occurring substance known to man can be made (this was ceased upon like a nurse treating a mosquito bite when the patient has fucking malaria!!), and also how we have (some in abundance) the base elements here on earth that is on the moon. now you and you're leader just choose to ignore the fact that rocks have been "made" and reconstituted for millenia, and geologists even go as far to state that a new 'geology' will be formed from man's interference with said topic...


leave this stuff to the non-knuckle dragging beings amongst us, why you go and get high again
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NONE!

burden of proof is not mine I asked a question, and worded it several different ways. gave a coy example of how the hardest naturally occurring substance known to man can be made (this was ceased upon like a nurse treating a mosquito bite when the patient has fucking malaria!!), and also how we have (some in abundance) the base elements here on earth that is on the moon. now you and you're leader just choose to ignore the fact that rocks have been "made" and reconstituted for millenia, and geologists even go as far to state that a new 'geology' will be formed from man's interference with said topic...


leave this stuff to the non-knuckle dragging beings amongst us, why you go and get high again

You had your question answered a dozen times you utter troll. One of the finest geologists on the planet says they can't be faked and gives a while host of fully explained reasons why not. As do his colleagues.

People like you are the also rans. You know less than nothing about this yet still act the arse. The response has been worded in easy childproof sentences.....it speaks volumes that you still don't understand any of it.

Owned again....dozens of times.
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You had your question answered a dozen times you utter troll. One of the finest geologists on the planet says they can't be faked and gives a while host of fully explained reasons why not. As do his colleagues.

People like you are the also rans. You know less than nothing about this yet still act the arse. The response has been worded in easy childproof sentences.....it speaks volumes that you still don't understand any of it.

Owned again....dozens of times.
no. you. didn't. you're just a cut n paste cowboy that cannot explain jack shit in it's most common denominator. no imagination, nothing to say for yourself, no self thought, no critical thinking... completely in the pocket of TPTB. never siding with icke yet never saying he's wrong, always quoting mainstream science, media, NASA and the world govt.... you're a nothing.

better to be an also ran than a never has been, never will be, and considered totally irrelevant by a lot of people on this site (according to my inbox). I called you out before regarding your shilling membership on this site and probing threads. now fuck off

"owned" how old are you.... go and join your fanclub under whichever 'moon' rock you want and play with each other's...

was I talking to you cod-piss face?

now who's trolling?

fucking retard that you are (yeah I know 3/5 points!!)

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Old 21-07-2017, 08:51 PM   #591
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no. you. didn't.
Yes I did. Loser....there it is again just below.

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you're just a cut n paste cowboy that cannot explain jack shit in it's most common denominator.
Correction, you are too dense to understand therefore you assume everyone is. I reference and back up my claims. People like you can't even make claims properly

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no imagination, nothing to say for yourself, no self thought, no critical thinking... completely in the pocket of TPTB. never siding with icke yet never saying he's wrong, always quoting mainstream science, media, NASA and the world govt.... you're a nothing.
And here goes the troll, with his ad-hom attacks yet again. One of us provides substantive well thought out posts, the other is a useless ex football hooligan who wouldn't recognise a rock if it flew over the Holt End with a big label saying ROCK.


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better to be an also ran than a never has been, never will be, and considered totally irrelevant by a lot of have trouble with people on this site (according to my inbox). I called you out before regarding your shilling membership on this site and probing threads. now fuck off
Fuck off? With people like you infesting this forum with your ignorance, I'll stick around

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"owned" how old are you.... go and join your fanclub under whichever 'moon' rock you want and play with each other's...
Yep. Owned, dozens of times.

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was I talking to you cod-piss face?

now who's trolling?
You are.

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fucking retard that you are (yeah I know 3/5 points!!)

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Urgh, what a truly ghastly repertoire of filth you spew out.

Here, once again for the reading challenged....

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/howdoweknow.htm
They Were Faked

Any geoscientist (and there have been thousands from all over the world) who has studied lunar samples knows that anyone who thinks the Apollo lunar samples were created on Earth as part of government conspiracy doesn't know much about rocks. The Apollo samples are just too good. They tell a self-consistent story with a complexly interwoven plot that's better than any story any conspirator could have conceived. I've studied lunar rocks and soils for 45+ years and I couldn't make even a poor imitation of a lunar breccia, lunar soil, or a mare basalt in the lab. And with all due respect to my clever colleagues in government labs, no one in "the Government" could do it either, even now that we know what lunar rocks are like.


-------->Lunar samples show evidence of formation in an extremely dry environment with essentially no free oxygen and little gravity.

-------->Some have impact craters on the surface and many display evidence for a suite of unanticipated and complicated effects associated with large and small meteorite impacts.

-------->Lunar rocks and soil contain gases (hydrogen, helium, nitrogen, neon, argon, krypton, and xenon) derived from the solar wind with isotope ratios different than Earth forms of the same gases. T

-------->They contain crystal damage from cosmic rays.

-------->Lunar igneous rocks have crystallization ages, determined by techniques involving radioisotopes, that are older than any known Earth rocks.

(Anyone who figures out how to fake that is worthy of a Nobel Prize.) It was easier and cheaper to go to the Moon and bring back some rocks than it would have been to create all these fascinating features on Earth. [After writing these words I learned that virtually the same sentiments had already been expressed by some of my lunar sample colleagues.]



My simplified list:

1. The rocks contain volcanic beads formed in low gravity.

2. Many contain zap pits from micro-meteorites impacts.

3. They all contain solar isotopes showing exposure to solar winds and solar events.

4. Their exterior helium 3 is stronger due to shallow penetrating solar wind.

5. Water found within the beads is of very rare isotopes and ratios.

6. These samples were being analysed 50 years ago.

7. Even a single element compressed carbon is detectable as fake in 2017.

8. It is impossible to remove all traces of water/oxygen/nitrogen interaction from terrestrial weathering.

9. There are 842lbs of the buggers! These include 3m core samples.

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Can members please note that this thread is on the main forums and stop behaving as if it's in RR.

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hi guys

i always assumed that icke used a lot of his resources from sitchin based translations of sumerian texts, but im sure the moon being a giant spaceship isnt mentioned anywhere?

hypothetical question. if david is right and he brings proofs to show that the moon is a spaceship, does that mean that everything that you have all believed so far, the evidence of things like the sumerian texts etc, need to be rejected? how would you feel if this happened?
A reminder of the op.
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jog on pal, it's all you seem to do is pop out from under your rock like the little kid standing behind a schoolyard bully. you have not posted anything of worth on these forums for ages. you have little to no input, seemingly have no independent thought in your brain...
Well no im not into jogging , I come on these forums to try to learn things and I rarely if ever post about things I know little about, so that is why, so , childish insults aside , could you post a link to someone who makes these moon rocks or is even involved in the process? This was a big issue for me when I was thinking they never went? then I can have a different independent thought other than the one I already have

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Islmanvslizards if the moon is a space ship we are all well in over our heads so there would be no hope at all if that were the case. It makes things like Dyson's Spheres or whatever they are called a possibility and we human beings cannot compete with that.

I think all they really know about the moon is that it apparently has a lot of titanium on it, which some think is unnatural, particularly toward the surface. That by itself doesn't mean someone put it there or used it as a cover. Oh and it apparently rang like a bell for quite a while when it was 'thumped' once which indicated hollowed out spaces perhaps or caverns I suppose on the inner parts. I recall reading that since this discovery they have found other hollowed out asteroids and moons and also tidal locked moons that don't rotate behaving much like our own.
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Well no im not into jogging , I come on these forums to try to learn things and I rarely if ever post about things I know little about, so that is why, so , childish insults aside , could you post a link to someone who makes these moon rocks or is even involved in the process? This was a big issue for me when I was thinking they never went? then I can have a different independent thought other than the one I already have
and once again the fanboy takes the stance of his messiah... WHERE HAVE I SAID THE ROCKS ARE FAKED? WHERE HAVE I SAID THEY WERE MANUFACTURED?

here's a link for you to look at, and find out for yourself about how 'humans' have been re-constituting rocks, soils, sands etc. for other purposes : for you!, and another to see just how common earth elements and common lunar elements compare : learn for yourself and another, if you're interested, in how basalt could be harvested without the fucking stupid assumption it's going to be 'earth weathered' : ooh!, look it's not weathered when it's formed, how inconvenient!!


your messiah calls anyone that goes against mainstream : science, media, govt. idiots. anyone that posts anything he won't explain fools, and anything he doesn't understand, well I can't post that here... learn for yourself


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and once again the fanboy takes the stance of his messiah... WHERE HAVE I SAID THE ROCKS ARE FAKED? WHERE HAVE I SAID THEY WERE MANUFACTURED?

here's a link for you to look at, and find out for yourself about how 'humans' have been re-constituting rocks, soils, sands etc. for other purposes : for you!, and another to see just how common earth elements and common lunar elements compare : learn for yourself and another, if you're interested, in how basalt could be harvested without the fucking stupid assumption it's going to be 'earth weathered' : ooh!, look it's not weathered when it's formed, how inconvenient!!


your messiah calls anyone that goes against mainstream : science, media, govt. idiots. anyone that posts anything he won't explain fools, and anything he doesn't understand, well I can't post that here... learn for yourself


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ok good so the moon rocks aren't faked ... we have found common ground at least
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and once again the fanboy takes the stance of his messiah... WHERE HAVE I SAID THE ROCKS ARE FAKED? WHERE HAVE I SAID THEY WERE MANUFACTURED?
You useless person. You've asked the same question a dozen times asking why not and had it answered a dozen times why not. Like the big troll you just ignored the dozen answers!!

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if you're interested, in how basalt could be harvested without the fucking stupid assumption it's going to be 'earth weathered' : ooh!, look it's not weathered when it's formed, how inconvenient!!
Basic basalt without the same ratios of elements as lunar rocks, ZERO solar isotopes, no solar wind exposure, no zap pits, no indication of formation in lower gravity, no damage from solar weathering. Let alone the brain numbing obvious age of the damn thing......duhhhhhh.

Even basic basic basalts can't be faked. YOU ARE USELESS


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Whoopie do, fat chance. You've contributed nothing to this thread or the flat Earth one where you turned it into a smutfest. Bye

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I think all they really know about the moon is that it apparently has a lot of titanium on it, which some think is unnatural, particularly toward the surface.
They know a lot more than that based on analysis of the lunar samples, numerous probes and numerous ALSEP experiments from Apollo.

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It doesn't indicate that at all. The seismometers were placed on the lunar surface by the Apollo astronauts. Various readings taken were from Moonquakes and Apollo hardware impacting the Moon.


Their conclusions were that the Moon rang like a bell because of....

https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/hom...oonquakes.html

"On Earth, vibrations from quakes usually die away in only half a minute. The reason has to do with chemical weathering, Neal explains: "Water weakens stone, expanding the structure of different minerals. When energy propagates across such a compressible structure, it acts like a foam sponge--it deadens the vibrations." Even the biggest earthquakes stop shaking in less than 2 minutes.

The moon, however, is dry, cool and mostly rigid, like a chunk of stone or iron. So moonquakes set it vibrating like a tuning fork. Even if a moonquake isn't intense, "it just keeps going and going," Neal says. And for a lunar habitat, that persistence could be more significant than a moonquake's magnitude."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow...ng_like_a_bell

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I recall reading that since this discovery they have found other hollowed out asteroids and moons and also tidal locked moons that don't rotate behaving much like our own.
Hollow asteroids? Where? All tidally locked Moons rotate. They perform a single rotation per orbit.
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They know a lot more than that based on analysis of the lunar samples, numerous probes and numerous ALSEP experiments from Apollo.



It doesn't indicate that at all. The seismometers were placed on the lunar surface by the Apollo astronauts. Various readings taken were from Moonquakes and Apollo hardware impacting the Moon.


Their conclusions were that the Moon rang like a bell because of....

https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/hom...oonquakes.html

"On Earth, vibrations from quakes usually die away in only half a minute. The reason has to do with chemical weathering, Neal explains: "Water weakens stone, expanding the structure of different minerals. When energy propagates across such a compressible structure, it acts like a foam sponge--it deadens the vibrations." Even the biggest earthquakes stop shaking in less than 2 minutes.

The moon, however, is dry, cool and mostly rigid, like a chunk of stone or iron. So moonquakes set it vibrating like a tuning fork. Even if a moonquake isn't intense, "it just keeps going and going," Neal says. And for a lunar habitat, that persistence could be more significant than a moonquake's magnitude."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow...ng_like_a_bell



Hollow asteroids? Where? All tidally locked Moons rotate. They perform a single rotation per orbit.
I just read that about the asteroids not two days back. Can't find it now but am trying. That single rotation hardly qualifies as a rotation as it just moves some, and it is actually the tidal lock that does that movement of the moon or asteroids so what is your fucking point? Don't answer you are not worth a breath any longer to me, you just want to come in here again posting other peoples info again as if you can explain it better than they. I don't care to hear it from you thanks anyway.
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