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Old 19-12-2012, 01:53 PM   #41
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I think people may be mistaking his Mormonism as acting, people of the Mormon faith are insanely happy people and devout Mormons try to remain that way no matter what.

But of course he could be acting.
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:01 PM   #42
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If I'm wrong and this really is a sloppily-staged psy-op, I'll forgive myself for being taken in by such amateurishness, but if those who are claiming we are seeing a blatant black op are proven wrong, they need to hang up their conspiracy theory boots for a while.
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:10 PM   #43
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Question Was That A Laugh?

I didn't see it that way. Could it be that he became a bit psychotic over all this and in the efforts of controlling his composure he ended up doing all that?
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:18 PM   #44
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I didn't see it that way. Could it be that he became a bit psychotic over all this and in the efforts of controlling his composure he ended up doing all that?
Sure it could, but all the bits added together - No. and seeing this from a
higher viewpoint than simply the conspiracy theorist point of view.
It is obvious, cause in the end it is an energy game - you feed your energy
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Behind this material body there is pure energy and the mind can direct the
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:23 PM   #45
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I am pretty sick of armchair Colombos, who have probably never dealt, long term, with people in extremely emotional situations.

look...........you cannot tell a persons long term emotional state from a 10 second glimpse
First of all, I'll think you'll find that many people have dealt with others in extremely emotional situations and know exactly what it looks like.

Secondly, we're not talking about what this person's emotional state is. Rather we're talking about whether a scene is real or acted.

I think it's fair to say that - whether the guy is real or not - much of his expression is not genuine. He clearly makes a completely conscious change of character for the camera as the interview starts. Maybe he just thought he had to look dramatic and heartbroken for the camera - we can't know - but we can still make a judgement about the authenticity of his expressions which is pretty weak.
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:26 PM   #46
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First of all, I'll think you'll find that many people have dealt with others in extremely emotional situations and know exactly what it looks like.

Secondly, we're not talking about what this person's emotional state is. Rather we're talking about whether a scene is real or acted.

I think it's fair to say that - whether the guy is real or not - much of his expression is not genuine. He clearly makes a completely conscious change of character for the camera as the interview starts. Maybe he just thought he had to look dramatic and heartbroken for the camera - we can't know - but we can still make a judgement about the authenticity of his expressions which is pretty weak.
We are all actors. Every day we put on performances for our family, friends and peers. Sometimes the real you breaks through, but most people are performing to other people's expectations.
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:28 PM   #47
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well I have only got to 2.30 min in so far on that clip and 2 things strike me...

1. why does his neck keep going funny and wrinkled?

2. At 2.14 ish....when a reporter asks the first question he is mumbling the question to himself before the question has finished being asked?

gonna finish watching the rest now ..lol x
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:53 PM   #48
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No...I don't buy it either.

If it wasn't for the Americans on this forum, I am starting to think I wouldn't believe anything about the place...total fabrication from start to finish.
Columbus crossed the ocean and found...a fully functioning 21st century movie studio!
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Old 19-12-2012, 02:59 PM   #49
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First of all, I'll think you'll find that many people have dealt with others in extremely emotional situations and know exactly what it looks like.

Secondly, we're not talking about what this person's emotional state is. Rather we're talking about whether a scene is real or acted.

I think it's fair to say that - whether the guy is real or not - much of his expression is not genuine. He clearly makes a completely conscious change of character for the camera as the interview starts. Maybe he just thought he had to look dramatic and heartbroken for the camera - we can't know - but we can still make a judgement about the authenticity of his expressions which is pretty weak.
I had similar thoughts. I watched it twice. The first time with the idea he was a complete actor. The second time I imagined he was a dad, but a dad who hardly knew or cared about his child (We have many of those in America). Both scenarios seem to fit with the mannerisms. Either way, he does appear to be acting a part.

Lest anyone make the insinuations as done to others on this thread that I have no basis to understand family members' grief, my brother was murdered when we were both children. My mother --decades later-- still refuses to talk to the media when they have their periodic reopenings of the cold case. I have a little bit of understanding of what the family of a murder victim goes through, via our own situation and the many other families we have contact with in our cold case murder victims' support groups.
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Old 19-12-2012, 03:00 PM   #50
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It is really strange to watch and reminded me straight away of that picture of the Mcs grinning from ear to ear posing for a picture with a t shirt days after their daughter went 'missing' how can any parent react in such a way??
I'm not so sure. It's possible to behave in weird ways when you lose somebody. Loads of people can go through weird feelings of euphoria after someone close to them has died, happened to me that way. You can behave in weird ways that don't make any sense.

Suddenly he's confronted with the cameras and reality sets in again.
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Old 19-12-2012, 03:09 PM   #51
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Columbus crossed the ocean and found...a fully functioning 21st century movie studio!
Lol....nice one.
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Old 19-12-2012, 03:11 PM   #52
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How would you react in front of the media in this tragic situation.

Maybe he is trying to be strong then just falls to the grief of loosing his daughter.

Some things should be left alone.

Most likely this piece of shit went nuts and deprived all these parents of there children.
Ask yourself how would you react.
Maybe you are so sick of crying and try to be brave but talking about it makes you break and then some douche posts up a video on youtube because he thinks that you aren't behaving how a grieving father should well I say fuck you.
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Old 19-12-2012, 03:12 PM   #53
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I'm not so sure. It's possible to behave in weird ways when you lose somebody. Loads of people can go through weird feelings of euphoria after someone close to them has died, happened to me that way. You can behave in weird ways that don't make any sense.

Suddenly he's confronted with the cameras and reality sets in again.
Good post phigment.
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Old 19-12-2012, 03:12 PM   #54
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They love to maintain a climate of fear, fear of our neighbors, fear of AL-CIA-QAEDA, programs like Home-front back this mind programming up, misery fiction, always negative and always they are the saviors. When its the reverse of this.

It's all bullshit and bad for you. I don't believe any of their lies any more, I just see desperation as their walls are closing in around them. Fuck them, they have run out of time..
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Old 19-12-2012, 03:32 PM   #55
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I have just sat and watched the whole of that video bit by bit and something is not right with it at all...my step father does his job and there is no way..he would speak or act like that.

He gave no medical detail. He didn't know the ages of the children..or gender ratio of the children....yet he had just finished the report on them all by one thirty???


He talks of taking photos and control...well relatives are only given that if the body has decayed or serious facial injuries...otherwise any relative can an should see the deceased if they want to...thats odd!!

Then when asked if the gunman killed himself...He says No..then No I don't know yet..I don't think so????..well is it no..or i don't have that information at hand?...who did examine the gunman because it clearly wasn't him!!

He turns numerous times to the officer on left of the film for reassurance and nods.
He was asked was everyone it more than once?
He said everyone was hit more than once..well if it was a nutty bloke it would be more random..some shot serveral times some once and some with injuries...he confirms some things then contradicts himself by saying he doesn't know?????

The journalist ask stupid questions...what were they wearing???...like what..just killed loads of kids..how is that even relevant???

Asked if the childrens bodies have been returned to the parents etc..he says again he doesn't know?...these are not normal responses...he is in charge of a department here...he would be fully briefed and had all the info..he has just completed all the autopsies...and he doesn't know???...come on!!

No one asks what type of wechiles they use either...whats that got to do with it?..His reply is interesting 14.25...vans to fool you guys!!!!...what?????

The he goes on to spell out his name and talk about his father and grandfather???.........lol....lol....give mme a break...No way would a senior consultant do or speak in this manner...they know their subject matter inside out and give medical detail...this man knows none!!!

Also his face and neck change throughout the video...lost count how many time..11.22-11.24 was bad...11,59 and 12.24...but its thoughout the clip.

And like someone else says..the police offices in the background are laughing and looking away at certain points.

Talks of the tent as being a magnificent thing???..what???...lol...he is a consultant!!!...lol...lol....what the hell!!!..lol


Its terrible...and if I was in charge of him....there was no way he would represent my hospital infront of the media again....this is the worst acting I have ever seen...or he is the worst consultant I have ever seen too...I wouldn't want him any where near me dead or alive!!!

Seriously this video is wrong on so many levels!!!
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Old 19-12-2012, 03:57 PM   #56
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He's that bad, only the most incompetent schemer would hope to try and slip him past an ever-more observant public, which makes me believe he just has to be a genuine crank who got thrust into the media spotlight. Which in itself raises questions. If he IS a real ME, somebody must have wanted to discredit him to have given him that job of dealing with the press.

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Old 19-12-2012, 04:08 PM   #57
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I have just sat and watched the whole of that video bit by bit and something is not right with it at all...my step father does his job and there is no way..he would speak or act like that.

He gave no medical detail. He didn't know the ages of the children..or gender ratio of the children....yet he had just finished the report on them all by one thirty???


He talks of taking photos and control...well relatives are only given that if the body has decayed or serious facial injuries...otherwise any relative can an should see the deceased if they want to...thats odd!!

Then when asked if the gunman killed himself...He says No..then No I don't know yet..I don't think so????..well is it no..or i don't have that information at hand?...who did examine the gunman because it clearly wasn't him!!

He turns numerous times to the officer on left of the film for reassurance and nods.
He was asked was everyone it more than once?
He said everyone was hit more than once..well if it was a nutty bloke it would be more random..some shot serveral times some once and some with injuries...he confirms some things then contradicts himself by saying he doesn't know?????

The journalist ask stupid questions...what were they wearing???...like what..just killed loads of kids..how is that even relevant???

Asked if the childrens bodies have been returned to the parents etc..he says again he doesn't know?...these are not normal responses...he is in charge of a department here...he would be fully briefed and had all the info..he has just completed all the autopsies...and he doesn't know???...come on!!

No one asks what type of wechiles they use either...whats that got to do with it?..His reply is interesting 14.25...vans to fool you guys!!!!...what?????

The he goes on to spell out his name and talk about his father and grandfather???.........lol....lol....give mme a break...No way would a senior consultant do or speak in this manner...they know their subject matter inside out and give medical detail...this man knows none!!!

Also his face and neck change throughout the video...lost count how many time..11.22-11.24 was bad...11,59 and 12.24...but its thoughout the clip.

And like someone else says..the police offices in the background are laughing and looking away at certain points.

Talks of the tent as being a magnificent thing???..what???...lol...he is a consultant!!!...lol...lol....what the hell!!!..lol


Its terrible...and if I was in charge of him....there was no way he would represent my hospital infront of the media again....this is the worst acting I have ever seen...or he is the worst consultant I have ever seen too...I wouldn't want him any where near me dead or alive!!!

Seriously this video is wrong on so many levels!!!

Good post. I too picked up on many of those things
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Old 19-12-2012, 04:20 PM   #58
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Mormons are just very happy people.

Give me a break. Whatever other conclusions you might want to draw from Sandy Hook - and I ain't sayin' nothing yet - the guy in the video is acting.
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Old 19-12-2012, 04:23 PM   #59
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Thank you bless!

Its not just that video though its all of them put together...

The father laughing video
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the comparison of the grieving father of the teacher on 2 video clips on the other thread that don't make sense at all!!!

But if thats their top consultant ...it is God help America...there is no way no way..he is a consultant....I hang round with them all the time..they are so intellectual and focused on their specialist field none of them would conduct themselves like this none of them.

My step father..when he is on radio etc...researches the topic for weeks before hand to make sure he is up to date...and if he was presenting it that...it would have been full of medical fact.

He would know how many victims..he would know how many girls and boys..he would know ehere the injuries were...he would never said he didn;t know!!...He would say thats not my field of expertise to make comment on and he would have stood their with all the facts and his inital findings in front of him incase he needed to refer to them.

So something is weird with it all....who is examining the gunmans body??...He hadn't aclue where it had gone???..lol...what???..lol...even id bodies are transferred to other locations...you know where they have gone!!..and no consultant would ever ever say anything..in terms of the vechiles they use???..and say to fool you guys!!!...lol..lol....

The more and more I look at it the more I laugh!!!....its so bad!!!!...lol

What I think happened is.....that incident did occur and the top people came in...and took all the bodies and evidence away...and he is the local muppet...who clearly knows nothing...but they have had to include him because it goes against each area/hospitals own policy so because he covers that are..they would tell him...don't worry all the reports were done and completed by 1.30 pm....and thats the only bit of truth in all he says!!!

I do not believe for one minute he was involved with those bodies his langueage ..etc just is so so wrong!!!! lol

Sorry I can't stop laughing at it...I might send it my step father later so he can have a laugh too!! lol x
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If it is so easy to spot fakes, why do they do it then?
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