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Old 06-02-2019, 03:53 AM   #41
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RELATED AGENDA

http://www.iwf.org/blog/2799131/Albe...%22-in-Schools



BULLSHIT that is the purpose

the purpose it to remove the words mother and father from the language of parenting all together

the purpose is to so confuse children with regard to who their parents really are that eventually they drop the use of mother and father all together and then what ?

who is the mother and father then ? mom and dad ? no

nobody will have one will they

you had better wake the hell up to what is being done in our societies and from WHERE it originates
Put that together with the SNP named person scheme and....... Bang. Ejaculating Socialists everywhere.
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Old 06-02-2019, 08:08 AM   #42
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We are operating at very different levels of understanding.
You're absolutely right there! It seems you are purposefully misinterpreting plain English in the quotes you provide and finding sinister hidden intent. And as such there is little point continuing the conversation.

Like I said, I wish there had been a SOGI group in my C of E secondary school in the 1970s. It might have prevented a lad's suicide...

Have a nice day.

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Old 06-02-2019, 08:20 AM   #43
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You're absolutely right there! It seems you are purposefully misinterpreting plain English in the quotes you provide and finding sinister hidden intent. And as such there is little point continuing the conversation.

Like I said, I wish there had been a SOGI group in my C of E secondary school in the 1970s. It might have prevented a lad's suicide...

Have a nice day.

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Would that not work the other way aswell?

I personally fail to see how the majority and excuse me, natural thinking people, should be pandering to a minority view. If strightness was shoved down anyones throat then there is a valid reason for that. Reproduction. I see no reason why anyone should be given any other advice, nevermind told it's ok.

Can you enlighten me? Bear in mind, I do not call for the silencing of anyone. Nor do I wish to impose MY belief on anyone.
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:37 AM   #44
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Did you know that the agreed upon Aboriginal term for 'toilet' in mainstream Australian society is 'Jillawee'?

I do, because I work in an office where we now have cutout stickers on every toilet door underneath the Man or Woman symbol, so that the one person in a building of 100 people can locate the place to take a piss without feeling offended.
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Old 06-02-2019, 01:41 PM   #45
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Many people find social change uncomfortable, even threatening. It isn't helped when those who advocate this change - for the best of intentions - are unable or unwilling to take this into account.

Sometimes their well-meaning but clumsily worded or over-reaching strategies simply play into the hands of the detractors, who deliberately cherry-pick phrases they perceive as contentious and take them out of context to make their point.

We've seen it over and over in recent decades, but overall - at least in Western society - we are in a better place than we were 50 or 100 years ago.

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Old 06-02-2019, 01:56 PM   #46
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the state or by-proxy the state (funding a group and allowing access to that group to members of a state insitution) cannot ignore its own legal framework, age of consent.

any sexual act (emotional, social, spiritual feelings, behaviours) entered into the discourse of an institution of state responsible for persons under the age of consent is an illegal act

unless the social change is one of attending to the age of consent, LGBT with the Government better reconsider their policy.
the quite disgraceful Sexual Offences Act 2003 can only have emerged from Harmann, Hewitt, Dromney camp

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Old 06-02-2019, 01:59 PM   #47
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the state or by-proxy the state (funding a group and allowing access to that group to members of a state insitution) cannot ignore its own legal framework, age of consent.

any sexual act (emotional, social, spiritual feelings, behaviours) entered into the discourse of an institution of state responsible for persons under the age of consent is an illegal act

unless the social change is one of attending to the age of consent, LGBT with the Government better reconsider their policy
No one is suggesting a change in the age of consent here. As far as I'm concerned (and everyone I know who has expressed an opinion) it's fine where it is.
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:26 PM   #48
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You're absolutely right there! It seems you are purposefully misinterpreting plain English in the quotes you provide and finding sinister hidden intent. And as such there is little point continuing the conversation.

Like I said, I wish there had been a SOGI group in my C of E secondary school in the 1970s. It might have prevented a lad's suicide...

Have a nice day.

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So after providing some pretty clear cut info that this SOGI agenda had been undrt handedly pushed into schools without parental.consultation and that ordinary teachers have been threatened with loosing thier job if they dont conform AND providing evidence which shows there is a concerted attempt to remove mothers snd fathers from the language of parenting you decide the conversation is over.

Awesome.

How surprising.
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:29 PM   #49
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No one is suggesting a change in the age of consent here. As far as I'm concerned (and everyone I know who has expressed an opinion) it's fine where it is.
No they are just.completely ignoring it snd introducing themes of a sexual nature.to under 10s and also.encouraging parents to be " curious " with their children about sexual.preferences.

I dare you to deny that.
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:31 PM   #50
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So after providing some pretty clear cut info that this SOGI agenda had been undrt handedly pushed into schools without parental.consultation and that ordinary teachers have been threatened with loosing thier job if they dont conform AND providing evidence which shows there is a concerted attempt to remove mothers snd fathers from the language of parenting you decide the conversation is over.

Awesome.

How surprising.
You're so kind.

I refer you to my post #45.
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:31 PM   #51
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Did you know that the agreed upon Aboriginal term for 'toilet' in mainstream Australian society is 'Jillawee'?

I do, because I work in an office where we now have cutout stickers on every toilet door underneath the Man or Woman symbol, so that the one person in a building of 100 people can locate the place to take a piss without feeling offended.
If they couldnt find it before where were they pissing ?
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:34 PM   #52
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You're so kind.

I refer you to my post #45.
Non answer.

Retreating to a bunker.position from a previous statement shows your un willingness to inform yourself.

You dont know it all do you.

Also David Icke has done numerous talka about this very subject.

But k guess because.you are gay only you know best right.

Exactly the issue at hand.
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Old 06-02-2019, 03:01 PM   #53
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Non answer.

Retreating to a bunker.position from a previous statement shows your un willingness to inform yourself.

You dont know it all do you.

Also David Icke has done numerous talka about this very subject.

But k guess because.you are gay only you know best right.

Exactly the issue at hand.
For gay folks yes, at least from my experience - which is more than you are bringing to this. Tell us all what you know about growing up gay, in an at best dismissive and at worst hostile and violent environment? Not trying to play the victim card here, it's just a statement of fact.

I see nothing wrong in nudging society to be accepting different kinds of people - I don't like the word "tolerated". No one has to like me, but I WON'T simply be "tolerated". People accept me for me or they can f*** off.

We're not going to agree due to our completely different life experiences. We're wasting time discussing it, though nice while it lasted.

Perhaps some of us get wrapped up in the influence we think our expressed opinions have on the DIF. There are subjects and forum members who who are inspiring, informed and articulate. But onlookers can come to their own conclusions about this one...
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Old 06-02-2019, 03:11 PM   #54
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Ive brought more than just a personal experience to the discussion all ready.

School is not about uplifting homosexuals because they.still cant find the acceptance they desire in adult life.

In fact the more i think about it the more disgusting it is that you.and others are happy to seek validation from children who are so easily influenced due to the fact as an adult you dont get that acceptance in larger society.

I have also begun the process in this thread of explaining what is known as intersectionality and the REAL purpose of that ideological framework.

You have not managed to refute a.single point i have made nor have you.privided any evidence whatsoever yo back up your own opinion.

I provided evidence and and you provided opinion.

And dont start with the whole " some posters are magnificent sentient beings who radiate light " crap

Once again shows you are debating in bad faith and un willing to learn what is really going on.

David Icke has presented similar if not identical.information regarding this.

Are you also saying the quality of davids.work needa addressing so he becomes.able to see the.benefits of pushing a gay agenda on children ?

I started off fair but now i will ask what the hell is wrong with you ?!!
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. Tell us all what you know about growing up gay, in an at best dismissive and at worst hostile and violent environment? Not trying to play the victim card here, it's just a statement of fact.

I see nothing wrong in nudging society to be accepting different kinds of people - I don't like the word "tolerated". No one has to like me, but I WON'T simply be "tolerated". People accept me for me or they can f*** off.

We're not going to agree due to our completely different life experiences. We're wasting time discussing it, though nice while it lasted.

...
Actually I will turn that right back around on you and ask you what is your experience in raising children and being a father ?

Because the topic is gay people wanting access to children to introduce them to homosexuality and not adults wanting to go into gay clubs to talk about being straight.

VERY different.

The more i think about it the more disgusting it is that because some of you lack the social acceptance from adults you desire you think you should go into schools and get that acceptance and validation there, with a highly.suggestible and easily.influenced group of developing.minds.

Its gross and furthermore there has been no parental.consultation on the matter.

Which makes it even worse IMO.
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For gay folks yes, at least from my experience - which is more than you are bringing to this. Tell us all what you know about growing up gay, in an at best dismissive and at worst hostile and violent environment? Not trying to play the victim card here, it's just a statement of fact..
i think the straight guys in school were involved in more fist fights than the gay guys

gay guys were probably safer from violence. They certainly weren't competing for the attentions of girls or for any sort of respect from their peers

so prove to me that gay guys experienced more violence from straight guys than straight guys did...

what you'll probably find is that a lot of the violence against gay people is actually done by other gay people. Go on...have a think about gay guys you know who have experienced violence and i bet you can think of examples of violence done by other gay guys. I know at least one gay guy who was beaten up by his gay partner

what are you going to do to stop gay on gay violence?
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I am firmly of the belief that children should not be bombarded with sexual nor religious preaching during their early years. However it would appear from some of the comments on this thread that state intervention is indeed necessary, if only on health, welfare and cleanliness grounds alone.
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MrA. Please have the last word. I've made my point as politely as I can. No one gives a flying fuck what either of us think.

But you will always see sinister gays scheming behind every tree and lamp post. Like I said, there's no point in further discussion. Interpret that as you will...

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MrA. Please have the last word. I've made my point as politely as I can. No one gives a flying fuck what either of us think.

But you will always see sinister gays scheming behind every tree and lamp post. Like I said, there's no point in further discussion. Interpret that as you will...

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is it about 'schemeing gays' or is it about the cabal finding any ways they can of undermining the core of society?

you can see them for example behind both the extreme left and the extreme right of the political spectrum as they play both ends against the middle

the marxists identified the nuclear family as the building block of capitalist society so they are waging war on that in order to undermine the 'patriarchy'

Collectivists also want the state to replace parents so that children can be indoctrinated to the values of the state rather than the values of families

The whole concept of the technocracy is for the cabal to have TOTAL control and that means having control over your childrens minds and also over reproduction

Reproduction has traditionally revolved around heterosexual pairings of mating pairs

The cabal who are also pushing an agenda of population reduction want to sabotage that traditional process of 'heternormativity'

By doing so they hope to take the power of reproduction out of the hands of citizens and into the hands of the technocracy along with the power over the raising of young

By elevating anything that is not 'heteronormative' whilst simultaneously bashing heteornormativity they are able to accomplish these various objectives

I don't really see it being about gay rights at all. I just see it as people trying to socially engineer us into a more restrictive and controlled society

Of course those people won't want people like me saying this so they will try and claim that it is about gay rights and they'll call me a 'homophobe' to try and shut me up. But i don't think it is about gay rights. personally i have no problems with people being gay if they want
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:22 PM   #60
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Would that not work the other way aswell?

I personally fail to see how the majority and excuse me, natural thinking people, should be pandering to a minority view. If strightness was shoved down anyones throat then there is a valid reason for that. Reproduction. I see no reason why anyone should be given any other advice, nevermind told it's ok.

Can you enlighten me? Bear in mind, I do not call for the silencing of anyone. Nor do I wish to impose MY belief on anyone.
Quasi-religious bullshit.
Truth does not need to be validated by ignorance.
Imagined self-righteousness is about as natural as a turd in a bowl of a soup.

Reproduction does not define sexual and physiological needs of either sex, and never has.

What exactly are you claiming is not OK?

Since this is a government initiative, exactly what "minority view" are you claiming?

And what is a " natural thinking people? while you are at it.

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