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Old 24-09-2017, 10:43 PM   #21
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I would think thats not true. If they are drinking, plus at school, its likely they will be joyful with drinking.

Plus i doubt misery likes company is true. Most people whom are miserable, are not panting for company, like extroverts, and happy people. Happy people, will always want company more then miserable people.

So for me, i doubt that saying has any real basis in reality.
The saying is applicable to drinkers pressurising non drinkers.

People pressure me to drink when they have ailments that are contributed to drinking that they constantly moan about.

To me a drinkers life looks pretty miserable and they are always complaining about what a drunk did to them or what they did the night before or they can't remember and are asking people to remind them how bad they were. Or how sick they were or how bad a head they have.

I just came back from a night out with drinkers and it's like an alzeimers party (except that party would be better as they remember stuff in better detail even if its from the wrong era)
I have conversations with them they can't remember three minutes later.
They dance on tables and fall off and push people around, spill drinks and
shout and fall over, people vomiting in the toilets
and then they ask you for a lift and offer you to give others a lift too...
(cue I hastily exited while they had still forgotten that conversation ever happened)

Even at a young age when they talk about drinking they are complaining about how some girl this boy wanted to date has got drunk and got off with her mates boyfriend and she denied it ever happened so all the girls don't want to talk to her anymore and she hates them back meanwhile the video of her snogging her friends boyfriend is going viral round the school and she finds out that she is the slag she denied being and now the boy doesn't want to date her.
Meanwhile the boys photo of his balls has also gone viral round the school and is being used as a group chat image...

Sorry but to me that doesn't look like fun...looks like misery wants company.....so they can laugh at you instead of them.

I danced, I had fun and I'll remember tomorrow what happened and that I didn't offend or upset anyone...
my friend who'd been out drinking the night before sat in a corner and moaned.

Happy people aren't drinkers I can assure you - they wake up and smile.
I never once woke up and smiled as a drinker.

If you are socially awkward drinking may make you think you are a happier person as it numbs your true feelings about life and what's happening around you.

How can you be awake while you are numbing your senses and clouding and damaging your brain and organs on purpose?

How can you love yourself and poison yourself?

You are selling a happiness poison?

I've never known anyone in the history of alcohol that became a happier person because they drank.
Never.
I've known plenty of people who destroyed their own lives and the lives of those around them from drinking though.

You are advocating a poison to a youngster - it has already had an adverse effect on you if you think it makes you happy .... that is sad and delusional.
Misery wants company.
Misery lies.
So do alcoholics.

Change the phrase to
alcoholics are miserable people that want company to make themselves feel better about how miserable they feel by watching someone else be more miserable than them
that fits too
but it's too long

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Old 25-09-2017, 01:34 AM   #22
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^ This is the reason I don't go out drinking anymore. It's all very sad affair.
So why are you still hanging around with these people Daisy?

You'd be better off with line dancing or Salsa class or Salsa night where people come to enjoy dancing rather than to drink.
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Old 25-09-2017, 12:10 PM   #23
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I wouldn't word it how you worded it, but one must be vigilant of a change of any nature, as it can invite dangerous circumstances if treated with complacency. I wouldn't go as far as to say I am afraid of change, but I'm skeptical of a sudden shift towards this behavior and indeed alcohol isn't just "booze". Its genuinely mind altering harmful stuff when misused.

More lives have been fucked by alcohol than "crazy LSD".

Anyhow, thanks for the attempt to belittle my concerns as if they're insignificant.
That's it see it negatively. Just trying to help you. You seem timid to me. You need to get out more. I've had great times on booze. Most people will not react badly to it. Your fears are an illusion. If we were talking about crystal meth it would different.
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Old 25-09-2017, 02:43 PM   #24
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^ This is the reason I don't go out drinking anymore. It's all very sad affair.
So why are you still hanging around with these people Daisy?

You'd be better off with line dancing or Salsa class or Salsa night where people come to enjoy dancing rather than to drink.
I've done that. The instructor asked me for a date so I didn't go back lol.

I prefer to socialise in the daytime to be honest - loads more things you can do to have fun -I only go out with them in the evenings if my friends nag me enough- probably twice a year now.
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Old 25-09-2017, 03:04 PM   #25
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Drunk people (when you are not) are boring as hell.

Looks like OP more than able to stand alone, well done, don't be swayed.
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Old 25-09-2017, 03:06 PM   #26
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I read as far as "moral issue" in the OP

To be honest, I dont think you need to worry too much about what your current circle of friends are up to - They will probably cut you loose sooner rather than later.

Whilst too much alcohol is never a good thing in the long term, as a teenager it is one of the rites of passage things that you just do.....Unless of course you deliberately set out to be a wilful oddball - They are the ones without any friends later in life.
Has being a raging conformist turned out well for you?
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Old 26-09-2017, 12:08 AM   #27
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"Many alcoholics believe that once they are sober for a few months they are cured. Nothing could be further from the truth. An alcoholic is not cured just because they stopped drinking. Remember, "the drinking" for the alcoholic is only a symptom of an underlying problem within him or her." - ANGIE LEWIS, The Alcoholism Trap

“I felt empty and sad for years, and for a long, long time, alcohol worked. I’d drink, and all the sadness would go away. Not only did the sadness go away, but I was fantastic. I was beautiful, funny, I had a great figure, and I could do math. But at some point, the booze stopped working. That’s when drinking started sucking. Every time I drank, I could feel pieces of me leaving. I continued to drink until there was nothing left. Just emptiness.” - Dina Kucera, Everything I Never Wanted to Be
“When he was a kid, it used to feel like his parents disappeared when the got drunk. As the levels of their glasses went down, he could sense them pulling away from him, as if they were together on the same boat, slowly pulling away from the shore where Oliver was left stranded, still himself, still boring, sensible Oliver, and he'd think, Please don't go, stay here with me, because his real mother was funny and his real father was smart, but they always went. First his dad got stupid and his mum got giggly, and then his mum got nasty and his dad got angry, and so it went until there was no point staying and Oliver went to watch movies in his bedroom. He'd had his own VCR in his bedroom. He'd had a privileged upbringing, had never wanted for anything.” - Liane Moriarty



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Old 27-09-2017, 02:05 PM   #28
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Drinking and smoking are thee two most antisolocial things that anyone can do. I often chuckle when I hear people say things like, "I only drink and/or smoke socially". I usually just think to myself, yeah and I only shit on the dinner table when I have guests around
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