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Old 24-06-2012, 05:56 AM   #21
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Well thats good to hear. (Sounds like it thankfully isnt as bad as it could be)

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Old 25-06-2012, 06:27 PM   #22
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So a bunch of people with a pre-existing prejudice on vaccines get polled on vaccines and the results of the poll support said prejudice?

Take THAT, science!
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:37 AM   #23
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So a bunch of people with a pre-existing prejudice on vaccines get polled on vaccines and the results of the poll support said prejudice?

Take THAT, science!
Yeh that's right, there is no conspiracy..... the results are all fraudulent, and everything you have been taught in your medical profession is correct....

There...feel better now ?

Now move along !

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Old 26-06-2012, 12:24 PM   #24
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by all means challenge the convention - it's the only way science grows. However, if you are going to, you need to actually do it with something that'll stand up to scrutiny.
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Old 26-06-2012, 09:13 PM   #25
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by all means challenge the convention - it's the only way science grows. However, if you are going to, you need to actually do it with something that'll stand up to scrutiny.

Scrutiny by who ?

The same pharmwhores who insist 'ad nausium' that vaccines are the best things since sliced bread ?



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Old 26-06-2012, 09:33 PM   #26
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Scrutiny by who ?

The same pharmwhores who insist 'ad nausium' that vaccines are the best things since sliced bread ?



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As soon as there's a replacement for the tetanus shot, tell me.
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Old 27-06-2012, 04:24 AM   #27
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I suppose. I haven't been sick in years. But i also take plenty of vaccines. Not the yearly flu shot much, but an every ten years tetanus shot and everything i received in my infancy.
Wow. Bad decisions. Vaccines are at best completely worthless. At worst they can kill you.
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Old 27-06-2012, 04:27 AM   #28
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So a bunch of people with a pre-existing prejudice on vaccines get polled on vaccines and the results of the poll support said prejudice?

Take THAT, science!
The words "science" and "vaccines" do not belong in the same sentence together. Vaccines are the modern equivalent of witch doctors' potions with the exception that some witch doctor potions actually work.
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Old 27-06-2012, 04:32 AM   #29
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Wow. Bad decisions. Vaccines are at best completely worthless. At worst they can kill you.
Or save me, at best
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Old 27-06-2012, 11:51 AM   #30
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Scrutiny by who ?

The same pharmwhores who insist 'ad nausium' that vaccines are the best things since sliced bread ?



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Scrutiny by anyone who can do science. That is, anyone who understands the scientific method and a bit around the subject matter.

This "paper" doesn't demonstrate either of these, and you do yourself a disservice by aligning behind such crappy work.
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Old 28-06-2012, 10:30 AM   #31
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you do yourself a disservice by aligning behind such crappy work.
....says the most indoctrinated shill on the block....

couldn't make it up if you tried...
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Old 17-07-2012, 12:14 AM   #32
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The "study/paper/whatever" was not a real study...it was a poll.
The voluntary poll asked regular unscientific people (on one website) who already believed that vaccines were harmful....asking these unscientific people to rate their opinions of vaccines and their harms. The results were compared to a scientific nation-wide survey (Germany).
Hmmmmm.... turns out when they compared the two, results were vastly different.
500% different.

See the problem here ?

One side was small, already biased, and unscientific......The other was large, controlled, and scientific.
Of course there was a difference......a difference that should not have been compared with each other in the first place.
It was an opinion poll vs. a scientific study.

Biased journalism at it's best example.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036220_va...allergies.html

see here...
http://metabunk.org/threads/618-Vacc...light=vaccines

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Old 17-07-2012, 01:00 AM   #33
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As soon as there's a replacement for the tetanus shot, tell me.
Tetanus is caused by bacteria and not a virus meaning a vaccination is pointless.
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:12 AM   #34
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Tetanus is caused by bacteria and not a virus meaning a vaccination is pointless.
"The tetanus vaccine is a toxoid, meaning that it protects against the toxin produced by the bacteria. Developed in the 1920s, tetanus vaccination became routinely used as a part of childhood immunizations in the U.S. after World War II, and it is considered to be essentially 100% effective in preventing tetanus. Tetanus immunization is almost always administered to children in the form of the DTaP vaccine, which also protects against diphtheria and pertussis. Tetanus toxoid can also be given in combination with diphtheria vaccine alone in both adult (Td) and pediatric (DT) formulations."
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Old 17-07-2012, 01:25 AM   #35
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Tetanus is caused by bacteria and not a virus meaning a vaccination is pointless.
All vaccines are pointless and i recommend nobody to allow their children to receive any of this poison.
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Old 17-07-2012, 12:15 PM   #36
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All vaccines are pointless and i recommend nobody to allow their children to receive any of this poison.
Or their pets !
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ed-autism.aspx

Italian Court Reignites MMR Vaccine Debate After Award Over Child with Autism


anyone defending vaccines on this forum like they fucking actually work should be labeled as fucking quack!
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Old 17-07-2012, 09:48 PM   #38
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Or their pets !
Really ?
The rabies vaccine is the prime reason that Rabies is not running rapid.

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http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/index.html

The more people that don't vaccinate their pets for Rabies....the higher the probability your pet can get infected, or you.

Do you know the treatment for a pet that contracts Rabies ?
Either they are given a Rabies booster and quarantined for 45 days (alone in a cage) for observation, or they are put to sleep (killed).
Is that how you want your pet treated ?

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There is no treatment or cure for rabies once symptoms appear. Since rabies presents a serious public health threat, dogs who are suspected of having the virus are most often euthanized.
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I was just bitten by my own dog (breaking up a fight). She snapped at anything within reach during the fight. My arm was an easy target. Earlier in the week, my dog killed two wild animals. Now, protecting the life of your pet from Rabies is sane and compassionate....NOT protecting them is INSANE....especially if the virus can be spread to you.

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Old 17-07-2012, 10:13 PM   #39
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Really ?
The rabies vaccine is the prime reason that Rabies is not running rapid.


http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/index.html

The more people that don't vaccinate their pets for Rabies....the higher the probability your pet can get infected, or you.

Do you know the treatment for a pet that contracts Rabies ?
Either they are given a Rabies booster and quarantined for 45 days (alone in a cage) for observation, or they are put to sleep (killed).
Is that how you want your pet treated ?

From the ASPCA:
I can see how people might be discouraged from vaccines... They hurt, they have side-effects, they can kill you. A girl was paralyzed after getting the swine flu shot.
But at the same time vaccines are the reason we no longer have to worry about smallpox, polio, tuberculosis. If there was a vaccine for cancer nearly everyone would jump on that!
A lot of people will say 'just clean the cut' if you step on a nail...but suppose you are nowhere near hydrogen peroxide or anything similar? I would rather take the tetanus vaccine (which gave me a godawful fever!!) than die of lockjaw.
Btw... If vaccines DID cause autism, why is that such a bad thing? Suppose for an instant that we never had Albert Einstein or Bill Gates. Yeah.
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The fear of vaccines and possible side-effects is truly disproportional to the alternative of no vaccines at all.
Sure, there are cases of bad reactions....as with any foreign introduced substance injected into the body.

But the amount of lives saved and disease averted by vaccines, greatly outnumbers those few "bad reactions".
I don't see the reason for such a panic among some people about the idea of vaccines.
Perhaps there is complacency that such diseases are now nearly eliminated from the population....that a vaccine is not necessary. But the vaccines are the reason they're nearly eliminated.

For travelers to remote regions of the globe, Yellow Fever, Measles, Influenza, and Malaria should be of concern.
While there is no current Malaria vaccine, if there were....here's the amount of lives possibly saved....
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Malaria is one of the most severe public health problems worldwide. It is a leading cause of death and disease in many developing countries, where young children and pregnant women are the groups most affected. According to the World Health Organization’s World Malaria Report 2009External Web Site Icon and the Global Malaria Action PlanExternal Web Site Icon

3.3 billion people (half the world’s population) live in areas at risk of malaria transmission in 109 countries and territories
35 countries (30 in sub-Saharan Africa and 5 in Asia) account for 98% of global malaria deaths.
In 2008, malaria caused an estimated 190 - 311 million clinical episodes, and 708,000 - 1,003,000 deaths.
89% of the malaria deaths worldwide occur in Africa.
Malaria is the 5th cause of death from infectious diseases worldwide (after respiratory infections, HIV/AIDS, diarrheal diseases, and tuberculosis) in low-income countries.
Malaria is the 2nd leading cause of death from infectious diseases in Africa, after HIV/AIDS.
source: http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/malaria_w...de/impact.html
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