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Old 15-06-2007, 11:03 AM   #1
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A 24 minute made for TV cartoon based around the song (IMDB link). It features lots of satanic hand signals as well as some other dodgy subliminals. Very blatant one this.

The storyline features a little boy named Jackie Draper who is scared of everything and no longer speaks. One day he gets the visit from our reptillian friend Puff who 'borrows' Jackie's 'living thing' (his soul) and puts it into a piece of paper whereby Jackie Draper becomes Jackie Paper. He then takes Jackie on a journey that Jackie cannot return from until he completes it. Of course the general storyline is positive with overcoming his fears with the help of Puff. The undertones however...

Puff putting Jackie's soul into a piece of paper



Hand signals





Singing a song



The buttons and collars on Puff's 'shirt' sometimes turn into a face



Very suspect positioning of Jackie. Puff's finger has changed to a more human flesh colour for no apparent reason and his chest face is back.



More hand signals



You can watch the whole thing on Google Video

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...01002597020377
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Old 15-06-2007, 11:07 AM   #2
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i remember this from when i was young...
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Old 15-06-2007, 11:26 AM   #3
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That's taking the whip, it really is
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Old 15-06-2007, 10:46 PM   #4
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i remember this from when i was young...
lol dont we all,

you know what I mean lol, I just had to go and click the link didnt I!

I remember the series in the uk, with the guy who played the artful dodger I think, it was a good memory. Never seen the cartoon until now though.
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Old 15-06-2007, 11:14 PM   #5
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1 2 free, I saw many more subliminals than that, everything mentioned and shown, is.

we can learn, a lot.

JW I used to see a man screaming on your avatar, now he is laughing do you change it, or am I looking at it form a different angle.
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Old 15-06-2007, 11:43 PM   #6
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Hello Festival Spirit'
Don,t sue me ,
I,ll just pick you up on a few points.

H.R.Puffinstuff
Kids programme from the 70's
Jimmy(Jack Wilde, artful dodger) and his magic flute Freddy got lured to Living Island

This was a drug metaphore for kids
Puffinstuff- marijuanna
HR-hand rolled
Magic flute-joint

Just like all kids programmes from this psychedelic era

Including
The Magic Roundabout with Brian(Bob Dylan)
The stoned caterpillar

And the sexually explicit
Captain Pugwash

With such delightful charictors'
Seamen Stains'
Roger the cabin boy,
And Master Bates.

Puff ,The Magic Dragon ,was a song about the loss of innocence,(childhood)

Pttp

POE
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Old 16-06-2007, 12:25 AM   #7
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http://evilpufftehdragon.ytmnd.com/



It's amazing the kind of things you find in children's programming.
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Old 16-06-2007, 01:45 AM   #8
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hey cheeb,

dont worry I won't sue you unless ....... nah only kidding, have you only just read that?

Thanks for the trip down memory lane there, I was aware of all those things and yep I got puff n pufnstuf mixed up but we got there in the end, nice one cheeb.
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Creepy!
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Old 16-06-2007, 04:12 AM   #10
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Yeah, this is totally uncool. I tried to dig up some info on the writers and producers, but didn't find anything too interesting, not anything other than Peter Yarrow being a little weird and that he tried to get it on with a 14 year old in '70.

But a 14 year old girl is hardly a little boy, and Yarrow is only responsible for half of the song, not the visuals.

There is more to this. The artists....something...
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Here's the poop on Puff:
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Old 16-06-2007, 09:10 AM   #12
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I just noticed the inverted pentagrams on Puff's bag.

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Very suspect positioning of Jackie. Puff's finger has changed to a more human flesh colour for no apparent reason and his chest face is back.

I didn't mention that his finger is actually longer than normal too.
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Old 16-06-2007, 12:23 PM   #13
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So, I'm looking at this picture to see if there's anything else symbolic, and I noticed three ducks. Immediately, I think duck rhymes with fuck, but ... nah that's a bit of a stretch so never mind....

The animator was Charles Swenson (according to the credits) and although there's not much information about him out there, I found this interesting tidbit...also by Charles Swenson:


"Wouldn't YOU Like a Good Duck tonight?"

Clearly a play on words.

"...an adult oriented oriented animated film directed by Charles Swenson..." -
"...When Willard discovers that the duck is female, he has sex with her and quits his job the following morning...", "The film features a number of in-jokes." - Link

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In-Joke:
An in-joke or inside joke is a joke whose humor is clear only to those people who are "inside" a group that would allow them to have some prior knowledge (not known by the whole population) that makes the joke humorous. - Link
The Dirty Duck was released prior to Puff, and so I believe that adding the ducks to Jackie's bedroom was Swenson's little in-joke

Had it not been specifically for this image...



...I'd say the duck connection is a major stretch, but I think the pedophilia connotations are obvious.






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Are those clouds or UFOs?




Star and crescent symbol.



Butterfly.




Demons/horned reptiles.


The premise: a reptilian creature visits a young boy in his bedroom, removes
his soul and puts it into a container. Then the boy's bed becomes a craft
that sails and flies (via butterfly wings) to a faraway, strange place full of
small diseased demons that have turned the place into a hellish landscape.

I find it interesting that this was released in 1978 because it was in the 80's
that the alien abduction phenomenon began to emerge.
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Old 16-06-2007, 08:13 PM   #15
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JW I used to see a man screaming on your avatar, now he is laughing do you change it, or am I looking at it form a different angle.
No changes here: eye of the beholder mate

I do love Alex Grey's work though, go check it out!

http://www.alexgrey.com/
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Old 18-06-2007, 07:00 AM   #16
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Well the kids cartoons have probably some of the worst images in them to get these guys in make them okay. Start them young right? Make them a cartoon with a silly smile on their face and you are in. But, have you noticed that most cartoons have little kid characters in some other world where they are being controlled and led around by weird beings?
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No changes here: eye of the beholder mate

I do love Alex Grey's work though, go check it out!

http://www.alexgrey.com/

Nice one john, I find a bit of his stuff a bit scary ........ at first.

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Well the kids cartoons have probably some of the worst images in them to get these guys in make them okay. Start them young right? Make them a cartoon with a silly smile on their face and you are in. But, have you noticed that most cartoons have little kid characters in some other world where they are being controlled and led around by weird beings?
Good point here, I was recently visiting my daughter in hospital, I took a break and went for a coffee, I am deaf and could not hear the tv that was on about 15 meteres away but could see it, it was blue peter, the theme was global warming, and the characters included horned beasts, one eyed monsters, a couple of 'earth' children, that were being guided around the galaxy in a galleon type 'space' ship, in between the cartoon clips, they showed 'real' pics of london, being flooded, amongst other catastrophic earth crisis.

WTF?
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