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Old 03-08-2008, 08:39 PM   #1
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Default Black Mold...I may have to quit my job.

I work at 2 different vet clinics. I'll work one week at one, then a week at the other. One is very small and has black mold in the walls and in one of the cupboards in an exam room.

My boss, the vet hasn't done anything about it, doesn't seem to care. There is also no hot water at the clinic which makes it hard to clean anything.

When I get home my scrubs and my hair reek with the smell of mold. Does that mean it's staying in my lungs too?

I think this week I'll have to tell him, get rid of the mold or I've gotta go
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:37 AM   #2
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it can be very dangerous for some people and is in general very unhealthy. I have known someone to have horrible endless sneezes from it...
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:22 AM   #3
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tell him you will report it too the environmental health dept-not sure if u have one in usa....but here in england this is what you do................

it is very bad for your health.........
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:35 AM   #4
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molds (sometimes referred to as black molds, even though mold can come in a variety of colors) can cause a wide array of adverse responses in humans depending on the type and quantity that is present. However, these are not the lone factors when considering the health affects to mold exposure. Since dose and human response can be highly individualistic, the sensitivity of the person exposed is also an important consideration. For example, infants and young children, the immune-compromised, and the elderly are at an increased risk of experiencing adverse health effects related to mold exposure.

There are many routes of exposure to molds including dermal contact, ingestion, and inhalation. The health risks associated with mold exposure include, but are not limited to: allergic reactions, irritation associated with volatile organic compounds (VOCs), invasive disease, mycotoxicosis.

Allergy

Allergic reactions are elicited when a substance such as mold that is not harmful in itself causes an immune response in susceptible individuals. The most common symptoms of an allergic response to increased levels of mold range from runny noses, itchy-watery eyes, coughing, sneezing, and throat irritation to more severe symptoms caused by chronic conditions such as sinusitis and asthma.

Irritation

Fungi produce Volatile Organic Compounds during the process of degrading substances to obtain nutrition. The VOCs are the cause of the typical “moldy/musty” commonly associated with fungal contamination indoors. Exposure to high levels of VOCs may irritate the mucous membranes and the central nervous system leading to symptoms of headaches, decreased attention span, difficulty in concentration, and dizziness.
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:43 AM   #5
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i had this problem while living in private rented accomadation-it was that bad it caused asthma in my 2 little boys-and i had to go to the a and e dept one night and stay in cause i couldnt breath and i had severe chest infection-

the problem was in the cella-that had been kept locked while i was living there with a padlock---till next door neighbour asked if we was flooded in cellar-so we went and looked and the whole place was wet through-this in turn led to mold build up as it was old and damp conditions----------the smell went round the whole house-the mold was everywhere-on window sills and even on the back side of one of my boys matteress

my gas bill for that that house exceded £500 pounds as it never heated up -all my gas was being sucked away by the damp

i reported them to the environmental health-who came out and inspected the house behind the landlords back-he told me the house was sooo bad that it would all need doing up before anyone should live there and there was no point heating the place as it all went through the roof or cellar-so i told him to hold back as i was moving out -
till i got my deposit back -which was a nightmare in itself-then i told them i had and they got in touch with the landlord and did them for it.
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:54 AM   #6
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Mold spore with single hypha
extending from main body

Mold is a fuzzy growth on moist organic matter by several types of fungi. Mildew is mold growing on fabric.

The quantity of mold fragments and spores needed to cause health problems varies from person to person. Besides inhalation, people can become exposed to mold through skin contact and eating moldy food.

Toxic molds can produce several toxic chemicals called mycotoxins that can damage your health. These chemicals are present on the spores and small mold fragments that are released into the air.

In high concentrations, mold fragments, spores, and mycotoxins can trigger symptoms even in individuals who have no allergies.

* Recent studies have linked mold to the rapid rise of the asthma rate over the past 20 years.
* A 1999 Mayo Clinic study implicates fungus as the cause of almost all of the chronic sinusitus afflicting 37 million Americans.
* Toxic molds can increase your susceptibility to a wide variety of diseases by weakening your immune system.

Molds reproduce by spreading microscopic spores. Mold spores waft through the indoor and outdoor air continually. When mold spores land on damp organic material, such as wood, paper, feathers, hair, cellulose, petroleum products, rubber, carpet, etc., they may begin growing and digesting the material.

Some molds live in temperatures below freezing, and some like it as warm as 122° F. Molds primarily thrive and become a problem when the relative humidity level is above 60%, with temperatures between 50 and 90 degrees F. (10 to 32 degrees C.) and a pH from 3 to 8. Molds also tend to be more robust in poorly ventilated areas with little air movement to disrupt their growth.

There is no practical way to eliminate all mold and mold spores in the indoor environment; the way to control indoor mold growth is to limit moisture. During humid weather, avoid excessive ventilation and use an air conditioners and/or dehumidifier to keep relative humidity below 60%. Sealing air leaks in the building's exterior and using a mechanical ventilation system to provide fresh filtered air can help to reduce entry of mold spores and make it easier to keep indoor relative humidity below 60%.

Indoor mold growth usually can be seen or smelled. In most cases, if visible mold growth is present, sampling is not needed. There are no health or exposure-based standards that individuals can use to evaluate a mold sample. The amount of mold it takes to cause illness varies from person to person.
Health Effects and Symptoms Associated with Mold Exposure

There are four kinds of health problems that come from exposure to mold:

* Allergic reactions
* Irritation of tissues
* Infections
* Toxic effects due to mycotoxins

Mold can trigger an allergic reaction and asthma in sensitized individuals (repeated exposure to mold or mold spores sometimes causes previously non-sensitive individuals to become sensitized). About 15 million Americans are allergic to mold. The most common reactions are flu-like symptoms and asthma. Those with chronic lung or immune problems, are at risk for more serious reactions like fever, lung infections and a pneumonia-like illness.

Some toxic molds such as Aspergillus, Cladosporium, Penicillium, Stachybotrys, and Trichoderma produce mycotoxins capable of causing severe health problems.

When mold grows indoors in moist organic materials, building occupants may begin to notice odors and suffer a variety of health problems associated with mold exposure.

Allergies

Inhaling or touching mold or mold spores can cause allergic reactions in sensitive individuals. Allergic reactions to mold are common — these reactions can be immediate or delayed up to six hours. Allergic reactions include:

* Respiratory problems, such as cough, sneezing, wheezing, infection, and/or difficulty in breathing
* Hay fever-type symptoms
* Nose and throat irritation
* Nasal or sinus congestion
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Watery, reddened, or burning eyes
* Sensitivity to light
* Red eyes
* Runny nose
* Sneezing
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Dermatitis ( skin rash or irritation)
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Headache
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Fatigue

Asthma

Molds can trigger asthma attacks in persons who are allergic (sensitized) to molds.

Irritant Effects

Even in non-allergic (non-sensitized) people, mold exposure can cause irritation of the eyes, skin, nose, throat, and lungs of both mold-allergic and nonallergic people.

Opportunistic Infections

People with weak immune systems (i.e., immune-compromised or immune-suppressed individuals) are more vulnerable to infections by molds (as well as more vulnerable than healthy persons to mold toxins). Aspergillus fumigatus, for example, has been known to cause aspergillosis in the lungs of immune-compromised individuals. These individuals inhale the mold spores which then start growing in their lungs. Trichoderma has also been known to infect immune-compromised children.

Healthy individuals are usually not vulnerable to opportunistic infections from airborne mold exposure. However, molds can cause common skin diseases, such as athlete's foot, as well as other infections such as yeast infections.

Hypersensitivity Pneumonitis

Hypersensitivity pneumonitis may develop following either short-term (acute) or long-term (chronic) exposure to molds. The disease resembles bacterial pneumonia and is uncommon.

Mold spores are hardened containers, which possess all the DNA instructions needed to create new mold creatures, aerial eggs as it were. If they bump into dry walls they just rebound and go back to floating, but when they bump into wet walls they stick. Out of the broken open shell a single creature's body appears, then a groping arm grows from that body, a leathery hypha, albino and clear, and then from that hypha grows another, and another, and then many, many others more. These hyphae are used by molds to obtain nourishment. For some species it is the sulfur grains in concrete that are sought, in others it's the metals in paint, or the glue in wallpaper, or even, for one especially abundant species, found at some time in almost every house in northern temperate climates, it will be the actual antibiotic poisons that the wood they land on produces which they slurp up and use as food. The hyphae excrete enzymes that break down complex organic materials. All over your house these freshly appearing mold creatures will plug into the walls via their hyphae.

Mold typically grows on organic materials that remain moist for more than 24 hours. Materials exposed to high humidity can become moist enough to support mold growth.. The volatile organic compounds (VOCs) released by some molds are toxic and associated with "Sick Building Syndrome".

Not everything the hyphae absorb can be handled by the main body of the creature further back. Many are too poisonous, and any mold that did accept them would lose its suction grip, unplug from the feeding spot, and fall poisoned to the floor. The way they get out of this problem is by spraying out the excess they don't need, releasing it in gaseous aerosols. At any moment during the day there will be freshly landed molds on the room walls in your home, aerosolizing carbon dioxide, hydrogen cyanide, ethanol fumes, various alcohols, and much else. Concentrations are generally too low to detect except with special equipment, but there are exceptions. Some are favorable, as with those wall molds related to the wild truffles, which produce an especially delectable emanation; but some of the exceptions are less pleasant, as with the molds that produce a musty or a rubbery smell. When the mold levels are high enough to produce this you're likely to be able to see them too, enormous colonies, which appear to us as an unpleasant fur. But even when the density is too low to see they're there, many thousands of separately plugged in mold individuals on a home's inner walls. In older houses, old layers of paint surviving from the 1920s are likely to contain arsenic — it was used as an oil binder — and fungi plugging in from newer layers above will spray out an arsenic derivative like everything else. At one time this was a hazard, but now there's so little of this old paint left around that it doesn't matter. The last poisoning in England from an arsenic derivative released by wall fungi was in 1931.

If enough moisture is available for the mold to emerge from hibernation, they are very likely to start growing on your walls. Most of the mold spores you get were probably produced locally, and any especially damp building in the neighborhood will act as a fertile nursery. Other mold spores come from further away, and the British meteorological service's sampling aircraft have detected them arriving in Britain across the sea from all sides, with buoyant flights across the North Sea from Denmark taking only two day or so with a fair wind. In the U.S. they can be blown from Texas to Minnesota within a week. The spores can last up to forty years before hatching.
Nutrition and Metabolism

Molds require one or more organic nutrients. Because molds must absorb or transport their nutrients through the cell surface, they compete with bacteria for organic nutrients. Many molds have an advantage over the bacteria in this competition, because they can secrete digestive extra cellular enzymes such as cellulases. Thus they can degrade an otherwise insoluble organic substrate into its smaller soluble subunits, which they then absorb and use as sources of carbon and energy. This enables the molds to use carbon sources — including cellulose, lignin, and keratin (a common component of hair, nails, and feathers — that are unavailable to most other microorganisms.
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:01 PM   #7
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Thank you for all the info AG, it'll help. I'm glad to hear you got OUT of that place!
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Old 07-08-2008, 08:32 AM   #8
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There is an effective herbal remedy known as thieves blend (they used to smear these oils on themselves to rob dead plague victims and remain unharmed) if you believe this mould is inside you, made from cloves, lemon, cinnanom, eucalyptus and rosemary.

http://www.thieves-secret.com/mold.htm

http://www.secretofthieves.com/

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Old 07-08-2008, 10:22 AM   #9
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I hope that you are feeling well!

Is it LEGAL for that vet clinic not to have hot water?!!! I am shocked.

That, on top of the mold situation, should have the place shut down until serious repairs can be made.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:51 PM   #10
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I hope that you are feeling well!

Is it LEGAL for that vet clinic not to have hot water?!!! I am shocked.

That, on top of the mold situation, should have the place shut down until serious repairs can be made.
I feel ok. This is my week at the mold clinic. I am noticing obvious symptoms though like headache, itchy eyes and fatigue.

Yesterday, even though I took Iron and B-12 in the morning, at the end of the day I felt so tired and...depressed. I started to feel a bit better when I was walking home.

There are 2 hepa filters here and air conditioning, but if my skin smells like mold when I get home there's a problem.

Not having any hot water at a vet clinic is pretty ridiculous.

I am at the mold free clinic next week, I will tell my boss on Monday I can no longer work here. Honestly I don't ever want to come in here again!
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