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Old 30-09-2008, 12:46 PM   #41
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Do you need an FAC? I have killed small game at 50 meters with a 12ft/lb rifle.
Getting a FAC is hassle for sure. What are the best options for this limit in your opinion? AA TX200? I've been thinking a lot about getting one recently.
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Old 30-09-2008, 05:27 PM   #42
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Getting a FAC is hassle for sure. What are the best options for this limit in your opinion? AA TX200? I've been thinking a lot about getting one recently.
Depends on budget and preference. If you have the money get a PCP such as an AA S410. They are easier to shoot as they have no recoil but you will need charging gear such as a stirrup pump. This is one of my rifle and has proven excellent. If your budget is tight you will probably have to settle for a springer (although the AA S200 PCP rifle is quite cheap). The TX200 is excellent. The disadvantage of spring rifles is that springs get weaker over time and will be ruined if left cocked. I was considering on of these but went for an Theoben Evolution. These gas ram rifles require almost no maintenance and will not get weaker if eft cocked as there is no spring. They do not require charing equipment like a PCP rifles but they are expensive. I think the cheapest gas ram rifle is Weirauch HW97 or 95. Never remember which one it is!!!

Essentially what you will need is something from a good manufacturer with 12 ft/lbs of power. Not sure if you have seen any shooting mags but Airgun World and Airgunner usually contain all sorts of good info.
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Old 30-09-2008, 05:39 PM   #43
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Was lining up to get one of these 12ftlb: http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...Rapid_MK1.html

+ Scope, the guy recomened one of these I think : http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...eSport_HD.html
(not sure which one)

+ The pump on this page: http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...cessories.html

Will probaly get on it tomo, just waiting for a bit more feedback and guidance.

Will see if I can blagg a free bag atleast after spazzing that lot, still I see it as an investemt.

Arranged my induction at the club this friday to get the ball rolling.
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Old 30-09-2008, 07:15 PM   #44
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Was lining up to get one of these 12ftlb: http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...Rapid_MK1.html

+ Scope, the guy recomened one of these I think : http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...eSport_HD.html
(not sure which one)

+ The pump on this page: http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...cessories.html

Will probaly get on it tomo, just waiting for a bit more feedback and guidance.

Will see if I can blagg a free bag atleast after spazzing that lot, still I see it as an investemt.

Arranged my induction at the club this friday to get the ball rolling.
The rapid is a nice rifle. I have used a Logun stirrup pump for years and it has been completely reliable. I think for a lot of people the choice of rifle comes down to looks. I still have my first rifle, and RWS Excalibur.
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Old 30-09-2008, 09:50 PM   #45
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Was lining up to get one of these 12ftlb: http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...Rapid_MK1.html

+ Scope, the guy recomened one of these I think : http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...eSport_HD.html
(not sure which one)

+ The pump on this page: http://www.allgunsdiscounted.co.uk/a...cessories.html

Will probaly get on it tomo, just waiting for a bit more feedback and guidance.

Will see if I can blagg a free bag atleast after spazzing that lot, still I see it as an investemt.

Arranged my induction at the club this friday to get the ball rolling.
Excellent choice, yu can also buy tuning kits for these rifles on ebay;or from here http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~trobb/
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Old 30-09-2008, 09:57 PM   #46
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Getting a FAC is hassle for sure. What are the best options for this limit in your opinion? AA TX200? I've been thinking a lot about getting one recently.
Like marpat said yu are better off with a gas ram or a PCP, if yu are buying a springer then buy a few spare replacement springs.
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Old 30-09-2008, 10:11 PM   #47
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Excellent choice, yu can also buy tuning kits for these rifles on ebay
Right then with your blessing I will proceed with the purchase tomo.
.22 caliber.

Can you advise on which scope, given that I intend to upgrade it post FAC.

To keep everthing above board I believe the upgrade needs to be done by a RFD.

I appreciate all your help mate.
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Old 30-09-2008, 11:20 PM   #48
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Depends on budget and preference. If you have the money get a PCP such as an AA S410. They are easier to shoot as they have no recoil but you will need charging gear such as a stirrup pump. This is one of my rifle and has proven excellent. If your budget is tight you will probably have to settle for a springer (although the AA S200 PCP rifle is quite cheap). The TX200 is excellent. The disadvantage of spring rifles is that springs get weaker over time and will be ruined if left cocked. I was considering on of these but went for an Theoben Evolution. These gas ram rifles require almost no maintenance and will not get weaker if eft cocked as there is no spring. They do not require charing equipment like a PCP rifles but they are expensive. I think the cheapest gas ram rifle is Weirauch HW97 or 95. Never remember which one it is!!!

Essentially what you will need is something from a good manufacturer with 12 ft/lbs of power. Not sure if you have seen any shooting mags but Airgun World and Airgunner usually contain all sorts of good info.
Thanks. I'll look into it.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:48 PM   #49
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Some other things you may wish to consider to. A set of lense cleaning items such as you would use for a good camera. I have lens cleaner, a puffer brush, and some lens cloth to prevent damaging the scope by using abrasive material.

Use pellet lubricant. It is supposed to tighten your groups but has an advantage in that it helps to prevent corrosion in the barrel.

Get a rifle in .177 cal. It will have the same power as a .22 but because the shot travels at a faster speed the curve of the shot is less, making distance corrections easier. .177 do penetrate more but if you use it at close range get some hollow point pellets to prevent the shot going straight through the pest.

There is a superb book out that covers the greater part of airgun hunting. It is Total Airguns by Pete Wadeson. It will tell you nearly everything you need to know. The magazines are sometimes good but get repetetive.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:05 PM   #50
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Right then with your blessing I will proceed with the purchase tomo.
.22 caliber.

Can you advise on which scope, given that I intend to upgrade it post FAC.

To keep everthing above board I believe the upgrade needs to be done by a RFD.

I appreciate all your help mate.
Yes i would go for .22, much better if yu want to upgrade to f.a.c, also stock up on some .22 bis mags an excellent heavy pellet for f.a.c rated air rifles. As for scopes, i use these..http://www.hawkeoptics.com/riflescopes/nite-eye.htm
Sorry that i havn't been giving too much time to the thread, i have been very busy working lately.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:14 PM   #51
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No probs mate I really appreciate your efforts. I have sniffed out some second hand gear based on your recomendations. Should be fully armed mid-end next week.
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:45 PM   #52
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I found a second hand Daystate PH6 last week and just had to buy it, a lovely top class PCP air rifle, and a piece of piss to tune will post a pic or 2 when i have the time.
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:25 PM   #53
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It's a Bergen on wheels - you can cram it full of stuff and take it anywhere. It seems the only sensible choice for a survivalist.
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:39 PM   #54
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It's a Bergen on wheels - you can cram it full of stuff and take it anywhere. It seems the only sensible choice for a survivalist.
That was meant to go in the Land Rover thread.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:49 PM   #55
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If you want a break-barrel, go for a Cometa Fenix 400 .22 with scope. They are full up to 12 ft/lbs and accurate too (for a springer). Also, you can upgrade them to 18 ft/lbs very easily as they are built in spain to be 20 ft/lbs hunters (but you'll need an FAC to do it legally in the UK). Cost is around £200 for a gun and scope kit. Use prometheus air "bullets" for max effect.
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews5590.html

If you want a charged gun, go for an Umarex 850 AirMagnum. Its a CO2 powered 8 shot bolt action that is a cracking gun. Cost is about £250 for a gun and scope kit. Use bisley magnums for max effect.
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews104363.html

If however you want something a little more uber....get a Baikal Drozd. Semi-auto ball bearing machinegun-alike little monster that is basically as close as you'll find to an Air-Uzi. Cost is about £150
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews5734.html
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If you want a break-barrel, go for a Cometa Fenix 400 .22 with scope. They are full up to 12 ft/lbs and accurate too (for a springer). Also, you can upgrade them to 18 ft/lbs very easily as they are built in spain to be 20 ft/lbs hunters (but you'll need an FAC to do it legally in the UK). Cost is around £200 for a gun and scope kit. Use prometheus air "bullets" for max effect.
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews5590.html

If you want a charged gun, go for an Umarex 850 AirMagnum. Its a CO2 powered 8 shot bolt action that is a cracking gun. Cost is about £250 for a gun and scope kit. Use bisley magnums for max effect.
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews104363.html

If however you want something a little more uber....get a Baikal Drozd. Semi-auto ball bearing machinegun-alike little monster that is basically as close as you'll find to an Air-Uzi. Cost is about £150
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews5734.html
Is that UK legal?
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:32 PM   #57
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Is that UK legal?
Such things are legal if they are under 6ft/lbs. I have just sold and AK74 air rifle that fired copper BB's. It had a power of 6ft/lbs but could not be used in any practical shooting sense.
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:37 PM   #58
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Baikal Drozd
http://www.airgundepot.com/drozdreview.html

Yeah, its not too impressive at all
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If you want a charged gun, go for an Umarex 850 AirMagnum. Its a CO2 powered 8 shot bolt action that is a cracking gun. Cost is about £250 for a gun and scope kit. Use bisley magnums for max effect.
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews104363.html
I must say i'm not really a fan of co2 air guns, you will have too stock up on lots of canisters to keep the gun going, although the gun does look o.k. I know somebody who is selling a wiehrauch HW97 if anybody is intrested, an excellent springer.
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I must say i'm not really a fan of co2 air guns, you will have too stock up on lots of canisters to keep the gun going, although the gun does look o.k. I know somebody who is selling a wiehrauch HW97 if anybody is intrested, an excellent springer.
Easy tiger, it almost sounds like you are advertising a weapon sale. Might be against forum rules.

A lot of co2 guns are just for show or plinking. Personally I prefer the PCP rifle
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