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Old 27-01-2013, 07:59 PM   #41
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MILWAUKEE (AP) — About 550 people have filed claims for restitution for alleged sexual abuse by clergy in the Archdiocese of Milwaukee — the most of the eight dioceses in the U.S. that have sought bankruptcy protection, a lawyer in the Milwaukee case said Wednesday.

James Stang, a bankruptcy lawyer who represents creditors in the Wisconsin case, estimated about 550 claims had been filed by the Wednesday afternoon deadline set by the court. The Milwaukee Archdiocese filed for bankruptcy protection last year, saying pending sex-abuse lawsuits could leave it with debts it couldn't afford.

The archdiocese has paid more than $30 million in settlements and other court costs related to alleged clergy abuse. The archdiocese only had $4.6 million in assets to be applied to claims in 2010. The bankruptcy court will decide the final payout, archdiocese spokeswoman Julie Wolf said.

A victim's advocacy group called the number of filings "extraordinarily tragic," but said that represented only a small portion of people abused by clergy.

"It's sad and it just shows how devastating these crimes have been on this community but it's obviously far from over," said Peter Isely, the Midwest director for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.

More than a dozen sex abuse lawsuits pending against the Milwaukee Archdiocese have been halted due to the bankruptcy proceedings. They include allegations against a priest accused of abusing some 200 boys at a suburban school for deaf students from 1950 to 1974.

The other seven Catholic dioceses in the U.S. that have filed for bankruptcy since the clergy abuse scandal erupted in 2002 in Boston are in Davenport, Iowa; Fairbanks, Alaska; Portland, Ore.; San Diego; Spokane, Wash.; Tucson, Ariz.; and Wilmington, Del. Two other religious orders have also filed for bankruptcy.

Of the seven other dioceses that also filed for bankruptcy, the number of claims ranged from about 40 to 250, Stang said. About 535 claimants had come forward against the Oregon Province of the Jesuits, he said.

Both Wolf and Jeff Anderson, a lawyer who represents clergy abuse victims, including some in the Milwaukee case, said it's hard to compare the cases. Anderson said each diocese represents a different number of people. And Wolf said some dioceses are incorporated differently.

Stang acknowledged some people file claims even though they weren't abused but said that was "extremely rare."

"Most people are not willing to come out and publicly say they were masturbated by someone," Stang said.

Anderson and the archdiocese both said they advertised the deadline both locally and nationally.

Anderson said his firm paid for TV and newspaper advertisements because he didn't think the archdiocese's efforts made the victims feel safe coming forward.

Wolfe disputed that. "We've just been focused on getting this message out far and wide to as many people as we could in order to make sure everybody who had a claim was able to submit it before this deadline occurred," she said.

A Feb. 9 court hearing is set for a judge to consider a request from the archdiocese to throw out some claims by people on grounds they were filed beyond the statute of limitations, they involved someone who was not an archdiocese employee or involve a victim involved in a prior settlement.

Wolf said she didn't know how many of the claims would be included in the request.

Payouts in the other bankruptcy cases have varied based on the severity of the abuse and the quality of the diocese's insurance coverage, according to Stang. For example, cases in Southern California yielded an average of about $1.2 million per claimant, he said, while the amount was far less in Fairbanks, Alaska, where less money was available.

Stang predicted the payouts wouldn't be on the generous side in Wisconsin. The creditors' committee, archdiocese and its insurance company will negotiate a dollar amount. After that, those who filed claims will negotiate between themselves on how to divide the money.

"Insurance-coverage issues in Milwaukee cases haven't been very good for survivors," he said. "The rulings by courts there have not been survivor-friendly."

Is that all?
550 seems a low number.
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Old 27-01-2013, 08:30 PM   #42
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Is that all?
550 seems a low number.
No offense, but you are one sick individual if you're being serious. For a single church in a town to have come under this amount of allegations is disturbing enough should even 1/5th of the the allegations turn out to be true.

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Old 30-01-2013, 07:30 AM   #43
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Yeah, and those laws made it legal for adults to have sexual relationships with 10-12 year olds up until recent centuries (the age of consent was even younger depending on the country and time).
A Christian cannot even engage in sexual activity, OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE. Or did you not know that???

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So, by your rationale, mandy, and jesus' standards, child-adult relationships are acceptable so long as the state lowers the age of consent to that of children? And also, this standard of jesus, that one must obey the state, is a perfect device to bend the people to the will of the goverment -- when laws are implemented that allow social services to take custody of your children (many are in place, already) or when laws are implemented that prohibits people from storing rainwater for their own needs jesus will be in favor of the goverment, by your rationale.
Thank you for making this 'statement'. All you have done is PROVEN how ignorant you are on what Jesus actually taught. Christians don't even VOTE because there are NO politicians who wants to put forward the teachings of Jesus in an assembly. Besides, you think Jesus cares for the 'government of the land'?

“My kingdom is not of this world." ~ John 18:36

So if Jesus' kingdom is not of this world, then whose kingdom is this? A clue... it most certainly is not ruled by Christians.
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