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Old 10-05-2017, 09:05 PM   #521
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15 incarcerations and one conditional discharge
My apologies, this should actually read "16 men charged"

I am not so much interested in the legal aspects whatsoever of this above case, (Those aspects are expertly covered on many websites) ; but rather the connections from 10 Downing Street and Bryn Alyn Community which is semi-covertly raising it's head above the water in this matter, by the inaction of 10 Downing Street and the Home Office (in the child abuse and the corruption), and alternatively the address of the respondent being targeted instead, as a matter of possible protectionism of those carrying out any unlawful activities.
Naturally, the 640+ raids carried out apparently, (so we are told) for snuff and underage movies, which in essence seemingly failed, despite 82 potential defendants, 60+ suicides, and 16 chargees broadly involved with self abuse,(prior to the trial considered to be lawful at the time) does seem extremely questionable.
Had the 16 men charged been used as an "add-on" in 1987 because the whole operation from 1983 to 1986 had been a failure? What had happened to the other 66 potential defendants. Do those come under the suicide statistics of the case?
Was the Bryn Alyn connection too important for Downing Street to intervene?
Had the two planes at Shoreham Airfield played a much larger role?
Could it be that John Allen was more than just a tenant and customer of Van Hogestraten?
Is that who owned the planes too? After all they both had contingent business interests in both Brighton and Amsterdam, for starters. A lot of odd coincidences,- too many in my humble opinion.

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Old 13-05-2017, 10:58 AM   #522
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Why had a corrupt senior officer of Manchester Children's Services been allowed to operate for many years as a pimp for John Allen's child prostitution racket?
Why was the officer never questioned or charged after being reported to Downing Street in 1985 for threatening the author of a report on Bryn Alyn in 1983? (Ref: Lost in Care 21.115 / Letter to 10 Downing Street (Reply 4th june 1985)
Why was he never sacked by Manchester Social Services?
Why were he and John Allen given full backing for taking no action on child abuse reported at Bryn Alyn in 1983.
Why had no action been taken over the report which stated there had been no mandatory records available or taken at Blackley House, Bryn
Alyn including fire, health, medications, or general day notes.
Why had there been no follow up interventions of any of the many
Social Services Departments involved, particularly since the report recommended a full investigation, and full monitoring of all Bryn Alyn operations in/from 1983 onwards? (Ref: Lost in Care 21.114)
Why had John Allen been so important to number 10?
Why had there been no request to interview or speak with the author of the report, since he had further information to offer ? (Ref: Lost in Care 21.113)
Were the various Social Services departments still unaware of the abuse after 10 Downing Street and the Home Office had been informed in 1985? (Ref: Lost in Care 21.115)
If the matter had been passed to the Welsh Office, why had no actions been undertaken, save for a few visits to John Allen?

Why had it taken until Operation Pallial in 2014 (31 years later) before anybody had spoken to the author about matters in the report of 1983, particularly since it had been reported to 10 Downing Street in 1985?.

Why had a member of John Allen's security been trespassing and was almost caught eavesdropping at the report author's secluded house in the middle of the night in December 1983?

Did John Allen wrongly suspect he had been set up, and worried because there was more at stake than just child abuse and child prostitution? (The mature student involved in making the report in October 1983 had only been on site for a total of 24 hours, but listed numerous cases of physical abuse, general malpractice in many circumstances, including preventing children from going home at the weekend, and false accounting/making a false statement to police by John Allen personally).(Ref: Lost in Care 21.113).

Is that why visitors to the whistleblower's house had been raided by the police under Operation Spanner, from 1983/87, in their quest to perhaps find a connection to John Allen, or any of Allen's possibly missing snuff or extreme movies?

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Old 14-05-2017, 09:01 PM   #523
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The landing strip directly opposite the main entrance to Bryn Alyn Hall.

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Old 14-05-2017, 09:47 PM   #524
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Channel 4
Tue, 20 Nov 2012 07:58 UT

"In a report by Channel 4 on the initial investigation into north Wales child abuse in 1991 to the Waterhouse inquiry in 2000, Sian Griffiths, North Wales council worker, has collated details of every allegation and document surrounding the scandal. In her testimony, she reveals evidence of judges silencing victims when they mentioned "high profile" names and court orders to destroy photographic and other evidence implicating 'high level' abusers."

I can't embed this Channel Four video.

Notes on a Scandal

https://www.channel4.com/news/child-...sian-griffiths

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Found this on Youtube (same video) uploaded by a French subscriber.

There used to be many copies of this interview on Youtube by British subscribers, now only Channel Four.


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Senior judge found dead in freezing village stream
By Daily Mail Reporter
Updated: 11:07, 3 February 2009

A senior judge has been found dead in the freezing waters of a village stream.

The body of Judge William Everard, 59, was discovered in Fakenham in Norfolk, near the holiday home he owned with his wife.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4h66UXKal

He became a district judge in 2004 after previously being a leading criminal barrister and Queen's Counsel who headed the KCH chambers in Nottingham.

As a barrister, he specialised in crime and was at the forefront of prosecuting child sex offences.

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Old 22-05-2017, 09:04 PM   #526
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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 07:58 UT

"In a report by Channel 4 on the initial investigation into north Wales child abuse in 1991 to the Waterhouse inquiry in 2000, Sian Griffiths, North Wales council worker, has collated details of every allegation and document surrounding the scandal. In her testimony, she reveals evidence of judges silencing victims when they mentioned "high profile" names and court orders to destroy photographic and other evidence implicating 'high level' abusers."

I can't embed this Channel Four video.

Notes on a Scandal

https://www.channel4.com/news/child-...sian-griffiths

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Found this on Youtube (same video) uploaded by a French subscriber.

There used to be many copies of this interview on Youtube by British subscribers, now only Channel Four.

Intentional destruction of pertinent evidence likely to be requested by victims is unlawful.
Who made the court orders I wonder? - naturally, vicarious liability would also come into focus here.

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Old 22-05-2017, 09:20 PM   #527
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Not new information, but let's keep this thread alive.

Cyril Smith was Knighted and also a Freemason.

Bro. Cyril Smith of The Mercurius Masonic Lodge, No. 7507 in Cheltenham which also has members of GCHQ (Government Communications Headquarters) aka spies.

Published on Sep 12, 2013

"During his lifetime Cyril Smith was one of the UK's best-known politicians. But a new investigation shows that security services held on to a file with evidence of the Liberal MP's child abuse."

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Old 22-05-2017, 09:23 PM   #528
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Senior judge found dead in freezing village stream
By Daily Mail Reporter
Updated: 11:07, 3 February 2009

A senior judge has been found dead in the freezing waters of a village stream.

The body of Judge William Everard, 59, was discovered in Fakenham in Norfolk, near the holiday home he owned with his wife.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4h66UXKal

He became a district judge in 2004 after previously being a leading criminal barrister and Queen's Counsel who headed the KCH chambers in Nottingham.

As a barrister, he specialised in crime and was at the forefront of prosecuting child sex offences.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4h66gWClJ

This is interesting as it seemingly links to Judge Everard presiding in a case over VIP paedophiles.
A judge would be good at judging how much he drinks/
Two pints and a glass of wine does not render a man totally incapable - certainly not from a profession where it is common to drink at lunchtimes, not in my opinion, anyway.
It would appear that he came into difficulties when having to negotiate a stream, slipping, but not injuring himself and passing into unconsciousness before hitting the water.
If this happened within 100 to 200 metres (more if used to drink) or so of the pub, it is entirely consistent with having a sleeping tablet ( or similar drug) mixed into the final drink. As in this type of scenario, a loss of balance can trigger immediate unconsciousness causing the person to slump to the ground instead of a normal fall, thus avoiding injury when hitting the ground. In that scenario, the inabilty to balance would have been noticeable to him before having to walk on stones to cross the river, where balance would have to be perfect.
It happened to me once.
Presumably the coroner would have said if a heart attack was the case, but cause of death was given as drowning.

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This is interesting as it seemingly links to Judge Everard presiding in a case over VIP paedophiles.
A judge would be good at judging how much he drinks/
Two pints and a glass of wine does not render a man totally incapable - certainly not from a profession where it is common to drink at lunchtimes, not in my opinion, anyway.
It would appear that he came into difficulties when having to negotiate a stream, slipping, but not injuring himself and passing into unconsciousness before hitting the water.
If this happened within 100 to 200 metres (more if used to drink) or so of the pub, it is entirely consistent with having a sleeping tablet ( or similar drug) mixed into the final drink. As in this type of scenario, a loss of balance can trigger immediate unconsciousness causing the person to slump to the ground instead of a normal fall, thus avoiding injury when hitting the ground. In that scenario, the inabilty to balance would have been noticeable to him before having to walk on stones to cross the river, where balance would have to be perfect.
It happened to me once.
Presumably the coroner would have said if a heart attack was the case, but cause of death was given as drowning.
There is an old DIF thread relating to the death of the Judge in 2009. See below.

A woman named Kathy Everard tweeted her cousin (the judge) had been murdered. Needleblog ran the story too, but some folk say she's (conveniently) crazy.



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For connections with 10 Downing Street/ Church of England/ Margaret Thatcher/ Bryn Alyn- John Allen/
see the Operation Spanner thread on Open Forum- Information share.
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There is an old DIF thread relating to the death of the Judge in 2009. See below.

A woman named Kathy Everard tweeted her cousin (the judge) had been murdered. Needleblog ran the story too, but some folk say she's (conveniently) crazy.



https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=52410

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There is a bad habit/procedure these days of having hearings that have the slightest link into establishment figures transferred over to secret courts, to be heard by masonic judges, thus avoiding media interest, and when the local media reports what has been handed to them, the story is grossly watered down to remove any important and incriminating data.
There are no proper checks on the validity of evidence in these procedures, and very good witnesses may be utterly trashed behind their backs, without even knowing it, nor having the opportunity to respond
to what may be absolute bollocks presented to the jury as valid evidence by the state.
It would also appear that in such hearings more than one set of documents may be used offering two different and alternative stories, and thus fooling a witness into believing that the jury has seen the same documents they have referred to. I have seen it happen. The witness may refer to their statement in good faith in the original they have before them, unaware that the jury's version of that statement says that they don't remember or cannot recall if what they wrote was the truth, and could be totally wrong.

They do it all the time.

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What about Geoffrey Archer? Wasn't he a sir when he got banged up? As a Lord I would think he would be higher than a knight maybe.

I just read that earls cannot be arrested for debt
No Archer has never been knighted. Lords are fair game. I repeat - no Knight of the realm can be imprisoned.
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No Archer has never been knighted. Lords are fair game. I repeat - no Knight of the realm can be imprisoned.
That may only be dependent upon which authority is doing the imprisoning. Personally, I see no reason for exemption unless it is to be applied to all beings equally. It is often precisely and often those "above the law" that have no regard for law nor justice. Drugs and arms smuggling as a prime example comes immediately to mind, and murder also. Exemption from the law often leads to lawlessness and corruption in full knowledge that they receive "special treatment". Many such unlawful actions stem from this sort of inequality.
Exactly which so-called "knight of the realm" do you refer to? Was someone actually unofficially employed to undertake "suiciding" of specified persons?
It would not relate to the multiple suspicious deaths revolving around John Allen's activities, would it?

38 posts in 8 years is quite remarkable.

Excerpts from the Testimony of Andrea Davison.

2.2 During the course of the investigation clear links were identified between illegal arms sales, drugs trafficking, support for terrorist groups and the sale and distribution of child pornography, including snuff videos. The illegal arms trade is connected to a much larger organised criminal network. The fact that sections of the Conservative Government, the police and government agencies were involved made it more perilous and destructive to the fabric of society. No-one knew who is working for whom!

2.3 I was later to give evidence of these matters in secret to Lord Justice Scott’s Inquiry into ‘Arms to Iraq’ (Sample Documents 1 and 2)

2.4 I became involved in the investigation of child abuse in 1989 whilst carrying out a search of a suspect xxxxxxxxx premises. We found hard drugs and child pornography in video and photographic form. Some of it looked ritualistic. The suspect was involved with a company called xxxx Technology. xxxxx was engaged in research at a building connected with Bangor University. The investigation concerned tech transfer of biological weapons data to Iraq. xxxxxxxx lived close to and was associated with xxxxxx who ran the xxxxxx gym in xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx following further investigation it was discovered that xxxxxxxxxx was distributing pornography on a large scale including child porn videos and highly priced snuff videos, where a child would be sexually abused and murdered on film. xxxxxxx a former mercenary was involved with another mercenary xxxxxx who had been in Angola. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxe were protected by the Police and certain sections of the intelligence community for which they worked, I understand, on contract.

2.5 Following the discovery of the child porn, mentioned above I decided to run an unsanctioned parallel investigation into child pornography. This included an investigation into ‘snuff’ videos. I discovered some of the children exploited were from local children’s homes where there appeared to exist a ready supply of children.
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It is becoming more and more obvious what exactly "royal exemption" represents, is it not?

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THE PROSTITUTION AND PORN EMPIRE OF JOHN ALLEN

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The Strange Death of Michael Colvin

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"Michael Colvin

Colvin was associated closely with several other Conservative ‘people’ on the right wing of the party including Julian Lewis who is said to be involved with a number of international right wing ‘covert’ groups linked with high finance, and arms dealing.

Colvin was also associated with two allegedly corrupt and discredited former Parliamentary Lobbyists, Ian Greer (cash for questions) and Derek Laud (wikipedia/Derek Laud) (Cash for Knighthoods aka Cash for Rentboys).

Both Greer and Laud have links with South Africa – Greer now lives there and Laud is a frequent visitor.

In view of their links with Parliamentary corruption in the UK and extreme levels of alleged corruption in the ‘new’ South African multi-racial Government, it seems possible that both Greer and Laud may find the culture of South Africa politically highly amenable.

It is probably only a coincidence, but during a major scandal around the abuse of children in care in an area of the UK called Clwyd, both laud and Greer’s names were mentioned by alleged victims in connection with organised sexual abuse involving VIP’s including, allegedly, members of the UK Government.

During that scandal a fire in Hove, near Brighton, killed five alleged victims of abuse. Many people believe the fire was deliberately set. With the five young people from Clwyd who died was a Health Visitor from Hampshire where Laud has a home and where Colvin lived. She also was killed in the fire.

Michael Colvin died at a fire in his magnificent Hampshire home. He had been speaking to Derek Laud days, if not hours, previously.

There have been many allegations that Hampshire County Council, and of course Colvin lived in Hampshire, through the influence of Derek Laud and his friend Julian Lewis, is a central player in a national paedophile ring supplying young boys from care systems as in Clwyd to VIP’s. The VIP’s are said to have included top people in the law, commerce, and politics – across the party spectrum – at specially organised parties and other gatherings sometime on a one to one basis and sometimes at hotels where staff allegedly colluded with the exploitation of youngsters. The Crest hotel in Wrexham and an Hotel on Hove seafront have specifically been mentioned, although in the Hove instance it maybe that staff at the hotel colluded with the supply of youngsters and that ‘meetings’ took place elsewhere.

It has been alleged that officials and councillors in a number of local authorities may be receiving payments for identifying ‘appropriate’ young people in care and introducing them to the ring, and ultimately to Laud and Lewis and their associates, who then, it has been alleged, introduce the boys to ‘interested’ VIP’s.

Within the list of alleged collaborators in counties along the south coast with the supply of teenage boys for exploitation is a Social Services Director in one LA., an Assistant Director of Children’s Social Services in another, chief executives in two others, several social workers and also a number of child protection workers. As well as a number of Councillors, including former Leader of Hampshire Council and Lord Mayor of Portsmouth, Freddie Emery Wallis who was convicted in 2001 of molesting young boys.


In the 1990’s Derek Laud had an address at East Cottage, Needs Ore Point (shown on electoral records). That is on the Estate of Lord Monatgue of Beuleigh who those of ‘a certain age’ will remember was convicted of molesting a boy scout back in the 1960’s.

Colvin was associated with most of these people in one way or another.

Recent revelations involve the corruption of evidence by senior council officials in North Wales with regard to information supplied to the Waterhouse inquiry into allegations of VIP child abuse in Clwyd. It has been revealed that although in the inquiry allegations made by a number of young people were discredited because they had made allegations against social workers who records showed had not been employed where they said during the time they were in care in those homes, in fact, if allegations are true, a secretary in North Wales Council had been instructed to alter the official records of dates and where and when specific youngsters were in care. (Angus Stickler, BBC, gained some evidence about this). It was not therefore the youngsters who were lying, but the officials. More significantly, these tricks were played mainly on youngsters who had made allegations against care workers and against VIP’s. With the allegations against the care workers discredited, obviously the allegations against VIP’s fell by the wayside.

There have also been allegations that this high level paedophile ‘ring’ has placed its own people into positions of statutory power over children in care, and investigation suggests these allegations may have substance.

The involvement of Derek Laud, who was educated in the remedial stream at a South London comprehensive school where it has been alleged he pimped his classmates to wealthy and influential adults even while still at school, is significant. The psychopathic behaviour of Laud and Lewis that has caused significant comment from time to time may be far more dangerous than just eccentric.

It is worthy of note that people around Derek Laud who challenge him appear to suffer significant harm – or to die – with unusual frequency. Michael Colvin was an associate. Deceased investigative journalist Simon Regan challenged both Laud and Lewis frequently and died ‘after a short illness’ soon after his final tirade against Laud and Lewis. The alleged victims of VIP abuse who died in a fire in Palmeira Avenue Hove in 1991 had also linked Laud, Lewis, and Greer, to the circumstances of the abuse they said they had suffered in care.

Colvin therefore, despite a fairly mundane Tory image, was aligned with some allegedly very nasty people indeed.

As a final comment, in the 1980’s and 1990’s, and some say currently, it appears that lobbyists such as Greer and Laud were supplying teenage boys to MP’s and others in politics specifically with the aim of exerting political influence.

Michael Portillo, Peter Lilley, Ian Hamilton, and other Thatcherite politicians of the 1980’s were all associated with Laud and Lewis, and all were alleged to have been guests at paedophile parties in London at which boys from care in a number of local authorities, including North Wales, Shropshire, Hampshire, Dorset, Brighton and Hove and others, were allegedly ‘ferried in’ with the co-operation of social workers to provide sexual entertainments for the guests. It has also been alleged that Portillo frequently took ‘kinky holidays’ in North Africa with his friend Derek Laud. Portillo insists that Laud was a guest on these holidays of him and his wife, but it has been alleged that hotel records do not confirm that Portillo’s wife was there at all.

Finally there have been specific allegations that the main aim of this ring is not to provide jollies for kinky MP’s and others, but to exert influence over them in their work by blackmail.

All in all, Michael Colvin chose some odd and dangerous friends. Given the number of people linked with this group who have died or suffered harm in odd circumstances, some going back more than 20 years, perhaps Colvin’s premature and dramatic demise should be considered as almost predictable. Those who mess with psychopaths should expect the unexpected. Or premature encounters with the inevitable.”

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It was alleged at the time by Scallywag magazine that Stephen Milligan was originally approached by the security services to attempt to dissuade a well-known footballer coming towards the end of his career from continuing to hawk his story of gay sex sessions with two then serving cabinet ministers around Fleet Street. Milligan was a well respected MP and part time journalist. Milligan allegedly approached the footballer who was not prepared to drop his attempts to sell the story. Milligan allegedly reported back to the security services who informed Milligan that unless the footballer did keep matters quiet he would be eliminated. Apparently there was more to the story than simply the gay sex aspect, the introduction of the footballer to the cabinet ministers was allegedly arranged by a third party who had very close links with an extremely powerful paedophile ring. The implication was that the cabinet ministers may also have been involved with the paedophile ring although this was not confirmed in the Scallywag report, however it was very clearly hinted at. It was allegedly decided by the security services that the potential damage to the British Constitution if the story got out was so great that it would not only bring down the government but could also destablise the entire concept of parliamentary democracy. The cabinet ministers involved were very high profile indeed and the alleged paedophile link, if revealed, would have had a catastrophic effect on not only public confidence in domestic government but would have had repercussions on the image of Britain right around the world. When Milligan realised that the threat to murder the footballer was in fact serious, he allegedly panicked. He had not realised that he was being dragged into something with such serious implications and, being an extremely moral and decent man, it wasn’t something he was prepared to be involved with or to go along with. He allegedly made one more unsuccessful attempt to convince the footballer to back down, even warning the footballer that his life was in danger. The footballer didn’t believe that this sort of thing could go on in modern day Britain and continued to attempt to sell the story, which no editor to that date had been brave enough to publish. Milligan was allegedly informed by the security services that, his efforts at dissuasion having failed, the footballer would be killed with his death being made to look like an accident. Milligan then allegedly threatened the security services that if anything happened, he would tell the whole story to The Sunday Times. Shortly afterwards Stephen Milligan died, having apparently hanged himself and being found with a satsuma in his mouth. He had no previous history of kinky or unusual sexual practices whatsoever and, despite their utmost efforts to do so, the national press were unable to find any evidence whatsoever that he had anything other than an extremely conventional sex life. Indeed, it was generally reported that sex and sexuality appeared not to have played a significant part in his life at all. The footballer was allegedly approached directly after Milligan’s death by the security services and, now realising that they had been prepared to kill a sitting MP to keep the story quiet, realised for the first time that his life was in danger. He allegedly accepted a sum of money in return for his silence." (end of quote)

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THE MACUR REVIEW — Part Two: THE £3m WHITEWASH
(apologies if this has already been posted - a second airing will do no harm, nonetheless)

Operation Pallial detectives found new victims of John Allen from the 1970s. In 2014 he was gaoled for life for abusing 19 of them in the 1970s and 1980s.
But Pallial did not investigate if any of these victims had tried to complain at the time.And it found:

“ … no evidence of systemic or institutional misconduct by North Wales Police officers or staff in connection with these matters …”.

The baton passed to the Macur Review. Its report — which cost £3m million and took more than three years to complete — found:

“ … no reason to undermine the conclusions of the Tribunal in respect of the nature and scale of the abuse.”

It brushed aside the evidence submitted by Rebecca.

The Review is yet another whitewash.
https://paddyfrench1.wordpress.com/2...-3m-whitewash/

Part One may be found here:
THE MACUR REVIEW — Part One: BLOODY WHITEWASH

NINE MONTHS after she agreed to chair the Review, Julia Macur was promoted to the Court of Appeal — one of 42 senior judges who gain a knighthood (or its equivalent) and a seat on the Privy Council.
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" They were trying to do everything they could to cover it up" (at 2:40 in)

"It's a billion dollar industry - People get convicted, but there is never any investigation into their finances" (at 3:30 in)

Former British Intel Operative Andrea Davison, on the run for exposing child sex abuse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAaPXWdTXyU

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Old 24-08-2017, 10:30 AM   #539
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QUOTE=grimstock;1062951406]Operational Timeline:
November 1983: Threats against his person from third parties are made personally by a senior officer of Manchester Children's Services by telephone to his home.
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The senior officer from Manchester Children's Services who had made the threat mentioned above - (Ref: Lost in Care, chapter 21, para. 115) was alleged to have been involved with assigning children from the Manchester area who had sexual experience and/or good looks, to the Bryn Alyn Community for and on behalf of John Allen, (whom he had claimed to have personally known for some twenty years).

It was unlikely that he was merely acting on his own behalf, as it would appear, despite investigations, that he was never charged with any offence.

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The allegations exposed the tip of a network which included Peter Righton, Sir Jimmy Savile and various well known people in the procurement, exploitation and even murder of children for the sex trade. The public had a legitimate interest in the investigation of these allegations.


3.8 Evidence existed that children were removed from the Care Homes in North Wales and Care Homes throughout the United Kingdom where they would be exploited in the sex trade by a sophisticated nationwide organisation of elite paedophiles.

3.9 Allegations were made concerning the exploitation and procurement of children from North Wales Care Homes to a Hotel in Wrexham, Dolphin Square London and private properties in various places which were either owned by paedophiles or were safe-houses owned by various state agencies. The allegations exposed the tip of a network which included Peter Righton, Sir Jimmy Savile and various well known people in the procurement, exploitation and even murder of children for the sex trade. The public had a legitimate interest in the investigation of these allegations.

3.10 Other allegations whilst not specifically concerning exploitation of children from care homes in North Wales were made concerning exploitation in other care homes in the UK. The nationwide practice of exploiting children in State care for the sex trade should have been a matter which was taken up by the Waterhouse inquiry or otherwise a recommendation made for a Nationwide Inquiry. Once these allegations of very serious and organised criminal activities surfaced they should not have been ignored because of the limited terms of reference.

3.11 The Public had a legitimate interest in the full exposure and investigation of the horrific sexual, physical and psychological abuse of children and subsequent and satellite issues arising from that abuse. This included full and proper investigation of public figures, police officers, judges, intelligence personnel, civil servants and others accused of horrific crimes or the cover-up of those crimes. The Public had a legitimate interest in the exposure of the extent and nature of the cover-up and the names and organisation involved in the cover-up. This is particularly the case as more than one Home Secretary was believed to have been involved.

3.12 For there to be no further on-going concern about the welfare of children in North Wales, it was essential to root out, expose and prosecute those who were involved in both the abuse and the cover-up of that abuse.

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