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Old 19-02-2015, 02:29 PM   #41
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No, I wouldn't, but it's you saying that, not them. They would couch it in more careful terms.
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Old 19-02-2015, 02:57 PM   #42
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No, I wouldn't, but it's you saying that, not them. They would couch it in more careful terms.
these "careful terms" are understood by everyone except the most hardcore apologist,

I suppose Barroso was just pouring the tea when attending "the steering group of the bilderberg conferences".

you will claim it's all about interpretation,

I'm happy to let the reader decide whether this EU project sounds legitimate,
whether the propaganda matches the reality.

are you ?
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Old 19-02-2015, 04:16 PM   #43
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"abandon thread, oooooooooo s mentioned a connection of the EU establishment to the bilderberg group"

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"abandon thread"

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Old 19-02-2015, 04:26 PM   #44
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these "careful terms" are understood by everyone except the most hardcore apologist,

I suppose Barroso was just pouring the tea when attending "the steering group of the bilderberg conferences".

you will claim it's all about interpretation,

I'm happy to let the reader decide whether this EU project sounds legitimate,
whether the propaganda matches the reality.

are you ?
And look who DID turn up to question Bilderburg .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtXYMh78OY

UKIP & EU Parliament Member Gerard Batten at Bilderberg Protest .
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Old 21-02-2015, 07:53 AM   #45
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eu is a good idea only if the chief at the top of the eu is good.

in group, tribe, structure,

if the chief of the tribe is good then all the little indians in the tribe will be good.

if the chief of the tribe is bad, wild then all the little indians in the tribe will be bad, wild.

too bad many europeans think they are too smart for religion

if you liked religion you could live

Under Gods All Good Government

and you would like it, unless your name is lucifer.

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Old 21-02-2015, 08:17 AM   #46
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With eu what is needed is a mechanism to question, shake down people like nate rothschild, a lever to bring him and his father, cousins, relatives, thier help, in for questioning on matters that effect others.

having a bunch of dark hidden away little fiefdoms is not good, that leaves too much room for error favoritism and corruption.

nates money is worthless in a cashless electronic society where money is made by putting zeros into an account like this

100000000000000000000.

there, that was easy. and everyone will have their own gold american express mastercard that links to their account.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

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Old 21-02-2015, 08:22 AM   #47
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dont get tooo excited , they dont want this , soo will try anything to sway the populus into thinking its great idea to be in the e.u , something to do with banks jobs and immigration will the nudge for this, they the public will sway confidence in the .e.u , the referendum could be the turning point of this, be aware the dirty tatics they will use to sway and nudge you into the .e.u
its been a plan since roman times
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Old 21-02-2015, 10:45 AM   #48
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Of course 80% want to quit. People shouldn't be ruled like frickin lemmings. Far better to have small sustainable governments with no secrets.
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Old 21-02-2015, 10:52 AM   #49
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It doesn't matter what the public want...democracy is dead

The nwo crew are not going to care about the will of the people

They laugh at protest marches
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Old 21-02-2015, 11:01 AM   #50
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If I see 80% of my fellow citizens running one way, I am going to point and laugh and watch them making a fool of themselves.
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Old 21-02-2015, 12:22 PM   #51
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If I see 80% of my fellow citizens running one way, I am going to point and laugh and watch them making a fool of themselves.
Even though 80% of the MSM tell them they are wrong ??

Now who do I trust ...the People or the MSM ?...mmmm let me think
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Old 21-02-2015, 12:26 PM   #52
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I trust neither.
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Old 21-02-2015, 12:32 PM   #53
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I trust neither.
That explains a lot about you .......you trust Labour ,but not the people who they treated like shit and have now deserted them ......
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Old 21-02-2015, 01:45 PM   #54
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That explains a lot about you .......you trust Labour ,but not the people who they treated like shit and have now deserted them ......
I don't trust Labour, I just distrust them less than I distrust the others. Better the devil I know, n that.
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Old 21-02-2015, 01:50 PM   #55
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It's only a matter of time before they tell us that there will be 6 million unemployed if we leave the EU
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Oy vey, there'll be a Doleocaust!
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I don't trust Labour, I just distrust them less than I distrust the others. Better the devil I know, n that.
Or you could vote with your feet and leave the devil altogether

Labour are just a fabian socialist vehicle

Their inner order are working for the new world order just as surely as the inner order of the tories are

A quick search engine search about who funds the tories quickly shows that they are funded by the financial sector

The 'labour' party are funded by fabian socialists who are involved with the financial sector

David Rockefeller wrote his thesis at university on fabian socialism

The london school of economics is a fabian institution and it was financed by the bankers along with the tavistock institute
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I don't trust Labour, I just distrust them less than I distrust the others. Better the devil I know, n that.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...people-5207258

Those prepared to leave Europe rose to 73% among Tory voters and 92% for Ukippers - but more than half of Labour voters also agreed .

Will Labour Listen ?? I doubt it .
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Old 22-02-2015, 05:30 PM   #59
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I trust neither.
You don't trust the "people",
Which exactly mirrors the opinions of ex emperor and bilderberg chew toy Barroso,
Ok, fair play.

You don't trust the "msm",
which I don't believe for a minute,
appears to me you have set up camp in the manufactured reality of the social architects.


yet you are outspoken on your total trust and obedience to the EU and it's vision of an authoritarian supranational "empire".


when the EU falls the collaborators will be the first thrown to the lions whilst the tiny criminal minority make their escape,
There's a thought to keep you warm on these cold winter nights.
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You don't trust the "people",
Which exactly mirrors the opinions of ex emperor and bilderberg chew toy Barroso,
Ok, fair play.

You don't trust the "msm",
which I don't believe for a minute,
appears to me you have set up camp in the manufactured reality of the social architects.


yet you are outspoken on your total trust and obedience to the EU and it's vision of an authoritarian supranational "empire".


when the EU falls the collaborators will be the first thrown to the lions whilst the tiny criminal minority make their escape,
There's a thought to keep you warm on these cold winter nights.
The European Union isn't going to 'fall'
It's the largest economy in the world
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