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Old 12-12-2007, 09:52 PM   #1
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Lightbulb What non-electrical gadgets should we buy ?

As we all know, the country will probably at some stage go into a state of chaos, the world economy will go bust, there will be no food on the shelves, there may be long periods without electric and gas etc etc

I am thinking about buying non-electrical gadgets that may help us to survive during the times of chaos. Electrical gadgets could quite probably become worthless in the future so we need to make sure we stop wasting our money NOW. We need to spend any savings we may have before our money becomes worthless.

Maybe we could buy things like a pasta making rolling machine that I saw Jamie Oliver use to make fresh pasta from flour and eggs.

A wheat grinder to make bread (assuming we have an oven to cook it in and that we have got some wheat lol).

A potters wheel.

A drill that works mechanically.

Wind up torches.

My ideas are not too brilliant. Has anyone got any BETTER ideas ? All ideas are very welcome
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:54 PM   #2
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Oil lamps.....Aladdin are very pretty and effective, stock up on lamp oil.LOL.
Windup short wave am /fm radio
Solar powered laptop ...there are around.
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:38 PM   #3
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Wind up torches.
Good idea! I got one for Leeds fest last year... uses LEDs and is very economical and quite a bright light. Only last a couple of hours before it needs winding again, but I would put one in my 2012 survival kit for sure!
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I just bought a portable gas cooker (under £20 including 4 butane cannisters) on a hunch that it might come in handy one day. Am I mad

Anyone else got Nukalert ? (check out the .com)
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:06 PM   #5
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I just bought a portable gas cooker (under £20 including 4 butane cannisters) on a hunch that it might come in handy one day. Am I mad

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I got one for Leeds fest, it was excellent. Problem is how long will the butane last? A few weeks?
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:42 PM   #6
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I got one for Leeds fest, it was excellent. Problem is how long will the butane last? A few weeks?
I get about 15 boils of the kettle from a can or cooking a main meal and 10 boils of the kettle, so a can lasts about a day on heavy use...stockpile cans!!

or build a browns gas/HHO gas torch then you can cook using water as fuel!
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:02 AM   #8
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As we all know, the country will probably at some stage go into a state of chaos, the world economy will go bust, there will be no food on the shelves, there may be long periods without electric and gas etc etc

I am thinking about buying non-electrical gadgets that may help us to survive during the times of chaos. Electrical gadgets could quite probably become worthless in the future so we need to make sure we stop wasting our money NOW. We need to spend any savings we may have before our money becomes worthless.

Maybe we could buy things like a pasta making rolling machine that I saw Jamie Oliver use to make fresh pasta from flour and eggs.

A wheat grinder to make bread (assuming we have an oven to cook it in and that we have got some wheat lol).

A potters wheel.

A drill that works mechanically.

Wind up torches.

My ideas are not too brilliant. Has anyone got any BETTER ideas ? All ideas are very welcome
Remember our grandparents got by with only basic tools,and beasts of burden were their machines and transport.If you live in a city it doesn't matter because you can't live off the land.In rural areas you can do alot better,the rat race for food is less intense.If the power and fuel are lost in big cities get ready for a "Mad Max" situation with roaming gangs of people,like in New Orleans.I've found more of a all for one mentality in rural areas and look out for #1 in the cities.The underworld and overworld are in battle every day for our poor souls and nothing will stop that from continuing.Learning how to make our own electricity is not that hard,even batteries can be homemade.The main thing is to escape the city first or move to the less populated areas sooner rather than later that gives you a head start.One thing is for sure,the mice (that's us)chasin' the cheese are multiplying and the cheese is disappearing very quickly.It has been estimated that each one of us has 200 slaves workin' for themselves if you were to total the energy we use for transport and food.That's a big # to overcome when you calculate how you would survive in a world without fuel.Hope for the best and prepare 4 the worst is the motto we should strive for.Don't panic though only clear heads can make the best of a bad situation.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:03 AM   #9
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Waterwise 1600 Water Distiller
http://www.juicersaustralia.com.au/w...istiller.shtml
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:48 PM   #10
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Not really a gadget - but very useful indeed.

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:19 PM   #11
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:48 PM   #12
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Default recharge normal cells

Get a car battery to recharge empty batteries of any size.

Takes a few seconds and works like a good'un.

All you need is a set of jump leads ,some normal elecrical wire and away you go.

Word of warning though,charge it a few seconds at a time,hold the cell in your hand dont point it at your face ,when it gets hot stop charging -your empty duracell is now fully charged.
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Nice one them! MacGuyver could do it all with the one at the top and the one on the bottom
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Old 17-01-2008, 02:26 PM   #14
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wind up torch and lantern sold at blacks -well handy
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Old 17-01-2008, 07:32 PM   #15
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wind up torch and lantern sold at blacks -well handy
Yeah I'm after a wind up lantern at the moment. Seen them in Millets but they are £25, too much.

I will check out Blacks very soon. I also want to make sure that my lantern has WHITE LED's because there are some with a tinge of blue and I really dont like it, it give me a bad feeling seeing blue light, it dont seem natural somehow.

Anyway, I have a few of those torches, you cant have too many of them.

We need to act quickly to get all these gadgets because the shit could hit the fan tomorrow and we are fucked.
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Old 17-01-2008, 08:36 PM   #16
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Ok, I've already posted this somewhere else, but I really like this survival book.

How To Stay Alive in the Woods, Bradford Angier,

The newer version of this book is 20 USD, but there are older copies which are a lot cheaper. It was published in the 50s originally. But I find it easy to understand. He also has another book that gives gardening tips for even 1 acre of land. (One Acre and Security: How to Live Off the Earth Without Ruining It , Bradford Angier) <---- I don't own that book, but I'm sure it's good too

I think it's more for North Americans as far as what you can eat in the wild, plant-wise. But it has tons of survival tips, how to make a lot of your own stuff, Like soap, how to make fire in several different ways. (I should just post that), How to tan hides, how to make a bow (For shooting arrows), just different things (small and seemingly insignificant) you can use, and for what (that you might not think of yourself,... macguyver style as thetonic said).

But to sum it up, I think everything you probably own could be used for some other more useful purpose that you are unaware of.

also I would recommend taking up archery. I learned that when I was a kid, and currently have a recurve bow that I'm a pretty good shot with, it's fun too.

Even things like dead grass, moss, dead leaves, feathers, these can be used for insulation. Just an idea (got it from the book).

Learn to knit, I have recently from my mom and it's soo much fun!

If the food supply stops in the city, leave the city. Go to the country (Learn to make your own shelter, I think this book tells you how to make a very small one, but there are instructions online on how to make a wigwam or a tipi). I know a lot of you are from the UK, do you guys still have deer in the wild? For some reason I'm under the impression that they were over-hunted there in the past. Anyway, where I live there are an abundance of them and other animals too.

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Yeah I'm after a wind up lantern at the moment. Seen them in Millets but they are £25, too much.

I will check out Blacks very soon. I also want to make sure that my lantern has WHITE LED's because there are some with a tinge of blue and I really dont like it, it give me a bad feeling seeing blue light, it dont seem natural somehow.

Anyway, I have a few of those torches, you cant have too many of them.

We need to act quickly to get all these gadgets because the shit could hit the fan tomorrow and we are fucked.
yeah these gadgets are going to be a handy man thats for sure.I remamber a post by danucrum (ithink)about diesel gennies that run on chip fat/cooking oil -now thats the way forward imo .

heat food and shelter and we've cracked it mate
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Fortunately I live in a very rural area, specially selected for its seclusion and safety during any chaos that were to hit the UK.

What is best about my house is that there's a Rayburn so I can basically burn wood to heat my whole house. There is a pump that pumps water around all the radiators so if I can get solar or a generator to power that then I'm laughing.

I am learning to bake bread using the rayburn so have an idea about stockpiling the ingredients to become the local baker in a post apocalyptic uk.

My woodshed contains several axes and a sharpening tool so will always have fuel to burn from the nearby and frequent areas of woodland. Several handsaws too.

There are animals around here, so my catapult and big stash of ball bearings will be ready for that and to use during any kind of assault on my property.

I got several wind-up torches so one for each of my family so lighting is covered.

When I have some cash I'm getting a generator and a stockpile of fuel for that to power my computer. Maybe look into getting some solar power as well.

Stockpiling Water, tinned foods, pasta, rice and other essential food items. My neighbour grows veg and this year we're starting an allotment together so hopefully the veggies will be available and there is an orchard nearby too

There really ought to be a good stash of weed and rolling papers and of course plenty of matches.

In the event of a lethal dust cloud I have all the gaffer tape and tarpaulin I am going to need to seal my house and a plan is in place to get the things outside in my shed in should the need arise, and I also need to think about protecting crops - any ideas on that anyone?

I feel good about it all really, some good prep and free thinking and you should be able to live comfortably.
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Fortunately I live in a very rural area, specially selected for its seclusion and safety during any chaos that were to hit the UK.

What is best about my house is that there's a Rayburn so I can basically burn wood to heat my whole house. There is a pump that pumps water around all the radiators so if I can get solar or a generator to power that then I'm laughing.

I am learning to bake bread using the rayburn so have an idea about stockpiling the ingredients to become the local baker in a post apocalyptic uk.

My woodshed contains several axes and a sharpening tool so will always have fuel to burn from the nearby and frequent areas of woodland. Several handsaws too.

There are animals around here, so my catapult and big stash of ball bearings will be ready for that and to use during any kind of assault on my property.

I got several wind-up torches so one for each of my family so lighting is covered.

When I have some cash I'm getting a generator and a stockpile of fuel for that to power my computer. Maybe look into getting some solar power as well.

Stockpiling Water, tinned foods, pasta, rice and other essential food items. My neighbour grows veg and this year we're starting an allotment together so hopefully the veggies will be available and there is an orchard nearby too

There really ought to be a good stash of weed and rolling papers and of course plenty of matches.

In the event of a lethal dust cloud I have all the gaffer tape and tarpaulin I am going to need to seal my house and a plan is in place to get the things outside in my shed in should the need arise, and I also need to think about protecting crops - any ideas on that anyone?

I feel good about it all really, some good prep and free thinking and you should be able to live comfortably.
I BET you DO feel GOOD about it, well done mate. I am trying to do something similar to you but unfortunately I wont be able to move to the country. Today bought loads of new stuff. I bought a couple of new saws, an axe, a crowbar, a blow torch and other stuff. I also want loads of other tools so that I can make whatever I need in the future. I already have alot of the essentials like the wind up torches etc but need one more i think. I want a big solar panel to charge up car batteries just so I can have some electric when necessary. When I buy anything now I make sure they are top quality and tough. I need some new walking boots which I am willing to spend up to about £100, a good pair of boots is essential. Things like a good coat should not be overlooked too IMO, I have quite a few now. I have stocked up in food but need lots more. I keep talking about learning how to cook bread but need to get around to that. I am doing tons of preparation for what might be coming in the future and I too feel pretty good about it But there is still loads to do, I have made a list.
Another thing I'm doing is teaching myself some basics of how dynamos work and stuff like that, to do with renewable energy (or whatever it's called) so that I can be useful in a long term survival situation.
Also I'm gonna stock up in essential oils (like lavender) for medical reasons etc.
There is so much to do and so little time (maybe), it's a mad rush for me at the moment.
Luckily, my other half is with me all the way in this. Everytime I buy something, like the axe for exmple, I think "she must think I'm mad" but we discuss it and she agrees with me but we have a laugh and joke about it so that's good
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The other important thing we've forgotten is bicycles and a stash of spare tyres and inner tubes. Although I plan to return to using horses, a push-bike will be a good mode of transport and you don't have to feed it.

There wont be many tyres made in a post-apocalyptic uk...

Good stuff, good idea with the electricals, probably my weakest area, but I am planning on making a simple solar charger for my Nintendo DS so we can at least play Mario Kart when we're feeling pissed off...
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