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Old 01-08-2015, 01:07 PM   #21
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Wait until it dawns on the UK public that these people moved freely all over Europe and the USA .
I recall reading somewhere (think it was in the MSM) that Bin Laden's relatives were in Texas on 9/11 and were permitted to fly back to Saudi without let or hindrance.
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:26 PM   #22
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"Two dozen members of Osama bin Laden's family were urgently evacuated from the United States in the first days following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, according to the Saudi ambassador to Washington..."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bin-laden-family-evacuated/
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:28 PM   #23
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I recall reading somewhere (think it was in the MSM) that Bin Laden's relatives were in Texas on 9/11 and were permitted to fly back to Saudi without let or hindrance.
All air space was closed down ,but their plane was allowed out of US ....

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Members of Osama bin Laden's family were allowed to fly out of the US shortly after the September 11 terror attacks, a senior official has said.

Even though American airspace had been shut down, the Bush administration allowed a jet to fly around the US picking up family members from 10 cities, including Los Angeles, Washington DC, Boston and Houston.

Some 140 high ranking Saudi officials were also on the plane.

The revelations come from former White House counter-terrorism chief Richard Clarke.

He said the Bush administration sanctioned the repatriation of the family in the immediate aftermath of the attacks.

'Repatriation approved'
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:32 PM   #24
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Another crash .....

Plane crashes at CarFest in Cheshire

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-33748256
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:36 PM   #25
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"Two dozen members of Osama bin Laden's family were urgently evacuated from the United States in the first days following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, according to the Saudi ambassador to Washington..."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bin-laden-family-evacuated/
Makes sense, there's a chance they could have come to harm had they stayed
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Old 01-08-2015, 03:28 PM   #26
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Cool Blackbushe featured in BBC show this week....

OH, is this a coincidence...or what...

the last episode of 'don't tell the bride', which was broadcast this week on the bbc, Blackbushe airport was featured...................Considering the couple were from S E London and they could hae used, say Biggin Hill....they chose to use an airport in...Hampshire???



This is no surprise whatsoever with regards to these plane crashes, and what makes it 'good timing', is you will see lots more plane related stuff in the media..all leading up to the continuing re-traumatisation of the masses so they don't forget events in September. Lenon Honor has done some great work on exposing this cyclical timeline. You may want to check out his youtube videos '911 Fear Based Mind Control Programming', he has done extensive work on exposing all of this!

Once September is out of the way, it quietens down, then it will start up again leading up to May (when bin laden was supposedly killed...) so it is a constant reminder, all year round!
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Old 01-08-2015, 03:33 PM   #27
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Past 24 hours.....

Plane crash at CARfest & BLACK Smoke


Bin Ladens Family Plane crashes into CARS & BLACK Smoke....at BLACKbushe


Calais...Trains & Cars & BLACK Smoke


All a coincidence of course
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Old 01-08-2015, 03:57 PM   #28
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I'm not sure I understand your post Cosmo. What other colour would the smoke be?
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:41 AM   #29
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Bin Laden plane crash: jet went down in near perfect conditions

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Questions have been raised over the cause of Friday’s plane crash in which three members of the Bin Laden family were killed, given the aircraft had used the runway, which is fitted with hi-tech safety features, regularly in recent months.

The Saudi-registered Embraer Phenom 300 jet, which had departed from Milan’s Malpensa airport, was attempting to land at Blackbushe airport on the Hampshire/Surrey border when it crashed on to dozens of vehicles parked at a car auction site close to the runway.

The £7m state-of-the-art plane, equipped with fly-by-wire electronic system that is supposed to make it easy to control, was a regular visitor to the airport, according to pilots who use Blackbushe. It was attempting a landing in near perfect conditions on a runway that was fitted with precision approach pathway indicators (Papis).

The four indicators, which can be seen from more than half a mile away, all flash white if the pilot is coming in too high and red if too low. “It doesn’t make sense to me as an ordinary pilot why something that advanced and easy to fly would bury itself in the auction ground at the end of such a long runway,” said Simon Moores, a flight instructor and pilot who has flown from Blackbushe many times.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:43 AM   #30
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plane had been hijacked by fly remote control and crashed deliberately. pilot had no chance. but then with the official version they will come up with another "pilot suicide" theory.

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Flight data captured by AvGen Limited showed that as the aircraft approached the airfield it was flying at 1,250 feet, but as it turned around the circuit before landing, it increased altitude to 1,750 feet - at a critical time in the flight when it should have been losing height. 

As the pilot, Mazen Al Doaja, steered the aircraft around towards the runway, he pushed the jet into a steep dive of 3,000 feet per minute. (did he? why should he? suicude or remotely controlled?)

Aviation experts are baffled as to why an experienced pilot would have continued the approach when the aircraft was not properly lined up on the runway on a stable approach.

The data, which was captured using specialist flight monitoring software called ADS-B, showed that the aircraft was flying in an unusual pattern as it prepared to land. As the aircraft passed the threshold of the runway, it was at 75 feet, which was normal, but it was still flying at 149kts - some 30kts higher than usual - as it prepared to touch down. Flight instructor and pilot Simon Moores, who has flown into Blackbushe many times, told The Observer : 'It doesn’t make sense to me as an ordinary pilot why something that advanced and easy to fly would bury itself in the auction ground.' 
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:02 AM   #31
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Killed in plane crash? It couldn't possibly involve anything else, could it? This is just reinforcing the Bin Laden/plane association in the masses' subconscious.
This.

Just a quick reminder, with lots of love from TPTB
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:27 AM   #32
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We were travelling on m3 and saw the smoke from this,we wondered what it was until we saw it on the news.Seems suspicious to me that the plane carrying the bin laden family crashed??
Ok,this is my conspiracy mind raging(but I love a good conspiracy )
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:20 AM   #33
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plane had been hijacked by fly remote control and crashed deliberately. pilot had no chance. but then with the official version they will come up with another "pilot suicide" theory.

source Daily Mail:

Flight data captured by AvGen Limited showed that as the aircraft approached the airfield it was flying at 1,250 feet, but as it turned around the circuit before landing, it increased altitude to 1,750 feet - at a critical time in the flight when it should have been losing height. 

As the pilot, Mazen Al Doaja, steered the aircraft around towards the runway, he pushed the jet into a steep dive of 3,000 feet per minute. (did he? why should he? suicude or remotely controlled?)

Aviation experts are baffled as to why an experienced pilot would have continued the approach when the aircraft was not properly lined up on the runway on a stable approach.

The data, which was captured using specialist flight monitoring software called ADS-B, showed that the aircraft was flying in an unusual pattern as it prepared to land. As the aircraft passed the threshold of the runway, it was at 75 feet, which was normal, but it was still flying at 149kts - some 30kts higher than usual - as it prepared to touch down. Flight instructor and pilot Simon Moores, who has flown into Blackbushe many times, told The Observer : 'It doesn’t make sense to me as an ordinary pilot why something that advanced and easy to fly would bury itself in the auction ground.' 
Do you have any flying experience? Blackbushe is notorious for it's tight landing conditions.

I'm not sure who that 'Simon Moores' guy is either, but a Phenom 300 isn't exactly 'easy to fly'.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:31 AM   #34
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Another crash .....

Plane crashes at CarFest in Cheshire

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-33748256
An investment banker from the city?
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:34 AM   #35
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Do you have any flying experience? Blackbushe is notorious for it's tight landing conditions.

I'm not sure who that 'Simon Moores' guy is either, but a Phenom 300 isn't exactly 'easy to fly'.
is there any way that we can find out if a Phenom 300 is a regular visiter to this airport, or if it would 'typically' land somewhere else?

i wonder how many times the Bin Laden familly have used this airport previously?

i think that the second plane crash, at the carfest wuld more than likely be a staged event to create missdirection - Chris Evans is a big name and more likely that the carfest crash will take prominance over this news because of that.
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http://m.ft.com/cms/s/0/db3c8138-76d...44feabdc0.html

two paragraphs that might give support for a remote controlled crash:

Embraer’s development of an already very clever Garmin 1000 system means that more functions are performed automatically. 

Bonus: A brake-by-wire system with anti-lock capability.
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is there any way that we can find out if a Phenom 300 is a regular visiter to this airport, or if it would 'typically' land somewhere else?

i wonder how many times the Bin Laden familly have used this airport previously?
You may be able to tell from flightradar24, flightaware or planefinder. You're looking for the tail number HZ-IBN. They normally remove records to lost planes a day or so after the crash though unforutnately so we may be a little late now.

Edit: I've just had a look and flightradar24 and flightaware have removed previous flights, but planefinder still has them listed


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two paragraphs that might give support for a remote controlled crash:

Embraer’s development of an already very clever Garmin 1000 system means that more functions are performed automatically. 

Bonus: A brake-by-wire system with anti-lock capability.
Honestly, if this is dodgy (which going by everything I've seen/know I really don't think it is), then there are much, much easier ways than remote control.

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Old 02-08-2015, 05:48 PM   #38
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Could a homing signal have been planted in one of the cars in the auction car park? Some sort of device that detected when that plane was in the air, hacked into its computer system and guided it into a crash landing, maybe?

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Past 24 hours.....

Plane crash at CARfest & BLACK Smoke


Bin Ladens Family Plane crashes into CARS & BLACK Smoke....at BLACKbushe


Calais...Trains & Cars & BLACK Smoke


All a coincidence of course
The bottom pic looks a bit like staging, there are two distinct columns of black smoke, and you can see a pile of tires burning on the right, they would definitely give off black smoke -- why are they burning tires there?
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It was the plot in one of the die-hard moovies to mess with the landing doobries
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