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Old 09-07-2015, 07:42 AM   #21
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AJ was chatting with financial experts about the NYSE.... All were agreed that it was normal and expected to switch it off when China went into free fall to prevent it from following, since many US companies are heavily invested in China.
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:58 AM   #22
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If the scenario I've outlined is correct and the Eurozone collapses, this, with some provocateur help, could justify Martial Law in Europe - ie TOTAL LOCKDOWN coinciding with the same in USA.

and TOTAL LOCKDOWN cd mean internment camps - if they intend to liquidate the Red & Blue lists, this is when they'll do it.

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Old 09-07-2015, 09:26 AM   #23
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Checking the graph I see this is blown out of all proportion, sure they lost 30% in the past month, but this was only a correction, back to where it was 4 months ago!

So this is no big deal. it's a very volatile market, still nearly double what it was a year ago, which is a ridiculous gain, could drop more without sounding the alarm bells.

Having said that I still think the bet is 50 : 50 things will kick off this year.

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Old 09-07-2015, 11:35 AM   #24
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Checking the graph I see this is blown out of all proportion, sure they lost 30% in the past month, but this was only a correction, back to where it was 4 months ago!

So this is no big deal. it's a very volatile market, still nearly double what it was a year ago, which is a ridiculous gain, could drop more without sounding the alarm bells.

Having said that I still think the bet is 50 : 50 things will kick off this year.
This thread is stupid.

The news here is saying nothing. There is not a crash but a short term correction at most.

There is a big news about the GDP growth forcast in the second part of 2015 getting cut from +8.5% to +7%. This causes the market sell off because the stock price is way to high.

I watched a lot of economic news, and there is no mentiong about the stock price being affect by Greek debt. Why would it??? Chinese economy is huge. It has surpass the US last year. Greece debt is way too puny to be consequential.

Please use your common sense.

Also, we are talking about 7% GDP gain, and the financial analysts here are disappointed by the 7% gain. When is the last time US had a 7% gain???

In general, Chinese stock price is still too high. I stay away from stocks. I want to see it cut in half before I would call it reasonable.

BTW, Chinese troops will not be anywhere near US soil. This is propaganda and fear mongering.

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i shd add that if my scenario is correct then they could also collapse the US economy too

that would just add to the general mayhem.
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Old 09-07-2015, 01:52 PM   #26
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i shd add that if my scenario is correct then they could also collapse the US economy too

that would just add to the general mayhem.
Thankfully, your scenario is incorrect
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Old 09-07-2015, 04:23 PM   #27
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IMO TPTB shot down MH17 because the livery is the same as the Russian Presidential Jet and Putin was in Ukrainian airspace at the same time, returning from Brazil

They downed MH17 thinking it was Putin.
No the shooting down of MH17 BOTH was a warning to Putin and a way of convincing the reluctant European politicians on the need for more stringent sanctions.

Putins jet was a full half hour behind and deliberatly skirted around the war zone, besides I dont think TPTB would have dared to assasinate Putin in this manner, as it would have prob set off a nuclear war.
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Old 09-07-2015, 04:58 PM   #28
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AJ was chatting with financial experts about the NYSE.... All were agreed that it was normal and expected to switch it off when China went into free fall to prevent it from following, since many US companies are heavily invested in China.
Yep, shows you there is nothing to do with a free market.

If it was free, there would of been no closure, and they would of let the market go where it wanted, like china getting there revenge, lol.

New york, and london can do what ever they want with other economies, but they have it set up so no one can do anything to theres. How is a protected stock market, a free market system? Its not.

While new york and london have there safeguards, they know that others do not, so that stock market can be manipulated by them and crashed, but the other side cannot do it to them. Sounds like a free market, not.

The only reason it was closed as they knew china would be angry, and out to do similar things in new york. Thats not a free market, thats a controlled stock market, and is essentially price fixing.

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This thread is stupid.

The news here is saying nothing. There is not a crash but a short term correction at most.
What a load of bull.

We live in a world of absolute corrupt people. The reason why nyse and london has protections, is they know that they do destroying of economies, and do not want it happening to them in return.

What do you think the nyse and london has protections for?
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I just had a customer today with multiple items, and I asked this guy to make conversation with him "are you stocking your boat??".

He goes no "we are going to be attacked by China." He was really convinced. "They are going to blame us for whats happening b/c its our fault, and ask for their money back." He also said, America owes them trillions (not billions) of dollars.

I was like "well, once you get your organic seeds your all set". He goes "already have them." lol

Then he said "God bless" at the end. Nice guy.
I get it....but....it's LAUGHABLE to conclude that China will or even can wage an attack and war with the US. They would be COMPLETELY and UTTERLY ineffective.

Now, they could bully around their neighbors and do some damage in those local areas, but attacking America...NOT A CHANCE!
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Yep, shows you there is nothing to do with a free market.

What a load of bull.

We live in a world of absolute corrupt people. The reason why nyse and london has protections, is they know that they do destroying of economies, and do not want it happening to them in return.

What do you think the nyse and london has protections for?
You are retarded.

If China is picked by the NWO to invade the US, they picked the wrong people.

If you don't understand the culture, try studying history.

China is under constant attack throughout history, and they succombed to foreign power many times. Because China does not have very many white people, they do not have warring and conquering mentality.

Chinese's mindset has always been, they will propsper when they work hard, and they just want to keep whatever they have.

In other words, they are xenophobic isolationists.
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I get it....but....it's LAUGHABLE to conclude that China will or even can wage an attack and war with the US. They would be COMPLETELY and UTTERLY ineffective. !
The most likely scenario is that they will be invited into the US as UN 'peace keepers' to restore order after a breakdown.

The controllers in US are on a mission to destroy America, people have to be disarmed and subjugated for them to bring in their NWO.
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I get it....but....it's LAUGHABLE to conclude that China will or even can wage an attack and war with the US. They would be COMPLETELY and UTTERLY ineffective.

Now, they could bully around their neighbors and do some damage in those local areas, but attacking America...NOT A CHANCE!
Its been knowledge for a long time now that China surpassed the USA in military power and preparation. You walk into China there are outpost everywhere and trained military peoples.

Here in America, your walking into a theme park with no protection. And clearly, no borders. Do you really think the "police" are enough to protect the border from illegals? They are going to need more then just police. That's just a worse case scenario. You have a lot of people in America that get freaked out if they got punched in the face (and deserved it), let alone all of this. (if it does go down this way) No matter what happens, getting rid of the elites is no small task.

Plus, its getting out there America isn't spreading democracy, but tyranny. So, who is backed by China?? Who are they friends with? The middle east? Russia? All other "brown" people? lol Everyone else that's been beaten up by the elite controlled America?

Reality sinks in, America is going to split up into at least TWO factions in the future (probably more). And which side is China going to be friends with, b/c they are no longer friends with the Washington controlled States???
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The most likely scenario is that they will be invited into the US as UN 'peace keepers' to restore order after a breakdown.

The controllers in US are on a mission to destroy America, people have to be disarmed and subjugated for them to bring in their NWO.
"Peacekeepers".......

....I didn't think China would go to that level. We really don't know whos side they are on do to their bloody history. Are they for the elites or for humanity?

I am thinking in the long run, humanity, but we shall see.

Nonetheless, the biggest issue WE DO HAVE is the elites, and not China.
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If the scenario I've outlined is correct and the Eurozone collapses, this, with some provocateur help, could justify Martial Law in Europe - ie TOTAL LOCKDOWN coinciding with the same in USA.

and TOTAL LOCKDOWN cd mean internment camps - if they intend to liquidate the Red & Blue lists, this is when they'll do it.

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If you believe they want to go for the Big One this year then the scenario I've outlined fits perfectly.

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The elites would not be pulling the strings on China, and putting pressure on them. Unless.......unless.......the SHTF soon.

It was some of us late last year, and early this year (on this forum) that were warning about September, and the fall in general.

This may be massive climate change and Earth Changes. Its going to happen soon, we are over do.

Now what they plan is to get their ball rolling on the NWO, so by the time the Earth changes come and kill lots of people, they will kill most of whos left, and throw everyone else into a chipped "Equilibrium" style society. This is also the agenda of the malicious ETs, the greys and reptilians. Now, if people are going to fall for it like they have 3 or 4 other times in the long lost past, who knows.
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i shd add that if my scenario is correct then they could also collapse the US economy too

that would just add to the general mayhem.
The U.S. was going to crash regardless... Their economic dominance is over
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if something goes up 100% one year and then falls 50% the next year then you are back to where you started so remember that when talking about profits and loss accounts.

China watched as its stock went up 150% over two years and now it's dropped 30% so they are still better off than they were but the public are pissed because they were told to take out loans to go gambling with by the government.

Bigger fools them i say
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The elites would not be pulling the strings on China, and putting pressure on them. Unless.......unless.......the SHTF soon.

It was some of us late last year, and early this year (on this forum) that were warning about September, and the fall in general.

This may be massive climate change and Earth Changes. Its going to happen soon, we are over do.

Now what they plan is to get their ball rolling on the NWO, so by the time the Earth changes come and kill lots of people, they will kill most of whos left, and throw everyone else into a chipped "Equilibrium" style society. This is also the agenda of the malicious ETs, the greys and reptilians. Now, if people are going to fall for it like they have 3 or 4 other times in the long lost past, who knows.
I wouldn't be preparing for a end game scenario.. Times will be tough yes... But there is a LONG way for them to go
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I wouldn't be preparing for a end game scenario.. Times will be tough yes... But there is a LONG way for them to go
I was merely explaining why the elites are doing all of this, b/c their "owners" tell them too. They have an "A, B, C, D" plan given to them straight from the greys probably, lol.

What will happen will be GOOD for humanity.

That's all that can be said, lol.

Id still personally have a BoB, organic seeds stashed in a small enough spot to fit in there, and some other basic stuff. But really -- you have to be spiritually prepared. B/c what is OLD, is about to DIE!!! Like in the bible Jesus was like ".....you are making everything new". But this time around, not just for individuals who spiritual shift, but for all of Earth. We shall see!!
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I was merely explaining why the elites are doing all of this, b/c their "owners" tell them too. They have an "A, B, C, D" plan given to them straight from the greys probably, lol.

What will happen will be GOOD for humanity.

That's all that can be said, lol.

Id still personally have a BoB, organic seeds stashed in a small enough spot to fit in there, and some other basic stuff. But really -- you have to be spiritually prepared. B/c what is OLD, is about to DIE!!! Like in the bible Jesus was like ".....you are making everything new". But this time around, not just for those who spiritual shift, but for all of Earth.
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