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Old 17-07-2013, 02:55 AM   #581
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Old 17-07-2013, 07:07 AM   #582
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It seems to me that the Red Bus is some sort of call sign

An empty Red Bus going through Vauxhall through rush hour ???? The 7/7 Red Bus had been 'worked' on the weekend before for 36 hours by so called 'engineers' whom nobody at the dept had ever seen nor were allowed to see, nor ever saw again..
I hadn't realised at the time - what an amazing coincidence that the replacement bus for the 7/7 bus (not generally how huge bus fleets work...) was burnt out in Walthamstow in 2012:
http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/new...ute_bus_arson/

There is confusion about whether the bus can be repaired. Stagecoach said it was hopeful it could, but a Met spokesman said the damage was too extensive for it to be repaired.
......strange comment from the police there...why would they have a comment on a purely commercial decision??

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These unusual driving duties must be the talk of the bus depot - Stockwell in this case, but Plumstead Stagecoach garage which supplied two 53 route Scanias to the Woolwich hoax.
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10:07 AM on the day of the incident, but must have been taken at some previous time, since the crane arm is intact.
Jason Hawkes ‏@jasonhawkesphot
Terrible news about the 109 crash this morning. That crane is very high ( see here ) and flying in fog so dangerous pic.twitter.com/mbiYl1m8
2:07 AM - 16 Jan 13


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Old 12-02-2014, 11:10 PM   #585
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This is what a real helicopter crash looks like when it clips an object in mid air -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5aMT9MBfZI#t=23
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The Vauxhall crash was just on the edge of a place called Stockwell. The Scottish crash was also on a street called Stockwell Street - now that's a coincidence for you!
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Old 27-11-2014, 10:48 AM   #587
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7/7 was faked. completely. victims and everything. the terrorist/training exercise rabbit hole is just more conspiracy junk/fodder thrown into the narrative of all these type faked/staged/hoaxed operations.

LONDON 7/7: an introductory guide.
7/7.
LONDON 7/7 FAKE TERROR.

you would be surprised with how much fakery goes on. i certainly was, before i wasn't anymore.

this thread is based on them doing the same old shit they always do.
someone at CF was onto this helicopter accident very quickly
The pictures remind me of the 9/11 fakery of the jet engine that was so delicately placed on a sidewalk in New York and the VicSim photos. If a helicopter crashes I doubt it will look like this.
Jan 16 2013
very perceptive.

icarusinbound follwed it up with more feel for a suspicious media story
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic...485&start=1650
then it vanished from the radar.

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Old 28-11-2014, 02:45 AM   #588
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Noel Edmonds pays tribute to pilot Pete Barnes killed in London helicopter crash
January 17, 2013 | by SWNS Reporter | 0 Comments

TV star Noel Edmonds today paid tribute to pilot Peter Barnes who died when his helicopter crashed into a crane in London.

Noel, 64, told SWNS: “I have flown with ‘Barnsy’ many times over many years both in the UK and across the continent.

“I have never experienced a more conscientious, skilled and professional pilot ever.

“Yes, like so many of us drawn to these versatile aircraft he was a real character.

“We had wonderful times enjoying the freedom of flight but Pete was always mindful of safety and responsibility to others.”

The Deal Or No Deal presenter added: “”My heart goes out to his family and all of those affected by this tragic accident.

“And when the investigations are complete I am sure it will be found to have been just that – a tragic accident.

“We should all be proud of the safety of flight in the UK and particularly in the crowded skies over London.

“Please never forget that thanks to pilots like Pete Barnes the helicopter is still the only method of transport devised by man that has saved more lives than it has taken.

"Thanks for the happy times Pete and the lives you saved when flying the Air Ambulance."

http://swns.com/news/london-helicopt...-barnes-30198/

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-110857349.html
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Mum+sc......-a060567820
https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/mike-smith-w...093707780.html
http://thecolemanexperience.wordpres...dj-mike-smith/

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Old 13-12-2014, 07:02 PM   #589
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Noel Edmonds pays tribute to pilot Pete Barnes killed in London helicopter crash
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TV star Noel Edmonds today paid tribute to pilot Peter Barnes who died when his helicopter crashed into a crane in London.

Noel, 64, told SWNS: “I have flown with ‘Barnsy’ many times over many years both in the UK and across the continent.

“I have never experienced a more conscientious, skilled and professional pilot ever.

“Yes, like so many of us drawn to these versatile aircraft he was a real character.

“We had wonderful times enjoying the freedom of flight but Pete was always mindful of safety and responsibility to others.”

The Deal Or No Deal presenter added: “”My heart goes out to his family and all of those affected by this tragic accident.

“And when the investigations are complete I am sure it will be found to have been just that – a tragic accident.

“We should all be proud of the safety of flight in the UK and particularly in the crowded skies over London.

“Please never forget that thanks to pilots like Pete Barnes the helicopter is still the only method of transport devised by man that has saved more lives than it has taken.

"Thanks for the happy times Pete and the lives you saved when flying the Air Ambulance."

http://swns.com/news/london-helicopt...-barnes-30198/

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-110857349.html
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Mum+sc......-a060567820
https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/mike-smith-w...093707780.html
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Indeed, wes. Perceptive post.

Hey, that fence is almost undamaged from 1988

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/...ta__g_smif.cfm
CRASHED INTO TREES BY LANDING SITE. BOTH OCCUPANTS SERIOUSLY INJURED. DetailsLDG SITE WAS 48X19 METRE TREE BOUNDED PADDOCK.A/C BROUGHT TO VIRTUAL HOVER 20-30FT ABOVE TALLEST TREE,WELL INTO & 100FT ABOVE,LDG SITE.PILOT NOT HAPPY WITH APPR SO GO-AROUND INITIATED.IN RIGHT BANK PILOT WAS UNAWARE OF ENGINE RESPONSE & ROTOR RPM DECAYED BELOW 50% WITH RELATED WARNING.THE A/C THEN CRASHED THROUGH TREES & WAS DESTROYED BY GROUND IMPACT.DESPITE EXTENSIVE FUEL SPILLAGE THERE WAS NO FIRE.BOTH OCCUPANTS WERE SERIOUSLY INJURED.AN EXAMINATION OF THE WRECKAGE REVEALED NO ABNORMALITY WITHIN ENGINE NOR ANY FAILURE OR UNSERVICEABILITY THAT COULD HAVE RESULTED IN A LOSS OF ROTOR SPEED. CAA CLOSURE:NO FURTHER CAA ACTION WARRANTED.

the briefest of investigations...
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...IF%2001-89.pdf
Despite extensive fuel spillage and live electrical circuits there was no fire

fuel spillage?


http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...el-Edmonds.jpg

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Well, it's inquest time, and how normal for further little details to emerge.

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A post-mortem examination carried out by Dr Peter Jerreat concluded he died from multiple injuries “as a result of the impact with the ground.”
Dr Jerreat, you will remember, was trusted with the autopsies into the unbelievably strange death of Peaches Geldof, [q.v.] and the suspicious head on train crash in 1994 at Cowden for which very little in the way of imagery from this early Saturday morning incident has been published to the web.



Isn't it amazing how photography has come on in leaps and bounds since 1994.


You can't get a better back-up story than one from the Queen's cousin, can you...
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Mr Barnes also exchanged texts during the flight with the Marquess of Milford Haven - a cousin of the Queen - who had been due to fly his own helicopter from his home in Liphook, Hampshire, to the same shooting event.

The inquest heard Lord Milford Haven asked about the weather conditions in Battersea as he was due to pick up Hong Kong businessman Sir David Tang on their way to the shoot.
After passing central London on his way to Elstree, Mr Barnes sent a message which stated: "Can't see Batts [Battersea]."
When Lord Milford Haven replied to ask if he had been able to land at Elstree, Mr Barnes told him: "No hole [in the fog] hdg [heading] back to red [Redhill].
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...wasnt-10495796



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[Rebecca Dixon] told the inquest that her partner had a 'good relationship' with Mr Caring because he included the pilot in leisure activities following flights.
'He was always polite, he was pleasant,' she said. 'It was fun because quite often once the flight was over he would shoot with them and have dinner with them.
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As the inquest turns towards whether texting mid flight [allegedly] is good or bad,
noted back in September 2014 when the AAIB report came out
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-9732772.html
I couldn't help but stare at this quote back from Rebecca on 18 January 2013 in the Standard exclusive -
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8454935.html
She added: “He was always smiling and making other people feel happy, valued and important.

“He had his own special language of catch phrases like ‘best of British’, ‘top banana’, ‘old bean’ and ‘top bloke’. ***

When asked how their children were coping, she said: “They are remarkable, they are lovely.”
I would have thought they would be devastated.


*** https://www.facebook.com/wrcsdixon/p...78795442203734

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Oh, here come the anonymous witnesses. Well, one of them - Witness C not to be confused with Witness B who appeared in the improbable shooting of Mark Duggan.

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...lared-10533910
2 DEC 2015
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On the second week of the inquest, the Southwark Coroner's Court heard from an air traffic controller known only as "Witness C" for legal reasons.
I always love it when they cite "legal reasons" for not naming someone.
The only reason I can think of is that "witness C" is a non ATC reading a script.

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It took staff at Battersea longer than usual to answer the phone.
Really.
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surr...icted-10526319
Decemeber 1 2015
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Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) inspector Geraint Herbert told Southwark Coroner's Court on Monday it was a pilot's responsibility to avoid obstacles.
ah, we have a named servant
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Coroner Dr Andrew Harris asked Mr Herbert: "Is there any reason why a NOTAM can't give a precise reference?"

He replied: "I don't have an answer to that."
At least we have another name, London helicopter duty controller Andrew Carn
who
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told the court there was a conversation between the Thames and Battersea controllers just before 8am on the morning of the crash, requesting the diversion.

He said while diversions due to weather were rare, the conditions at Battersea were suitable for that action and authorities there were clear to accept Mr Barnes's aircraft.

who seems to have moved on.
22 years in the RAF.
Air Traffic Controller
London Heliport
June 2007 – June 2015 (8 years 1 month)
Air Traffic Controller
Booker Aviation [Reading]
June 2015 – Present (7 months)
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Old 10-12-2015, 03:02 PM   #593
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I hadn't realised at the time - what an amazing coincidence that the replacement bus for the 7/7 bus (not generally how huge bus fleets work...) was burnt out in Walthamstow in 2012:

http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/new...ute_bus_arson/



There is confusion about whether the bus can be repaired. Stagecoach said it was hopeful it could, but a Met spokesman said the damage was too extensive for it to be repaired.

......strange comment from the police there...why would they have a comment on a purely commercial decision??

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Just to let you all know that the arson on the "Spirit of London" ( tribute to London 777 ) bus at Walthamstow on 19 October 2012 ( unveiled by Ken Livingstone on 3 October 2005 ) ...


imo, was probably meant to happen ...


The "Spirit of London" arson on 19 October 2012 from it's unveiling and London 777, unsurprisingly, both carry the tell-tale 3119 motifs ...






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There is some inside information which doesn't seem to fit in with the narrative. Inconvenient would be the word.
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/547...t-verdict.html

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Just started reading the AAIB report, and one thing that I can categorically say did not happen, was that the client did not call the Heliport at 0750 to ask if we were open. I was manning the telephones that morning from 0700. I was, at the time the senior person at the heliport and therefore the Aerodrome Authority. I was called by the DATCO, to ask if we could accept the flight, as we were still completing our opening checks. Given my authority and that we were awaiting final checks on fuel, I was satisfied that H2 fire cover was available, and therefore was happy to accept the flight.. That call from the client at 0750 simply did not happen!


The only person interviewed at the heliport as far as I understand, was the duty datco on the morning in question. This is only my third ever post and all three including this one was on the same subject.I posted this descrepency back in january 2013 when it was first posted that the client had stated that he had called Battersea to see if we were open. My answer then and my answer now is the same, no call was ever received.


15 December 2015
I have said this before on here and I will say it again untill the cows come home, Battersea was not open.
I recieved a call from the DATCO, Requesting if we would open and accept a diversion from SVFR/Thames Radar, To which I gave autherisation.
It was upon this autherisation that the DATCO tried to contact the Pilot, alas with no response!
What would be the point of reporting it to the AAIB, they write the script. They would ignore it, it doesn't fit in with the script.

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Just for the record, I was on the reception desk at Battersea of the morning of the accident, At no time do I recall receiving a telephone call from the client asking if we were open. I did however take a call from Thames Radar requesting to be put through to ATC
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/505...london-23.html
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We can easily see the purpose of this event* - the photos do look shopped. Is there any imagery of a burnt out bus?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20014969
*Stagecoach said the attack was "an insult to the memory" of the 13 people killed in Tavistock Square in 2005.
http://www.stagecoach.com/media/news...-relaunch.aspx
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Two 14 year old girls have since been convicted of arson.
which conveniently means they can't be named, if indeed they existed.

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Despite the damage, Stagecoach took the decision to repair the bus rather than replace it, due to the symbolic importance of the vehicle.

The re-launch, which took place at the London Bus Museum, Weybridge on Sunday (21 April), was attended by Stagecoach London Managing Director, Mark Threapleton, Transport for London Managing Director of Surface Transport, Leon Daniels and George Psaradakis, the driver of the original bus on July 7th 2005.

Mark Threapleton said, “The upper deck of the bus was almost completely burnt so it has taken a lot of work to get it back into service. However, there was never any question of us retiring the bus - we have always been committed to refurbishing it to ensure it remains a fitting tribute to the 13 people who lost their lives when the original bus was destroyed in 2005.”

Leon Daniels said, “It’s good news for London that this bus will be back on the road after refurbishment. The decision to introduce a vehicle to replace the one destroyed in 2005 was an important one which meant a lot to the victims’ families and to the people of London. We are very pleased that it will be back in service carrying passengers again soon.”

George Psaradakis said, “I would like to thank Mark Threapleton very much for giving me the opportunity to take part in the re-launching of the Spirit of London. When I was told what had happened to the Spirit of London I was truly sad but, looking at the vehicle after its restoration, all the sadness I felt then has now been offset with happiness. My congratulations go to Stagecoach for the restoration of the bus, I am very proud to be working for them.”
I can't find any photos of the burnt out bus. Perhaps it wasn't burnt out.
This one doesn't look very convincing either

source - http://www.focustransport.org/2012/1...spirit-of.html
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Excellent work felixfelix


But, as for "George Psaradakis", and his "7 mile walk across London on 777", well ...



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Since the company Helivision closed, there is no further online trace of Rebecca Dixon.

HELIVISION LTD - Filing history (free information from Companies House)
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...history?page=2

Miss Rebecca Annette Dixon 15 Dianthus Place, Winkfield Row RG42

dob 29 6 1974 appointed secretary 2 11 2004
This address given for both directors in 2005.
house sold Sept 2011 £480,000

Original address of Pete - Flat 1 116 Queens Gate SW7



September 2006 registered office changed to Wokefield Farm, Mortimer RG7
May 2007 new address for both directors as above.

Company Dissolved 21 7 2015


Former director
Lloyd Carrington [born Lloyd Joseph Battey in Essex]
now running The Hardwood Shower Tray Company
http://thehardwoodshowertraycompany.com/contact/

no mention of being a pilot at Helihub
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...75086/officers
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...49657/officers
HELIHUB LIMITED - Filing history (free information from Companies House)

Pete's brother Chris gave the eulogy at the service in February 2013
[quoted earlier in thread]

http://www.fraserbrown.com/meet-the-team/chris-barnes
I notice he was quoted in the MSM the day after the Vauxhall event
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Chris Barnes, 55, from Nottingham, paid tribute to his "good guy" brother, adding: "It's a matter of instinct, it's what pilots do.
"He had 25 years and 10,500 hours experience. He was very good at what he did."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21055540
January 17 2013

Nothing in the facebook pages of Chris' wife or his daughters connecting them with Rebecca Dixon or their nephew/niece/sister/daughter in law.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...078.1423568538

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