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Old 04-04-2014, 08:55 PM   #101
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This location is on the St Michael Leyline (poss near Gillingham Hall + Church) and it is sacred at this time of year as it starts to 'fire up' = mass negative energy on the location..tragic nonetheless as is every death on the roads which get no mainstream media attention..

Confirmed...

One of the victims is understood to be Lord Ballyedmond, who owns Gillingham Hall. (That is a gaff and a half)

where would rendlesham forest be on that map??
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:40 AM   #102
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http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/...39__g_lbal.cfm
April 3 2014
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...4%20G-LBAL.pdf

Here comes the officially worked out official narrative. Get it out there early....
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AAIB Special Bulletin: S3/2014
G-LBAL
EW/C2014/03/02

History of the flight

The helicopter was scheduled to depart Gillingham Hall for Coventry Airport at 1830 hrs but the passengers were not ready to depart until around 1920 hrs. By this time, night had fallen and dense fog had developed; witnesses described visibility in the order of tens of metres.
The co-pilot escorted the passengers to the helicopter and assisted them aboard, while the commander started the engines. The helicopter lifted into a hover at 1924 hrs, and then hover-taxied to the middle of the paddock in which the helipad was sited. The commander, who was the pilot flying, briefed that he would climb vertically from the hover before setting course.
The helicopter climbed, initially with very little ground speed. At a height of approximately 32 ft, the helicopter started transitioning, picking up forward speed as it continued to climb.
The radio altitude peaked at 125 ft agl as the ground speed increased through 60 kt. The helicopter thereafter pitched progressively nose-down, entering a descent as it did so, reaching 35º nose‑down one second before the end of the data recording. The final complete frame of recorded data analysed to date showed a pitch attitude of 25º nose-down, a radio altitude of 82 ft agl and a ground speed of 90 kt. The recorded rate of descent was 2,400 ft/min and increasing.
In the final few seconds of the flight the co-pilot made two verbal prompts regarding pitch attitude to the commander. Simultaneously, the recorded data shows that full collective was applied.
The recorded data includes parameters relating to cautions, warnings and faults. None were active during the accident flight with the exception of the last data points when full collective had been applied and a gearbox torque-related caution was triggered. The data showed that trim release switches on the cyclic and collective controls, on which force must be applied against springs to achieve manual flight, were active throughout the flight. The comprehensive recorded data set is subject to on-going analysis.

Initial engineering examination

The helicopter struck the ground in a gently rising field immediately ahead of a row of rolled hay bales approximately 420 m from the take off point. There was no evidence that the helicopter had made contact with any other object prior to this point.
The first ground marks, made by the lower nose structure of the helicopter and the nose wheels, indicated that the landing gear was down and that the helicopter had struck the ground level in roll and approximately 25º of nose-down pitch. [BIt then passed through the hay bales into a ploughed section of the field. Ground markings confirmed that all of the main rotor blades had made contact with the ground shortly after the start of the impact sequence. [/B]

The distribution of wreckage indicated that, immediately after the main rotor blades struck the ground, the helicopter became airborne again and rotated clockwise about the main rotor head before striking the ground 45 m beyond the first ground mark.
The helicopter came to rest upright 63 m from the initial impact point.
The helicopter suffered significant disruption to the fuselage which resulted in the failure of all the major structural elements of the cockpit and passenger cabin. The right fuel tank was intact, but the[B] left tank was found to be leaking.[/B[ Initial examination confirmed that both engines had been operating during the impact sequence and that the rotor head could turn freely. Impact damage had resulted in the failure of the tail rotor drive shaft at the base of the fin but witness marks confirmed that the drive shaft had been rotating during the impact sequence. The tail rotor drive shaft was also found to rotate freely when the main rotor head was turned. Information provided by the manufacturer showed that Emergency Airworthiness Directive 2014-0073-E, ‘Inspection / Replacement of lower half scissor bearing’, published by EASA on 20 March 2014, was not applicable to G-LBAL.
The remains of the helicopter were recovered to the AAIB’s headquarters, where they will be the subject of detailed examination.

Analysis

AAIB investigation to date has not identified any technical malfunction which might account for the accident. The investigation continues, with the aim of identifying any technical matters of relevance, as well as focussing on flight in degraded visual environments.
Well, as someone noted at pprune
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Seems to me like this decision was made unusually quick
i.e rushing out a narrative that the helicopter was not the problem. I think the distribution of wreckage (we can't see the marks in the ground because the released aerial footage is deliberately low quality....) needs a lot more analysis in conjunction with the "report".

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So if I understand this correctly, there was a perfectly adequate and functioning AP and the pilot decided to over ride and fly manually and then crashed the aircraft?.
Hmmm And now there is no evidence of it hitting any branch, tree or other object....
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:11 AM   #103
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more about Lord Ballyedmond from twitter:

keith baker ‏@KeithBaker12 29 Dec 2012
@BeebsyMcA @mikephilpott I have dined there. Was greeted by Mary Haughey wearing a tiara.


Mike Philpott ‏@mikephilpott 29 Dec 2012
@KeithBaker12 @BeebsyMcA I know two hacks who arrived by helicopter, pissed off Lord Ballyedmond and were left to find their own way home!

Chris Ryder ‏@Chrisryder47
@mikephilpott @keithbaker12 @beebsymca Lord Norbrook bought wonderful staircase from Robinson & Cleaver & it is now to be found in castle.
1:32 pm - 29 Dec 2012 from Castlereagh, Castlereagh

Mike Philpott ‏@mikephilpott 29 Dec 2012
@Chrisryder47 @KeithBaker12 @BeebsyMcA I know. Preferred it in Robinson & Cleaver.

Bronagh ‏@BeebsyMcA 29 Dec 2012
@mikephilpott @Chrisryder47 @KeithBaker12 Have we clarified that it was Mary Haughey wearing the tiara, by the way?


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May 3 2013 - now a restaurant
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Robinson and Cleaver, at the corner of Donegall Place and Donegall Square North, became a top department store in Belfast after opening in the late 19th century, and bore such connotations of grandeur that it was known as 'The Old Lady'. It was a classy place to visit, where staff knew their usually wealthy clientele. Its most famous feature was a marble staircase, auctioned in 1984

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Old 18-05-2014, 09:45 PM   #104
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27447355
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The family of the late industrialist Lord Ballyedmond are the wealthiest people in Northern Ireland, the Sunday Times rich list has suggested.

The newspaper estimates the wealth of Lady Ballyedmond and her family at £1.4bn, up by £540m last year.
How's the probate coming along?

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The Company is almost self-contained in its raw material production and produces many intermediates for the pharmaceutical industry.

The Company's finished dose forum division produces sterile injectables for both medical and veterinary use. It has facilities to produce tablets, capsules, aerosols, creams, sterile injections of solutions, suspensions and powders. All to the standards of Good Manufacturing Practice and for export world wide including Europe, the US and Japan.
The Company has a heavy commitment to chemical process development. It has invested over £80 Million within the last 5 years in the synthesis of complicated molecules.

Lady Ballyedmond (Mary) is a practising solicitor by profession, engaged mostly in large estates, conveyancing and probate.
source? Wikileaks...
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...llyedmond.docx
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Old 18-05-2014, 09:58 PM   #105
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Any idea why he should buy the gaff at Gillingham as this part of the country is out on a limb a bit and if his business was in Ireland it makes no sense to have the place?
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Old 19-05-2014, 02:24 AM   #106
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Any idea why he should buy the gaff at Gillingham as this part of the country is out on a limb a bit and if his business was in Ireland it makes no sense to have the place?
Indeed - his son Edward is listed there on 192.com
http://sindar.net/iuaa/results/athlete/10151/
again, miles from Cumberland Breweries of which he's a co-director
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Old 22-05-2014, 09:42 PM   #107
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The helicopter struck the ground in a gently rising field immediately ahead of a row of rolled hay bales approximately 420 m from the take off point. There was no evidence that the helicopter had made contact with any other object prior to this point.

Hmmm And now there is no evidence of it hitting any branch, tree or other object....
The breweries business in Cumbria!... Gillingham is not even near to Norwich airport and really is baffling why he supposedly brought the place from a very wealthy Arab (from memory)

Obviously they are changing their story as the main feed was hitting a conifer tree that was mentioned on the radio as and when I posted it coinciding with the stooge photographer (police taser training pics on his web site) and his tree branch pics in the media

As you pointed out the crash virtually in the middle of the secluded section surrounded by hay bales is very 'convenient'..

I was under the assumption they announced an accident based on the fictitious tree branch......
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:33 PM   #108
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from the archives...
http://www.cumberlandnews.co.uk/arch...dral-1.379476#

* Cumberland News

Archbishop of Canterbury licenses Haughey wedding in the Cathedral


Friday, 13 August 2004

THE DAUGHTER of Cumbria’s richest man is to marry in Carlisle Cathedral under a special licence granted by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

The Archbishop, Dr Rowan Williams, has granted the licence to Caroline Haughey, 28, who plans to marry Mark Braid on Saturday week. Both are barristers in London.

Miss Haughey, is the only daughter of Lord Ballyedmond (Edward Haughey), the multi-millionaire owner of Carlisle Airport, Corby Castle, Norbrook Pharmaceuticals and the Ballyedmond estate which borders Carlingford Lough in Co. Down.

Only one or two weddings take place in the cathedral each year. Unless worshippers live permanently in the cathedral grounds, they have to apply for a special licence to marry there.

They have to prove a “special attachment” to the cathedral. The Archbishop issues these licences only in exceptional circumstances.

No application can be considered unless cathedral ministers are prepared to take the marriage service and support a couple’s application.

If the couple also do not satisfy normal residency requirements, they have to show a genuine and longstanding connection with the cathedral. This can be if members of a family regularly worship there or there is a family home in the diocese.

The cathedral’s Canon David Weston said: “Caroline has had to apply for a special licence for her wedding.

“People who do want to marry in the cathedral need to be on its electoral roll and are expected to attend services with some frequency for at least six months.

“Caroline was confirmed in the cathedral and has had a long association with us.

“She is on our electoral roll and is a great friend and lover of the cathedral. We are very much looking forward to this occasion.”

A former lecturer in criminal law, Miss Haughey was called to the Bar in 1999 and is a barrister dealing with general, sexual and violent crime both as a prosecutor and defender.

She works from Furnival Chambers, based in central London, and is a member of the Criminal Bar Association and the Middle Temple, one of the four Inns of Court.

Lord Ballyedmond recently took up his seat with the Ulster Unionists in the House of Lords.

As a former Fianna Fail senator, he is the first person to have sat in both the UK and Eire upper houses since the sixth Marquess of Landsdowne in 1927."

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/...-26956881.html
29 September 2011
"LORD Ballyedmond, Edward Haughey, is building one of the largest homes constructed in Ireland in over 100 years in north Louth, The Argus has learned."
The house has been described as a 'neoclassical design' likened to the Merrion Street facade of Leinster House, complete with columns, arched portico and domed roof.

When completed, it will be second only in size to Martinstown House, JP McManus sprawling 40,000sq ft home in County Limerick."



quid novi est??? very little, apart from this one announcement we missed...
Cosima Caroline BRAID
http://announcements.thetimes.co.uk/...&aid=169230227
On 8th January 2014, to Caroline (née Haughey) and Mark, a daughter, Cosima Caroline Heather, a sister for Alexandra and Victoria.
Published in The Times on January 23, 2014
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Old 04-05-2015, 12:46 AM   #109
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This location is on the St Michael Leyline (poss near Gillingham Hall + Church) and it is sacred at this time of year as it starts to 'fire up' = mass negative energy on the location..tragic nonetheless as is every death on the roads which get no mainstream media attention..

Confirmed...

One of the victims is understood to be Lord Ballyedmond, who owns Gillingham Hall. (That is a gaff and a half)

Although not a fatality the exact spot across the road (A143) yards from the 'helicopter crash' site on a Beltane date.

A 3 car crash that completely blocked the road at the very same spot of the incident.

http://www.becclesandbungayjournal.c...a143_1_4055164
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The has been a burst of activity at pprune, occasioned by the October release of the AAIB report. What a waste of time even discussing a made up scenario.
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/535...orfolk-33.html


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The helicopter departed the private site in fog and at night. Operation from the site in such conditions was permissible under existing regulation. Departure from a licensed aerodrome in such conditions would not have been permitted.
Evidence suggests that the flight crew may have been subject to somatogravic illusion caused by the helicopter’s flight path and the lack of external visual cues.
Seems like the AAIB are working backwards from Figure 3, ignoring the imagery which seems to show the helicopter blown up while on the ground.
https://assets.digital.cabinet-offic...LBAL_10-15.pdf

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The has been a burst of activity at pprune, occasioned by the October release of the AAIB report. What a waste of time even discussing a made up scenario.
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/535...orfolk-33.html

Seems like the AAIB are working backwards from Figure 3, ignoring the imagery which seems to show the helicopter blown up while on the ground.
https://assets.digital.cabinet-offic...LBAL_10-15.pdf

Having read these reports Big Bro Co (first to broadcast the tree hoax the next night http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...post1062030199 ) and the mainstream media photo lies (Mail broken tree branch Jason Bye photography http://www.jasonbye.co.uk/#!/portfol...000UgVRgh25.XE mason alert ) should be ashamed of themselves and shows just how much they collude in the cover up.. 'Intelligence' operation imo. DISGRACEFUL


I am not sure what happened but I believe there was a good chance there could have been at least one survivor. It could well have been downed with a jammer that renders some controls inoperable?

All in all Lord Bally whats his name was the target..
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Old 16-12-2015, 01:25 PM   #112
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Helicopters are the most dangerious form of transport but MP's love them to jump over the clogged up traffic jams and no questions gets asked about all the wasted energy.

Elf 'n Safty is a tool used aginst us and is full of double standards

Stop the effing MP's flying over the skys of London and they might do something to fix the transport system we all waste time sitting in
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Old 16-12-2015, 01:53 PM   #113
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Gosh its been slow in the news lately if helicopter crashes are highlighted here.
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