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Old 23-09-2014, 02:04 PM   #61
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You keep using this term Government.
HM government is HM owned.
It's her government.

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You keep using this term Illuminati and Free-masons.
They are not higher than The Crown.

The only thing that The Crown have in common with the Illuminati is that many people dont know who the Illuminati are or what they are v Politicians that dont know what The Crown is or who The Crown is.
As well as the fact, they control and own everything
Pyramid of power?

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Truth, i feel, is not to be found within the Illuminati
As for Lucifer and Satan, you're going into the realms of belief

You basically just shot off into space
No this is the belief of the vatican and the rabbi's. it all circles round satan and lucifer. But who invented it? into space again, the reptiles?

Best place is space.
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Old 23-09-2014, 03:02 PM   #62
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It's her government.



Pyramid of power?



No this is the belief of the vatican and the rabbi's. it all circles round satan and lucifer. But who invented it? into space again, the reptiles?

Best place is space.
Ok, well i will leave the religious aspects to you.
For me, She owns HM Government like Richard Branson owns virgin.
Like Branson hires managers and directors to run the company for him, and has little to do with the running of the company, the queen hires HMMP's to run the country for her, and has little to do with the day to day running of the country. This is what we have been lead to believe, and to a large extent, probably true.
However, the HM government are supposed to be running the country for you.
But they are not, they are running it for her.

This is not Governments fault, as a whole
Nor should it give Governments a bad name.
As i have said, you all blame a government, you have not got.
Maybe it is about time you devolved one

Crown establishment
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Old 23-09-2014, 03:04 PM   #63
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Crown servants ( civil servants).
Very nice pension, thank you ma'am.

Crown Servants
Very good
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Old 23-09-2014, 03:17 PM   #64
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When the completion stage practices have been mastered and we have gained control over our subtle energy winds and so forth, there will come a time when the dakas and dakinis will come... physically embracing such a consort is necessary to bring all the pervading energy winds into the central channel, a prerequisite for opening the heart center and experiencing the profoundest level of clear light.."what are dakas and dakinis? Simply speaking they are Males & Females who possess advanced experiences of tantric transformation and control and are therefore able to increase the blissful wisdom of a highly qualified practioner"...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj9M34DzAKo

In medieval Hindu legend, a daka (feminine dakini) is an Evil or Malevolent spirit.. The term shakini is sometimes used interchangeably..The chief deity who has control over such malevolent spirits is Hanuman.. The Vichitra Veer Hanuman Stroram, sung in praise of Vichitra Veer Hanuman, a ferocious form of Hanuman, details the negative elements over whom Hanuman has control, including dakini. There are many other Hanuman mantras to win over a dakini..Hanuman participated in Rama's war against the demon king Ravana.. According to Jain texts, Hanuman is a human of vanara clan whose emblem is the monkey.. Several texts also present him as an incarnation of Lord Shiva.. He is the son of Vayu, who according to several stories, played a role in his birth...



According to one legend Dakini and Shakini were the wives of Tripurasura.. After Tripurasura was slain by Shiva, they received the boon from Shiva that they Could live in the forest without any threat and people would have to chant their names before they could visit the shrine of Bhimashankara.. Hence the forest around there became known as Dakini Forest...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakini
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...=168454&page=5Humans... and how I love you talking Monkeys for this... know more about War and treachery of the spirit than any Angel...http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=434


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Old 23-09-2014, 03:18 PM   #65
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Those loyal to The Crown

Famous quotation we hear all the time
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Old 23-09-2014, 03:37 PM   #66
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Yep.
UK Civil Servants, no matter what job all have to swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown.
No oath - no job.
I've just retired from the Civil ( Crown) Service.
47-years boy and man.
Never really took a liking to full time work but the money was good and the pension is superb.
Civil Service jobs are usually jobs for life and you'll never wear out from doing them.
Beats the private sector hands down.
You're expected to 'produce' value if you work for a private firm.
No such nonsense in the Civil Service.
As long as the job gets done you're generally left alone to do it at your own pace.
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Old 23-09-2014, 03:49 PM   #67
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Yep.
UK Civil Servants, no matter what job all have to swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown.
No oath - no job.
I've just retired from the Civil ( Crown) Service.
47-years boy and man.
Never really took a liking to full time work but the money was good and the pension is superb.
Civil Service jobs are usually jobs for life and you'll never wear out from doing them.
Beats the private sector hands down.
You're expected to 'produce' value if you work for a private firm.
No such nonsense in the Civil Service.
As long as the job gets done you're generally left alone to do it at your own pace.
There we go
"oath of allegience"

This is what we think freemasons give to The Illuminati.
So we have "The Oath of Allegience" aswell.

This i think comes with any services directly under The Crown.
A soldier must sign an oath of allegience before signing up for HM Armed forces.

Even in court, we are forced to swear an oath to The Crown
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Old 23-09-2014, 05:31 PM   #68
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Why does everyone blame the Illuminati when The Crown own everything in England?

The Bank Of England is Crown owned
Armed Forces, Crown owned
Her Majesties Government, Crown owned.
Church Of England, Crown owned.
England, Crown owned
etc etc etc

How much more proof do you require that it is the Crown that are behind it?
The Illuminati and The Crown want similar things. The Crown, since the roots of Government, were against government.
I would imagine they still are as they would see Government bodies not under their direct control, in the way HMG is, as a direct threat to them.
The Illuminati are also said to be against government.

Do you not feel you are merely allowing The Crown to get away with such blatant ownership by pointing blame elsewhere?

BB can you name the Illuminati ?
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BB can you name the Illuminati ?
The Crown

The Crown have been around for neons
Just like your supposed Illuminati
The Crown probably goes back to Egypt, just like your mythological secret societies.
The only difference is, The Crown is FACT, the Illuminati is FICTION
If you study the history of The Crown, you will uncover the truth.
If you study the history of the Illuminati, you will end up in a warped reality written by anonymous sources, with the imagination filling in the gaps, making monumental leaps in faith, where the masses dont take you seriously, and rightly so
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Old 23-09-2014, 05:43 PM   #70
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The Crown

The Crown have been around for neons
Just like your supposed Illuminati
The Crown probably goes back to Egypt, just like your mythological secret societies.
The only difference is, The Crown is FACT, the Illuminati is FICTION
If you study the history of The Crown, you will uncover the truth.
If you study the history of the Illuminati, you will end up in a warped reality where the masses dont take you seriously, and rightly so
Can you name any members of the Illuminati...

The Illuminati v The Crown..Can you name any members...

Thanks...

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Old 23-09-2014, 05:49 PM   #71
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What the Crown is? is the real political argument.
It is not who are the Illuminati.
The Crown, like the Illuminati are invisible.
The Illuminati is just crumbs for the masses to work out while politicians argue with eachother what The Crown is.
Of course, we know who The Crown are.
But look at The Crown, across the world, in every level of society, through our courts, buildings, land, all Crown owned.

If we believe in the Illuminati, we probably got owned
You can talk about legalities and you can talk about how the city of london is its own legal enclave and how it forms the financial heart of the freemasonic empire and how the vatican city is the religious heart and how washington District of Columbia is the political heart and also its own legal enclave but essentially we are talking about a network of people

The United States as per the constitution is not the same as the US run from washington. The washington US is a corporation

But the 'crown' is the cabal controlling the corporation formed through the creation of the city of london which dates back to the templars
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http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/the...d-city-of.html

The (British) Crown Empire and the City of London Corporation
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Old 23-09-2014, 06:20 PM   #73
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Post the queen is the head of the british Illuminati

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Why does everyone blame the Illuminati when The Crown own everything in England?

The Bank Of England is Crown owned
Armed Forces, Crown owned
Her Majesties Government, Crown owned.
Church Of England, Crown owned.
England, Crown owned
etc etc etc

How much more proof do you require that it is the Crown that are behind it?
The Illuminati and The Crown want similar things. The Crown, since the roots of Government, were against government.
I would imagine they still are as they would see Government bodies not under their direct control, in the way HMG is, as a direct threat to them.
The Illuminati are also said to be against government.

Do you not feel you are merely allowing The Crown to get away with such blatant ownership by pointing blame elsewhere?
brittan is ruled by the jesuit Provincial for Britain. Fr Dermot Preston
and queen elizabeth II of england

prince phillip ruled over the british secret societys for the jesuit general adofo nicolas

prince charles ruled over The British intelligence Community and ruled by the knight of malta for the jesuit general adolfo nicolas.

bbc ruled by the knight of malta.

queen elizabeth II of england is the head british illuminati - she is a dame of malta

SMOM Sovereign Military Order of Malta

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/SMOM.html

the brittish illuminati ,the royal family and the jesuit Provincial of Britain. Fr Dermot Preston rule over brittan for the jesuit general adolfo nicolas.

Know Your Enemy -Jesuits and the Vatican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YqCn5kCgiY

The Bavarian Illuminati a Front Organization for the Jesuit Order

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280277
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Who would win?
Your secret societies?
Or The Crowns Secret Services?

We all know The Crown have Secret Services, but they become rather blurred when we bigin to talk about Illuminati secret societies.
Like GrandmasterP said, you have to swear oaths to Her Majesties Secret Services

Fact v Fiction
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Old 23-09-2014, 07:17 PM   #75
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Who would win?
Your secret societies?
Or The Crowns Secret Services?
They're the same thing
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SMOM Sovereign Military Order of Malta

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/SMOM.html

the brittish illuminati ,the royal family and the jesuit Provincial of Britain. Fr Dermot Preston rule over brittan for the jesuit general adolfo nicolas.

Know Your Enemy -Jesuits and the Vatican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YqCn5kCgiY

The Bavarian Illuminati a Front Organization for the Jesuit Order

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280277


According to BB the Illuminati do not exist ! what about all the other countries in the world!...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Andes
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...&postcount=127

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brittan is ruled by the jesuit Provincial for Britain. Fr Dermot Preston
and queen elizabeth II of england

prince phillip ruled over the british secret societys for the jesuit general adofo nicolas

prince charles ruled over The British intelligence Community and ruled by the knight of malta for the jesuit general adolfo nicolas.

bbc ruled by the knight of malta.

queen elizabeth II of england is the head british illuminati - she is a dame of malta

SMOM Sovereign Military Order of Malta

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/SMOM.html

the brittish illuminati ,the royal family and the jesuit Provincial of Britain. Fr Dermot Preston rule over brittan for the jesuit general adolfo nicolas.

Know Your Enemy -Jesuits and the Vatican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YqCn5kCgiY

The Bavarian Illuminati a Front Organization for the Jesuit Order

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280277
Regarding the Dame of Malta claim.
Malta has been a Parliamentary Republic since 1974.

Also i did see some websites with sensationalised headlines saying that Elizabeth 2 is The Dame Of Malta

However, are you sure that it has not been mistaken for Elisabeth von Thurn und Taxis?

Because here is a list of Dames Of Malta, and i dont see Elizabeth 2 on it

Anne Burke
Bernadette Castro
Marie Isobel, Countess Cathcart
Mary Higgins Clark
Janne Haaland Matláry
Freda Payne
Sharon Rich
Karen Garver Santorum
Phyllis Schlafly
Marianna, Dowager Viscountess Monckton of Brenchley, served as High Sheriff of Kent (1981–82); widow of Gilbert Walter Riversdale Monckton, 2nd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
Patricia Mary, Lady Talbot of Malahide (née Riddell)
Elisabeth von Thurn und Taxis
Princess Michael of Kent

Lady Jean Bertie (née Crichton-Stuart), mother of Fra' Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie, first Grand Master of the Order of Malta since 1258 to hail from the English-speaking world †
Csilla von Boeselager †
Genevieve Garvan Brady, Dame of the Holy Sepulchre, holder of the Cross Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice, founder of the Carroll Club (“for Catholic business girls”), philanthropist; Board Chairman Girl Scouts of the USA; Vice-President of the Welfare Council of New York †
Virginia A. Dwyer (1921-1997), Director/Deputy Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Rochester; and a Board member of Eaton Corporation, Schering-Plough, Borden, Southern Company, the Atlantic Companies, and Georgia Power. †
Clare Ann Kalkwarf, Vice-President, Brotherhood of Blessed Gérard, the South African Relief Organisation of the Order of Malta; first South African woman to be invested as a Dame of Malta †
Clare Boothe Luce †
Dorothea Angela McElduff (1926–2013), Member of Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre and Dame of Malta †
Mary McShain (née Mary J. Horstmann), great-niece of Bishop Ignatius F. Horstmann (the third Bishop of the Diocese of Cleveland); widow of John McShain †
Regina A. Quick, philanthropist †
Lady Hilda Susan Northcote Swan, late wife of Sir Conrad Swan †
Princess Urraca of Bourbon-Two Sicilies †
Princess Maria Ludwiga Theresia of Bavaria †
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Also like the Illuminati spreads out.
The Crown spreads out over The Commonwealth (forgive the pun and irony in that statement)
It has huge buisness affairs spreading well beyond The Commonwealth, however
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Also like the Illuminati spreads out.
The Crown spreads out over The Commonwealth (forgive the pun and irony in that statement)
It has huge buisness affairs spreading well beyond The Commonwealth, however
The crown is a powerful group of people presiding over a corporate network...yes?

But those people don't just sit around analysing their balance sheets

In the inner order they are occultists

They are qabalists

They are perceiving the world, reality, themselves and everyone else in a completely different way to the way the average person on the street perceives those things

So when we start getting into an occult dimension then the title 'illuminated ones' begins to have more currency but they are basically different layers of the same network

The cabal see themselves as platonic philosopher kings who should rule over the rest of humanity
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But those people don't just sit around analysing their balance sheets

In the inner order they are occultists

They are qabalists

They are perceiving the world, reality, themselves and everyone else in a completely different way to the way the average person on the street perceives those things
Who owns the Newspapers..
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