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The covenant

Charles I tried to pass a law making nobles pay to maintain their feudal charters in order to refinance the church. The nobility rebelled and joined the presbyterians in signing the COVENANT to safeguard their landed property.

Charles then attempted to force his liturgy on the church which then drove the ministers into the arms of the aristocrats.

His son Charles II also re-introduced episcopacy and restoring patronage which then led to the covenanting wars where the nobles once again backed the movement to protect their landed property

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The breakdown of the clan system

'For a long time the highlands and islands were part of a Norse kingdom and then they enjoyed substantial autonomy under the Lord of the Isles.'

'Older systems of land tenure and kinship based society lasted longer there than in Lowland scotland and, as a consequence, feudalism and the central authority it embodied were slower to take root. As a consequence a hybrid system of land tenure evolved, whereby native title under the duthaich system (land, native country or territory over which hereditary rights are exercised) continued well into the seventeenth century with feudal charters granted on an ad hoc basis as a means of imposing the Crowns authority and bending the native aristocracy to its will.'
-Poor had no lawyers pg 42

A dispute between the lord of the isles and James IV saw the forfeiture of the lord of isles and the systematic assimilation of the highlands through feudal grants and central edicts. King James also granted feudal charters to clan chiefs which did not correspond to the territory actually settled by their clan society (duthaich) over which they they exercised heritable trusteeship. Estates would be granted by feudal charter to the chief of another clan and the king would sit back and watch as strife was stirred up.

This was the beginning of a long process whereby clan society began to break down as clan loyalties and native systems of governance yielded to the charter and the authority of the crown. It was a time during which the most ruthless means were deployed against highland society to promote assimilation into the scottish state, to curtail the power of the chiefs, to suppress gaelic culture and to exert feudal control over clan lands.'
-p42-43

'The dragon refined its technique, turning from murder and rape to less open, more patient ways. The devices used to cheat men out of their homelands were the charter, the mortgage, the false promise, instigation to violence, false witness, the control of courts of justice, and letters of fire and sword. The latter was the Privy councils written authority to kill and burn, granted to men strong enough to harry an offending clan'- W.H. Murray in his biography of Rob Roy MacGregor and the treatment of the clan gregor by Clan Campbell
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The age of forays

The loss of the lordship of the isles brought the end of a golden period for gaelic culture. The machinations of the stewart king saw the highlands and islands fracture into infighting between rival clans as he sought to assimilate them into his scottish state.

This then became the time of cattle rustling and clan battles that the highlands have become synonymous with. But it was the forfeiture of the lord of the isles to the central authority in edinburgh that caused the fracture lines to appear and the destabilisation that followed that left the highlands divided and weaker for it

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A Policy of Genocide

''By Act of the Privy Council at Stirling on 2 September 1563, Letters of Fire and Sword against the clan [Macgregor] were granted to Sir John Campbell of Glenorchy and all the nobles. The grants were repeated in 1588, 1590 and 1597 and were renewed at intervals over a hundred and thirty years. Their policy was genocide.'
-W.H.Murray

'In 1583, King James V issued a mandate against Clan Chattan, in which he charges his lieges to invade the clan 'to their utter destruction by slaughter, burning, drowning, and otherways; and leave no creature living of that clan, except priests, women and bairns.'

'In 1587, The General band Act was passed 'for the quieting and keeping in obedience of the disordered subjects, inhabitants of the borders, highlands and isles'

'Ultimately the goal was to establish feudal authority and, in 1597, James VI passed an act aimed at consolidating feudal tenure in the Highlands by requiring all who claimed to own land to prove it by the exhibiting of a feudal charter.'
-The Poor had no Lawyers p43

'This draconian Act threatened forfeiture for any clan chief unable to exhibit a valid title to their land.'
-p44

'the turmoil between the twelth and the eighteenth centuries was at bottom a struggle between the patriarchal tribe and the feudal baron, between the non-chartered, semi-communist gaels and the ruthless, remorseless, grasping descendants of the pirates who had followed William the Conqueror to the plunder of England'
-p45

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Scottish wildcat nicknamed the 'beast' may be largest ever seen
By Auslan Cramb, Scottish Correspondent
28 March 2018

"These cats are a vital part of Scotland's wild nature and ecology, and they must be protected wherever they live; they are one of the rarest animals in the world.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...est-ever-seen/

so kinda like the scottish people themselves then? But afforded more protections than the scottish people

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Old 03-04-2018, 03:35 PM   #66
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EDF energy mega-corp trying to steal the right of the lewis trust to harvest their own wind...

EDF's links to the rothschilds: https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/f...rothschild.pdf

Crofters on Lewis fight EDF and Wood Group's windfarm proposal
Energy giants hope Scottish court will permit development of 36 turbines on moorland
Holly Watt
Sun 4 Feb 2018 14.09 GMT
Hundreds of crofters are fighting an attempt by the energy giants EDF and Wood Group to build a windfarm on the island of Lewis.

More than 200 crofters have objected to proposals to build on communal land close to Stornoway, the biggest town in the Outer Hebrides. The crofters want to build their own development, with the profits going to the local community.

The row started because under Scottish law crofters have rights over the land even though the multinationals have bought a lease through a joint venture called Lewis Wind Power. Crofting is bound by complex rules that give both landowners and smallholders rights.

EDF and Wood have now applied to the Scottish land court to force through the development of 36 turbines on the “common grazings”, triggering the objections to the plans. Wind is increasingly seen as a key natural resource in the Western Isles, with the potential to boost the economic future of the islands.

The contested area is moorland called the Stornoway General, a few miles from the main town. Stornoway General is divided into areas for different villages and owned by the Stornoway Trust.

One township, Point and Sandwick, has built three turbines on its section, borrowing £14m from Santander bank to finance the development, and the turbines now support a drug and alcohol programme, a hospice and a local arts centre.

Calum MacDonald, a former Labour MP for the area who was involved in developing the first three turbines, said the earlier development proved that the crofters’ plans were viable. “We absolutely believe we can make it work and that we would be able to borrow the money for the development,” he said. “EDF would not be doing it unless they believed it would make money.”

MacDonald said crofting rights were particularly important to locals. “After the Highland Clearances, the crofts were protected by statute. Like so much land in Scotland, two different interests have rights over the land – the landowner and the crofter. It’s because of the history that people get so upset, the idea that their rights to the land would just be handed over to a multinational, just like that.”

Angus McCormack, a local councillor and chair of the Point and Sandwick Trust, said a larger community-owned project could finance more local causes, as well as create jobs on an island with a high poverty rate.

“We have to do it for the young people. There is nothing else to stay for,” said McCormack. “Building our own windfarms would be transformational to the islands. One of the key things is trying to keep hold of the young people. They go away for their education, and they never come back.”

Rhoda MacKenzie from the Sandwick and North Street township said the 70-year lease was too long. “In a few months’ time, it could be gone for two or three generations,” she said. “If this were oil, they would be treating it differently, but wind has always been here. It’s just we’ve proved that we know how to harness it now.”

The rules governing crofting evolved because, traditionally, crofters had small pieces of land next to their houses, where they raised livestock during the winter. During the summer, they would travel to the moor. Crofters’ rights include grazing sheep and cattle and cutting peat, and they have extended to planting trees and building windfarms.

In their 2017 general election manifesto, the Conservatives announced that, although onshore wind power would no longer be subsidised, an exemption would be made to support the development of wind projects in the remote islands of Scotland provided they “directly benefit the local communities”.

This means that Lewis Wind Power could bid for subsidies under the “contract for difference” (CfD) scheme, which guarantees a minimum price for electricity. EDF recently agreed a CfD deal for the Hinkley Point C nuclear power station in Somerset, which has been criticised for the vast projected cost to electricity consumers.

Supporters of Lewis Wind Power said that multinationals’ involvement is critical to support the construction of an interconnector, carrying electricity to the mainland grid. Although EDF and Wood Group would not invest directly in the interconnector, it will not be built unless there is a guarantee of largescale electricity generation.

Kerry MacPhee, from Lewis Wind Power, said: “Without the interconnector, there won’t be any more community windfarms or any project on the island. We need this interconnector. Lewis Wind Power have been working on this project for years. It’s not as simple as just bidding into a contract for difference. You’ve got to have the critical mass.”

Iain Maciver, the factor (agent) of the Stornoway Trust, said the interconnector was vital. “If they do their maths, they will realise that 100% of nothing will always be nothing. If we don’t get this project through, the island economy is on its knees.”

Patrick Krause, the chief executive of the Scottish Crofting Federation, said the crofters’ objections were important. “This is something that the government should be looking at as part of their infrastructure development anyway,” said Krause. “The Scottish government’s plans are to increase our dependency on renewable energy, and if the best places for turbines are on the islands, or offshore completely, then we need interconnectors. I don’t like the fact that the Scottish government are maybe getting out of their duty on this and leaving a community to fight with a big transnational syndicate.”

Donald John MacSween, the general manager of the Point and Sandwick Trust, said that the crofters’ plans justified the interconnector. “For generations, we’ve been living in a gale, and now that we’ve finally found a way to make money out of it, I don’t see why EDF should take it,” said MacSween. “Mind you, if we can find a way of making money out of rain and dark nights, then we’ll really be in business.”
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SNP ‘climbing into bed’ with wind farm firm
March 15, 2018 • Scotland
Credit: Isle’s crofters battle French energy giant | By Sam Walker | Scottish Daily Mail | 14 March 2018

The SNP has been accused of ‘climbing into bed’ with big-money foreign investors over plans for a giant wind farm.

Islanders on Lewis are battling a proposal by French firm EDF that would see 36 turbines erected on old crofting land.

If the development, near Stornoway, goes ahead then tenant crofters will lose rights to the land for 70 years.

The Scottish Land Court has received 250 objections from locals who want permission to build a smaller, community wind farm on part of the site – with all profits going to the island. The court will make a decision later this year.

Campaigner Rhoda MacKenzie, 56, whose family have been crofters on Lewis for four generations, said: ‘We haven’t had any backing from the SNP at all. When we have made a protest to the MP, he didn’t lift a finger despite there being 250 objections.

‘It seems to us that the SNP would much rather climb into the bed with this French company for short-term gain than look out for the Scottish island communities in the long term. If EDF get their way, most of the profits from the wind farm will be taken back to France, whereas we want to run it and keep the money, which will be put back into the Scots economy.

‘It’s a David and Goliath fight. We have to keep fighting because it’s not just a piece of land we are talking about, it’s the future of our community and our children. This could have a huge impact on our way of life on Lewis.’

Under the EDF deal, the community could get £900,000 a year, but it has been claimed a community project could bring in £5million.

The battle has now been raging for six years. In 2012, landlords gained planning permission for a wind farm under the joint company name Lewis Wind Power (LWP) after agreeing a lease for the land with the Stornoway Trust. It has authority to build 36 turbines around the town.

LWP said the plans would offer crofters the chance to buy 20 per cent of the farm at a later date.

But some locals say the projected £40million to £50million retrospective ‘buy in’ rate would not be affordable. Crofters also claim that their own application for a community wind farm, made last year to the Crofting Commission, is still pending.

A key issue is the installation of a high-capacity, £800million ‘interconnector’, to allow energy produced on the island to reach the mainland. An SNP spokesman said this would only be built if there was a wind farm scheme big enough to ‘justify the investment’. He added: ‘The reality is that the EDF project will enable smaller, community-owned schemes to make money in the years ahead.’

An EDF spokesman, on behalf of LWP, said: ‘The Western Isles needs a new link to export electricity to the mainland and this will only happen if the LWP projects go ahead. The new link will have enough spare capacity to allow the development of more community-led wind farms.’

Ministers are attempting to sign more renew-able energy contracts with private investors, known as Contracts for Difference (CfD).

Western Isles Nationalist MP Angus MacNeil said: ‘If we don’t get CfDs, which I’ve been concentrating on, and if island wind is not competitive, then no one would be getting anything and bald men fighting over a comb will have greater significance.’
Source: Isle’s crofters battle French energy giant | By Sam Walker | Scottish Daily Mail | 14 March 2018 |
https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2018...ind-farm-firm/
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Orcas spyhopping, River Clyde, Scotland

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Huge Dinosaur Footprints Discovered on Scottish Coast
The tracks shed light on dinosaur life in the Middle Jurassic, a period from which few fossils have survived.





A newfound site on Scotland's Isle of Skye contains about 50 dinosaur footprints, many belonging to long-necked dinosaurs called sauropods. This footprint preserves the outlines of a sauropod's toes—and even traces the animal's fleshy heel pad.
Photograph by Steve Brusatte, National Geographic Creative
By Michael Greshko

PUBLISHED April 2, 2018

More than 160 million years ago, long-necked dinosaurs called sauropods lumbered through the ancient lagoons that dotted what is now Great Britain. Now, dozens of their footprints have been found on the forbidding, wave-pounded coast of Scotland's Isle of Skye.

Standing on Skye's rocky shores, you might mistake the huge footprints for tidal pools—except that on second glance, you'd see that the pools trace the toes and fleshy heels of dinosaurs.

“These tracks were sort of hiding in plain sight for years,” says University of Southern California paleontologist Michael Habib, who wasn't involved with the discovery. “It goes to show how sauropods are so much larger than everything else, that we field paleontologists are rarely looking for something of that scale at first.”

Amid the large prints, the team also found distinctive three-toed footprints made by theropods, likely creatures that were older cousins of the Cretaceous-period Tyrannosaurus rex.
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EDF plan for tallest UK onshore wind turbines prompts outcry
Isle of Lewis residents protest against windfarm plan to raise turbine height to 200 metres
Adam Vaughan
@adamvaughan_uk
Wed 2 May 2018 16.32 BST

The first government-backed effort to revive onshore windfarms after ministers scrapped public subsidies for the technology has run into opposition in the western isles of Scotland.

EDF Energy has said its plans for two major windfarms on the Isle of Lewis may need to reach heights normally the preserve of turbines at sea, prompting an outcry from residents.

The French company’s renewables unit said it may need higher turbines for the project to be economically viable and win millions of pounds in government subsidies.

Kerry MacPhee, the head of community liaison at Lewis Wind Power, the EDF-led joint venture behind the plan, told locals this week that one of the windfarms could be 200 metres (650ft) tall, with the other 187 metres, up from 150 metres and 145 metres previously. That would be taller than the UK’s largest existing onshore turbine (193.5 metres) and be on a par with some of the world’s most powerful offshore wind turbines, which are 60 metres taller than the London Eye.

MacPhee said the potential changes were designed to increase the project’s chances of winning future auctions for low-carbon electricity and unlock “substantial benefits for Lewis”.

The Conservatives ended subsidies for onshore windfarms shortly after coming to power in 2015, citing public opposition to them. However, last year the government announced onshore wind could compete for subsidies if built on remote islands, where they could benefit communities and generate large-scale clean power. Claire Perry, the energy minister, has also hinted at a return for the technology on the mainland, saying she is “looking carefully” at supporting onshore windfarms in Scotland and Wales – but not England.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...prompts-outcry
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Cultural genocide

'1n 1608, James VI embarked upon perhaps the most decisive attempt to pacify the highlands'- p46 The poor had no lawyers

King James kidnapped by subterfuge (he invited them for a religious service onto a boat which then promptly set sail with them on board) twelve highland chiefs and threw them in prison for twelve months until nine of them agreed to sign a statute agreeing to repair kirks, establish inns, control liqeur, expel the bards and send their eldest sons to the lowlands to be educated; he hoped to abolish gaelic and establish english as the language of the highlands. he passed a statue in 1496 to have landowners sons educated in universities to learn the laws of the crown

After the battle of culloden the estates of jacobites were forfeited and heritable feudal jurisdictions and military wardholding were both abolished. This completed the feudalisation of the highlands. As highland lairds aspired to improve their status in wider british society they embraced sheep farming and drove the people off the land

Much clan land was sold off in the 1800's due to financial mismanagement. Clan chiefs were often in exile or bought out by outsiders who brought their own factors in who then lent on the local peasantry

Sir james Matheson for example grew wealthy from the opium trade in china and used his vast wealth to buy large swathes of land in scotland. By 1900 over half the land area of the highlands was owned by just 15 landowners for example the duke of sutherland who owned 1.2 million acres

Their hegemony was finally challenged by the Crofters Holdings (scotland) act 1886 which saw a large class of tenants enjoying rights for the first time

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The fourth land grab: the Commonties

The commonties were undivided pieces of land that were the common property of neighbouring landowners over which extensive rights of common use persisted. They had avoided being feued.

The commonties offered fuel, food, medicinal plants, grazing and building materials to all who used them but as the feudal system consolidated the commonties were increasingly seen as owned by the parish. When the parish was owned by one person they then took ownership of the commonties.

A series of parliamentary Acts in the 1600's saw the commonties divided up; for example the 1695 Act divided up the land no doubt to allow powerful individuals access to resources like coal and limestone.
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The fifth land grab: the burgh commons

King david I created the burghs by charter. Rents were paid to a feudal superior and the rest into the Common Good Fund

Foreign trade was restricted to royal burghs and no one was to buy or sell any merchandise except to or from the merchants of the burgh. Burghs had tenure known as 'burgage tenure'.

Royal burghs gained parliamentary representation following bruce's parliament in 1326. They had land that could provide essential resources to people in the burgh for example for grazing.

During the reign of James I the artisan class within the burghs was on the ascendancy and threatened the power of the merchant class of burgesses (who could hold property under the burgage tebure as 'freemen'). The merchant class controlled the burgh council and courts and formed its electorate.

The unfree and the craftsmen resented their power and complained when they saw corruption but instead of leading to a restoration of proper governance it lead to the Officers of Burghs Act 1469 which violated the existing constitution of the burghs by abolishing elections! Instead the old council would choose the new council and this rigged system persisted until the burgh reform act of 1833.

After 1503 King James IV gave feues to burgh land which then lead to abuses of power by the merchant class who used their monopoly on power to seize land.
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The sixth land grab: Imperial Colonialism
paraphrased from 'the poor had no lawyers':

As a consequence of the land grab of the burghs the landowners were a unified and powerful class.

''By the late 18th century, landownership had entered a highly profitable era. The powers that these major landowners had lost, for example through the Union of 1707 and the subsequent authority of London based government were countered by the extent of Scotland's land they had secured. The control of this land with all the political, social and economic values it still represented, allowed these landowners to retain their all-pervasive dominance of society in scotland through the 19th century.'

With no more land to appropriate in scotland, that might have been the end of matters but, as luck would have it there was land left to plunder beyond scotlands shores and scotlands landowners were enthusiastic participants in the imperial century following the defeat of napoleon at waterloo. And it was their adventures abroad together with the profits from the industrial revolution that made it increasingly possible to invest vast amounts of capital in their land back home and turn scotland into a huge playground for the nouveaux riches. It was demand for wool during the napolionic wars that began the process of clearances across the highlands. And it was the berlin conference of 1884-85 that carved up africa among the european powers.

Colonialism was in effect the sixth land grab and it was conducted not by individuals on their own account but by individuals deploying state power. In a sense, this turns us full circle back to the early medieval period when the scottish crown was effectively colonising scotland by imposing feudalism across the country''
-Andy Wightman, 'The Poor had no Lawyers'

The annexation of one quarter of the worlds land area by the United Kingdom represents the largest land grab ever undertaken.

Families who benefitted from Imperial expansion included:
-jardines
-mathesons
-flemings
-dundases

they made vast profits from:
-rubber
-tea
-narcotics
-tobacco
-finance

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The seventh land grab: CYBERSPACE
(not anything to do with the book 'the poor had no lawyers, but my own thoughts)

Having grabbed land around the world from the various people living on it the elites created a new space called 'the internet' for military applications and then through their CERN project which is funded to ridiculous levels they created the world wide web

Should it alarm us that both these names have words like 'net' and 'web' in them which are both objects used for ensnaring prey?

The internet has been an apocalyptic piece of technology impacting humanity in even more far reaching ways than the printing press; but where is it all leading?

We are now seeing the government clamping down on online free speech and clearly they are moving to take control over 'cyberspace'

Their occupation of this new public realm that allowed for a brief while the kind of free discourse and exchange of ideas and debate that the old athenian agora used to allow where citizens could gather and share their views will represent a further land grab but this time of virtual space

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The eight landgrab: YOUR BODY

having grabbed the land you stand on and the national assets that provide services to the land you stand on and having gained control of the cyberspace public forum thereby preventing any further public discussion of developments the next stage on which the power grab can occur is your sovereign control over your body

Your body and your mind is the only ground which the elites do not yet control but they are working to change that. They are creating new legislation across the west that will impose intrusive medical procedures like vaccinations on people so that they can put any tech they wish into you that they desire and they are also working on tech that can read your mind and even implant thoughts or voices into your mind

They also have microwave technology that can modulate your moods and interact with the metal nano particulates that have now been found in the vaccines. The 5G grid provides them with a network of microwave transmitters outside every home in the country.

As automation strips peoples jobs away they will be offered universal basic income from the state but in order to receive the digital currency on offer from the state you will have to accept a microchip that will be physically implanted into your body representing the occupation of your only sovereign territory

neural laces will be offered to merge with the 'internet of things' allowing the bio-hack of your only private space left: your mind

Your person is that last piece of ground your spirit has left to call sovereign and a landgrab is currently underway to occupy that

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Agenda 2030: moving people off the land and into SMART cities

The Empire Strikes Back: Leaving Indian Farmers in the Dirt
By Colin Todhunter
Asia-Pacific Research, June 03, 2018

By 2050, if current policies continue, India could have numerous mega-cities with up to 30-40 million inhabitants and just two to three hundred million people (perhaps 15-20% of the population) left in an emptied-out countryside. Given current trends in the job market, it could mean tens of millions of city-based rural migrants without much work: victims of the ill thought out policies we currently see being pushed through.

In the book ‘The Invention of Capitalism’, Michael Perelmen lays bare the iron fist which whipped the English peasantry into a workforce willing to accept factory wage labour. English peasants didn’t want to give up their rural communal lifestyle, leave their land and go work for below-subsistence wages in dangerous factories being set up by a new class of industrial capitalists. A series of laws and measures served to force peasants off the land and deprive them of their productive means.

In India, what we are currently witnessing is a headlong rush to facilitate (foreign) capital and the running down of the existing system of agriculture. While India’s farmers suffer as the sector is deliberately being made financially non-viable for them, we see state-of-the-art airports, IT parks and highways being built to allow the corporate world to spread its tentacles everywhere to the point that every aspect of culture, infrastructure and economic activity is commodified for corporate profit.

GDP growth – the holy grail of ‘development’ which stems from an outmoded thinking and has done so much damage to the environment – has been fuelled on the back of cheap food and the subsequent impoverishment of farmers. The gap between their income and the rest of the population, including public sector workers, has widened enormously to the point where rural India consumes less calories than it did 40 years ago. Meanwhile, corporations receive massive handouts and interest-free loans but have failed to spur job creation; yet any proposed financial injections (or loan waivers) for agriculture (which would pale into insignificance compared to corporate subsidies/written off loans) are depicted as a drain on the economy.
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‘Defend the nation’s sovereignty’: Iceland wants to stop foreign land ownership
Published time: 1 Aug, 2018 11:11

Iceland is considering a law to ban foreigners from buying its land. The country’s authorities and local residents are concerned about how such land is being used.

“First and foremost, I want to defend the nation’s sovereignty,” Iceland’s first environmentalist prime minister, Katrin Jakobsdottir, told Bloomberg. “It matters to us that we can decide how the land is developed and utilized.”

The local press reported in July that foreigners are interested in buying 2,300 hectares (5,700 acres) of land in Fljot, Skagafjorour in northern Iceland, adding to several plots that they already own.

“It revolves around how we look at our land; the land as a resource and the land as part of our sovereignty,” Jakobsdottir said.

Iceland is considering setting limits on the size and number of plots of land belonging to each party, or imposing stricter limits on land purchases by citizens outside the European Economic Area, a free-trade zone linked with the European Union.

The country can already block purchases by non-Europeans. Back in 2012, Iceland prevented Chinese billionaire Huang Nubo from buying a 300-square-kilometer piece of land in the north of the country.

Local farmers are also less than enamored with the idea of having foreigners as their neighbors. British billionaire Jim Ratcliffe and his associates own a total of 39 sites that are rich with fishing rivers. “They say they want to protect the salmon, but that’s not a very believable explanation,” farmer Aevar Rafn Marinosson, who is Ratcliffe’s neighbor, told Bloomberg.

Only 0.1 percent of land in Iceland is owned by foreigners. However, corporations own 27.9 percent, and the country doesn’t report which nationalities are behind these corporations.
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‘Defend the nation’s sovereignty’: Iceland wants to stop foreign land ownership
Published time: 1 Aug, 2018 11:11

Iceland is considering a law to ban foreigners from buying its land. The country’s authorities and local residents are concerned about how such land is being used.

“First and foremost, I want to defend the nation’s sovereignty,” Iceland’s first environmentalist prime minister, Katrin Jakobsdottir, told Bloomberg. “It matters to us that we can decide how the land is developed and utilized.”

The local press reported in July that foreigners are interested in buying 2,300 hectares (5,700 acres) of land in Fljot, Skagafjorour in northern Iceland, adding to several plots that they already own.

“It revolves around how we look at our land; the land as a resource and the land as part of our sovereignty,” Jakobsdottir said.

Iceland is considering setting limits on the size and number of plots of land belonging to each party, or imposing stricter limits on land purchases by citizens outside the European Economic Area, a free-trade zone linked with the European Union.

The country can already block purchases by non-Europeans. Back in 2012, Iceland prevented Chinese billionaire Huang Nubo from buying a 300-square-kilometer piece of land in the north of the country.

Local farmers are also less than enamored with the idea of having foreigners as their neighbors. British billionaire Jim Ratcliffe and his associates own a total of 39 sites that are rich with fishing rivers. “They say they want to protect the salmon, but that’s not a very believable explanation,” farmer Aevar Rafn Marinosson, who is Ratcliffe’s neighbor, told Bloomberg.

Only 0.1 percent of land in Iceland is owned by foreigners. However, corporations own 27.9 percent, and the country doesn’t report which nationalities are behind these corporations.
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Here we go again with the laughable idea that a natural formation which never had an original owner can be the property of an individual human. Its just so stupid.

Lets say we find a twin of the Earth one day with no intelligent beings on it and its possible for us to get there, who is going to buy the first land there and who's he going to buy it from?

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Here we go again with the laughable idea that a natural formation which never had an original owner can be the property of an individual human. Its just so stupid.

Lets say we find a twin of the Earth one day with no intelligent beings on it and its possible for us to get there, who is going to buy the first land there and who's he going to buy it from?
well imo there is a big difference between people whose ancesters have lived on the land for centuries, who wish to continue living on the land and managing it sustainably and big money investors looking to exploit land as an investment who don't care if land is denatured or depopulated as long as they have somewhere to store value to protect their ill gotten gains
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