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Old 29-01-2015, 10:56 PM   #61
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Libya is run by radicals,Syria and Iraq are run by radicals.
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Old 29-01-2015, 11:08 PM   #62
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Default Disagreements over Netanyahu's Fear to "etaliate"

Originally Posted by YNETNews
Lieberman locks horns with Netanyahu over Lebanon response
Foreign minister slams PM's decision not to further respond to Hezbollah attack, saying that 'containing' attack would mean allowing Hezbollah to build its strength on Israel's border with Syria as well.

Moran Azulay
Published: 01.29.15, 21:20 / Israel News

Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman slammed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's decision not to further response to the Hezbollah attack that claimed the lives of two IDF soldiers, saying on Thursday that "'containing' the incident means that Israel is accepting these 'rules of the game' and their cost. This causes serious damage to Israel's deterrence."

The Yisrael Beytenu leader said it was time to "take the gloves off" when dealing with terror organization. Lieberman on Wednesday called for a "non-proportional response" to the attack, which also saw 7 soldiers wounded.

In response the Likud said "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu manages Israel's security policy together with the defense minister and IDF chief of staff and is not influenced by irresponsible suggestions."

"Such issues are discussed far away from the public's eye, and certainly not on Facebook," a statement from the party said.

According to Lieberman, Israel is allowing Hezbollah to dictate the events: "Those who say we need to 'contain' the incident and wait are saying that in actuality, Israel is allowing Hezbollah to build its strength on our border with Syria as well and bring terrorists and large amounts of deadly weapons (there) so they can act against us from there at any given moment," he wrote Thursday on his Facebook page.

Operation Protective Edge in Gaza, he said, was the exact opposite example of how to achieve and maintain deterrence against terror organizations. "It was just this week that we saw the rocket experiments Hamas held, and in the weeks before that we saw the Hamas parades in which they presented the advanced weapons they're building to use against Israel. This is not deterrence, it's turning a blind eye.

"It was exactly this result that I objected to during Protective Edge and today we see how after years that Hezbollah was truly deterred because of the blow it suffered from Israel in the Second Lebanon War, now there are cracks in this deterrence because of what Hezbollah saw happening in Protective Edge," Lieberman added.

He warned that if Israel fails to respond to the attack properly now, “this perception will only grow stronger and becomes rooted for the terror organizations that Israel doesn’t act decisively against terrorism. Even they know that words and declarations do not defeat terrorism, only strong and decisive action that causes the infrastructure of terror to crumble.

“A ‘proportional response according to the rules of the game’ is exactly what the terrorists want, because it drags us into a war of attrition and perpetuates the conflict. A ‘proportional’ response means the leaders of the terror organizations know they have immunity, that they are not going to be overthrown, that we’re not hurting their armament, that we allow them to continue recruiting and training new terrorists. This is what is happening in Gaza today and it’s only a matter of time until they use all of these capabilities and drag Israel into another military operation, at a time of their convenience.”

Lieberman noted that on Wednesday, Israel was forced to once again shut down airports – in Haifa and Rosh Pina – close roads and tourist sites and disrupt the daily lives of many Israelis.

Those who want to contain this situation agree to allow terror organizations to hold onto the on-off switch for the daily lives of the citizens of Israel. We must not allow it. The citizens of the south, the citizens of the north and the citizens of Tel Aviv and the center cannot be held hostage to the terrorists’ whims, and neither can the state of Israel. Israel does not have the option of being weak against terror. We must be strong and do whatever is necessary, even if it’s hard, because it later becomes harder.”
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Old 30-01-2015, 12:12 AM   #63
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so what is with israel's "measured response" to hezbolla? in light of israel being the airforce of isis you got to wonder...
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Old 30-01-2015, 01:03 AM   #64
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I heard on world service the other night (before the retaliation) that Iran, who had been in talks with the US, told the US that there would be a strike back, lo and behold the very next day there's a little convenient convoy, I reckon they were sacrifices and we'll hear no more......for the time being.
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Old 30-01-2015, 05:11 AM   #65
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Originally Posted by coooweee View Post
I heard on world service the other night (before the retaliation) that Iran, who had been in talks with the US, told the US that there would be a strike back, lo and behold the very next day there's a little convenient convoy, I reckon they were sacrifices and we'll hear no more......for the time being.
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Old 01-02-2015, 02:11 PM   #66
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"A fourth operation in the Gaza Strip is inevitable, just as a third Lebanon war is inevitable" because of indecisiveness in Israel's response to the Hezbollah attack in Mt. Dov, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman told Ynet on Sunday morning.

The foreign minister said Israel's deterrence has been compromised following the Hezbollah attack last week that left two IDF soldiers dead and 7 others wounded, and what he considered to be an insufficient response from Israel.

"Don't let them tell us stories about how Hamas is begging and they're on their knees. We saw 10 rockets being fired at the sea last week. We see every week how they're rebuilding (their arsenal)," he said.

"There's no doubt the rules of the game have been change, what Hezbollah forced upon us. We don't respond, but rather decide to contain this incident. I think that's completely unreasonable. Hezbollah is bolder, more determined, more provocative. This is a precedent that everyone's following, they're following our response or lack thereof," Lieberman went on to say.

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Default Iran's military elite few miles from Israel's bord

Iran's military elite few miles from Israel's border
Feb 13, 2015 - Fresh Offensive, Hezbollah Troops Fast Approaching Israeli Border From Syrian Side
Fake war treasonous illuminazi agent Nethanyahu vs Hezbollah, Iran
Jan 28, 2015 . Israel strike kills Iranian General: hoax explained for dummies
Same as OJ Simpson 1994: a real killing is used to stage an act of illuminati theater.
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Default Hezbollah, a foe israel CAN'T prepare for

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Looks like they have upset Iran too...And i am sure Israels/natos fellow extremists will benefit most..
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What the Third Lebanon War will look like
The IDF is preparing for the next confrontation with Hezbollah, which was dangerously close to breaking out in the winter, with new tactics, like creation of artificial cliffs to prevent infiltrations.
t's late summer, and all is quiet on the northern front. On the Lebanese side of the border, the extreme heat has driven shepherds and their wards to the shade. Lebanese army and UNIFIL troops take cover at their posts, and Hezbollah's operatives – those who are still in south Lebanon and have not been sent to fight in Syria – collect intelligence on us.

The UN Security Council established after the Second Lebanon War that Hassan Nasrallah's people are forbidden to openly move along the border fence, armed, and provoke Israeli soldiers. They are careful to abide by the rules, but they are here, utilizing all the new technology Iran has provided to ensure that the IDF is not entering Lebanese territory. Meanwhile, they prepare "surprises" to hurt Israel during the next conflict – just like Hamas in Gaza.

While Hezbollah is deeply submerged in the Syrian quagmire, and despite a substantial interest in avoiding confrontation with Israel, over the past year the organization's leadership has been preparing for the Third Lebanon War as though it will begin tomorrow. This derives mainly from a decision by Nasrallah and members of Iran's Quds Force about a year ago to change the strategy towards Israel.

This strategy is aimed at deterring Israel from pinpoint actions the IDF occasionally takes to foil terrorism and strengthening of Hezbollah (known in the IDF as a battle between the wars). Fighting Israel provides Hezbollah with the legitimacy it needs to arm itself in Lebanon and battle in Syria.

It was hence decided to treat Lebanon and Syria as a single front against Israel and to respond to any significant attacks attributed to the IDF, even if the result is escalation that leads to destruction and many casualties on both sides.

This almost happened in January. An airstrike on senior Hezbollah field commanders, which killed Jihad Mughniyeh and several others, including an Iranian general, was attributed by Hezbollah and Iran to Israel. According to evidence on the ground and intelligence information, a decision was made to carry out a retaliatory attack.

The IDF and Hezbollah both prepared for the possibility that this response could spark a larger conflagration. Major General Aviv Kokhabi, head of the IDF's Northern Command, was in the middle of preparing orders for a possible counterattack when news broke of Hezbollah's retaliation. The organization fired anti-tank missiles from Lebanon at an IDF convoy on its way to Mount Dov, killing two Givati soldiers. Thanks to troops' alertness and speed, much greater loss of life was prevented.

The leadership on both sides could therefore decide that the account was more or less settled. But only a minority of the Israeli public realizes how close we were at noon on January 28, 2015 to the outbreak of the Third Lebanon War.

Under these circumstances, it's only natural that the commander of the IDF's Sword Battalion, Colonel Alon Madanes, considers the Lebanese border to be a front that is currently quiet, but could boil over within hours. Madanes and his battalion are responsible for the western sector of the border area, which contains 165,000 residents in 55 towns.

As we drove along the border fence, I realize that he and the entire Northern Command are preparing for a Third Lebanon War and are working intensively to prepare offensive and defensive actions.[/quote] http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...700232,00.html
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