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Old 26-10-2009, 07:43 PM   #1
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Just to go on from what GS said in another thread. Lots of interesting things here I'd like to know more about, if you have any beliefs or?

Did Jeremiah, Tea Tephi and/or the Tribe of Dan land on Ireland or elsewhere, with or without the ark and the stone of scone?

Are they the people of danu?

Biblical or other references?

I've found another thread to look at but I'd like to hear p.o.v.

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Just to go on from what GS said in another thread. Lots of interesting things here I'd like to know more about, if you have any beliefs or?

Did Jeremiah, Tea Tephi and/or the Tribe of Dan land on Ireland or elsewhere, with or without the ark and the stone of scone?

Are they the people of danu?

Biblical or other references?

I've found another thread to look at but I'd like to hear p.o.v.

Thanks
Check this out dude


Michael Tsarion discusses the historical significance of ancient Ireland and takes us on a truly fascinating journey through time, from the Emerald Isle to Egypt and back again full circle. Along the way we are introduced to the Druids and also to their destroyers, the Atonists. We discover the origins of the world's most powerful secret societies and the New World Order they labour to create. We discover secret facts about the royal dynasties of Britain and Europe, the Empire of Rome, and about Masonic influence in America. Featuring over 560 illustrations, and rare source material, this series dramatically revolutionizes our view of history and explains what can be done to combat the tyrannical forces that have long conspired to undermine truth, freedom and justice.




http://www.irishoriginsofcivilizatio...ces/trees.html

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lightgiver, unfortunately Michael has made a decision to remove his videos and now sells them on his own website.

http://michaeltsarion.com/

This is a great pity for me because his knowledge and insights hold some of the keys to the true nature of Free Masonrie.

This might help:
To save a lot of time, listen to the interview from 22 minutes down to the end.

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"The Culdean Monks were the tutors to the Kings of the World."

"The Culdee Monks taught the Knights Templar. These families of the highest rank were taught by Irish Christian Monks."
Please do not consider that I reach the same conclusions, in toto, that Michael reaches from his analysis of the history of Ireland but the last 22 minutes are key observations.

Also see here: http://www.irishoriginsofcivilizatio...symbolism.html
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Just to go on from what GS said in another thread. Lots of interesting things here I'd like to know more about, if you have any beliefs or?

Did Jeremiah, Tea Tephi and/or the Tribe of Dan land on Ireland or elsewhere, with or without the ark and the stone of scone?

Are they the people of danu?

Biblical or other references?

I've found another thread to look at but I'd like to hear p.o.v.

Thanks
The Tribe of Dan Exists in Greek Mythology as the "Tribe of Danau or Danai".
Danai''s Ancestral Fathers are Danaus and Aegyptos. By Comparing the Names Jacob and Aegyptos |(Jae'Gyp) > (Jae'Cob) > (Jacob)| - They there the Same, and both are Ancestral Father of the Tribe of Dan.

According to a Legend, Ireland and Scotland were colonized by Egyptians, whom were the Sons of Princess Scota.

The Egyptians established a colony in Ireland . The Egyptologist, Lorraine Evans, 'Kingdom of the Ark', suggests that the colonists were led by Princess Scotia, daughter of Akhenaten and half sister to Tutankhamen. She died in battle and the grave yet today is marked by a slab that has never been excavated. Scotia's descendents went on to become of the High kings of Ireland at TARA in County Meath and then continued on to Scotland which means 'Land of Scotia'.


O-DIN is a title indicative of Kingship or Shepherd lineage. (Also known as WO-DEN, WO-TAN and DAN) ODIN comes from Akhetatens God "Aten".
Tribe of Dan is litterly the Tribe of the god Aten. Aten means Lord, The Judge, The God. and is the same word as Adonai.

Dan
oDIN
lonDON
eDINburgh
eDAN
river DON
DANmark
ScanDINavia
SweDEN
DUNkirk
MaceDONia
DUNdee
aberDEEN
DONcaster

Ireland > Land of Ra
Scotland > Land of Scotia
England > Land of Ankh

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Old 28-10-2009, 03:37 PM   #5
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The Tribe of Dan Exists in Greek Mythology as the "Tribe of Danau or Danai".
Danai''s Ancestral Fathers are Danaus and Aegyptos. By Comparing the Names Jacob and Aegyptos |(Jae'Gyp) > (Jae'Cob) > (Jacob)| - They there the Same, and both are Ancestral Father of the Tribe of Dan.

According to a Legend, Ireland and Scotland were colonized by Egyptians, whom were the Sons of Princess Scota.

The Egyptians established a colony in Ireland . The Egyptologist, Lorraine Evans, 'Kingdom of the Ark', suggests that the colonists were led by Princess Scotia, daughter of Akhenaten and half sister to Tutankhamen. She died in battle and the grave yet today is marked by a slab that has never been excavated. Scotia's descendents went on to become of the High kings of Ireland at TARA in County Meath and then continued on to Scotland which means 'Land of Scotia'.


O-DIN is a title indicative of Kingship or Shepherd lineage. (Also known as WO-DEN, WO-TAN and DAN) ODIN comes from Akhetatens God "Aten".
Tribe of Dan is litterly the Tribe of the god Aten. Aten means Lord, The Judge, The God. and is the same word as Adonai.

Dan
oDIN
lonDON
eDINburgh
eDAN
river DON
DANmark
ScanDINavia
SweDEN
DUNkirk
MaceDONia
DUNdee
aberDEEN
DONcaster

Ireland > Land of Ra
Scotland > Land of Scotia
England > Land of Ankh
According to Richard Oram, professor of medieval history at Stirling University, the story of Scota was a legend invented to demonstrate the supposed superiority of Scottish civilisation. “The English insisted their forebears were Trojans and the Scots wanted to go one better and claim they were descendants of the ancient Egyptians,” he says.

Isn't it rather simplistic to say that names with Dan in them are indicative of the Tribe of Dan? If you have any further information or proof on this it would be interesting to see it.

Can you also let us have your source for the allegation that Aten means Lord, the Judge, The God and is cognate with Hebrew Adonai and the connection with Odin.?

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Check this out dude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPXHJeSnpQI

Michael Tsarion discusses the historical significance of ancient Ireland and takes us on a truly fascinating journey through time, from the Emerald Isle to Egypt and back again full circle. Along the way we are introduced to the Druids and also to their destroyers, the Atonists. We discover the origins of the world's most powerful secret societies and the New World Order they labour to create. We discover secret facts about the royal dynasties of Britain and Europe, the Empire of Rome, and about Masonic influence in America. Featuring over 560 illustrations, and rare source material, this series dramatically revolutionizes our view of history and explains what can be done to combat the tyrannical forces that have long conspired to undermine truth, freedom and justice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUeSsw2Illg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQi4qP59zc0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH8BNL5pLGw

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilizatio...ces/trees.html
Looks like they missed the Tartar connection though.
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Can you also let us have your source for the allegation that Aten means Lord, the Judge, The God and is cognate with Hebrew Adonai and the connection with Odin.?

Thanks.
Adonis was a Phoenician god symbolising vegetation scorched by the heat of the sun

Aten is symbolized with Heat, with Ray expanding from the Sun, One of the rays hold an Ankh that symbolized Vegetation and Life.

Tammuz is the counterparts of Adon, both are Associated with the Sun and Life.

another counterparts is Attis, Consort of the Mother Goddess and a Sun/Vegetation God.

Aten is portrayed as the Giver of Life and the Sun.

The Semetic D and Kemetic T are interchangeable.

Aten is also, commonly paired with Ra, thus called "Aten-Ra"
Adon is also commonly paired with yhwh thus called "Adoni-YHWH"

Also believe that semetic W and kemetic R are also interchangeable.
Ra became Wah > thus yhwh means "I am Ra"
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I clicked on the video link to part one and it said it had been removed.

Here's some that haven't.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/mtsarion.htm

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com.../mtsarion2.htm
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I clicked on the video link to part one and it said it had been removed.

Here's some that haven't.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/mtsarion.htm

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com.../mtsarion2.htm
It appears that way,strange that it was working yesterday

Cheers for link.
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lightgiver, unfortunately Michael has made a decision to remove his videos and now sells them on his own website.

http://michaeltsarion.com/

This is a great pity for me because his knowledge and insights hold some of the keys to the true nature of Free Masonrie.

This might help: http://www.livevideo.com/video/Travi...-intervie.aspx

To save a lot of time, listen to the interview from 22 minutes down to the end.



Please do not consider that I reach the same conclusions, in toto, that Michael reaches from his analysis of the history of Ireland but the last 22 minutes are key observations.

Also see here: http://www.irishoriginsofcivilizatio...symbolism.html
Why indeed,it was working last night,now they have taken it off,yes,WHY?

If he has taken all his vids off then he is a tight mangy git,and I for one am disappointed if this is the case,not everyone out there is loaded.

Cheers for the rest of your FREE info GS

Maybe watch this before this one gets taken off,if you read this website Tsarion,dont be so tight,ever heard of cause and effect,practise what you preach.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9846369098539#

all the best LG

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Looks like they missed the Tartar connection though.
do you mean tartan?

or this,

Tartar may refer to:

An alternate spelling of the name Mongol or their descendants - Tatars, an ethnic group in present-day Russia (this term formerly extended to nearly all Central Asian, Turkic and Mongol ethnic groups)

On tartan,

scroll down on link, about nearly halfway,

http://www.irishoriginsofcivilizatio...ces/trees.html

He walks through the verdant land, across the bridge toward the mount and although we are not consciously aware of it, we are in merry ol' England, not Palestine. We are at Silbury Hill or Glastonbury Tor, not the Sea of Galilee. That, at least, is what the makers of the movie symbolically imply. Interestingly, Ben Hur's cloak has the appearance of Irish or Scottish tartan.

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Cheers for that lightgiver, I've seen it before it's excellent...

THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN THE EARLY IRISH-CELTIC AND THE SECOND CENTURY, B.C., HEBREW- PHOENICIAN LANGUAGE, AS SHOWN BY THE PENULUS OF PLAUTUS:

PHOENICIAN OF PLAUTUS:

Byth lym mo thym nociothii nel ech an ti daisc machon

Ys i do iebrim thyfe lyth chy lya chon temlyph ula.

EARLY IRISH-CELTIC:

Beth liom' mo thime nociaithe, niel ach an ti dairie mae coinne

Is i de leabhraim tafach leith, chi lis con teampluibh ulla.


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This is a great pity for me because his knowledge and insights hold some of the keys to the true nature of Free Masonrie.
I'm of the same opinion GS, not that I know the true nature of Masons. It's taken me down a route to the Franciscans with Luke Wadding. Interestingly the man who gave us modern day St.Patrick (or Ollam Fodhla - The great prophet from the east) is of Jesuit descent and schooling. What is the difference between a Jesuit and a Franciscan... Are Jesuits of a more Intellectual spiritualism lol?

The number of Jesuits in Ireland ebbed and flowed. In 1649 they were 67 including 11 novices. In 1700 they were 6 0r 7. In 1750 they numbered 25. All in around the same sort of time as the questioned by some Battle of the Boyne & the "creation?" of St. Patrick...

I thought Geoffrey Keatings History of Ireland was interesting. It mentions the Seanchas (Memorised history in peoms) from the 6th century and the Battle of Magh Rath:

For when Domhnall was marching against Conghal, king of Ulster, and they were on either side of the river, and when they were in sight of each others host Domhnall asked his seancha to name every one of the standards separately, and its emblem, and the seancha told him what they were, as we read in the poem which begins: Mightily advance the battalions of Conghal, in which is this stanza on the king of Ulster's own emblem:

A yellow lion upon green satin,
The emblem of the Craobh Ruadh,
Such as was held by noble Conchubhar
Conghal now holds.

It is a long time since the Gaels began the practice of having emblems, in imitation of the children of Israel, who employed them in Egypt, in the life-time of Gaedheal, when the children of Israel passed through the Red Sea, with Moses as their chief leader. Now there were twelve tribes of them, and each tribe had a separate division of an army and a separate emblem.

p.125 - p.129.... http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/T100054/text075.html

Their descriptions of the emblems were pretty good too if you have a look...


[QUOTE=herushura;1058370498]The Tribe of Dan Exists in Greek Mythology as the "Tribe of Danau or Danai".
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Not looked into the Greek side at all, thanks...

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Yeah, I read your thread it's great.

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I clicked on the video link to part one and it said it had been removed.

Here's some that haven't.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/mtsarion.htm

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com.../mtsarion2.htm
Me too, cheers... going to watch it again.
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The tribe of Dan, a serpent on its standard as an emblem;

St Patrick drove the serpents (Druids) out of Ireland. What actually happened was that he converted many of them to Celtic Jonannine Christianity, free from Rome, incorporporating many of their beliefs.
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Chapter 7 - The Johannine Tradition

Shows that Celtic Christianity was pre-Roman in origin. Demonstrates that the breach between the Roman and Celtic Churches was no accident. Dates that schism to the hereticization of the Briton Pelagius in 418 over his defence of traditional Christianity against the new theology of Augustine of Hippo. Shows that the Celtic churchmen, who justified their customs on the grounds that they were genuinely apostolic, derived from St. John, really were preserving a pre-Roman tradition, and that Bede’s fabricated account of British Christian origins, the Lucius Legend, effectively admits the Celtic case. Suggests that the current orthodoxy, which holds Christianity was brought to Britain by the Roman Empire, is merely a watered-down version of the Roman Church’s own propaganda.

http://www.hereticemperor.co.uk/Syno...apter%207.html http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1248344

Francis Rolt-Wheeler also observes a nexus between the Celtic Grail mythos and the Knights Templar: "Many passages in the Legends of the Round Table show a parallelism with the Knights Templar, even as the Divine Comedy of Dante is mainly an esoteric study of the Religions of the Light....The symbol of Light was an accepted proof of heresy. It was also an accepted symbol of opposition to the Roman Church.

http://www.sacredconnections.co.uk/h.../johannine.htm

..There is a Nosairi prayer, 'Deliver us from these human forms and reclothe us in light among the stars.'

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/dann2.html

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Here follows the seanchas account of the emblems of the children of Israel, as we read in the old Book of Leacaoin, in Urmhumha, and in many other old books, in the poem below:

I know each great ensign
That the proud children of Jacob had,
Few are the people thereafter
Who know their names.

...mentions other tribes

The tribe of Dan, stubborn the race,
A venemous family of a sinister house,
Powerful to strike back, as it implies,
Like a great serpent, its ensign.

...mentioins other tribes

I have enumerated their tribes above,
I have enumerated their ensigns;
The enumeration of the abodes of the spirited tribes,
How many men are ignorant of? I know.


Just to throw a spanner in... where does The tribe of Levi fit in all of this?

Edit: Just worked out Jeremiah was from Levi and so the Orange Order link properly falls into place. I thought Jeremiah was of Dan (still learning )

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Chapter 7 - The Johannine Tradition

Shows that Celtic Christianity was pre-Roman in origin. Demonstrates that the breach between the Roman and Celtic Churches was no accident. Dates that schism to the hereticization of the Briton Pelagius in 418 over his defence of traditional Christianity against the new theology of Augustine of Hippo. Shows that the Celtic churchmen, who justified their customs on the grounds that they were genuinely apostolic, derived from St. John, really were preserving a pre-Roman tradition, and that Bede’s fabricated account of British Christian origins, the Lucius Legend, effectively admits the Celtic case. Suggests that the current orthodoxy, which holds Christianity was brought to Britain by the Roman Empire, is merely a watered-down version of the Roman Church’s own propaganda.

http://www.hereticemperor.co.uk/Syno...apter%207.html

Would that contradict with what GS said considering St Patrick was sent back to Ireland by Pope Celstine I ?
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Also I really do not know what to make of this,I am sure there is some truth in it,

"The Curse of Canaan" is an interesting book along with its mate World Order by Eustice Mullins. One of the books which I looked with difficulty for before finding it, was Gerald Massey’s A Book of the Beginning (Secaucus, NJ: University Books, Inc., 1974.) The book goes in and shows in detail how the inhabitants of the British Isles came originally from Egypt. This is Important because (as this newsletter has always contended) the Druidism of the British Isles was simply a derivative from the Egyptian Satanic witchcraft/magic of Ancient Egypt. The Egyptian word Makhaut (clan or family) became the the Irish Maccu and the Maccu of the Donalds (clan of Donalds) now reflected in the name MacDonald. The sacred keepers of the Clan-Stone in Arran, were also known by the family name of Clan-Chattons. Another word for clan is Mack and the Clan-Chattons were also known as Mack-Intosh. Ptah-rekh the name of the Egyptian god Ptah was passed down to us by the Druids adopting the name Patrick, which sounded similar. St. Patricks day then is a Christianized form of a druidic holiday which originally had its origins in Egypt. The All-Seeing Eye can be found on ancient buildings in ancient Chaldea, in ancient Greece, and in ancient Egypt. The MI-seeing eye represents Osirus. Osirus had debauched revelries (saturualias) celebrated in his honor. The temples in Arabia clear back in the time that Moses had his black father-in-law Jethro used the all-seeing-eye to represent the false satanic trinity of Osiris, Isis and Horus of Egypt. This MI-Seeing Eye pops up everywhere the Illuminati has been. In the Winter Palace Square in St. Petersburg, Russia is that Illuminati all-seeing eye on top of a pyramid. You will also see it in the old Mexican Senate Buildlng which is now a museum in Mexico City. You will find this on the back of our one dollar bill, and you will find the all-seeing eye was placed on Ethopian stamps when they got a communist government in power.

The Illuminati is the continuation of the Mystery Religions of Babylon and Egypt. And the bloodlines of the Illuminati go back to people who at one time lived in Babylon and Egypt. Just how the House of David (the Satanic one) and the Holy Blood of the 13th family fit in with everything else in history I can’t say. I’m sure It would be a big story to tell If I knew. But I do feel that somehow the 13th Illuminati family does goes back to ancient times. Is this via the Tribe of Dan or via some Druidic bloodline or is it via the Merovingians or is it via all three’ And where do the Guelphs and Black Nobility fit Into this? Whatever the case, the 13th bloodline has amassed a great deal of power and wealth on this planet. The 13th bloodlIne lacks nothing to bring forth their Anti-Christ who will appear to have all the correct credentials. I would not even be surprised if their Anti-Christ in order to appear real will expose another Anti-Christ. The 13th bloodline has kept its geneologies very secret. I would welcome more Input from informed persons about this bloodline. The tribe of Dan was prophesied to be the black sheep of the nation of Israel which would bite the other tribes of Israel. The tribe of Dan had the snake and the eagle as its two logos. The tribe of Dan left its cailing card all over Europe as it migrated west in the names of many places. The tribe of Dan ruled the Greeks, the Roman Empire, the Austro-Hungarian empire and many others which used the eagle as its logo.

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/blood...erovingian.htm

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Would that contradict with what GS said considering St Patrick was sent back to Ireland by Pope Celstine I ?
Not really. The Church in Rome was struggling with a number of major issues, not least of which was the very nature of Jesus Christ, and also the issue of Palagianism.

St Patrick was sent back to Ireland because of his credibility and status with the Celtish people (ecclesiastical and royal) and in order to preach the orthodox Christian doctrine of The New Testament.

The immediate problem and urgent choice was Christianity or a return to Paganism, not the Apostacy.
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Michael Tsarion - The Irish Origins Of Civilization Excerpts
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Full 10 hour DVD Series available from: irishoriginsofcivilization.com In his companion DVD Series to The Irish Origins of Civilization (Volumes 1 and 2), Michael Tsarion discusses the historical significance of ancient Ireland and takes us on a truly fascinating journey through time, from the Emerald Isle to Egypt and back again full circle. Along the way we are introduced to the Druids and also to their destroyers, the Atonists. We discover the origins of the world's most powerful secret societies and the New World Order they labor to create.

We discover secret facts about the royal dynasties of Britain and Europe, the Empire of Rome, and about Masonic influence in America. Featuring over 560 illustrations, and rare source material, this DVD series dramatically revolutionizes our view of history and explains what can be done to combat the tyrannical forces that have long conspired to undermine truth, freedom and justice. (Volumes 1 and 2), Michael Tsarion discusses the historical significance of ancient Ireland and takes us on a truly fascinating journey through time, from the Emerald Isle to Egypt and back again full circle.

Along the way we are introduced to the Druids and also to their destroyers, the Atonists. We discover the origins of the world's most powerful secret societies and the New World Order they labor to create. We discover secret facts about the royal dynasties of Britain and Europe, the Empire of Rome, and about Masonic influence in America.

Featuring over 560 illustrations, and rare source material, this DVD series dramatically revolutionizes our view of history and explains what can be done to combat the tyrannical forces that have long conspired to undermine truth, freedom and justice.
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Old 29-10-2009, 01:05 PM   #20
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I've read of the Tribe of Dan connection with Ireland a while back on another website. It was quite interesting, it made the bridge between the harp and the celtic imagery with ancient Israel.
I'll check out the excerps from MT you've posted.
Although he sometimes gets a bit over-excited and carried away with some small details he does a good job of engaging the viewer.
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