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Old 02-10-2013, 06:51 PM   #41
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Given that I've read Magick in Theory and Practice several times, and have spoken to more than a few Thelemites over the years, I'm well aware of the nature of this nasty little fat pervert druggie without sitting through a two hour "documentary" on him.
ah, yes ... read one of his great many books and talked to a few people.
gee, you must know EVERYTHING about crowley.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:54 PM   #42
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ah, yes ... read one of his great many books and talked to a few people.
gee, you must know EVERYTHING about crowley.
It would seems that way.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:58 PM   #43
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aleister crowley is probably the most wrongly vilified man of the last two centuries.
The top ten failed lies about crowley are:

10. Myth: Aleister Crowley was a black magician.
9. Myth: Aleister Crowley advocated pedophilia.
8. Myth: Aleister Crowley died alone in poverty.
7. Myth: Aleister Crowley advocated rape.
6. Myth: Aleister Crowley was a drug addict and a failure.
5. Myth: Aleister Crowley worked for the Nazis.
4. Myth: Aleister Crowley sacrificed male children:
and three more lies.

wanna know the truth, check here:
http://ac2012.com/2011/12/20/aleiste...-myths-busted/

if not, you may continue to wallow in ignorance ...
I read quotes from this guy. He was more spiritually aware than most people. He had great spiritual knowledge and wisdom.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:00 PM   #44
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33rd degree freemason & member of the O.T.O who did take part in rituals. I've heard he ate fecal matter in some (plus rumours about kids) and so on. That said he did suffer a brain injury when he was young, so maybe that screwed him up but doesn't excuse what he did

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:01 PM   #45
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It would seems that way.
Bless. I don't jump through all the (open-ended number of) hoops you want (despite knowing quite a bit about Crowley, his practices, his life and his followers) so what I say is invalid.

If people want to understand Crowley, read his books and look at his life, but don't fall for Thelemite-friendly bullshit that wants to rewrite history on this foul little crud of a man.
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If people want to understand Crowley, read his bookS...
good idea. you should follow your own advice.
you have read one of his books, and have based your knowledge on hearsay.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:08 PM   #47
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Give me fucking strength...... Well if Icke thinks he's "evil".... Thats that then.
Enjoy an eternity of ignorance. Rest at ease in the knowledge (no pun intended) that you needn't burden your brain any further. Enjoy the warm fuzzy comfort of another mans opinions without the need to open a book by anyone else.

Satanism and evil is starting to sound a better option. HAIL SATAN!

Thank you for posting this. It has saved me the effort of writing something similar.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:17 PM   #48
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Bless. I don't jump through all the (open-ended number of) hoops you want (despite knowing quite a bit about Crowley, his practices, his life and his followers) so what I say is invalid.
Is what I say invalid?
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If people want to understand Crowley, read his books and look at his life, but don't fall for Thelemite-friendly bullshit that wants to rewrite history on this foul little crud of a man.
I am reading his books and looking at his life. At what point did we go our separate ways, in the understandings of it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:21 PM   #49
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I am reading his books and looking at his life. At what point did we go our separate ways, in the understandings of it.
No idea. Maybe the point where I actually looked at his life and spoke with people (supporters of his) who actually researched it and realised what his books promote. Or do I have to recite Leah Sublime and sign off with 3 93s before you believe me.

As I said:

Read his books. They promote atomism and decry shared morality - "every man and every woman is a star.....There are no “standards of Right”. Ethics is balderdash. Each Star must go on its own orbit. To hell with “moral principle”; there is no such thing."

Look at his life. A life of drug-addled promiscuity at the "abbey" (lmao) of Thelema (in reality a shack).

Look at his old age. He died lonely and broken in the same way that so many people do who live by his "values".

Nasty fat drug addled pervert who is best avoided.

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:25 PM   #50
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My, oh, my.....Bikerdruid you've done it now!
Joking on the side, I have to be honest and say it makes me deeply sad to read such bullshit about one of the greatest minds ever.
And it makes me livid to read "Icke says he's evil, so....".
Icke knows shit about Crowley, and I doubt he's read any of his books, just like the ignorant lot here who keep talking bullshit.
Not one of them stopped to think about when Crowley lived, what kind of society he had to put up with, and being the guy who openly wrote and published "big secrets" and told people to think for themselves - well, he pissed people off and they made sure bad image sticks to him.
Incidentaly, doesn't that ring a bell? Didn't the same thing happen to Icke for precisely the same reasons?
I respect both Crowley and Icke, but I would give an advice to Icke to go and read some Crowley, and then blush in embarrasment for slacking him off.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:32 PM   #51
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No idea. Maybe the point where I actually looked at his life and spoke with people (supporters of his) who actually researched it and realised what his books promote. Or do I have to recite Leah Sublime and sign off with 3 93s before you believe me.

As I said:

Read his books. They promote atomism and decry shared morality - "every man and every woman is a star.....There are no “standards of Right”. Ethics is balderdash. Each Star must go on its own orbit. To hell with “moral principle”; there is no such thing."

Look at his life. A life of drug-addled promiscuity at the "abbey" (lmao) of Thelema (in reality a shack).

Look at his old age. He died lonely and broken in the same way that so many people do who live by his "values".

Nasty fat drug addled pervert who is best avoided.
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good idea. you should follow your own advice.
you have read one of his books, and have based your knowledge on hearsay.


Now do you have ANY Proof to dispute the statements with this quote?

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aleister crowley is probably the most wrongly vilified man of the last two centuries.
The top ten failed lies about crowley are:

10. Myth: Aleister Crowley was a black magician.
9. Myth: Aleister Crowley advocated pedophilia.
8. Myth: Aleister Crowley died alone in poverty.
7. Myth: Aleister Crowley advocated rape.
6. Myth: Aleister Crowley was a drug addict and a failure.
5. Myth: Aleister Crowley worked for the Nazis.
4. Myth: Aleister Crowley sacrificed male children:
and three more lies.

wanna know the truth, check here:
http://ac2012.com/2011/12/20/aleister-crowley-myths-busted/

if not, you may continue to wallow in ignorance ...
Or are you going to continue to just profess your dislike for the man?
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:36 PM   #52
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I see Aiwass hasn't made it onto the top 10? So Crowley did communicate with this entity then?

Crowley also eventually came to view Aiwass as his own Holy Guardian Angel.

AIWASS- An alleged superhuman intelligence contacted by Aleister Crowley in 1904, Aiwass dictated to Crowley a work called “Liber AL,” or “Book of the Law,” which prophesied wars and revolutions leading to the collapse of Christian civilizations and the dawn of the Aeon of Horus. Liber AL also proclaims the Law of Thelema, usually summed up in three mantra-like aphorisms: “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law,” “Love is the law, love under will,” and “Every man and every woman is a star.”

According to former Crowley student Dr. Isreal Regardie, a Reichian psychotherapist and occultist, Aiwass represented the deepest, most abysmal part of Crowley’s own mind, which is common to all life, mammal, insect, and all, deeper than either Freudian or Jungian unconcscious. According to another Crowley student, Kenneth Grant, Aiwass is an extraterrestrial from Sirius.



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Now do you have ANY Proof to dispute the statements with this quote?
Have I commented on them. In my experience many look like strawmen points to make Crowley seem "misunderstood". He wasn't misunderstood. He was a waste of DNA wanker.
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When did he do this?
It was standard green party policy.
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Have I commented on them. In my experience many look like strawmen points to make Crowley seem "misunderstood". He wasn't misunderstood. He was a waste of DNA wanker.
And that's all you've done, was to just "commented on them". Show us the "strawmen points" to make Crowley seem "misunderstood"?

Now do you have ANY Proof to dispute the statements within the O.P. Post?

Or are you going to continue to just profess your dislike for the man?
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It was standard green party policy.
Show me proof where David Icke, advocated it.
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My, oh, my.....Bikerdruid you've done it now!
Joking on the side, I have to be honest and say it makes me deeply sad to read such bullshit about one of the greatest minds ever.
And it makes me livid to read "Icke says he's evil, so....".
Icke knows shit about Crowley, and I doubt he's read any of his books, just like the ignorant lot here who keep talking bullshit.
Not one of them stopped to think about when Crowley lived, what kind of society he had to put up with, and being the guy who openly wrote and published "big secrets" and told people to think for themselves - well, he pissed people off and they made sure bad image sticks to him.
Incidentaly, doesn't that ring a bell? Didn't the same thing happen to Icke for precisely the same reasons?
I respect both Crowley and Icke, but I would give an advice to Icke to go and read some Crowley, and then blush in embarrasment for slacking him off.
great post.
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Search pics of crowley and he can be seen wearing the same outfits as jimmy saville who we all know is a peodo,coincidence , i think not... crowely mixed in the same circles as saville and both were members of the golden dawn..
please tell us more about the outfits that pedos wear .. wow.
and saville in the golden dawn?? not a fucking chance.
where did you dig this crap up?
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What a load of bs.
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How can anyone hate this thread I'm laughing and choking on popcorn!

This is a giggle Aleister Crowley Murdered The Victims Of The Curse Of Tutankhamun

http://merovee.wordpress.com/2011/11...f-tutankhamun/

He'd have loved his 2013 reputation!
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