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Old 03-10-2017, 09:07 PM   #61
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Exactly, in the same way nature is corrupt and imperfect so too the creator god. As above so below.
So why is nature corrupt?

If you can judge things as corrupt then you must know what perfection is. What is perfection?
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:54 PM   #62
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So why is nature corrupt?

If you can judge things as corrupt then you must know what perfection is. What is perfection?
One is perfection. Two, not so much.
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Old 06-10-2017, 01:37 PM   #63
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One is perfection. Two, not so much.
And why not?

Just sounds like an opinion to me.

Defining perfection as one is really lame. What are its attributes? do you see yourself as perfect?

In reality is there really such a thing as perfection or is it a man made concept?
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Old 06-10-2017, 04:55 PM   #64
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Exactly, in the same way nature is corrupt and imperfect so too the creator god. As above so below.
The animal kingdom is on a different level of consciousness, humans have the ability of choice, thus have the ability to be good or bad, summer or winter, night or day, I'm sure you get my drift here.

Nature follows the seasons and always has and still does unaltered.
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The animal kingdom is on a different level of consciousness, humans have the ability of choice, thus have the ability to be good or bad, summer or winter, night or day, I'm sure you get my drift here.

Nature follows the seasons and always has and still does unaltered.
Yes I follow. But if nature was something approaching perfection, then surely nothing would have to die so that something else could live?

If nature was perfect there would be 'free energy' for all, no?
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And why not?

Just sounds like an opinion to me.
It is of course just my opinion, what else would it be? Divine revelation??

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Defining perfection as one is really lame. What are its attributes?
I think the attributes would align quite well with this list... love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.

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do you see yourself as perfect?
Perfect potential, maybe.

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In reality is there really such a thing as perfection or is it a man made concept?
In this reality no. In the 'real' reality yes.
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Yes I follow. But if nature was something approaching perfection, then surely nothing would have to die so that something else could live?

If nature was perfect there would be 'free energy' for all, no?
Again we need to look at it using the two diferent levels of consciousness that exist.

Nature actually does recieve everything it needs to survive, fertility, sunlight, food, and the seasons to keep it in check, or regulated, humans once lived this way but their higher level of consciousness enabled their minds through our sciences to overcome nature and the seasons, or as I call it Eden.

When we did this we left Eden and the higher intellect took over and still rule us today, and nature still lives on the cusp but controlled by the sun and the earths positioning around it..

We could easily become even with nature like it was but our numbers would be a fraction of what we are today, as it was in the beginning.

But as we are we are now gearing up to destroy everything we made and what we have using the same technology, it will come very fast indeed, we can't stop it only prepare for it as the venerable Alan Watt says.

Prepare not position BTW.

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Old 07-10-2017, 12:40 AM   #68
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Again we need to look at it using the two diferent levels of consciousness that exist.

Nature actually does recieve everything it needs to survive, fertility, sunlight, food, and the seasons to keep it in check, or regulated, humans once lived this way but their higher level of consciousness enabled their minds through our sciences to overcome nature and the seasons, or as I call it Eden.
Greetings.

Our earth (Eden) as a soul, just like the Sun as a soul, they are connected with our consciousness (humans & livings), we are sharing the same consciousness collectively, you can't hide yourself from this connection. These higher souls who are a part of the existing 'core of consciousness' , already knows everything about you.

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But as we are we are now gearing up to destroy everything we made and what we have using the same technology, it will come very fast indeed, we can't stop it only prepare for it as the venerable Alan Watt says.
Please tell me, what happened to the ancient civilizations?
When the earth will freeze again from pole to pole?
Tell me, who control the wrath and judgement on Eden?
Tell me, where are the demigods who once served the wonders? What happened to their knowledge, technologies?
Tell me that they NEVER flirted with Evil once?

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Greetings.

Our earth (Eden) as a soul, just like the Sun as a soul, they are connected with our consciousness (humans & livings), we are sharing the same consciousness collectively, you can't hide yourself from this connection. These higher souls who are a part of the existing 'core of consciousness' , already knows everything about you.

Please tell me, what happened to the ancient civilizations?
When the earth will freeze again from pole to pole?
Tell me, who control the wrath and judgement on Eden?
Tell me, where are the demigods who once served the wonders? What happened to their knowledge, technologies?
Tell me that they NEVER flirted with Evil once?
Our very being is due to the earth sciences true, this is the only attribute we cannot alter, I will go for the old mind soul union in relation with our cycles under the sun, because we can all still see or witness this outside of religion or fable/parable.

I think that we did live on a much more stable planet at one time where we had a bounty all year round, Robert Taylor touches on this in his book The Devils Pulpit in quite some detail.
He mentions how humans of every climb and ever age were taken down a certain path becuase of cyclical nature, and where the ecliptic once languished and will again, IE, the equinoxes are currently decreasing by .78 min every 100 years when measured at the Autumnal Equinox, but he also says there will be a merging of the two upon the equator, now we don;t know that the earth tilts wil stop at min of 22.1 degrees.

If he is correct and we do get this scenario there will be no life at either pole which will be totally dissasterous for the majority of life on the planet, this we know did happen as 40,000 to 100,000 year ice ages.

Right now about 85 percent of the food is grown in a bank that spans the Northern Hemisphere, if this is too cold to germinate food in the soil which is still our main staple then all life will have no choice but to move towards the equator where there will only be a small window where there is viable land.

Make one think does'nt it.
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