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Old 31-05-2015, 08:23 PM   #81
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I can't believe I'm alone in not having a clue wtf markgobell is getting at with these posts.
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Old 31-05-2015, 08:39 PM   #82
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Europe: The Final Countdown and David & Samantha Cameron






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Old 31-05-2015, 09:25 PM   #83
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Europe: The Final Countdown and Adolf Hitler





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Old 01-06-2015, 09:25 PM   #84
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I am really thick when it comes to maths but couldn't another mathematician do this but go down another track? On countdown they get a total to get to don't they? And they all get to it in different ways. I'm trying to be serious here and not sarcastic or disagreeable. So if you wanted to, could you turn these equations positive? There is the number of the beast but is there a number of a great angel who could come down and make everything nice?
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Jed Allen and The Collection


Alleged news about another "violent video", allegedly watched by Jed Allen has "emerged".


From whom this "news" has "emerged" is not known.

If it's the police, who are reported as not being in a position to discuss possible motives, but clearly are in a position to feed the media "details" about Jed Allen's alleged viewing habits.


One can only speculate why that would be ...


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The Mirror - Jed Allen: Wolverine killer's family suffered multiple stab wounds during brutal murders

12:50, 27 May 2015
By Andy Lines


The troubled 21-year-old stabbed his step-dad Philip Howard, 44, to death along with his mother and sister in Didcot last weekend

The family of Wolverine killer Jed Allen suffered multiple stab wounds during their horrific murders at home, it emerged today.

Police have confirmed that Didcot murder victims Jan Jordon and Philip Howard died from multiple stab wounds.

The post mortems on the couple were finished this morning. Tests on their six-year-old daughter Derin Jordon were also completed but she has not been formally identified yet.

A post-mortem on the “Wolverine killer” Jed Allen, 21, is expected to take place later this week.

Today, Mr Howard's children, who have not been named, wrote a touching personal tribute.

They said: “Take care of our sister Dezzy up there Daddy, Take care of Jan too.

"We wish you didn't have to go Daddy, it's our worst nightmare come true.

"We are taking care of Tetley Daddy, Uncle Andy too. You were the best there ever was Daddy. We're so glad to be part of you”.

Philip, 44, was killed along with his partner Jan Jordon, 48 and their six-year-old daughter Derin.

It emerged today Allen watched violent videos in the weeks before he murdered his family including one about a serial killer.

The 21-year-old watched gruesome film The Collection, which features a maniac killing people with a blade.

The X Men fanatic also researched how to handle knives, the Sun reported, and watched clips about a knife store in America.

Allen's mum, Janet Jordon, 48, her partner, Philip Howard, 44, and Allen’s half-sister Derin, six, were all found dead in Didcot on Saturday.

It also emerged last night that he texted friends begging them to take care of his pet dog after murdering his family.

The killer, 21, asked pals to take care of his Jack Russell dog,Tetley, but made no direct mention of having stabbed his mum, her partner and his six-year-old half sister, they told The Sun.

The X Men fanatic’s message to seven friends only hinted at the massacre at the family home in Didcot, Oxfordshire, where the dog was found alive.

Derin Jordon seen on Janet Jordon's Facebook page

He told friends in a message sent around 7.30pm on Saturday: “Tetley has not done anything wrong. He deserves a better life. I know what I have done is wrong but I love you all and I will soon be in a better place.”

The former Oxford University groundsman added: “I need your help. I need you to call the police.”

The message was interpeted as a suicide note and sparked a frantic search for Allen with police being alerted at 8.23pm.

Jed Allen in recent social media posts. Appeal to find 'Wolverine fanatic' following Didcot murders
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But by then his mum, Janet Jordon, 48, her partner, Philip Howard, 44, and Allen’s half-sister Derin, six, were dead.

It is thought the killer sent his text from woodland in Oxford moments before killing himself.

The message thanked all seven of his friends individually for their loyalty and support. Each was named by Allen and given a personal tribute.

Some had been drinking with him in a bar the evening before when he gave no clues to what he was planning.

Nowhere in the message did he make explicit mention of the murders simply saying: “I have done something bad.”

Killings: Jed Allen and Derin pictured in 2009

It is now thought that a dark family secret drove Allen to knife his three relatives to death.

The troubled 21-year-old council groundsman had told his close pals about the “desperate situation” over a pizza earlier this month.

One friend said: “This was a very dysfunctional family and there were many, many problems. There was a particular specific issue which drove Jed to this.

“It was a desperate situation. But nothing can justify the course of action he took.”

Allen had tried to swear his friends to secrecy over his family situation and sent texts to seven of them hours before killing himself.

In one he admitted that he had done a “bad thing”.

One friend of Allen’s said on Facebook: “Any close friend of Jed’s will tell you that this is totally out of character and that these things never happen without a reason behind them!”

Thames Valley Police said they were not in a position to discuss the possible family motive for the murders.

Allen’s tattooed body was found in woods in north Oxford on Monday.

His alcoholic mother Jan Jordon, 48, her partner Philip Howard, 44, and his six-year-old half-sister Derin were stabbed to death on Saturday at their home in Didcot.

Police took a bloodied knife from the scene and are not looking for anyone else in connection with the killings.

Despite outrage over the murders, some of Allen’s friends have taken to social media to defend him.

Jed Allen with an axe

Frae Elford said: “Jed’s one of the kindest, sweetest guys I know.”

Kira Choat posted: “RIP Jed, you were an amazing friend. You always put others first.

"You were there for everyone no matter what and you were a truly amazing guy.

“No matter what anyone says we will remember you for being the most happy and loveliest guy, you will be missed.”

Hours before he killed his family, Allen was in the Royal Oak pub – about a mile from their home.

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One local said: “He wasn’t a big drinker at all. He just drank some lagers and left early evening.

"As usual he was no trouble at all. He never caused any problems.”

Throughout the town of Didcot, locals pinned colourful ribbons to lamp-posts in memory of the dead.

But many people there, horrified at the murders, called for Allen to “rot in hell”.

One, Sarah Phillips, said: “No excuse in the world for killing someone, especially family.”

Postmortem results should be revealed tomorrow.

Derrin Jordan, aged six, from Didcot

But police have said they believe all three died from stab wounds.

Allen was a bodybuilding enthusiast, who was obsessed with the X-Men character Wolverine.

Several photos on an online account show him posing with blades between his fingers, imitating the Marvel comic hero’s razor claws.

In one Instagram shot, he glares menacingly, while wielding an axe.

In another, he shows off a large hunting-style knife with the caption “today’s purchases”.

Allen told friends he felt his life was going backwards and that he was depressed.

Jed Allen

He also claimed he was treated like dirt at work and by women.

He is thought to have fled the murder scene and boarded a train to Oxford, sending his last texts to friends after arriving around 6pm, two hours before the three bodies were found

It was thought he then strolled to Oxford University Parks, where he used to work as a groundskeeper.

He was found in the Marston Road area of the city at 5pm on Monday.



And yet, the world has yet to learn of any witnesses actually seeing Jed Allen at any train station or on any train ...

Train times - see Page 1:

Not that it was even possible for anyone to have either boarded a Didcot Parkway to Oxford train at the time stated by police, or to have "caught" a Didcot Parkway to Oxford train at the time stated by poice, which could have arrived at Oxford at the time stated by police ...

All we have been fed is an alleged still from alleged CCTV, allegedly at Oxford, allegedly on the day ...

And some non time stamped video of, allegedly Jed Allen walking down a high street in Oxford, a little later ...

Some sharp eyed CCTV operator on the lookout, no doubt ...


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Note: The US release of "The Collection" film was the day after this happened:


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General Assembly Votes Overwhelmingly to Accord Palestine ‘Non-Member Observer State’ Status in United Nations

29 November 2012

GA/11317


Objective to ‘Breath New Life’ into Peace Process, Says Palestinian President;

Israel’s Delegate Counters, Without Direct Negotiations, Peace Remains ‘Out of Reach’

Voting by an overwhelming majority — 138 in favour to 9 against (Canada, Czech Republic, Israel, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of), Nauru, Panama, Palau, United States), with 41 abstentions — the General Assembly today accorded Palestine non-Member Observer State status in the United Nations.

“The moment has arrived for the world to say clearly: enough of aggression, settlements and occupation,” said Mahmoud Abbas, President of the Palestinian Authority, as he called on the 193-member body to “issue a birth certificate of the reality of the State of Palestine”.


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Old 02-06-2015, 10:58 AM   #86
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What seems more likely? That the police conspired to make the public believe he got on a train that didn't exist, or that someone made a mistake with the time they gave to the press?
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:38 PM   #87
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Jed Allen post mortem

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BiBiC: Didcot killings: Triple murder suspect Jed Allen 'died from hanging'

2 June 2015

A triple murder suspect found dead following a 30-hour manhunt died as a result of hanging, a post-mortem examination has shown.

The body of Jed Allen, 21, was found in woodland in Oxford on 25 May.

It came two days after his six-year-old half sister, his mother and her partner were found dead at their home in Vicarage Road, Didcot.

Janet Jordon, 48, Derrin Jordon, aged six, and Phillip Howard, 44, were stabbed to death.

Inquests into their deaths are due to open on Wednesday.

Thames Valley Police said that a post-mortem examination carried out by a Home Office pathologist gave a provisional cause of death as hanging.

Identification will be formally confirmed by the coroner.



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oxfordmail.co.uk = Update: Triple murder suspect Jed Allen died as a result of hanging, post-mortem reveals


Inquests into the victims of a triple murder in Didcot will open tomorrow

First published 12:56 Tuesday 2 June 2015 Last updated 16:18 Tuesday 2 June 2015 in Oxford Mail:

THE post mortem examination of the body of triple murder suspect Jed Allen, 21, has revealed he died as a result of hanging.

The body of Allen was found in woodland near Marston Ferry Lane on May 25.

Thames Valley Police had been trying to trace Allen after his half-sister Derin Jordon, six, mother Janet Jordon, 48, and Philip Howard, 44, were found dead in their home in Vicarage Road, Didcot on May 23.

TVP spokeswomen Connie Primer confirmed the post mortem for Jed Allen gave a provisional cause of death as hanging.

Oxford Coroner’s Court will open inquests into the deaths of Janet Jordon, Derin Jordon and Philip Howard.

Post-mortem examinations revealed all three died of multiple stab wounds.

A coroner will also open an inquest into the death of Jed Allen, 21, who was the only police suspect in the murder investigation.



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Inquest opens for victime of the Didcot Murders.


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Oxford Coroners Court - Inquest List


Wednesday 3 June 2015

1pm - INQUEST OPENINGS

Philip Howard, aged 44, from Didcot, died 23/05/2015 in Didcot

Janet Jordon, aged 48, from Didcot, died 23/05/2015 in Didcot

Derrin Jordon, aged 6, from Didcot, died 23/05/2015 in Didcot

Jed Allen, aged 21, from Wootton, died 25/05/2015 in Oxford




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Oxford Mail - Didcot triple murder victims found by friend of murder suspect Jed Allen after "concerning text", court hears

Didcot triple murder victims found by friend of murder suspect Jed Allen after

THE victims of last month's triple-murder in Didcot were discovered by a friend of suspect Jed Allen, a coroner's court has heard.

Inquests into the deaths of Philip Howard, 44, Janet Jordon, 48, and Derin Jordon, six, were opened at Oxford Coroner's Court today.

The three were killed on Saturday, May 23 at their home in Vicarage Road, Didcot.

Allen was later found dead in woodland near Marston Ferry Road on Monday, May 25.

Police said it appeared he had died on Saturday, May 23, possibly before a massive police search to find him began.

Det Sgt Ali Driver of Thames Valley Police told the court it was presumed the three were killed at some point during the afternoon of Saturday, May 23.

He said: "The first call to police was on May 23 at 8.22pm.

"It was a call from a friend of Jed Allen who had received a concerning text from Jed and had gone to his house to try to find him.

"Instead he found the body of Philip Howard and called the police."

Officers found Mr Howard downstairs and Ms Jordon and Derin upstairs.

All three had suffered multiple stab wounds.

Ms Jordon and Mr Howard were identified by fingerprint while Derin was identified by her uncle Nick Portnall at the John Radcliffe Hospital.

Dt Sgt Driver said Allen was found hanging in woodland near Marston Ferry Road by dog walkers shortly before 5pm on May 25.

He said: "It is still under some investigation however it would seem quite likely that his death occurred on the May 23 as well."

He added the investigation into the deaths would continue for "a couple of months" as officers attempted to track the movements of all four prior to the murders, as well as trying to establish a motive for the killings.

Oxfordshire Coroner Darren Salter said : "This is obviously a sad and shocking case.

"I send my condolences to the family."

The inquest was adjourned to resume at a date to be set in the future.



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Probably all fake, in order to manufacture news.
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I haven't really followed any of this case but here is a film by Richard D Hall


Full length feature film Didcot Deception

http://www.richplanet.net/starship_m...ref=229&part=2

Only 20 mins in and notice the Home Office Pathologist is the same one that tended to Dr David Kelly describing his death as a 'textbook suicide' which by all accounts it most certainly was not..
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Who does he want to put on trial, bearing in mind the chief and only suspect is dead? What additional avenues is this guy suggesting should be explored? Has he provided any good reason to look beyond what appears to be the obvious here? If he has, I've yet to see it made clear in any posts thus far.


No, I am merely asking what good reason there is not to accept the official story in this specific case. Not the same thing as saying we should believe everything we are told.
I suggest you watch the film and subsequent update and eat your words.

It stinks to high heaven and although Richard has highlighted the fact drug gangs are active in the area and Jed's mother may have been involved, I can't see them taking out a 6 year old in this way plus the media were primed beforehand on Jed...?
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Probably all fake, in order to manufacture news.
One line of conjecture Richard gets right is when he paid a visit to a local high street shop, where said shop keeper says and quote.

I know who the drug dealers are, so why don't the police.
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One line of conjecture Richard gets right is when he paid a visit to a local high street shop, where said shop keeper says and quote.

I know who the drug dealers are, so why don't the police.
Agreed but my point is the media were all over this before any investigation.. It was premeditated media melee imo which suggests it had nothing to do with drug dealers.

Do drug dealers go around murdering whole families including a 6 year old girl?

FOUR 'ordinary working class' people were murdered (I hope to God felixfelix could be right and faked) there is much more to this case..
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Agreed but my point is the media were all over this before any investigation.. It was premeditated media melee imo which suggests it had nothing to do with drug dealers.

Do drug dealers go around murdering whole families including a 6 year old girl?

FOUR 'ordinary working class' people were murdered (I hope to God felixfelix could be right and faked) there is much more to this case..
Faked or not, four are missing, but what if the drug dealers are MI5-6, then we enter different grounds.
One thing I noticed was two of the involved used the same gym.
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Faked or not, four are missing, but what if the drug dealers are MI5-6, then we enter different grounds.
One thing I noticed was two of the involved used the same gym.
Possibly not too many gyms in the area and normally a camaraderie developes at such places?

I would not be surprised if the 'Intelligence' services were somewhere involved but this is quite an incident ?

It was premeditated to murder Jed but why take out the whole family when this would have served as a warning?

Why this family?
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Possibly not too many gyms in the area and normally a camaraderie developes at such places?

I would not be surprised if the 'Intelligence' services were somewhere involved but this is quite an incident ?

It was premeditated to murder Jed but why take out the whole family when this would have served as a warning?

Why this family?
One of the two worked in the city, but no mention of him since.

Also if the drugs connection was involving high level police it could have dire consequences for government and its structure.

If Richards gets too close to any truth we will soon know.
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One of the two worked in the city, but no mention of him since.

Also if the drugs connection was involving high level police it could have dire consequences for government and its structure.

If Richards gets too close to any truth we will soon know.

Yes but they had made arrests and sentenced drug dealers when Scotland Yard got involved before the murders.

There is obviously Police corruption there but what info could they hold what wasn't known by others and why take out the whole family including a Six year old girl.?
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Yes but they had made arrests and sentenced drug dealers when Scotland Yard got involved before the murders.

There is obviously Police corruption there but what info could they hold what wasn't known by others and why take out the whole family including a Six year old girl.?
Because children always tell things as they are.

What if child abuse was on the menus as well.
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