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Old 25-05-2015, 04:27 PM   #1
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Default "Wolverine" - Didcot Murders: 23 May 2015.

"Wolverine" - Didcot Murders: 23 May 2015.

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Another, "social media evidential case" opened and closed ...


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Police are looking for 21 year old, Jed Allen, suspect in the murder of his mother, Janet Jordon, 48, her six-year-old daughter Derrin and her partner Philip Howard, 44, all found dead in their home in Vicarge Road, Didcot, Oxon, on Saturday, 23 May 2015.

Media stories are heavily pushing the "Wolverine" meme, due to photos on Jed Allen's Instagram account ( username of Mr Meat Tank ) and Facebook account.

Jed Allen has been described as a Wolverine obsessed, body builder who had the obligatory, "troubled childhood".

He is said to be an apprentice gardener / groundsman with Didcot Town Council.

Daily Mail: Armed police sealed of Oxford University parks


BiBiC: Didcot killings: Hunt for suspect Jed Allen continues

Mirror: Jed Allen Didcot murders: Live updates as search for 'Wolverine fanatic' wanted over killings goes on


The Tab: Oxford: Triple murder suspect Jed Allen: Wolverine obsessed, knife-loving bodybuilder is still at large


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Video: ITV.com - Police press conference into Didcot murders


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Originally Posted by Thames Valley Police

Thames Valley Police

Murder investigation launched – Didcot

Sunday 24 May 2015, 0:21am

Thames Valley Police has launched a murder investigation in Didcot.

The Force was called to an address in Vicarage Road by a member of the public at 8.23pm yesterday (23/3).

Police officers attended the scene and three bodies were found inside the property.

A man, a woman and a girl were pronounced dead by ambulance staff at the scene.

The deceased are yet to be identified at this time.

Further, cause of deaths will not be established until post mortems have taken place. The post mortems are yet to be scheduled.

At this time no arrests have been made.

Investigating officer, Det Chief Insp Simon Steel of the Thames Valley Police Major Crime Unit, said: “Thames Valley Police has launched a murder investigation in Didcot after receiving a call from a member of the public at 8.23pm yesterday (23/5).

“Police officers attended the scene and three bodies were found inside the property. A man, a woman and a girl were pronounced dead at the scene by ambulance staff. Their deaths are being treated as suspicous.

“This is a tragic incident and our thoughts are with the loved-ones of the deceased.

“I would like to reassure the public that we are carrying out a thorough investigation into the incident.

“We would urge anyone with any information about the incident to contact us immediately via 101 quoting reference number 1370 (23/5). Did you see or hear anything suspicious in Vicarage Road this evening? If you did then we want to hear from you.

“If you don't want to speak directly to the police you can contact the independent charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111 or online at www.crimestoppers-uk.org. No personal details are taken, information is not traced or recorded and you will not go to court.

“A scene watch is in place in Vicarage Road, which is currently closed with access to residents only.

“I understand this incident will have an impact on the community and residents will be concerned. As you can understand, we are in the early stages of this investigation, but we will work hard to make sure the community is kept updated when we can.”


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Thames Valley Police

Sunday 24 May 2015, 11:02am

Update - Murder investigation launched - Didcot


Thames Valley Police is releasing an image of a man wanted in connection with three murders in Didcot.

The Force was called to an address in Vicarage Road by a member of the public at 8.23pm yesterday (23/3).

Police officers attended the scene and three bodies were found inside the property.

A 44-year-old man, a 48-year-old woman and a six-year-old girl were pronounced dead by ambulance staff at the scene.

The deceased are yet to be identified at this time.

Further, cause of deaths will not be established until post mortems have taken place. The post mortems are likely to take place today (24/5).

At this time no arrests have been made.

Thames Valley Police is releasing an image of Jed Allen, aged 21, who is wanted in connection with the murders.

Police believe that Jed Allen is related to the victims.

Investigating officer, Det Supt Chris Ward, head of the Thames Valley Police Major Crime Unit, said: “Thames Valley Police is releasing an image of a man wanted in connection with three murders in Didcot yesterday (23/5).

“The image is of Jed Allen, aged 21. We believe that Jed Allen is related to the victims and that this was a domestic incident.

“Jed is white, about 6ft, of stocky build, and has a distinctive tattoo of a spider on his left hand.

“If you see Jed please do not approach him, instead call 999 immediately.

“We would urge anyone with any other information about the incident to contact us via 101 quoting a new reference number of 465 (24/5). Did you see or hear anything suspicious in Vicarage Road yesterday? If you did then we want to hear from you.

“If you don't want to speak directly to the police you can contact the independent charity Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111 or online at www.crimestoppers-uk.org. No personal details are taken, information is not traced or recorded and you will not go to court.”

JW

Notes to editors - Images, including those of Jed Allen, are available via the following Dropbox link - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xmdfda0fh...zYU2iP3Ja?dl=0



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If anyone has access to Instagram / Facebook and can access any Jed Allen / "Mr Meat Tank" information, maybe they could post any relevant information if still available.

A date of birth would be most welcome and any other dates especially for his relevant social media postings.


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'Fed up of being treated like dirt' - Jed Allen on Facebook




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Wolverine Pose: Allen's social media shows a particular interest in Marvel comic characters




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Birthday Cake: Allen also posted a picture of this cake that also features Wolverine and the X-Men




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Some of the main reasons which piqued my interest ...



See also: 27 months, 27 weeks, 27 days for the assassination of JFK and the murder of Anna Lindh.


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P119 = 653

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= 3x P119 + 3x P119 + 3x P119 days since this formative mass murder event ...


3119 3119 3119

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= 777 weeks since the murder of Sarah Payne

= 777 x7 days

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Date relationships for this event are here.



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Old 25-05-2015, 06:03 PM   #2
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Way to disrespectfully belittle 3 people's deaths with stupid number games.

EDIT: 4, including Sarah Payne who you've included in your "calculations" for some reason.

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Old 25-05-2015, 06:10 PM   #3
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Police have found a body they believe to be that of triple-murder suspect Jed Allen.

Detectives hunting the 21-year-old - after his young sister, mother and her partner were found stabbed to death at their Didcot home - say his body was discovered in a wooded area in Oxford.

Members of the victims' families have been named.

Murder victims Philip Howard, Derin Jordon and Janet Jordon

Detective Superintendent Chris Ward, of Thames Valley Police, told a news conference: "Members of the public reported finding the body of a man in a wooded area in Oxford, in Marston Road.

"This is an area that had not been previously searched by police as a result of this investigation.

"No formal identification has taken place but I am satisfied that this is the body of Jed Allen, who I had previously named as a suspect in this investigation.

"The members of all of the victims families have been informed, and they are being supported by specially trained officers.

"While the investigation into this matter will continue, I am not seeking anybody else in connection with the offence. I would like to offer my condolences to all of the families of the victims in this tragic case."

It comes after police released CCTV pictures of Allen at Oxford railway station's WHSmith store on Saturday - hours after he is thought to have killed his family members.

The bodies of Derin Jordon, aged six, Janet Jordon, 48, and her partner Philip Howard, 44, were discovered in the house in Vicarage Road, Didcot, on Saturday night.

Footage also emerged from Allen's Instagram account, while images showed him posing with three knives between his fingers, imitating comic book hero Wolverine.

In others he is pictured holding a large hunting knife and knuckleduster.

His Facebook profile also includes status updates such as "Fed up of being treated like dirt" and "Works turned sour already".
http://news.sky.com/story/1490485/tr...len-body-found

Sort of had a feeling it would end like that. Now, a second pair of hands that helped Jed? Who knows. Seemingly open and shut, but still no clue as to why he did it.
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Old 25-05-2015, 07:13 PM   #4
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As a comic book geek, I'm annoyed that the tabloids have jumped on the 'superhero' angle. Anything to re-enforce the idea that comic nerds are 'creepy' or 'sinister'.

It's an attitude that's 20 years out of date. Were all a little more switched on to superhero culture these days. In fact the biggest grown group of comic book fans are girls....
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Old 25-05-2015, 07:14 PM   #5
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from Richard D Hall on facebook:

How convenient Jed Allen is found dead. This means no trial will take place where lawyers can defend the accused. Just like the Derrick Bird case it will be ran as an inquest where nobody other than the coroner will decide what evidence the jury see. The police immediately state that they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the murders. They know all three murders were done by Allen even though nobody has had the chance to even question him. In cases like this where an alleged perpetrator is killed, there should be a trial AND an inquest. I'd be interested to learn about his step father and mother and whether there were motives by third parties to murder them. The guy walks into a shop and buys a bottle of water just before the bodies were found on Saturday, with seemingly no signs he has murdered anyone, then is found dead a few days later in a wooded area. How the hell can the Police be 100% sure now, before ANY investigation that another person is not involved?????
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You'd need to have very good reason to suspect anybody else might be involved in this, zeph. What have you got, besides personal dissatisfaction?
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Old 25-05-2015, 07:28 PM   #7
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You'd need to have very good reason to suspect anybody else might be involved in this, zeph. What have you got, besides personal dissatisfaction?
er.. Those are not my words, just passing on info from an investigator, who knows his stuff
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Old 25-05-2015, 07:35 PM   #8
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Knowing his stuff doesn't mean he knows anything about this case that suggests the son wasn't the only person involved, or that he wasn't involved at all. Does the person you are quoting have anything to go on besides unfounded speculation?
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Knowing his stuff doesn't mean he knows anything about this case that suggests the son wasn't the only person involved, or that he wasn't involved at all. Does the person you are quoting have anything to go on besides unfounded speculation?
just look him up, you have google ffs
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Predictably, the murder suspect is now dead.

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BiBiC: Triple murder suspect Jed Allen found dead in Oxford woodland

Detectives looking for a man suspected of killing his sister, his mother and her partner have discovered his body in a wooded area in Oxford.

Thames Valley Police said the body of Jed Allen was found in a wooded area at 17:00 BST on Monday.

The bodies of Janet Jordon, 48, her six-year-old daughter Derrin and Philip Howard, 44, were found at their home in Didcot, Oxfordshire, on Saturday.

They had suffered fatal stab wounds, police said.

Det Supt Chris Ward said the force was now not looking for anyone else in connection with the victims' murders.

Mr Ward said though the body found in Marston Road, Oxford, had not been formally identified, he was satisfied it was Jed Allen.

He said: "The body was discovered in an area of woodland accessible by two members of the public. This area had not previously been searched by police."

The victims' bodies were found in a house in Vicarage Road at about 20:20 BST on Saturday after police were alerted by concerned neighbours.

More than 100 officers - some of them armed - took part in searches, which involved closing Oxford University Parks where Allen used to work as a groundsman.

Earlier, CCTV footage of Allen at Oxford railway station was released.

The footage shows him in WH Smith store on Saturday shortly before 18:00 BST.

Police also confirmed they had recovered a murder weapon at the scene.

Officers had urged members of the public not to approach Allen, who had a distinctive black spider tattoo on his left hand.

Mr Ward, who said an inquest would be carried out in due course, added: "My condolences go out to the families and loved ones.

"We have specially trained officers with the families and will continue to support them at this extremely difficult time.

"I would like to thank the public for all their help during this investigation, as well as their patience while we have been carrying out searches."

A number of people have visited Vicarage Road to leave floral tributes.

John Myers, head teacher of All Saints Primary School in Didcot, where Derrin was a pupil, described her as "a beautiful, happy, gentle, little girl, just a lovely, gentle, little soul... with lots of friends".

Ladygrove Community Centre, next door to the school, is opening its doors to allow staff, children and families to pay tribute to the little girl.


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Old 25-05-2015, 08:10 PM   #11
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How convenient Jed Allen is found dead. This means no trial will take place where lawyers can defend the accused. Just like the Derrick Bird case it will be ran as an inquest where nobody other than the coroner will decide what evidence the jury see. The police immediately state that they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the murders. They know all three murders were done by Allen even though nobody has had the chance to even question him. In cases like this where an alleged perpetrator is killed, there should be a trial AND an inquest. I'd be interested to learn about his step father and mother and whether there were motives by third parties to murder them. The guy walks into a shop and buys a bottle of water just before the bodies were found on Saturday, with seemingly no signs he has murdered anyone, then is found dead a few days later in a wooded area. How the hell can the Police be 100% sure now, before ANY investigation that another person is not involved?????

Exactly.

This is the "new normal of police investigations".

A la, Arnis Zalkans / Alice Gross = The Girl With the Pearl Earring ...


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Old 25-05-2015, 08:11 PM   #12
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just look him up, you have google ffs
I know who he is. I want to know what his reasoning is for doubting the story as it is thus far, and why he doubts the son might be the culprit.
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It is reported that the police took nearly two days to find the "murder weapon" at the house ...

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Guardian: Didcot murders: weapon found in hunt for Jed Allen

Monday 25 May 2015 14.10 BST

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Detectives hunting for a 21-year-old man suspected of killing his six-year-old sister, their mother and her partner believe they have have recovered the murder weapon from the family’s home.

The weapon, understood to be a knife, was discovered by forensic teams at the house in Didcot, Oxfordshire, as the search for Jed Allen intensified on Monday.

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Police believe Allen boarded a train at 5.24pm from Didcot to Oxford and arrived in Oxford at 5.45pm.

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The Train Line: Didcot Parkway to Oxford on weekdays:

Trains depart Didcot Parkway for Oxford: 17:15, 17:28, 17:38, 18:05

Today is a Bank Holiday so, in case it was a Sunday timetable:

The Train Line: Didcot Parkway for Oxford on Sundays:

Trains depart Didcot Parkway for Oxford: 17:06, 17:37



First Great Western show no rail improvement work for today, so no altered timetable for this route.


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Telephone call to First Great Western confirms an amended timetable service for today, due to the planned, union rail strike, which was subsequently cancelled.


Actual departures from Didcot Parkway to Oxford confirmed by telephone as:

16:59 service departed at 17:00

17:19 service departed at 17:21

17:29 service departed at 17:41


So, there was no 17:24 train today, from Didcot Parkway to Oxford.



Hmm ...



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Old 25-05-2015, 10:45 PM   #14
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Did it actually say that he boarded the train from Didcot to Oxford today?

The clues are there if you can be bothered to find them. This is a tragedy for all concerned. The young man allegedly had family and anger issues, the mother was apparently in an "its complicated" relationship on Facebook and also allegedly he was unhappy about his parents splitting up.
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They never said the train left at 17:24. They said he boarded it at 17:24.
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So, what Oxford train could he possibly have "boarded" at Didcot Parkway at 5:24?

to arrive at Oxford at 5:45 ?

Check the Train Line links, it's an absolute minimum journey time of 11 minutes, typically around 21 minutes.




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Alex Rossi, Sky News this morning ( 26 May ), repeats the bs about the train time:

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"He was also filmed at this shop at the city's railway station at about a quarter to six.

He'd just arrived from Didcot on the 5:24.

He didn't look like a man on the run, as he bought a bottle of water"




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Old 26-05-2015, 06:50 AM   #18
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And the Mirror:

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Jed Allen Didcot murders: Police find body believed to be the 21-year-old Wolverine fan

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Detectives believe Jed boarded the 5.24pm train from Didcot, where his family lived, and arrived in Oxford at 5.45pm on Saturday.

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So, there is no scheduled Didcot Parkway to Oxford train departing at 5:24 either on weekdays or Sundays, and the revised timetable for this Bank Holiday Monday had no scheduled departure for 5:24.

Also, no train actually departed at 5:24.

Also, there is no way that anyone could have "boarded" a train at Didcot at 5:24, to arrive in Oxford at 5:45.

So, where did the police get the 5:24 time from ?




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When I first heard of this story, my immediate thought was "Just kill yourself, you sad fuck." That he went and did it using the method he'd used to snuff out the lives of family members, hardly comes as a surprise.
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