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Old 06-02-2012, 01:48 PM   #201
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Nacht und Nebel, German for "Night and Fog" (a direct reference to a "Tarnhelm" spell, from Wagner's Rheingold) was a directive (German: Erlass) of Adolf Hitler on 7 December 1941 that was originally intended to winnow out all political activists and resistance 'helpers', “anyone endangering German security” (die deutsche Sicherheit gefährden) throughout Nazi Germany's occupied territories. Two months later Armed Forces High Command Feldmarschall Wilhelm Keitel expanded it to include all persons in occupied countries who had been taken into custody and were still alive eight days later. The decree was meant to intimidate local populations into submission by denying friends and families of the missing any knowledge of their whereabouts or their fate. The prisoners were secretly transported to Germany, vanishing without a trace. In 1945, the seized Sicherheitsdienst (SD) records were found to include merely names and the initials NN (Nacht und Nebel); even the sites of graves were unchronicled. To this day, it is not known how many thousands of people disappeared as a result of this order.

Even before the Holocaust gained momentum, the Nazis had begun rounding up political prisoners from both Germany and occupied Europe. Most of the early prisoners were of two sorts: they were either prisoners of personal conviction (belief), political prisoners whom the Nazis deemed in need of "re-education" to Nazi ideals, or resistance leaders in occupied western Europe. Up until the time of the "Night and Fog" decree, prisoners from Western Europe were handled by German soldiers in approximately the same way other countries did: according to national agreements and procedures such as the Geneva Convention. Hitler and his upper level staff, however, made a critical decision not to have to conform to what they considered unnecessary rules.

The Night and Fog prisoners were mostly from France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Norway. They were usually arrested in the middle of the night and quickly taken to prisons hundreds of miles away for questioning, eventually arriving at concentration camps such as Natzweiler or Gross-Rosen, if they survived. Until 30 April 1944, at least 6,639 persons were captured under the Nacht und Nebel orders. Some 340 of them may have been executed. The 1955 film Night and Fog uses the term to illustrate one aspect of the concentration camp system as it was transformed into a system of labour and death camps.


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Die Kristallnacht, also known as die Reichskristallnacht (literally Imperial Crystal Night), die Pogromnacht and inEnglish known as the Night of Broken Glass, was a massive nationwide pogrom in Germany and Austria on the night of November 9 1938, (and into the early hours of the following day). It was directed at Jewish citizens throughout the country and was the beginning of the Holocaust.

The pretext for the attacks was the assassination of German diplomat Ernst vom Rath by Herschel Grynszpan, a German-born Polish Jew in Paris, France. Kristallnacht was followed by further economic and political persecution of Jews, and is viewed by historians as part of Nazi Germany's broader racial policy, and the beginning of the Final Solution and the Holocaust...

In the 1920s, most German Jews were fully integrated into German society as German citizens. They served in the German army and navy and contributed to every field of German science, business and culture. Conditions for the Jews began to change after the appointment of Adolf Hitler (the leader of the Nazi group) as Chancellor of Germany on 30 January 1933 and the assumption of power by Hitler after the Reichstag fire. From its inception, Hitler's regime moved quickly to introduce anti-Jewish policies. The 500,000 Jews in Germany, who accounted for only 0.76% of the overall population, were singled out by the Nazi propaganda machine as an enemy within who were responsible for Germany's defeat in the First World War and for her subsequent economic difficulties, such as the 1920s hyperinflation and Great Depression. Beginning in 1933, the German government enacted a series of anti-Jewish laws restricting the rights of German Jews to earn a living, to enjoy full citizenship and to educate themselves, including the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service, which forbade Jews to work in the civil service. The subsequent 1935 Nuremberg Laws stripped German Jews of their citizenship and forbade Jews to marry non-Jewish Germans.


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Old 07-02-2012, 06:12 PM   #203
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Among those expelled was the family of Zindel and Rivka Grynszpan, Polish Jews who had emigrated to Germany in 1911 and settled in Hannover. At the trial of Adolf Eichmann in 1961, Zindel Grynszpan recounted the events of their deportation from Hannover on the night of 27 October 1938: “Then they took us in police trucks, in prisoners’ lorries, about 20 men in each truck, and they took us to the railway station. The streets were full of people shouting: ’Juden raus! Auf nach Palästina!’ ” ("Jews out, out to Palestine!").

Their seventeen-year-old son Herschel was living in Paris with an uncle. His sister, Berta, sent him a postcard from the Polish border describing the family's expulsion: "No one told us what was up, but we realised this was going to be the end… We haven't a penny. Could you send us something?"He received the postcard on November 3. On the morning of Monday, November 7, he purchased a revolver and a box of bullets, then went to the German embassy and asked to see an embassy official. After he was taken to the office of Ernst vom Rath, Herschel shot him three times in the abdomen. Ironically, Vom Rath himself was a professional diplomat with the Foreign Office who expressed known anti-Nazi sympathies, largely based on the Nazi's treatment of the Jews, and was himself under Gestapo investigation for being politically unreliable. Grynszpan made no attempt to escape the French police and freely confessed to the shooting. In his pocket, he carried a postcard to his parents with the message "May God forgive me… I must protest so that the whole world hears my protest, and that I will do."

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On 8 November Germany announced the first punitive measures in response to the shooting. Jewish newspapers and magazines were to cease publication immediately. This cut off Jews from their leadership, whose task was to advise and guide them, particularly about emigration. It was a measure, one British newspaper explained, "intended to disrupt the Jewish community and rob it of the last frail ties which hold it together." At the time three German Jewish newspapers had a national circulation, and there were four cultural papers, several sports papers, and several dozen community bulletins, of which the one in Berlin had a circulation of 40,000. The government announced that Jewish children could no longer attend German state elementary schools. All Jewish cultural activities were also suspended indefinitely. Their rights as citizens had been stripped.

After the killing there were claims that vom Rath was a homosexual, and that Grynszpan was intending to use this claim in his defence at the trial by implying that Rath had seduced him. Joseph Goebbels had been intending to turn the trial into Nazi propaganda about Jewish conspiracy, but the homosexuality accusations threatened to humiliate the Nazis. Goebbels wrote that "Grynszpan has invented the insolent argument that he had a homosexual relationship with... vom Rath. That is, of course, a shameless lie; however it is thought out very cleverly and would, if brought out in the course of a public trial, certainly become the main argument of enemy propaganda."

Whether or not Rath was homosexual is not known. His brother was convicted of homosexual offences and there were allegations that vom Rath was treated for rectal gonorrhoea at the Berlin Institute of Radiology. As a result of the potential embarrassment the trial was indefinitely postponed.

Grynszpan was returned to Germany after the defeat of France in 1940 and is believed to have died in a German prison or concentration camp in 1944 or early 1945.



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Old 07-02-2012, 06:16 PM   #204
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Wikipedia System Of Control
Wikipedians (Jewish volunteers) will concentrate on a certain subject, and actively moderate any new replies. Once an individual edits an article, his ISP number is recorded, and he is assigned a sayanim that will monitor all his future writings.
Individual contributors are assigned a tracking page, and an open record of all writings. Through out the cycle the contributor this will be monitored by Hillel, ADL, SPLC, type control agents.


Dr. Fredrick Toben
Dr. Toben is German historian and scholar, that grew up in Australia, and runs the Adelaide Institue. He is noted for his investigation of the 'Jewish Holocaust'. Wikipedia contributors wrote a slanderous page on him, and when he went to refute it, the sayanims deleted all his comments.
Wikipedia's Stance
Toben is a monster, who associates with criminals, and himself was a convict

Theresienstadt
In 1941, Germany gave Jewish artists their own experimental town as prototype refuge, to protect Jews. Subsequently the Jews have altered history, and refer to it as a death camp.
When a 1943 documentary film was edited into Wikipedia's Theresienstadt page, the HillelWikipedians immediately deleted, saying it was propaganda and holocaust denial
Wikipedia's Stance
Theresienstadt was Nazi hellhole, where Jews were starved to death, and then sent on to Auschwitz.


Where Does Wikipedia Get It's Funds?
According to it's founder, James Wales, it lives on grants and small individual contributions.

What's The Real Story?
From all the available information, it appears Wikipedia was started by a two Jewish kids, one a programmer, and the other an 'Adult Site' operator. It's dynamic success (800,000 pages) stems from 10,000 + individual contributors, which are monitored by core sayanims.
Wikipedia's claim: ~ 'We are an internet encyclopedia with a neutral stance' ~ is absurd.
This project is an attempt to control student research on the Internet. Any subject Googled will show Wikipedia as one of the first entries. Type in the word Bolshevik, and the first entry is Wikipedia. Explore their version, and you won't be the slightest mention that the movement was a Jewish instigated bloodbath, that was responsible for 20,000,000 deaths.

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Old 07-02-2012, 06:46 PM   #205
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After 1945 some synagogues were restored. This one in Berlin features a plaque, reading "Never forget," a common expression around Berlin

Five handicapped Jewish prisoners who arrived in Buchenwald after Kristallnacht.


Buchenwald concentration camp (German: Konzentrationslager (KZ) Buchenwald, ) was a German Nazi concentration camp established on the Ettersberg (Etter Mountain) near Weimar, Germany, in July 1937, one of the first and the largest of the concentration camps on German soil.

Well-known inmates....

Karl Mayr, Adolf Hitler's immediate superior in an Army Intelligence Division in the Reichswehr, 1919–1920; later becoming a political opponent.
Roy Allen, American B-17 Flying Fortress pilot
Phillip (Phil) J. Lamason, Squadron Leader, Royal New Zealand Air Force
Jean Améry, writer
Jack van der Geest, escapee
Robert Antelme, French writer
Jacob Avigdor, before World War II Chief Rabbi of Drohobych, after World War II Chief Rabbi of Mexico
Conrad Baars, psychiatrist
Bruno Bettelheim, child psychologist
Józef Biniszkiewicz, Polish socialist politician
Léon Blum, Jewish French politician, pre-war long term French Prime Minister, and again after the war
Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Protestant theologian and prominent member of the Confessing Church
Rudolf Brazda, as of 2011 the last known surviving homosexual deported to the camps
Rudolf Breitscheid, former member of the SPD and leader of its faction in the Reichstag of the Weimar Republic before the Nazi seizure of power in 1933, died in the camp in 1944
Christopher Burney, British officer and Special Operations Executive operative, wrote about the savage infighting and struggle for power and privileges between the inmates at Buchenwald in The Dungeon Democracy
Robert Clary, French actor, Corporal Louis LeBeau on the Hogan's Heroes television series
René Cogny, French general
Fritz Czuczka, Austrian artist/architect
Seweryn Franciszek Czetwertyński-Światopełk, Polish politician
Édouard Daladier, French politician, former Head of the French government
Armand de Dampierre, French aristocrat, died in the camp on January 8, 1944
Marcel Dassault, French aviation entrepreneur who founded the Dassault Group
Laure Diebold, French resistant, Compagnon de la Libération
Willem Drees, Dutch politician, Prime Minister of the Netherlands from 1948 until 1958
Ernst Federn, Austrian social-psychologist
Bolesław Fichna, Polish right-wing politician and lawyer
Josef Frank (politician), Czech communist
August Froehlich, German Roman Catholic priest active in resistance movement against the National Socialism
Henry P. Glass, Austrian Architect and Industrial Designer, released in 1939, moved to U.S.
Albin Grau, film producer (Nosferatu, 1922)
Maurice Halbwachs French sociologist, died in the camp in 1945
Adolf Grunbaum, Austrian physician, released from camp 1939 and emigrated to US. Changed name to Arthur Grant.
Curt Herzstark inventor of the Curta calculator, hand-held, hand-cranked mechanical calculator
Heinrich Eduard Jacob, German writer
Paul-Emile Janson, Belgian politician, former Prime Minister of Belgium, died in the camp in 1944
Marian Filar Polish Jewish concert pianist and virtuoso. Played at Carnegie Hall After the war.
Léon Jouhaux, French trade unionist and Nobel Peace Prize laureate
Józef Kachel, Scout leader, head of the pre-war Polish Scouting Association in Germany
Imre Kertész writer, 2002 Nobel Prize in Literature recipient
Eugen Kogon, anti-Nazi activist, later Christian Socialist, professor, broadcaster and author of Der SS-Staat ("The SS state"), a significant piece of literature concerning the German concentration camps
Jan Łangowski, Polish social worker and politician active among the Polish diaspora in Germany
Yisrael Meir Lau (born 1937), Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel
Hermann Leopoldi, Austrian composer and entertainer
Parlindoengan Loebis, Indonesian physician and activist in the Netherlands
Fritz Löhner-Beda, Austrian lyricist
Artur London, senior Czech communist and writer, future government minister
Jacques Lusseyran, blind French memoirist and professor
Georges Mandel French politician, former Minister of the Interior, died in the camp in 1944
Henri Maspero, French Sinologist, pioneering scholar of Taoism, died in the camp in March 1945
Erik L. Mollo-Christensen, Emeritus Professor of Oceanography, MIT; former Associate Director of Earth Science, NASAtance
Andree Peel, Member of the French resistance
Harry Peulevé, an agent of the British Special Operations Executive (SOE) who managed to escape Buchenwald with F. F. E. Yeo-Thomas.
Henri Christiaan Pieck, Dutch painter and twin brother of Anton Pieck
Hélie de Saint Marc, member of the French resistance, later involved in the attempted Algiers putsch
H.R.H. The Princess Mafalda of Savoy, the daughter of King Vittorio Emanuele III of Italy and his Consort, Queen Elena, died in the camp in 1944.
Franciszek Myśliwiec, Polish politician and social worker
John H. Noble, American-born gulag survivor and author
Count Albert de Nadaillac, head of a French resistance organisation (ORA-Tours Angers Le Mans). He survived, but his younger brother, count Michel de Nadaillac, also involved in the resistance died in Dora.
Almeric Lombard de Buffiers de Rambuteau, French aristocrat, died in the camp on December 14, 1944
Paul Rassinier, considered the father of Holocaust denial
Jakob Rosenfeld, minister of health under Mao
Baron Otto of Schmidburg, minor German noble, died in the camp on July 23, 1941
Herbert Sandberg, artist, designer, publisher of Ulenspiegel
Etta Sapon, Italian, Dramatic actress
Paul Schneider, German pastor, died in the camp in 1939
Jorge Semprún, Spanish intellectual and politician and culture minister of Spain (1988–91)
Jura Soyfer, Austrian poet and dramatist, died in the camp in 1939
Ernst Thälmann, leader of the Communist Party of Germany, died in the camp in April 1944
William Arthur Waldram, Canadian Lancaster tail gunner, General Motors executive
Fred Wander, Austrian writer
Ernst Wiechert, German writer
Elie Wiesel, Romanian Jewish French-American writer, 1986 Nobel Peace Prize recipient
F. F. E. Yeo-Thomas, Royal Air Force Wing Commander and British Special Operations Executive (SOE) agent, codenamed "The White Rabbit". Returned to England in 1945
Petr Zenkl, Czech national socialist politician
Walter Gutheim, German business man who migrated to America after the war.

Bodies of Buchenwald prisoners, April 1945




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Old 09-02-2012, 09:20 PM   #206
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Hitler appropriated Christian religious symbols such as the Spear of Destiny and the Holy Grail for his own purposes. He adopted the swastika from Hinduism among many other Sanskrit terms and symbols. The symbol of the Swastika represents the Sun, and also the Wheel of Life turning. The original symbol turns clockwise. The four arms of the original Swastika represent the Four Vedas. The swastika is also the symbol for peace and harmony, as in Buddhism, Jainism and Taoism. It decorates most Hindu homes and temples. Adolf Hitler's rise was the product of forces and events connecting him, his associates and the occult. Was Hitler influenced by supernatural ideas or was he just the embodiment of pure hate and evil? Examine the importance of symbols of the occult, religion and astrology to Hitler's concept of world domination.

The swastika was used for badges and flags throughout Nazi Germany, particularly for government and military organizations, but also for "popular" organizations such as the Reichsbund Deutsche Jägerschaft (German Hunting Society).

While the DAP and the NSDAP had used both right-facing and left-facing swastikas, the right-facing swastika was used consistently from 1920 onwards. However, Ralf Stelter notes that the swastika flag used on land had a right-facing swastika on both sides, while the ensign (naval flag) had it printed through so that a left-facing swastika would be seen when looking at the ensign with the flagpole to the right.

Several variants are found...



a 45° black swastika on a white disc as in the NSDAP and national flags;

a 45° black swastika on a white lozenge (e.g., Hitler Youth);

a 45° black swastika with a white outline was painted on the tail of aircraft of the Luftwaffe, and usually using a design based on a 25-small-square subdivided square template (width of "strokes" in each of its arms, equalling the width of the space between the strokes);

a 45° black swastika outlined by thin white and black lines on a white disc (e.g., the German War Ensign);

an upright black swastika outlined by thin white and black lines on a white disc (e.g., Personal standard of Adolf Hitler in which a gold wreath encircles the swastika; the Schutzstaffel; and the Reichsdienstflagge, in which a black circle encircles the swastika);

small gold, silver, black, or white 45° swastikas, often lying on or being held by an eagle, on many badges and flags.

Divisional insignia of 11.SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division Nordland

a swastika with curved outer arms forming a broken circle, as worn by the SS Nordland Division.

There were attempts to amalgamate Nazi and Hindu use of the swastika, notably by the French writer Savitri Devi who declared Hitler an Avatar of Vishnu...


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Review

A very readable and useful study, written with the engaged sympathy of an insider and the balanced judgments of a fine historian. -- Kirkus Reviews

If the middle section of interviews seems redundant, it is only because Brenner has covered the material so well and so succinctly elsewhere [in the book]. -- Publishers Weekly

The history that Brenner deftly recounts confounds any urge to extract simple lessons from the Holocaust or its aftermath.... Brenner has instead provided something more fragile and more valuable, a reminder that the way people reassemble their lives after tragedy is miraculously complicated. -- Noah J. Efron, The Boston Book Review

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This landmark book is the first comprehensive account of the lives of the Jews who remained in Germany immediately following the war. Gathering never-before-published eyewitness accounts from Holocaust survivors, Michael Brenner presents a remarkable history of this period. While much has been written on the Holocaust itself, until now little has been known about the fate of those survivors who remained in Germany. Jews emerging from concentration camps would learn that most of their families had been murdered and their communities destroyed. Furthermore, all Jews in the country would face the stigma of living, as a 1948 resolution of the World Jewish Congress termed it, on "bloodsoaked German soil." Brenner brings to life the psychological, spiritual, and material obstacles they surmounted as they rebuilt their lives in Germany. At the heart of his narrative is a series of fifteen interviews Brenner conducted with some of the most important witnesses who played an active role in the reconstruction--including presidents of Jewish communities, rabbis, and journalists.

Based on the Yiddish and German press and unpublished archival material, the first part of this book provides a historical introduction to this fascinating topic. Here the author analyzes such diverse aspects as liberation from concentration camps, cultural and religious life among the Jewish Displaced Persons, antisemitism and philosemitism in post-war Germany, and the complex relationship between East European and German Jews. A second part consists of the fifteen interviews, conducted by Brenner, with witnesses representing the diverse background of the postwar Jewish community. While most of them were camp survivors, others returned from exile or came to Germany as soldiers of the Jewish Brigade or with international Jewish aid organizations. A third part, which covers the development of the Jewish community in Germany from the 1950s until today, concludes the book.
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I did not want to really post this...but sometimes you have to sink to the bottom of the barrel to really expose nazi atrocities...sorry about this.




The Schutzstaffel translated to Protection Squadron or defence corps, abbreviated SS—or Runic "ᛋᛋ" with stylized "Armanen" Sig runes) was a major paramilitary organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. Built upon the Nazi ideology, the SS under Heinrich Himmler's command was responsible for many of the crimes against humanity during World War II (1939–1945). After 1945, the SS was banned in Germany, along with the Nazi Party, as a criminal organization.



The origin of the SS came from a small permanent guard unit made up of NSDAP volunteers to provide security for Nazi Party meetings in Munich. Formed at the end of 1920, they were known as the "Saal-Schutz" (Hall-Protection). Later under the leadership of Heinrich Himmler between 1929 and 1945, the SS was renamed the "Schutz-Staffel" and grew from a small paramilitary formation to one of the largest and most powerful organizations in the Third Reich

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An Australian POW captured in New Guinea, Sgt. Leonard Siffleet, about to be beheaded by the Japanese with a shin guntō sword, 1943.

In February 1943, university students Hans Scholl, his sister Sophie Scholl, and Christoph Probst of the White Rose protest movement, for distributing anti-war and anti-Nazi leaflets. Four other members of the White Rose were also executed by the Nazi People's Court later that same year. The anti-Nazi Helmuth Hübener was also decapitated by People’s Court order.

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sometimes you have to sink to the bottom of the barrel to really expose nazi atrocities...believe you me I do not enjoy posting this stuff...

so what if there are different people watching, different events on the same day.....all people have to do, is to do the research themselves.

Beheadings were nothing new in nazi germany just like they are nothing new to the radical extremists that we have around today...

One of the founders of an anti-Hitler movement in wartime Germany has been declared a saint by the Russian Orthodox Church 69 years after he was beheaded by the Nazis.

The Schutzstaffel, abbreviated SS was a major Nazi military organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. The SS grew from a small paramilitary unit to an elite force that served as the Führer's "Praetorian Guard," the Nazi Party's "Shield Squadron" and a force with as much political influence as the regular German armed forces. Built upon the Nazi racial ideology, the SS, under Heinrich Himmler's command, was primarily responsible for the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Nazis during the Second World War.



On October 3, 1939 less than a week after the signing of treaty of friendship between Hitler and Stalin on September 28, the NKVD started to select prominent Polish prisoners of war for the purpose of mass execution, which took place in the Spring of 1940 at the time when the Soviets organized mass deportation of the Poles to Kazakstan and other localities. During the 20-month of Hitler-Stalin partnership the Soviets deported some 1,700,000 people from Poland, mostly Catholics, of whom 900,000 were dead by October 1, 1942 including nearly 22,000 Polish army and police officers and civil servants executed in Katyn, Tver and Miednoye as well as in many Soviet prisons.


http://polishnews.com/index.php?opti...ory&Itemid=329

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...ing-axe-24383/

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Hitler loved his dog


Hitler loved kids


Hitler loved Disney animation, had a persoanl copy of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, and drew the above Disney characters himself.

Here is the difference between my photos and the ones lightgiver posted. My descriptions are accurate. He did love dogs and kids, he did love Disney animation and Snow White, and he did draw the above Disney characters. He was an artist.

We're told this man was the biggest monster the world has ever seen. Well he couldn't have been a psychopath, so I have my doubts. Psychopaths are predominantly if not exclusively left-brained. They might be good at math and science, but when it comes to creativity and art they can't do it. This is a fact. So Hitler was obviously using the right-side of his brain. Psychopaths might fake liking animals and kids, but he genuinely loved his dog and many sources say he liked kids.

Hitler needs to be humanized and this Nazi atrocity nonsense needs to be re-visited because there is not only reason to doubt most of it, but NATO/US aren't any more 'moral' today. I don't care if Nazis cut off somebody's head with an axe. What is the context? Maybe he deserved it. What does the Japanese have to do with Nazis?

Lightgiver you really are a spammer. You're like that mom who mass forwards photos with outrageous and incorrect descriptions that are debunked in snopes. Except you do it hardcore.

The truth is that this is a propaganda farm's oldest tricks. Try to go for people's emotions with shock value. Highly suggestible people fall for it. Like when you posted photos of a holocaust tattoo. You're banking on a conditioned sucker getting emotional about it. I know that because the tattoo accompanies many holocaust articles. There is probably a guide that says "use photos of tattoos, works like a charm! They fall for it!"

Thing is I can go get a holocaust tattoo right now, dye my hair gray, and say to Germany "plx give me monies" like all the impostors receiving reparations in Israel today.
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The Wöbbelin camp, near the city of Ludwigslust, was a subcamp of the Neuengamme concentration camp. The SS had established Wöbbelin to house concentration camp prisoners whom the SS had evacuated from other camps to prevent their liberation by the Allies. At its height, Wöbbelin held some 5,000 inmates, most of whom were suffering from starvation and disease. The camp was freed on May 2, 1945...

Citizens of Ludwigslust inspect the concentration camp under orders of the 82nd Airborne Division...


On May 7, 1945, the 82nd Airborne Division conducted funeral services for 200 inmates in the town of Ludwigslust. Attending the ceremony were citizens of Ludwigslust, captured German officers, and several hundred members of the airborne division. The U.S. Army chaplain at the service delivered a eulogy stating that:


"The crimes here committed in the name of the German people and by their acquiescence were minor compared to those to be found in concentration camps elsewhere in Germany. Here there were no gas chambers, no crematoria; these men of Holland, Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and France were simply allowed to starve to death. Within four miles of your comfortable homes 4,000 men were forced to live like animals, deprived even of the food you would give to your dogs. In three weeks 1,000 of these men were starved to death; 800 of them were buried in pits in the nearby woods. These 200 who lie before us in these graves were found piled four and five feet high in one building and lying with the sick and dying in other buildings."




In accordance with a policy mandated by General Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, the U.S. Army in Ludwigslust ordered "all atrocity victims to be buried in a public place" with crosses placed at the graves of Christians and Stars of David on the Jewish graves, along with a stone monument to commemorate the dead.




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Hitler loved his dog


Hitler loved kids


Hitler loved Disney animation, had a persoanl copy of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, and drew the above Disney characters himself.

Here is the difference between my photos and the ones lightgiver posted. My descriptions are accurate. He did love dogs and kids, he did love Disney animation and Snow White, and he did draw the above Disney characters. He was an artist.

We're told this man was the biggest monster the world has ever seen. Well he couldn't have been a psychopath, so I have my doubts. Psychopaths are predominantly if not exclusively left-brained. They might be good at math and science, but when it comes to creativity and art they can't do it. This is a fact. So Hitler was obviously using the right-side of his brain. Psychopaths might fake liking animals and kids, but he genuinely loved his dog and many sources say he liked kids.

Hitler needs to be humanized and this Nazi atrocity nonsense needs to be re-visited because there is not only reason to doubt most of it, but NATO/US aren't any more 'moral' today. I don't care if Nazis cut off somebody's head with an axe. What is the context? Maybe he deserved it. What does the Japanese have to do with Nazis?
Hitler was an animal lover and vegetarian, he, Hess and Himmler were for ethical reasons.
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Does anybody know if baby's were born in these camps.

The camps were up and running for at least 3-4 years.

Women must have got pregnant surely?

They must have had parts of the camps for giving birth and looking after the newborn?

Why do i get the feeling baby's wern't born there.

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Old 16-02-2012, 08:51 PM   #215
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Does anybody know if babies were born in these camps.

The camps were up and running for at least 3-4 years.

Women must have got pregnant surely?

They must have had parts of the camps for giving birth and looking after the newborn?

Why do i get the feeling babies wern't born there.
Babies were born, its documented evidence available.

Eg the Auschwitz so called "death records"(Totenbücher) which appeared again after the fall of SU.

There was even a diet plan, which authoritatively stated how much food the prisoners were supplied. Note it was war time and ordinary Germans didn't have themselves much to eat.
As you know, the Germans have always been ridiculous bureucracy fanatics, its all documented, but partly still classified.

Just have a look for birth & deaths and you will find answers.

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Old 16-02-2012, 08:55 PM   #216
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Arrow The baby born on the Nazi camp train

Helga Weissova-Hoskova, a survivor from Prague, was recalling one of the Nazis' last acts. In April 1945, aged 14, she was being shunted on a train with several hundred women to the death camp of Mauthausen in Austria.

One woman tried to hide the child that had been born just before she boarded. Four others were close to giving birth. All knew that arriving in a camp with a baby almost certainly meant death.

But as Mrs Weissova-Hoskova retold those events in London's Wigmore Hall on Saturday, there was an interruption from the audience. A woman sprang out of her seat and announced, to
the astonishment of all, "I was one of those babies."

Eva Clarke, 65, from Cambridge, was born on April 29, just after the train reached its destination. Her mother, Anna Bergman, is today 93 years old, and lives in Cardiff. "It was just stunning," Mrs Clarke said after her revelation. "It really was a moment."

Her father was killed just a week before the liberation

Mrs Weissova-Hoskova said: "It was a surprise for all of us. I didn't know she was alive."

The two women had come for a commemoration, sponsored by the JC and organised by the Nash Ensemble, of the remarkable music and art of the Theresienstadt concentration camp. They had never met before.

Mrs Weissova-Hoskova, now a celebrated artist aged 80, entered Theresienstadt when she was 12 years old and drew her experiences while she was there. She was one of fewer than 100 children, out of 15,000, who went there and survived.

"There were two reasons why we survived," said Mrs Clarke. "The Germans had blown up the gas chambers at Mauthausen the day before, trying to conceal the evidence. And, three days after my birth, the American army liberated the camp."

Her parents, Anna and Bernd Bergman, were deported from Prague in 1941 and spent three years in Theresienstadt. Although the sexes were segregated, they had a son there, George, who died of pneumonia after only two months.

When her husband was sent to Auschwitz, Mrs Bergman volunteered to follow him. "Being the eternal optimist, she thought after having survived for three years, things couldn't get worse," Mrs Clarke said.

But after ten days, Mrs Bergman was sent to the slave labour camp in Freiburg, near Dresden. She never saw her husband again - he was killed a week before liberation - and he never knew she was pregnant again.

In Freiburg, Mrs Bergman took heart from the Allied bombing raids on Dresden - in fact, the RAF crews included Eva's future father-in-law, whose bombs could have "easily killed her".

After around six months, she was moved again. "The train consisted not of cattle-trucks, but open-air coaltrucks," Mrs Clarke said. "Conditions were filthy. She was on the train for three solid weeks. During the nightmare of the journey, the train was stopped in the middle of the countryside and the dead bodies thrown out."

Her mother, now nine months' pregnant, weighed just five stone. A passing farmer was so appalled by what he saw that he brought her a glass of milk.

"There was a Nazi officer standing next to her and he had a whip, and he raised his whip to shoulder height as if to beat my mother if she accepted the glass of milk - but he didn't," Mrs Clarke said. "He just lowered his arm and didn't say anything. He let her have the milk. She wondered if that saved her life."

But when her mother saw the name Mauthausen at the station, "she was so shocked she thinks that provoked her labour. She had to climb off the train onto a cart because some of the prisoners were not strong enough to walk up the hill, and she proceeded to give birth to me. A Nazi officer saw she was in labour and said to her, 'Carry on screaming.'

"She was screaming because she thought it was her very last minute on this earth. I didn't move, I didn't breathe. Incredibly, the Germans allowed a doctor - who was also a prisoner - to come to my mother. He cut the umbilical cord and smacked me to make me cry.

"But no doctor has been able to explain how, when I was born, my mother had milk. Three weeks later when we came back to Prague, that milk had disappeared."

Mrs Clarke now speaks regularly about the Holocaust in schools. Two of the other train babies survived and now live in the United States. The three made contact earlier this year and attended the 65th anniversary of the liberation of Mauthausen.

She reflected: "My mother says if I were not the living proof, she would begin to doubt it herself."


http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news...azi-camp-train

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Old 16-02-2012, 09:57 PM   #217
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What did they do to the babies? Let the prisoners have them? Gas them? Perform medical experiments on them?

I thought for years that kids under a certain age (I've read anywhere from 3 to 13) were 'exterminated'. Is that not the case? I guess the narrative continues to evolve, especially as evidence is de-classified.

And I like how the narrative is ever evolving. That's a clue that something is wrong. Check this out:

http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Opinio...aspx?id=257917

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Nearly 70 years after the massacre of more than 27,000 Jews in Rostov, on the banks of the River Don, the Russian Ministry of Culture has announced it will replace the plaque adorning the monument to the dead. But once the text of the new inscription was revealed, it became clear that this was not merely an exhibition of the low level official’s love of new unveilings and plaque dedications. Rather it was another attempt by a European state to revise the history of the Holocaust and remove the stain of genocide from the national consciousness.

The original plaque recorded the event soberly and factually as follows: “On 11/12 August 1942 there had been destroyed by the Nazis more than 27,000 Jews. It is Russia’s largest Holocaust memorial”.

The new inscription immediately smacks of the sort of flowery, bloated language of patriotism more in tune with Stalin’s Russia than with a modern state. And it foreshadowed a return to the sort of euphemisms and terms of convenience rather than truth which were a feature of the old rule – and are increasingly becoming a feature of the new.

The amendment to the text was not merely an exercise in semantics.

Firstly, the victims of the massacre were no longer Jews, rather, “peace-loving Soviet citizens of all nationalities”.

Gone too is any reference to the Holocaust. Now the massacre is described as having occurred in the context of The Great Patriotic War.
What a dick. National consciousness? This is proof that people like this absolutely want to make future generations feel guilty for something that happened before they were born. It wouldn't surprise me if the Iraq war was revenge for Babylonian captivity. That's how these people think.

This article is written by a selfish person who is mad that Russia is doing a little historical revisionism and is making it less Judeo-centric.

See, the anomaly of the holocaust is that it is a unique and exclusively Jewish event. The non-Jewish victims are rarely mentioned, and when they are they are mentioned as footnotes.

I don't know about you, but growing up in public school they never made any distinction between a "death camp" and a "concentration camp" and it was taught, if not right in the pages of the history books used, that 6 million Jews were exterminated. In gas chambers. In death camps. Nobody ever said anything about death due to warfare and air raids. They said extermination and gas chambers.

Of course the holocaust narrative wants people to believe that Jewish areas like ghettos were deliberately targeted. Yet in another place you hear that Poles and Slavic people were deliberately targeted which makes more sense because they didn't like Slavic people and they were at war with Poland. They didn't like Jews either, but the Jews happened to be Slavic and Polish.

Again, this was a war. Nobody calls the nukes dropped on Japan "extermination" despite the fact that Japanese people were deliberately targeted. Nagasaki had a lot of indigenous Ainu people (whose ancestors are likely the Annunaki and possibly even Quetzalcoatl and other Meso-American 'gods'... the infamous reptile statue has always looked pretty Asian to me). Do the Ainu say that they were exterminated in WWII?

The collective concentration camps didn't have majority Jewish prisoners, but we are told the extermination camps did even though there is little evidence that the temporary camps (which are memorials today) even existed. The temp camps were tiny, I don't see how they could've had so many prisoners as they claimed died. When they made the memorials, no evidence of mass graves or bodies was discovered either.

Anyways, what I'm saying is the Holocaust delieberately demotes non-Jews because it only refers to the Jews. It is a selfish event. It is not unique by itself. The holocaust is something like 2.5 million gassed Jews plus 3.5 million misc. dead Jews, 'exterminated' via different methods (including starvation). Poland claims that almost six million Poles were killed as a result of warfare, half of who were Jews and mostly not in any sort of camps. The claimed 3 million or so non-Jewish Poles are excluded from the holocaust. The holocaust only mentions them if they were in camps. Thus you see the anamoly and distortion of the holocaust narrative. Because Jews not in camps are included. Non-Jews not so much.

Other than the fact that the Jewish death toll is highly exagerrated and not backed up by any physical evidence (no bodies or ash piles, no complete list of names or identities, in other words no rational way to prove they even existed), the holocaust narrative passes itself off as unqiue and Jewish. Jews suffered the most. That's what they say. This Jpost article pretty much proves my point. The guy is getting all upset over the fact that the Jews are 'demoted' and the memorial is now dedicated to all. "Oy Vey! How dare ze memorialize ze goyim who perished! Ze Jews suffered more! Zees iz an outrage!"

When you disect even the propaganda passed off as 'history' and 'fact' you realize that there is nothing uniquely Jewish about it. It was a war, a lot of people died. These stories about Jewish being deliberately targeted don't make a whole lot of sense. If Poles are deliberately targeted, I doubt they said "let's air-bomb the Jewish areas first.. we hate them more".

The 'death camp' death tolls for the camps that weren't liberated are based on prisoner totals. A 100% extermination rate is assumed, as is a majority-Jewish amount of prisoners. There is no good evidence that supports that these places existed the way we are led to believe, no good evidence how many prisoners were encamped, and no proof whatsoever that all were killed or that most were Jewish.

The Holocaust itself acknowledges that more non-Jews may have died than the Jews, with specifically high estimates for Romani and Poles. But hey, more Jews died then them. Screw the non-Jews! Jews suffered the most! Armenian genocide? You call that a genocide? Call us back at 6 million.

These estimates mostly do not include the people who died as a result of warfare.... unless they were Jews. It's only unique because it's been made unique. You can spin numbers any way you like. In this case they are likely exagerrating and spinning the numbers into an illusion that Jews suffered the most, unqiuely. This is not true, it's just number spinning. You could make the same argument with Poles and make a unqiue Poleocaust if you want. The fact that Poland has not stooped to such a level of doing just that is commendable.

They could have an industry of their own, generating sympathy along with billions of dollars. The Poleocaust. Those Nazi monsters delieberately targeted Poles. They invaded Poland! They exterminated millions of Poles in camps and in warfare. This is a unique event in history, a uniquely Polish event. Because Poles were specifically targeted. The Poleocaust can go for an even higher score by including the Jews, but not mentioning that they were Jewish. Just that they were Poles.

That's actually not a bad idea, I have Polish ancestry. I should create such an industry for commercial gain. Create Poleocaust museums all over the world, label people who make Polish jokes or hate Poles as anti-SKImetic. Borrow holohoax elements as our own because they overlap. Tell the holohoax industry that we are not at odd with them because we acknowledge the suffering of the Polish Jews. If they argue, then they are anti-skimetic Poleocaust deniers.

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The story of Anka Bergman, who gave birth to her baby daughter Eva in a Nazi concentration camp. During her pregnancy, Anka witnessed the horrors of Auschwitz and endured six months of forced labour. If the Nazis found a woman was pregnant, she could be sent straight to the gas chambers. Amazingly, Anka's pregnancy went unnoticed for months. Anka eventually gave birth - on the day she arrived at an extermination camp. Anka weighed just five stone and was on the brink of starvation; baby Eva weighed just three pounds. Remarkably, both mother and daughter survived, and are living in Cambridge.
Amazing remarkable!

Bullshit lies.
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So what do neo nazis and nazi fans think the camps were for then?

What was the long term plan for the inhabitants of these places?

Death is my conclusion either in the short term or long term,but definitely death with no procreation.
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Old 17-02-2012, 11:38 AM   #220
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So what do neo nazis and nazi fans think the camps were for then?
I am neither of your labels, but I feel qualified to answer nonetheless.

Work camps, comparable with US boot camps, minus the ridiculous shouting of some supervising morons. Some were transit camps for jews according to Haavara agreement but stopped due to british warmongering.

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What was the long term plan for the inhabitants of these places?
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To expel the jews, and to rid Germany of the red communist terrorist plague, corruption, starvation due to Versailles dictate and humiliation.


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Death is my conclusion either in the short term or long term,but definitely death with no procreation.
Everybody dies at some point in time.
See above for answer.

Feel free to ask more questions.

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