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Old 27-04-2016, 09:59 AM   #61
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Some care should be taken in posting on this subject, it is still subject to legal process, and it would be a shame if anyone found themselves in trouble.
is RT going to get in trouble for posting an article about an investigation into the corrosive effect of freemasonry on the police?
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Old 27-04-2016, 10:03 AM   #62
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is RT going to get in trouble for posting an article about an investigation into the corrosive effect of freemasonry on the police?
No, they are not subject to English Law - People repeating the point may well be so.
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Old 27-04-2016, 10:06 AM   #63
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The Immediate Aftermath to Hillsborough in 1989

The media are saying they were told lies by the police, but this is just an excuse. Investigative journalism has been dying for decades.

Editors and journalists, the latter who fear for their livelihoods if they step out of line, increasingly don't want to find out the truth. They want the salacious headlines, but what is even more sinister is the people who own or control nearly all of MSM are one of the same with this evil elite who govern the world.

"Media coverage of Hillsborough has had significant consequences on a number of levels. This section will argue how the media informed and potentially influenced the outcome of legal cases. It will also be argued that the consequences were far reaching by attacking, not only those involved in the Disaster but Liverpool in general, adding to the already negative reputation of its people.

The coverage of the Hillsborough Disaster brought a barrage of complaints to the door of the Press Council. However all this succeeded in doing was highlighting the inadequacy of the Press Council as a medium for dealing with complaints."

Excerpt from a very good article about the press involvement:

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/media.shtm

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Old 27-04-2016, 10:08 AM   #64
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No, they are not subject to English Law - People repeating the point may well be so.
sounds like a threat to me

7 hills you say? like the 7 stages of initiation?

7 spiralled templar initaition well:

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Old 27-04-2016, 10:10 AM   #65
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sounds like a threat to me

I am making the sensible point that commenting on something still involved in the legal process should be done with care.
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Old 27-04-2016, 10:14 AM   #66
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I am making the sensible point that commenting on something still involved in the legal process should be done with care.
i just posted a newspaper article

you should take up your complaint with RT unless you have an issue with free speech in the UK?
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Old 27-04-2016, 10:17 AM   #67
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now you can all harp on about the 'police' and thatcher and turnstiles and licences etc

but if you don't zero in on where this is all coming from you will miss your target and there will be NO JUSTICE and NO CHANGE in this country

wise up and speak up
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Old 27-04-2016, 10:26 AM   #68
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now you can all harp on about the 'police' and thatcher and turnstiles and licences etc

but if you don't zero in on where this is all coming from you will miss your target and there will be NO JUSTICE and NO CHANGE in this country

wise up and speak up
And it's not just the royal family as most people on here know, but not Joe Public .... yet.

The royal family's current involvement in Freemasonry was emphasized in March 2013, when the Queen was photographed leaving King Edward VII's hospital accompanied by a nurse where a masonic belt buckle.. The Royal Masonic Hospital stopped existing in 1992 but its belt buckles are apparently still worn by “elite” nurses such as the one who treated the queen.


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Old 27-04-2016, 10:31 AM   #69
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And it's not just the royal family as most people on here know, but not Joe Public .... yet.

The royal family's current involvement in Freemasonry was emphasized in March 2013, when the Queen was photographed leaving King Edward VII's hospital accompanied by a nurse where a masonic belt buckle.. The Royal Masonic Hospital stopped existing in 1992 but its belt buckles are apparently still worn by “elite” nurses such as the one who treated the queen.


freemasonic 'charity' goes to freemasonic groups like masonic hospitals so that their people can get the best of everything. You have to have a fair amount of disposable cash to be involved in freemasonry to pay the dues, buy the gear and attend all the events. So if you have money you get the perks

Doesn't that just sum up modern day britain as we move backwards towards fuedalism where we are seeing a 2 tier britain emerge with a tollbooth economy where only the rich will get the best health care, education, transport, housing etc. Social mobility has ground to a halt and meritocracy is dead

They are a hierarchical order of ritualistic arse kissers and the royals are the perfect figurehead for that kind of mentality. It ain't no brotherhood of man...it's a brotherhood of members

It's not transparent, it's not accountable and its undemocratic...and people wonder why the country is going to shit
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Old 27-04-2016, 11:11 AM   #70
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From icke's headlines today:

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Old 27-04-2016, 01:45 PM   #71
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A beautiful tribute, to honour those who can rest in peace at last. Thank you for sharing this, grannie 27
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Old 27-04-2016, 02:02 PM   #72
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For my friend and all of the 96.

In Lak'ech (I am another yourself)



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Old 27-04-2016, 03:28 PM   #73
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Old 27-04-2016, 03:30 PM   #74
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Re Thatchers involvement... It was South Yorkshire police who helped bring the miners strike to its knees in the mid 80s and Thatcher wanted that more than anything. She was bound to support the cover up, she owed them
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Old 27-04-2016, 03:35 PM   #75
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A brief summary is that the problem runs deeper than the district police

It was covered up at governmental level and by the media. In other words the whole political establishment were involved
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just heard South Yorks chief constable has been suspended - whether this relates to the day or cover up I don't know
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Old 27-04-2016, 05:02 PM   #77
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Live coverage on Radio Merseyside ......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radiomerseyside


sounds like a great crowd , wish I could have gone ....
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Why are some people saying Hillsborough was a conspiracy theory that "was proven right"?. Hillsborough was not a conspiracy, a cover up yes but not a conspiracy. Conspiracies are events that have been conspired or planned in advance well before an event takes place. Noone higher up in the establishment planned it to happen as if there was some big agenda or problem, reaction, solution at work. Drawing paralells between Hillsborough and say 9/11 and saying Hillsborough too was a conspiracy but one that has been proven true due to public demand for truth is just silly IMO. The big difference is that families involved in the tragedy of Hillsborough have always demanded the truth from day one, because they knew the truth was being held and there was injustice.

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Why are some people saying Hillsborough was a conspiracy theory that "was proven right"?. Hillsborough was not a conspiracy, a cover up yes but not a conspiracy. Conspiracies are events that have been conspired or planned in advance well before an event takes place. Noone higher up in the establishment planned it to happen as if there was some big agenda or problem, reaction, solution at work.
I agree ,it was a cover up and a white wash , but not planned in advance .

Conspire ...act in unison or agreement and in secret towards a deceitful or illegal purpose.

See we all thought(had a theory") people "Conspired" to cover up what happened ....

Conspiracy theory does not always mean a planned event or false flag ...
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Old 27-04-2016, 07:35 PM   #80
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27 years to get justice, that is what you are up against. Some family members died on the road to justice. Others had to make it their life's work to get it.

In a response to an article on Bernard Ingham, one of the public put it best.

what you are all missing here is that people like him and his kind do not care about people like you and I, and never did and never will, we are only here to do there bidding and when 1 or 96 die what's the big deal, they have so many more that they can use, and if you think that this verdict in way changes how they feel about us you are wrong, sure they will say, what a shame it was and justice has been served, but they do not care, that is what is expected of them to say and they know it, they do not care, we are chattel, and they know it, at least the families of the dead got their justice and the world knows they were not animals but family members who went to a football game and did not come home because of negligence.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sir-bernard-ingham-who-labelled-7837120
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