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Old 14-01-2013, 06:48 PM   #40641
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I was wondering about that, saves me checking thanks

I wonder if this man was similarly particular.

Any idea what tartan that is ?

Although I do have Scottish ancestry I'm no expert on tartan and that picture is a bit blurry - bear in mind some look very similar at first glance. But, and this could be the key if someone does identify it, I think you'll find that most Scots are the same regarding what I said earlier - wearing the wrong tartan is not the done thing. So, if we can identify the tartan...
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Old 14-01-2013, 06:49 PM   #40642
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This post should be of interest to people - http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2.../14/spartacus/
Thanks, useful.

May i quote from your good blog

''Until two or three years ago, Sri Lanka was being offered as the paedophiles paradise - to honour that has now developed on the Philippines.
. A number of countries that have previously been omitted due to a lack of accurate information are included this year Burma has come. In (‘the Burmese is a true friend’) and Swaziland (no laws, no one in prison) is on the way China and Russia are always a problem since so few people of ‘persuasion that’ bother to holiday there, but even more surprising are the listings for Albania, Rwanda, St Bartholomew and Micronesia (eight out of ten guys available in exchange for a case of beer)!.''

Remember who headed out there last month?



Now in Vietnam too.
Surely he's had time to sample the minced shrimp and egg rolls by now?!
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Old 14-01-2013, 06:51 PM   #40643
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Mark phillips

Bet me to it, I was just going to say Mark Philips, I could of sworn blind I have seen him with a tartan hat, like that, in photos years ago.
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Old 14-01-2013, 06:56 PM   #40644
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← BREAKING STEVE MESSHAM: Severely depressed and subjected to constant harrassmentEUROBLOWN: Killing time is an oxymoron →
NOVEMBER 14, 2012 · 6:41 PM ↓ Jump to Comments
Pandora’s box of British paedophiles: why the unknown nature of the contents keeps the lid on them.
Part Two of today’s Slog Special unveils the key four-letter word:
FEAR
Masons perform odd rituals, bullies choose positions of power, and exclusive clubs tolerate unspeakable practices. But the central truth I have arrived at in relation to institutional paedophilia is that the conspiracy element stops where the perpetrators end, and the tolerators begin. One simple thing stops most senior public in public life from opening up the sexual abuse of children in our systemic lives: fear of unforeseen consequences.

They are rarely if ever ‘in on it’. The reality is, they are scared of how far the tentacles will reach.
Great article, the full URL for it is :

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012/11/...e-lid-on-them/

The only quibbles I'd have with the piece are

1) It downplays the role of the intelligence services - 'foreign blackmail' is the least of it. What about their role at Kincora? We all know by now that N. Ireland has for years served as an initial testing ground for TPTB.

2) 'The entire social contract between government and citizen could be blown apart' : those who have perpetrated - and then covered up - this massive scandal have surely already done that.

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Old 14-01-2013, 06:57 PM   #40645
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Received a PM - 'Eric Sykes wore one like that'.
But he also wore very thick rimmed black specs - he was very deaf (in early age) and his hearing aids in the arms of the glasses.
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Old 14-01-2013, 06:57 PM   #40646
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Sorry but jackie Stewart 1976 racing helmet had red tartan band on it so it could be him
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:01 PM   #40647
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Bet me to it, I was just going to say Mark Philips, I could of sworn blind I have seen him with a tartan hat, like that, in photos years ago.
Me too that's why I posted, he always wore one hat or other maybe he was shy re hair thinning
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:03 PM   #40648
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It looks like the Royal Stewart Tartan.

http://www.scotchcorner.com/tartan-index.html

There's so many that look alike.
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:04 PM   #40649
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Gillings Report
Leveson Enquiry

Gillings arrest at Esthers house
Leverson..the Jewish female line of Esther

Crowley
ted heath
Savile
BBC
NSPCC

Savile Club

thinking outloud
Who was that very clever dude who said ''No CoInKydinKs''
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:04 PM   #40650
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So if we think back to 1968 and 69 there were attempts from ordinary welshmen to remove Prince Charles. The efforts made to suppress the true Welsh of Glyndwrs lands are subtle. Could there be a fear that if Scotland gains independence Wales may follow and rightful Heirs to the lands of Glyndwr will come forward. Cardiff may not actually be located within the true lands of Wales so may remain English, but without the powerbase of a capital Glyndwrs lands could not survive in the 21st Century.
If Cardiff is to be the 'New London', I think you'll be hearing more Bengali, Polish and Somali than Welsh.
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:09 PM   #40651
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Greetings everybody. Regarding Savile's alleged satanic activities, I wonder are people aware of this article? It alleges people connected to Savile conducted satanic rituals on the Yorkshire moors. Also talk of a dungeon with a whipping post in Whitby. Could somebody forward this link to the Sunday Express journalist James Fielding, he appealed for info on Savile's activities but I don't have an email address for him?

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Given the now widespread allegations against Jimmy Savile of sexual abuse, rape, beatings and necrophilia, his basement ‘dungeon’ in Leeds, the ‘chamber’ in Whitby (with it’s whipping-post), the allegations of sex-and-drugs sessions and the al fresco ‘satanic rituals’ on the edge of the moors – to say nothing of the on-going investigations by six Police Forces over a period of fifty years, it is extremely difficult to believe that North Yorkshire Police in the Scarborough/Whitby area could conceivably have been “unaware” (how often we hear that) of the existence and activities of the Savile set – ‘The Club’ – and its central position in much of the foregoing. Or its high-profile membership.
http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/savile-...-party-animals
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:09 PM   #40652
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Re: Mary Moss docs.

Just had a look at that
Welcome to the Madlands blog and he's wrote a letter to us.

http://www.madlands.co.uk/dear-icke-forum/

Well, he's obviously right isn't he because he says so himself.
He obviously gave up doing any helicopter investigating.
Probably too busy tweeting.
You should get out for a walk mate.

Your point regarding dates.
Carol Kasir according to reports owned the guest house between 1979 and 1982.
Did she ?
Only according to what we so far know.The raid was in 1982, but she could have continued to own it well after that.That needs to be established.Yes.

The names and job descriptions, the way I read it does not relate to the times of their visits but to describe them as they were known at the time the evidence was taken or what they were possibly best known for.

[email protected] Britt£n - then Ho?e [email protected]
Ray Wyre - Gracewell Clinic being examples.

Wyre didn't open Gracewell until 1988.

So, Mr Madlands you keep digging and we'll do the same eh.
It's not a competition you know and I'm sure we all want the truth.
So stop slagging off the good folks on here who are putting a great deal of effort into finding that truth,and all with limited resources.

You're tag line;
Current Affairs,Social Commentary and Utter Rubbish from this UK blog.

You got the last bit right.

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Old 14-01-2013, 07:10 PM   #40653
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Greetings everybody. Regarding Savile's alleged satanic activities, I wonder are people aware of this article? It alleges people connected to Savile conducted satanic rituals on the Yorkshire moors. Also talk of a dungeon with a whipping post in Whitby. Could somebody forward this link to the Sunday Express journalist James Fielding, he appealed for info on Savile's activities but I don't have an email address for him?

http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/savile-...-party-animals
Interesting - and who was MP for Whitby before turning Eurocrat?
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:15 PM   #40654
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Back from mud-wading with the hounds and I am totally swept away with how many links have been established - evidenced - connected.

It wholly explains this...............

In a field with two kissing gates - sliding in mud under a chemtrailed sky.

I thought of Trafficker and Harry_Brown posts.

I have been there too.

I talked to my dad who passed when I was far too young. He always answered me when I questioned 'why'?. He loved debate.

I asked him if he had met Anders and to look out for him. They would have much to discuss to the enjoyment of both.

As I mused I heard the sound of a kissing gate shut. I looked. No one was there.

I heard the sound of another kissing gate shut. I looked. No one was there.

The sun broke through and a flock of birds took to flight screaming and squawking. Their wings beat away the poisons in the clouds.

The sky became blue and the sun shone bright.


The two kisses were sent to pass onto all you amazing people. Our calls for justice and a clean up of the filth WILL be heard
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I don't think there's one jot of derailing in your posts.

Actually, they go to the heart of the scandalous environment that allows abuse (of all forms) to be perpetrated upon ordinary, decent people whilst TPTB protect and cosset criminals and psychopaths.

You're talking about how to protect oneself when whistleblowing and/or righting wrongs. An entirely necessary concomitant theme in this thread.

Like you, I will never work for a charity again (well, I do actually pro bono, but it's one whose unpaid chair, president and trustees I know very well and can vouch for 100%).

Absolutely spot on for me!

It's all connected.

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Interesting circa 1994

A MAN who sexually assaulted a girl of five in a swimming pool at Esther Rantzen's country home was jailed for 18 months yesterday.
Robert Gillings, 63, of Addlestone, Surrey, was earlier convicted on two counts of indecently assaulting the girl, after a trial at Guildford Crown Court.

Ms Rantzen, television presenter and ChildLine campaigner, was not present at her house in the New Forest, Hampshire, at the time of the assault last August but had lent it to friends. Gillings, a former British Airways engineer, and his wife were invited by the girl's parents to visit them there.

The victim had told the court Gillings repeatedly assaulted her before the New Forest visit. 'He had said that if I told mummy he would kill her,' she said.

Questioned about the incident in the swimming pool, Gillings had told police: 'We were playing tag at the time, swimming backwards and forwards. It was just a bit of fun - my fingers caught hold of her bikini just at the bottom or the side somewhere.'

The jury returned majority verdicts of guilty on two charges of indecent assault, one of which took place at Ms Rantzen's house. They cleared him on two other charges.

Anne Cotcher, for the defence, told the court yesterday that Gillings refused to accept he was guilty. She said: 'This is not a man who . . . aimed to hoodwink the jury. He is sure in his own mind what's happened. He accepts, though, that the jury had taken a different view and he must be punished.'

Judge John Bull said the incident at Ms Rantzen's home was the culmination of a year of repeated assaults. Because both charges against Gillings were of a sexual nature against a five-year- old entrusted to him, he said only a custodial sentence would suffice.

Do you have a link bella? (Everyone - please include links when copy and pasting thanks!)

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Hi peeps..sorry I have had too deal with family issues over the last few day BUT have been trying to keep up with the great posts..with major fail

BUT having a conversation with my sister today regarding "What have I been doing" so told her and got onto "The List" from Mary Moss..mentioned CR was on the list

AND she came out with this "Oh you need to talk too .......(a mutual friend), they told her years ago that as part of their duties they had to check CR's credit card statements and there were transactions regarding "Rent Boys"!! Well have emailed our mutual friend to get clarification!! Watch this space

Plus whilst driving up from my hometown back home..this song came on

Sound of Silence- Simon and Garfunkel, would love to know how to post link to you tube.. But here are the Lyrics and I think it would be great for the video..powerful words!!

That would be absolutely perfect for a video of Savile with the royals and all his other high-establishment friends who haven't said a word imo. Have you posted on the video thread with that? I'm beginning to think a few small simple vids focussing on one problem aspect of the whole thing, which can be tweeted immediately, rather than one all-encompassing vid (which would be impossible).

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ER a mason

When Cornelius Cardew died in December 1981, a journalist working for the Times speculated that this might be the start of a large number of killings of prominent left-wing intellectuals, this being due to the extreme wrong-wing of the Benighted Kingdom romping off on a power-drunk ego trip upon the coming to power of the tall sTories. Cornelius had been a composer of atonal music, which happens to be one of this writer’s enthusiasms, and Esther Rantzen was, later on in the decade of the 1980s to express considerable annoyance at this type of dissonant composition, transmitting herself on television in an episode of That’s Life attending a rehearsal of an atonal composition, asking questions of the musicians in such a manner as to assume of the viewer this utter ridiculousness of this knotted mass of noise.
Esther Rantzen is probably the most famous, known, female Mason, or whatever that female version of the Masons is.
Again bella, do you have the link, pretty please?

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Esther Rantzen claims she was abused as a young child by a male member of her own family.


Link? /broken record

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Old 14-01-2013, 07:15 PM   #40655
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Hell yeah!

Just felt like sharing this little story incidentally.

I went down to London couple years back.
My sister and I hunted out this little chocolate shop down a little side street nr Oxford Road we had heard about.

It was a reasonably nice day so we called in at a little independent coffee shop next door and sat on the terrace drinking.

Soon we become aware of a moped going very slowly up and down the road, his head turning to look at us every now and then.

Then some man in casual dress stops the moped on the other side of the road, directly opposite, to have a chat with him, like he knows him. That man has a quick glance at us too. At this point we are both puzzled and a little bit uneasy. There's a radio he's speaking into too.

Then an armed policeman emerges from a recessed gate/entry and talks to them both!

Then a blacked out car follows.

We felt very uncomfortable, and ask the staff what was going on, what is this place? The owner said it was where Tony Blair had (one of his) many residences! He was there at the moment; they were obviously all specialist protection and god knows what else. Wonder how much public money was/is wasted on that man?

And just like bloody me to hunt out a tiny little chocolate shop only to be watching Tony bloody Blair's mansion!!

Next trip : D77 visits Rolf.
Is that the one near Marble Arch? It's where Tyburn gallows used to be, where they hung, drew and quartered traitors. Convenient, just a minute or two from Miranda's house.

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Old 14-01-2013, 07:19 PM   #40656
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Re: Mary Moss docs.

Just had a look at that
Welcome to the Madlands blog and he's wrote a letter to us.

http://www.madlands.co.uk/dear-icke-forum/

Well, he's obviously right isn't he because he says so himself.
He obviously gave up doing any helicopter investigating.
Probably too busy tweeting.
You should get out for a walk mate.

Your point regarding dates.
Carol Kasir according to reports owned the guest house between 1979 and 1982.
Did she ?
Only according to what we so far know.The raid was in 1982, but she could have continued to own it well after that.That needs to be established.Yes.

The names and job descriptions, the way I read it does not relate to the times of their visits but to describe them as they were known at the time the evidence was taken or what they were possibly best known for.

[email protected] Britt£n - then Ho?e [email protected]
Ray Wyre - Gracewell Clinic being examples.

Wyre didn't open Gracewell until 1988.

So, Mr Madlands you keep digging and we'll do the same eh.
It's not a competition you know and I'm sure we all want the truth.
So stop slagging off the good folks on here who are putting a great deal of effort into finding that truth,and all with limited resources.

You're tag line;
Current Affairs,Social Commentary and Utter Rubbish from this UK blog.

You got the last bit right.
Ha!!!

Well Im proud to say he quoted me in the opener!!
Yes I did say that and I meant it!!!
Where is my post?
He didnt post it!
He said 'waiting for moderation!!

There.
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:20 PM   #40657
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Greetings everybody. Regarding Savile's alleged satanic activities, I wonder are people aware of this article? It alleges people connected to Savile conducted satanic rituals on the Yorkshire moors. Also talk of a dungeon with a whipping post in Whitby. Could somebody forward this link to the Sunday Express journalist James Fielding, he appealed for info on Savile's activities but I don't have an email address for him?

http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/savile-...-party-animals

There's also the anecdote involving Frankie Howerd telling someone that Savile and Tom Driberg were satanists who abused children. And the photos of Savile in his robe and in a mask. Where did that mask photo go, can't find it. I know Valerie Sineson has a poor reputation, and works for Tavistock, but I certainly believe that Savile was in a satanic ring and that many senior establishment figures were/are involved.
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:24 PM   #40658
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Interesting - and who was MP for Whitby before turning Eurocrat?
It seems to be mostly local politicians that suspicion is cast on. A Peter Jaconelli is mentioned now deceased.

This is a further extract from the article.

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Equipped with camera and infra-red film, they scooped pictures of the said ‘naked satanic ritual’ and presented an explosive illustrated story to their editor at the local paper, who, having at first waxed highly enthusiastic, quickly performed a volte face and ‘buried’ it – because (they were told) of the ‘political sensitivity’ of some of the participants . . .

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Old 14-01-2013, 07:25 PM   #40659
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The nearest to that IMO in colour is one of these.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ir...w=1440&bih=766

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Old 14-01-2013, 07:25 PM   #40660
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There's a tartan search here

http://www.scotlandshop.com/tartan-finder.aspx

But I can't see a similar one (looks orange/pink to me?)
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