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Old 06-08-2014, 05:59 PM   #201
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Man fails because he thinks of everything in terms of man and the words of men.

You intently study and learn a craft that was intrinsically lacking when it was made by men. Men who knew nothing of the other species
who are here all the time and have been stewarding us for hundreds of thousands of years.

I know you will shout and bleat and mock, but there is the bare truth for you.
Only some type of men

Even religion does not hold all the answers.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:02 PM   #202
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But I am incredulous that Masonry teaches nothing about alien life and interaction with people on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years!!

This is for me why the Masonic teachings have no interest. It has a limited bandwidth of knowledge and understanding.
Will the Masons adopt alien presence within its doctrines as indeed the Catholic church is preparing for disclosure? Albeit a limited and heavily controlled one.

Adapt and survive surely?
Why should it teach about alien life? its meant to be a set of teachings on personal perfection modelled on the allegory of the building of Solomons temple. Why should anything alien come into that?

Nobody is saying that freemasons cannot have a belief system that incorporates aliens. That is a personal choice.

Nobody is saying that freemasonry has to have an answer for everything in the way that the church feel they have to do in order to impose their will on people.
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Only some type of men

Even religion does not hold all the answers.


Religion is a means of control and indoctrination, just another element of the deception.

The Anglican and RC church is about as close to Godliness as my arse.
They are intrinsically toxic.

So what is the Masonic leadership doing to prepare for disclosure of alien co-existance with us and covert liaison with the military ?
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Old 06-08-2014, 10:28 PM   #204
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Why should it teach about alien life? its meant to be a set of teachings on personal perfection modelled on the allegory of the building of Solomons temple. Why should anything alien come into that?

Nobody is saying that freemasons cannot have a belief system that incorporates aliens. That is a personal choice.

Nobody is saying that freemasonry has to have an answer for everything in the way that the church feel they have to do in order to impose their will on people.

The rebuilding of Soloman's Temple is a good thing?
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How can you expect to learn how to become some ancient model of personal perfection when you don't even know who made us?

We arent even human, we are a parts bin special.
We have a genetically defective housing that can never achieve prefection in its current form.
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Old 06-08-2014, 11:09 PM   #206
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How can you expect to learn how to become some ancient model of personal perfection when you don't even know who made us?
Because this ancient aliens is a theory, a faith you hold. We don't need to believe in your beliefs to strive for perfection.
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Because this ancient aliens is a theory, a faith you hold. We don't need to believe in your beliefs to strive for perfection.
What will the Masonic movement do when disclosure happens?
Because all of your learned theology will be complete bollocks.
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You guys realy are just A-typical of the rest of the programmed hive mind.
Fuck ! surprised me just a little.
You are just like the rest.

By the way, welcome to the DIF where alien contact and co-existence is one of our key beliefs.

But you forget that some of us have had direct contact. Not belief, but actual experience.

The ex Canadian Minister of Defence is right about the "tall whites" in the mid 1960s.
I met them.
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Old 07-08-2014, 05:34 PM   #209
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What will the Masonic movement do when disclosure happens?
Because all of your learned theology will be complete bollocks.
Well, the lessons, values, principles, and tenets of Freemasonry do not require the existence of aliens nor will they change.
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Old 07-08-2014, 05:37 PM   #210
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Because this ancient aliens is a theory, a faith you hold. We don't need to believe in your beliefs to strive for perfection.
A 101 year history and he still never knew the answers to the everlasting riddles on offer.



To believe is to cease thinking for yourself, initiated is the same as believe.

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What will the Masonic movement do when disclosure happens?
Because all of your learned theology will be complete bollocks.
Theology is not learned, it is a mystery, thus leads the initiate in any direction but a true one.
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Well, the lessons, values, principles, and tenets of Freemasonry do not require the existence of aliens nor will they change.
Well you guys are one of the mainstays of the program.
No worries, carry on and die in ignorance the same as all the other hiveminds.
It's a free choice, I choose not to die in emotional slavery to a false program.
I see clearly through the lies and deceptions. Your dogma prevents you.
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Old 07-08-2014, 05:54 PM   #213
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Religion is a means of control and indoctrination, just another element of the deception.

The Anglican and RC church is about as close to Godliness as my arse.
They are intrinsically toxic.

So what is the Masonic leadership doing to prepare for disclosure of alien co-existance with us and covert liaison with the military ?
No it doesn't, that is just the common result of organised religion.

What has any of that got to do with freemasonry? as I said before, why should they have answers for such things?
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You guys realy are just A-typical of the rest of the programmed hive mind.
Fuck ! surprised me just a little.
You are just like the rest.

By the way, welcome to the DIF where alien contact and co-existence is one of our key beliefs.

But you forget that some of us have had direct contact. Not belief, but actual experience.

The ex Canadian Minister of Defence is right about the "tall whites" in the mid 1960s.
I met them.
Your alternative beliefs do not make you any more enlightened though!

I just don't get why you think freemasonry should be involved in any way? it is just absurd
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The rebuilding of Soloman's Temple is a good thing?
OMFG, are you totally incapable of understanding symbolism?

It is the temple of the self, based on values common to all beliefs.

Don't you understand the idea of the temple must be built before the spirit can dwell within it or are you just trying to make it some racial issue?
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Well you guys are one of the mainstays of the program.
No worries, carry on and die in ignorance the same as all the other hiveminds.
It's a free choice, I choose not to die in emotional slavery to a false program.
I see clearly through the lies and deceptions. Your dogma prevents you.
You display an alternative form of dogma, in which people are expected to believe in aliens based on some peoples claims to have seen them. You then disregard outsiders and non-believers and attribute negative labels to them.
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Theology is not learned, it is a mystery, thus leads the initiate in any direction but a true one.
the-ology is a study of "god."
your statement makes zero sense.
you really do need to invest in a good dictionary.

now, it you were to say, "'god' is not learned. it is a mystery," you would be closer to the truth.

noun (plural theologies)
1The study of the nature of God and religious belief
Origin
late Middle English (originally applying only to Christianity): from French théologie, from Latin theologia, from Greek, from theos 'god' + -logia (see -logy).

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A 101 year history and he still never knew the answers to the everlasting riddles on offer.



To believe is to cease thinking for yourself, initiated is the same as believe.
No it isn't. That is totally ignorant of you. Initiation means a beginning. It refers to the beginning of the path of self perfection generally.
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What will the Masonic movement do when disclosure happens?
Because all of your learned theology will be complete bollocks.
And how is that? if it is based on sound principles of being and how to perfect the self then how can that be proven bollocks if it makes people better?

By all means educate us to how it will all come crashing down when Spock teleports into the lodge.

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How can you expect to learn how to become some ancient model of personal perfection when you don't even know who made us?

We arent even human, we are a parts bin special.
We have a genetically defective housing that can never achieve prefection in its current form.
And I thought it was all a matrix that we were trapped in apparently

Maybe I should use the term positive enhancement instead of perfection as that is quite a vague term but we can all appreciate the growth into positive/ enlightened being.

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