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Old 18-01-2019, 05:24 PM   #201
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whether or not someone is supporting the agenda of the rothschild cabal is really a matter that is down to their individual conscience
I meant the 'black sheep', and 'oder' is German 'or' like in 'or then?'... I didn't make a typo, just I like that German expression...

a 3 seconds difference between our two posts and it's not the first time...
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Old 18-01-2019, 05:44 PM   #202
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The protests are going to be huge tomorrow. The French people have a real chance of bringing down the Macron government.
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Old 18-01-2019, 05:49 PM   #203
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When I said it would be worth checking foreign History books, because what I suggested you can’t even find alluded to on the Western Web.

Nothing is one and there are always competition and war within any organization where clans never fail to emerge. It’s even more true and unavoidable when a branch of the organization operating abroad seeks to get independency and sovereignty on its territory of exile.

Also no one is ever plain wrong or plain right, so I found confirmation that the Rothschild ‘lost’ the two world wars to the Rockefeller. As I suggested it too it was over oil and the Baku fields…
the rockefellers have divested from fossil fuels because they are gearing up towards the 'green economy'

the rothschilds have a weather prediction service because i suggest the cabal is manipulating the weather and knows what it is going to do. Also weather manipulation can be used to try and create a case for 'climate change' so that the cabal can justify greater global controls

Both families are investing now in crypto currencies ie digital currency

the rockefellers and rothschilds are not competing. They are part of the same cabal with the same goals. They are both branches of the same family
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Old 18-01-2019, 06:13 PM   #204
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The protests are going to be huge tomorrow. The French people have a real chance of bringing down the Macron government.
I almost wrote ThePresident while login in....

Micron's been running a seduction campaign meeting country mayors these last days... the 'red scarf' will 'counter-protest' next 27th in Paris...
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the rockefellers and rothschilds are not competing.
no longer... please say 'no longer' and I'll have a good night... been having two bad ones lately...
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no longer... please say 'no longer' and I'll have a good night... been having two bad ones lately...
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they were never opposed to each other; get this idea that they are competing out of your head! They are all on-message with the agenda

the rockefellers name was rogenfelder and they came from Germany the same as the rothschilds

The directorates of JP Morgan, Kuhn and Loeb, lazard freres, lehman brothers and goldman sachs are all inter-locked

they operate through the council on foreign relations which is the american arm of the round table group; the british arm is chatham house (RIIA)

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the rockefellers name was rogenfelder and they came from Germany the same as the rothschilds
now it's getting interesting... I get it well that they weren't Amerindians but it seems I can't find this name anywhere else but associated to the one of Rockefeller.

I'll check further and find a means to contradict you...


By the way you don't believe what the Russian historian stated then ? that the Russian had handed Baku to the Rockefeller instead of the Rothschild ? That's what I guess the American came here for anyway, oil and not to 'liberate' anyone so why didn't the Rockefeller just let the Rothschild make the deal if they were not competing ?

That was for WWI and then who backed the ‘Nazi’ ? who went to Saudi Arabia to make the first deals ?

Eventually who destroyed Germany to delete all tracks and stop her from making synthetic oil ?
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Police remove helmets in solidarity with protesters of the "Yellow jackets".


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The yellow jackets movement in Canada. We’re are we going as Canadians.


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PARIS, France – In spite of the leftist/globalist claim that the Yellow Vest’s announced “bank run” will not work and will have no effect on French banks or on the Euro (in spite of the fact that the Euro has taken a slight hit, and appears to some analysts to be suffering from a “short squeeze”), the bank run protest seems to be having effects and causing ripples as far as Ireland and Canada.
Ireland has restricted contactless and online payments on a number of its debit cards, claiming they fear “fraud,” but has so far refused to state how many customers may be affected by this halt in ability to use their own funds as they please.
Also, over the weekend, the Royal Bank of Canada announced “maintenance” which would affect both business and personal accounts. They made clear that the “maintenance” may result in “unforeseen circumstances”:
The effect of the French bank run on Canadian banks can not be understated. Canadian banks reportedly went bankrupt in 2008 and allegedly have stopped marking their books as a result. They had to go begging to the US Fed to receive over $114bn USD in bailout funds, which is approximately 150% of the $700bn US bailout when considered proportionally to their population. CDIC, the Canadian equivalent of the FDIC, allegedly does not have the funds it would need to cover a bank run. Many Canadian banking instruments no longer have CDIC protection:

These effects, coupled with reports that French banks are also restricting or even denying withdrawals from many of their customers, makes clear that the French bank run is indeed working, in spite of the leftist/globalist narrative and near-complete media blackout.
It is also important to note that the bank run appears to have had such an effect on Macron and the EU, that they are now allegedly ordering German/EU mercenaries to dress up as French police and fire live ammunition into crowds of unarmed, retreating protesters, seemingly with orders to fire for direct headshots on the unarmed, retreating civilians.
https://www.dailycrusader.com/2019/0...nd-and-canada/
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PARIS, France – As reported by the Clover Chronicle, disturbing footage from France is now showing retreating protesters being shot in the head by French police.
The footage, uploaded by British journalist Mark Braithwaite, is very disturbing: In it, one can clearly see unarmed Yellow Vest protesters who are retreating while being fired upon by French police, one of whom scores a headshot on an unarmed, retreating protester:

Many reports coming out of France now indicate that these “police” officers are not French gendarmes at all, but actually German/EU military forces who have been hired by Macron’s regime to enforce their totalitarian laws and to crack down on the protesters, who are seeking a reduction in taxes and a reduction in net migration which is draining their welfare state and lowering the wages of French citizens, leaving honest, hardworking Frenchmen unable to feed their families.
Leftist talking heads claim that the alleged Yellow Vest Bank Run will have no actual effect on the banks: If this were true, however, the French regime would have no reason to hire German/EU mercenaries and dress them up as gendarmes to oppress the French citizens.
This theory that the “police” are not gendarmes, but are German/EU mercenaries, makes sense when one considers that, while the “police” are allegedly using less-lethal rubber bullets, they are firing directly at protesters heads, including at their eyes. While rubber bullets are technically “less-lethal”, a direct headshot is capable of killing someone. A well-trained German/EU soldier would certainly know this and it seems they are using this knowledge to full effect. Further, there is no reason whatsoever to fire upon an unarmed protester who is in the process of retreating, except to damage them and demoralize them and attempt to break their spirits.
Make no mistake, Frenchman: these “elites” will not do good for you. They would rather see you dead than see you uplifted. They are willing to kill you themselves to destroy your agenda.
https://www.dailycrusader.com/2019/0...ing-headshots/
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the rockefellers name was rogenfelder and they came from Germany the same as the rothschilds

When you type a name in a search engine, if it doesn’t find the exact match the thing sometimes ‘undoes’ what’s being done by cabalists to delete tracks and hide the true origins of someone/thing. It’s a letter shift game…


Rosenfeld[er] : rose field[owner], German er suffix implying ‘ownership’…

Roggenfeld[er] : rye field[owner]… Related search leads nowhere…

Rockenfellar… German Fell : fur or animal coat ; Rock : coat… German rocken bears the connotation of ‘turning’ as ‘making’… The ‘e’ is missing from Rockefeller’s name in many 19th century’s publications… You might thus have to look for a furrier as one of the remotest ancestors in Germany.

I found the latest name in ONE French magazine dedicated to hide and skin makers dating 1926. The concerned page #211 is well referenced in an index but guess what ? It’s somehow missing from the copy of the book that starts at page #532…


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Goddard Rockefeller
Born 1590 in Rockenfeld, Westerwald, Schaumburg, Niedersachsen, Germany
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown] [sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of UNKNOWN Magdalena — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants
Father of Christian Rockenfellar, Andreas Rockenfellar, Johann Wilhelm Rockenfellar, Johannes W Rockefeller, Andreas Rockenfellar and Elizabeth Rockenfellar
Died 2 Aug 1684 in Segendorf, Neuwied, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rockefeller-204

Some sources link the Rockefeller to a Roquefeuille French nobility, but how would London have hired the descendant of a count who fought the English navy ? Because it’s what you find by checking the French literature of the time…

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The most ambitious search for Rockefeller’s roots traced them back to ninth-century French family, the Roquefeuilles… The clan’s departure from France is much better documented than its origins. After Louis XIV revoked the Edict of Nantes in 1685, the Huguenot family fled from religious persecution and emigrated to Sagendorf, near the Rhenish town of Koblenz, and Germanized their surname to Rockefeller.’

‘Around 1723, Johann Peter Rockefeller, a miller, gathered up his wife and five children, set sail for Philadelphia, and settled on a farm in Somerville and then Amwell, New Jersey, where he evidently flourished and acquired large landholdings. More than a decade later, his cousin Diell Rockefeller left southwest Germany and moved to Germantown, New York. Diell’s granddaughter Christina married her distant relative William, one of Johann’s grandsons… The marriage of William and Christina produced a son named Godfrey Rockefeller, who was the grandfather of the oil titan and a most unlikely progenitor of the clan.’

https://thetruthsource.org/exposing-...rers-part-iii/

There is nothing German to ‘Rockefeller’ let alone in a time when family names would bear a clear meaning.

German Wiki page specifies the relation between Goddard and grandson Johann…

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Der älteste heute bekannte Vorfahr Rockefellers war Goddard (oder Gotthart) Rockenfeller, der 1590 in Fahr am Rhein (mittlerweile zu Neuwied gehörig) im heutigen Rheinland-Pfalz geboren wurde. Sein Enkel Johann Peter Rockenfeller wanderte 1723 von Deutschland nach Amerika aus. Er ließ sich gemeinsam mit Frau und Kindern in Germantown (Pennsylvania) nieder und nannte sich fortan Rockefeller. Das war der Ur-Urgroßvater von John D. Rockefeller Sr..

Der Nachname bezieht sich offenbar auf den Ort Rockenfeld im Landkreis Neuwied, der in den 1960er Jahren aufgegeben wurde. In der Region leben bis heute viele Menschen mit dem Namen Rockenfeller (oder Variationen davon).

https://www.beyond-history.de/blog/a...elen-facetten/

Now the American Dream wants that Rockefeller be born to an itinerant salesman and half vagrant stuffing in oil-made potion in a trailer as shown in pictures. What a hoax… The oil tycoon descended straight from the emigrated branch of a nobility that kept serving French kings until the Revolution and didn’t stop breeding with other migrated nobles in America…

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Johann Peter Rockefellers Urenkel Godfrey Lewis Rockefeller (1783/1784–1857) heiratete 1806 in Livingston, New York, Lucy Avery aus der 7. Generation des Groton-Avery-Clans in Connecticut. Lucy Averys Ururgroßmutter war Susannah Palmes, Ehefrau von Samuel Avery aus New London, Connecticut, von königlicher Abstammung. Sie war die Enkelin von John Humfrey, der in England Lady Susan heiratete, die Tochter des 3. Earl of Lincoln, eines Abkömmlings von Edmund II. „Ironside“, König von England, der wiederum von einigen Königen von Schottland, Frankreich und Spanien abstammte.

Der älteste Sohn von Godfrey Lewis Rockefeller und Lucy Avery, William Avery Rockefeller (1810–1906), heiratete Eliza Davison, und John Davison Rockefeller war ihr ältester Sohn

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Avery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Humfrey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Lincoln


So it appears that John D. Rockefeller wasn’t more a ‘self-made man’ than his ancestors were of Jewish origin, they only become ones through marriage and you can bet that nothing happened by chance.

What I think then is that a parvenu would have been happy enough to get chosen by the money kings to become the tycoon he was, but that the same candidate with a noble European and Protestant ancestry had had nothing more pressing than to turn against his benefactors and build what became his own empire at least for a while.

I guess the Russian ‘revolution’, Bolshevism and the birth of the Soviet Union also were stages of remotely run operation for the Rockefeller clan to get their hand on the Baku oil fields, because never had the Russian Empire surrendered them to even the Rothschild.
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So it appears that John D. Rockefeller wasn’t more a ‘self-made man’ than his ancestors were of Jewish origin, they only become ones through marriage and you can bet that nothing happened by chance.

What I think then is that a parvenu would have been happy enough to get chosen by the money kings to become the tycoon he was, but that the same candidate with a noble European and Protestant ancestry had had nothing more pressing than to turn against his benefactors and build what became his own empire at least for a while. .
well what is protestantism?

its a reformation of christendom. I suggest that behind it you will find the secret society network of rosicrucians and freemasons

i also suggest that they trace from the same network as the templars and that the network is of jewish qabalistic bloodlines

many of the early puritan settlers of america were rosicrucians ie rosy-cross

many major players down through europe have been marranos which is to say crypto-jews who pretend outwardly to be catholics but who behind closed doors carry on the rites of their ceremonial magic

Those people then cleaved christendom in half through reforming the church. Arguably they then cleaved it again with the 'humanism' movement that then came out of protestantism. This is why the anglican church is full of freemasons

They have since cleaved it again with the creation of the 'new age' movement
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i dont know if anyones said this here on the forums but i think the entire Yellow Jacket thing is orchestrated. if it was not, Zionist mainstream media would not give it any attention- maybe a brief mention.

in the past there have been huge protests in many cities of the world for various reasons/causes but bcos its genuine & the Zionist banking cartel does not like it nor do they want it to spread, they ignore it- total blackout by mainstream media.

this Yellow Jacket thing seems to me, to be something like all the Arab springs- protests that started off as being peaceful & genuine: they were initially started & led by disgruntled citizens but it was hijacked by agent provocateurs who were acting on behalf of Israel/US/UK/France.

These guys mixed in with the crowds and began shooting at police/soldiers and things escalated from there.

just like how there were ulterior motives in the case of the Arab springs, i think that something similar is happening here.
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Elected representatives have no more power and here is your future…

The market will extend its upper-hand and authority to anything it hasn’t been able to reach so far : health, education, justice, police, foreign affairs… Likewise and since they’re not officially regulated yet it will reach fields that as today are still regarded as illegal or criminal like prostitution, organ trade, gun trade, racket, etc, etc… and so we’ll see an increasingly prevailing market concentrating wealth, deepening inequality with an absolute short term priority allowed to the despotism of urgency and profit, even and including at the end of the road down to the marketing of the most crucial thing that human life is, the making of the human being into a marketable item.


https://youtu.be/k40RpYZlvkQ?t=148


One can guess already how deep some states may get involved into organ trafficking, now this man is quietly telling you that private companies will not only make it an open market but also create a new one for racket…

Attali once was Mitterrand’s imposed eminence grise, kind of French Henry Kissinger like perhaps you have one too where you live. He predicts Mrs Le Pen’s election as the next French president.

I got the privilege of meeting many of the world’s most important personalities, today I’ll meet Henry Kissinger and many other ones these days………………

https://youtu.be/PBwvAtL2PKU?t=623

Yes sure... go see Henry first...

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The Brussels Business - Who Runs the EU?

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so who ?

please make a short summary if you care, it's a too long online viewing for me...
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so who ?

please make a short summary if you care, it's a too long online viewing for me...
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lobbyists who work for big corporations ...which are almost all owned by the same Zionist banking cartel intermarried with European nobility.

...it doesn't say all that but thats the conclusion i reached.
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well it does match and French ARTE channel will tonight show a new Canadian documentary on the ‘coup by Trump and world businessmen’ in the USA… just picked this 'key words' vid from Ytube...

https://youtu.be/HLpWsBdzKOU?t=118


I think to know what’s going on in France… Macron hasn’t just worked at Bank Rothschild, he’s been ‘initiated’ into it by Rothschild’s closest co-worker at the time. Macron then abruptly entered politics not as a mere mayor or party leader but as president Hollande’s deputy secretary general straight upon the end of his on-the-job training period at Rothschild’s. So the youngest president France ever had is a pure Rothschild product.

And why he was elected president is because of this… note the here emphasized bias in the English Wiki page...

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By 1980, the Paris business employed about 2,000 people and had an annual turnover of 26 billion francs ($5 billion in the currency rates of 1980). But then the Paris business suffered a near death blow in 1981 when the Socialist government of François Mitterrand nationalized and renamed it Compagnie Européenne de Banque. In 1987 a successor company called Rothschild & Cie Banque was created by David René de Rothschild who was joined by his half-brother Edouard de Rothschild and cousin Eric de Rothschild.
I’ve known the 80’s and I can tell you that at the time it was expressly noticed or implicitly meant by the French population that there was money, all of sudden there's been money for everything and everyone.

Maybe was it why Mitterrand was jokingly nicknamed 'God' by the media people, because it must have been said at the time that only God would have dared or allowed Himself to do something like that...
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