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Old 18-04-2010, 01:48 PM   #21
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Let me give you a scenario. Russia like the US has developed HAARP like technology. They've scanned the US and determined the location of every nuke including every US HAARP array.

Push of a button they can create earthquakes at all those locations crippling the US nuclear deterrent. As for nuclear subs who's to say their version of HAARP can't penetrate the seas?

I've seen a video where someone states that Russia have their own version of HAARP.

We're not dealing with regular technology here. Both sides have technology and abilities many would never believe.
im pretty sure that if haarp exists(and works), russia has a better "haarpov"

prolly they can shut off usa hararp and make usa nuke itself to oblivion.
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Old 19-04-2010, 01:22 AM   #22
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There are 30 harp sites around the world who owns/financed/controls them is anyones guess. This weapon is quite common knowledge but because its not in msm no one believes me.
There is one in South Africa, Russia, Chile, China they are everywhere and it is obvious that a war of sometype has started and they are using them. Earthquakes are occuring everywhere but I've noticed that they are not in random places across the globe but in specific and densly populated areas, and strategic places as well - volcanoes for example. Volcanoes that they use as an excuse to close down airports and suck money out of airlines who inturn suck money out of insurance companies that are already on the verge of collapsing but people have confidence in because they are all backed by tax payers to not fail!!! .

There must be some power players intent on taking down the economies because that is what is happening. The curves are how they were perdicted in Oct 2008, the big crash, snailing up slowly over next couple of years to show (fake) recovery, another crash, snail recovery and the same pattern repeated over and over accept each recovery peaking at a lower and lower point each time.

The economies of the world are weaker.
There are earthquakes everywhere.
Volcanoes are erupting.
The geo-politcal situation of the planet is dominated by empires with the most money.
The fishing grounds are getting smaller.
Food is becoming more expensive.
People of the western world are apathetic and lazy and don't seem to give a shit about the violence on the planet.

And they still havn't found Osama Bin Laden!!!

What is coming?

MOre earthquakes and catastrophes causing billions of dollars worth of problems that the tax payer will be asked to solve/pay for; that the tax payer wont know he/she is paying for and will keep paying for till they die.

The gap between the haves and the have nots growing hugely.

A warrior class of society being bred to protect the haves.

Osama Bin Laden passing away peacefully beside some river or under an orange tree free and uncaught.
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Old 19-04-2010, 01:46 AM   #23
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There are 30 harp sites around the world who owns/financed/controls them is anyones guess. This weapon is quite common knowledge but because its not in msm no one believes me.
There is one in South Africa, Russia, Chile, China they are everywhere and it is obvious that a war of sometype has started and they are using them. Earthquakes are occuring everywhere but I've noticed that they are not in random places across the globe but in specific and densly populated areas, and strategic places as well - volcanoes for example. Volcanoes that they use as an excuse to close down airports and suck money out of airlines who inturn suck money out of insurance companies that are already on the verge of collapsing but people have confidence in because they are all backed by tax payers to not fail!!! .

There must be some power players intent on taking down the economies because that is what is happening. The curves are how they were perdicted in Oct 2008, the big crash, snailing up slowly over next couple of years to show (fake) recovery, another crash, snail recovery and the same pattern repeated over and over accept each recovery peaking at a lower and lower point each time.

The economies of the world are weaker.
There are earthquakes everywhere.
Volcanoes are erupting.
The geo-politcal situation of the planet is dominated by empires with the most money.
The fishing grounds are getting smaller.
Food is becoming more expensive.
People of the western world are apathetic and lazy and don't seem to give a shit about the violence on the planet.

And they still havn't found Osama Bin Laden!!!

What is coming?

MOre earthquakes and catastrophes causing billions of dollars worth of problems that the tax payer will be asked to solve/pay for; that the tax payer wont know he/she is paying for and will keep paying for till they die.

The gap between the haves and the have nots growing hugely.

A warrior class of society being bred to protect the haves.

Osama Bin Laden passing away peacefully beside some river or under an orange tree free and uncaught.
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Old 19-04-2010, 07:11 AM   #24
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There is information coming from Mexico that is not being released on other media. It is even secret in Mexico, but many know about it.

We know that after the 7.2 quake on the border of Mexico and California on Easter, sulphorous water emerged from the ground and sunk many homes. Baja separated from the mainland by 3 meters.

Now, we are getting info that underground military bases in California are being evacuated. Another major, catastrophic event is building fast.

We are also hearing that in May this year, an artificially generated tsunami will occur in the Western Pacific and possibly strike the west coasts of the US and Mexico. This is why there is so much preparation in San Diego and Oregon.

We now know that Russian military saboteurs are stationed throughout the US and a gas or dirty bomb event is possible. We don't know where yet, but most likely in the southern or southwestern US.

We also have discovered that Russian agents AND Israeli Mossad are in Northern Mexico and and facilitating the so-called drug wars and murders. None of this will ever be on the news.

The second half of 2010 and the first half of 2011will see major events that have never been seen on Earth before. The Icelandic ash and the grounding of planes is part of Kuiper Belt sabotage. They are planning their own event.

Fasten your seat belts and DO YOUR MENTAL WORK!!

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Where to start with this whole thread...?

Yes, the Earth is undergoing changes and this will continue as the physical world continues to reflect the consciousness of the planet. However, disinformation will be rife as many factions want to attach themselves to these changes to pump up their importance even though they are merely along for the ride. Any information "coming in" is total BS and cannot be trusted.

The US has already been taken down by saboteurs. They're called the New World Order. The Russian military can't take down the Ukraine at his point. However, NWO/US war machine can KILL EVERYONE about 10,000 time over. There is ZERO percent chance that the Russians will give the US an excuse to crush them militarily. Better to send out a steady stream of NWO Disclosure to keep the pressure on and cut off the US financially.

Yes, the fascists are the biggest drug dealers on the planet. Big Pharma + Big Narco = same fascists. Yes, they create violence and instability everywhere along the drug chain. Violence is through the roof right now because the fascists are broke and they are wringing every dollar they can out of the drug trade. Plus, they want to terrify as many North Americans as possible, so the population will buy into the North American Union. Bottom line: the Mounties, US Marshals, and Federales can kick the shit out of the "drug lords" -and will- once open season is declared on the bastards once and for all (starting in Langley, VA).

The bad guys are freaking out in all directions because the good guys are finally fighting back. Yes, bad stuff is still happening, but you know what else is happening?

Reversing NWO timelines, investigating central banks, ending fiat currency, ending fractional reserve banking, exposing corporate crime and corruption, exposing corrupt politicians, exposing secret societies, exposing degenerate "elites," exposing climate lies, exposing religious lies, exposing world health lies, ending the 9-11 truth embargo, ending the ET truth embargo, ending the free energy truth embargo...AND manifesting the on-going awakening of the beautiful and amazing people of planet Earth.

Don't buy into the negative hype. Believe in truth and bring goodness into being. We can do this together come what may.
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Where to start with this whole thread...?

Yes, the Earth is undergoing changes and this will continue as the physical world continues to reflect the consciousness of the planet. However, disinformation will be rife as many factions want to attach themselves to these changes to pump up their importance even though they are merely along for the ride. Any information "coming in" is total BS and cannot be trusted.

The US has already been taken down by saboteurs. They're called the New World Order. The Russian military can't take down the Ukraine at his point. However, NWO/US war machine can KILL EVERYONE about 10,000 time over. There is ZERO percent chance that the Russians will give the US an excuse to crush them militarily. Better to send out a steady stream of NWO Disclosure to keep the pressure on and cut off the US financially.

Yes, the fascists are the biggest drug dealers on the planet. Big Pharma + Big Narco = same fascists. Yes, they create violence and instability everywhere along the drug chain. Violence is through the roof right now because the fascists are broke and they are wringing every dollar they can out of the drug trade. Plus, they want to terrify as many North Americans as possible, so the population will buy into the North American Union. Bottom line: the Mounties, US Marshals, and Federales can kick the shit out of the "drug lords" -and will- once open season is declared on the bastards once and for all (starting in Langley, VA).

The bad guys are freaking out in all directions because the good guys are finally fighting back. Yes, bad stuff is still happening, but you know what else is happening?

Reversing NWO timelines, investigating central banks, ending fiat currency, ending fractional reserve banking, exposing corporate crime and corruption, exposing corrupt politicians, exposing secret societies, exposing degenerate "elites," exposing climate lies, exposing religious lies, exposing world health lies, ending the 9-11 truth embargo, ending the ET truth embargo, ending the free energy truth embargo...AND manifesting the on-going awakening of the beautiful and amazing people of planet Earth.

Don't buy into the negative hype. Believe in truth and bring goodness into being. We can do this together come what may.
Beautifully stated and inspiring! +1
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We know that after the 7.2 quake on the border of Mexico and California on Easter, sulphorous water emerged from the ground and sunk many homes. Baja separated from the mainland by 3 meters.


The second half of 2010 and the first half of 2011will see major events that have never been seen on Earth before. The Icelandic ash and the grounding of planes is part of Kuiper Belt sabotage. They are planning their own event.
When that Earth quake hit , it was not a secret that the continant moved by 3 meters .
I was the 1st person to mention that here on D Ickes forum , because it was on the news .

I was quite surprised to read that under ground bases were being evacuated , thats new , and good too because they need to learn that they too are vunerable and no better than the rest of us as far as nature is conserned .

The Kuiper belt , ( So I thought ) was the belt of small astaroids around Uranus , the planet .

unless that is just a code name .

but the Kuiper belt refures to objects in and around and further out than Uranus , the planet .



The earth is also going through natural changes that WILL INCREASE NOW .

stories like this can be used to justify civil unrest etc etc .

we should learn to understand that it isnt all HAARP , NWO , THE MOON , ARITFICIAL TSUNAMIS , MAN MADE EARTH QUAKES ETC ETC ETC .

its about time people faced reality here , nature is telling us , times are changing .

most of these are indeed natural events that some do not wish to face as fact , mainly because the idea that earth might be going through its famouse cycle of 2012 scenarios frightens them too much , so they invent ideas that it is all man made .

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When that Earth quake hit , it was not a secret that the continant moved by 3 meters .
I was the 1st person to mention that here on D Ickes forum , because it was on the news .

I was quite surprised to read that under ground bases were being evacuated , thats new , and good too because they need to learn that they too are vunerable and no better than the rest of us as far as nature is conserned .

The Kuiper belt , ( So I thought ) was the belt of small astaroids around Uranus , the planet .

unless that is just a code name .

but the Kuiper belt refures to objects in and around and further out than Uranus , the planet .



The earth is also going through natural changes that WILL INCREASE NOW .

stories like this can be used to justify civil unrest etc etc .

we should learn to understand that it isnt all HAARP , NWO , THE MOON , ARITFICIAL TSUNAMIS , MAN MADE EARTH QUAKES ETC ETC ETC .

its about time people faced reality here , nature is telling us , times are changing .

most of these are indeed natural events that some do not wish to face as fact , mainly because the idea that earth might be going through its famouse cycle of 2012 scenarios frightens them too much , so they invent ideas that it is all man made .
True there was a time when I would have beloved that the tsunamis and earthquakes etc were all natural but not now, not with all the tech they have.
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there is definately more to the icelandic eruption than we are seeing, and i think it literally is a smoke screen to further events, burying other news on the one hand, diverting attention from other thingys afoot, and maybe even it nis a design to keep us from seeing something very real in the skies as well as on the ground.
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there is definately more to the icelandic eruption than we are seeing, and i think it literally is a smoke screen to further events, burying other news on the one hand, diverting attention from other thingys afoot, and maybe even it nis a design to keep us from seeing something very real in the skies as well as on the ground.
Yep - what I've learnt since being on this forum is when I see an event like this on the msm I analyse it from two perspectives.
1. Who gains from it.
2. Is there any symbolism involved.
3. Where does the money trail go.
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conspiracies, conspiracies , conspiracies
I say bull
what we face is nature
there are too many of us and we are destoying the planet
nature always takes care of herself and destroys anything thta gets out of balance
we are the bacteria on earths skin
now she fights back
you can belive what you wnat that life could be beatiful if we beet the NWO
I say again bull
Can 6 billion people really all live like Kings on finite planet?
again I say bull
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Well NASA have cut the feed from Lasco2 and Lasco3,
which means that we can't see what the sun is doing.
Both (public) feeds stop at about 4:30pm on the 17th.
Yet the MDI feeds show time stamps late into 18th April,
so they can't use the 'lost contact' excuse.

Also, the USGS are not showing earthquake readings from Iceland.
There have been several over the 2.5 magnitude cut-off
that have just been ignored by the USGS, and they are also not
keeping the totals current with their own reports
i.e. not adding earthquakes that they should to the total activity.

On top of the above, Katla, the big volcano next to the current eruption,
has shown - according to the Icelandic geologists - a 200% increase
in activity.

http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences...in-seven-days/

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/Myrdalsjokull.jpg

You can see where the monitors are situated,
and relate to http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html


Time to get some popcorn/munchies for the show methinks.
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conspiracies, conspiracies , conspiracies
I say bull
what we face is nature
there are too many of us and we are destoying the planet
nature always takes care of herself and destroys anything thta gets out of balance
we are the bacteria on earths skin
now she fights back
you can belive what you wnat that life could be beatiful if we beet the NWO
I say again bull
Can 6 billion people really all live like Kings on finite planet?
again I say bull
The population of this planet could fit into the state of Texas and live comfterbly. I can't provide 'proof' for this but you can look to Jim Marrs for stuff about that.

If everyone knew the true nature of who they really are, then yes, we could all live peacefully (without Wars and endless suffering at least) We aren't bacteria on the planets skin and we're too insignificantly small to destroy this planet. If she wanted to, she could destroy us all in an instant, it's very arrogant to think we can destroy something that could eat us whole at any time.

There's more to it all than people think. I was in the line of thinking this was an act of Nature, but now I'm starting to wonder. The economy is going to take a huge blast for this (perfect for the UK) and then the Conservatives will be like ''We'll save the economy, we're all about change'' then it sets that up for them to come in next.

There will probably be less flights leaving airports as people will notice how nice it is without planes and they'll use it as an excuse to cut down on Co2 emissions (another 1+ for TPTB, less people leaving their 'zones' often... sorry, countries)

The Polish Presidents death has been pretty much forgotten about already. If TPTB can create Earthquakes and manipulate the weather (Hurricane Katrina) then surely they can erupt a Volcano, with the very same methods. We're forgetting that we're being manipulated and controlled by people who are trying to play God with this planet.

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Well NASA have cut the feed from Lasco2 and Lasco3,
which means that we can't see what the sun is doing.
Both (public) feeds stop at about 4:30pm on the 17th.
Yet the MDI feeds show time stamps late into 18th April,
so they can't use the 'lost contact' excuse.

Also, the USGS are not showing earthquake readings from Iceland.
There have been several over the 2.5 magnitude cut-off
that have just been ignored by the USGS, and they are also not
keeping the totals current with their own reports
i.e. not adding earthquakes that they should to the total activity.

On top of the above, Katla, the big volcano next to the current eruption,
has shown - according to the Icelandic geologists - a 200% increase
in activity.

http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences...in-seven-days/

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/Myrdalsjokull.jpg

You can see where the monitors are situated,
and relate to http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html


Time to get some popcorn/munchies for the show methinks.
Oh bloody hell, talk about suspect! lol

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there is definately more to the icelandic eruption than we are seeing, and i think it literally is a smoke screen to further events, burying other news on the one hand, diverting attention from other thingys afoot, and maybe even it nis a design to keep us from seeing something very real in the skies as well as on the ground.

yes well it is a bit strange that a complete blanket rule of "NO FLYING" has been implicated all over Europe .

Well at least no chemitrails for now ah .


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True there was a time when I would have beloved that the tsunamis and earthquakes etc were all natural but not now, not with all the tech they have.
That was not what I was saying .
I was saying that they are natural events building up to the BIG ONE soon to come .
I think that most of these cospiracy theories about man made catastrophes are put there to take our focus away from these events that keep getting more frequent .

there is a reason why these events are getting more frequent , and THEY do not want us to focus on that reason .

but That does not mean that MY belief is rock solid and unmovable .

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conspiracies, conspiracies , conspiracies
I say bull
what we face is nature
there are too many of us and we are destoying the planet
nature always takes care of herself and destroys anything thta gets out of balance
we are the bacteria on earths skin
now she fights back
you can belive what you wnat that life could be beatiful if we beet the NWO
I say again bull
Can 6 billion people really all live like Kings on finite planet?
again I say bull
Yes, bull springs to mind when I read your posts.
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That was not what I was saying .
I was saying that they are natural events building up to the BIG ONE soon to come .
I think that most of these cospiracy theories about man made catastrophes are put there to take our focus away from these events that keep getting more frequent .

there is a reason why these events are getting more frequent , and THEY do not want us to focus on that reason .

but That does not mean that MY belief is rock solid and unmovable .

And what's the big one?
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yes well it is a bit strange that a complete blanket rule of "NO FLYING" has been implicated all over Europe .

Well at least no chemitrails for now ah .
Possibly another nail in the coffin for the last vesibules of big business, try to keep the planes out of the skies on purpous to futher the British plight towards a triple T society of bankruptcies, man taking advantage of mother natures ways once again.
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Yep - what I've learnt since being on this forum is when I see an event like this on the msm I analyse it from two perspectives.
1. Who gains from it.
2. Is there any symbolism involved.
3. Where does the money trail go.
Simple formula but very good!

4. Has it been predicted?
5. Who suffers from it?

The technology exists to give mother nature a tweak to trigger off "natural" disasters. Anyone who doubts this please speak up and we can go through the evidence again.

Given that at least some prophecies are bad guy blueprints. There was an Edgar Cayce thread recently which showed that he made specific reference to Iceland, to be followed by more "natural" devastation, especially on the west coast of the USA. Cayce was a freemason and advisor to presidents and Rockefellers. The kind of disasters that are seen by New Agers as Gaia's revenge and many religionists as "signs" of the End.

** It could be of course that some prophecies were right on the money and were simply foretelling what was to come from a neutral perspective, but maybe we can focus on more positive outcomes and avoid the worst. I still believe that this is possible. Override the bad guys plans.

The orgonite gifters are just one small group who have made a very positive contribution in recent years. There are other groups working in many different areas to make the world a better place. Every positive contribution helps. Perhaps more than many suspect.
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The population of this planet could fit into the state of Texas and live comfterbly. I can't provide 'proof' for this but you can look to Jim Marrs for stuff about that.
Yes there are enough resources to feed, clothe and house every person on the planet. But living standards would not be what we've grown accustiomed to in the west and what people in the developing world aspire to.

There'd be no multiple TVs, Mobile Phones, PCs and cars per household. The worlds population would have to become vegetarian or cut meat consumption down by 90-95%. And every family would have to limit themselves to one child.

Pretty much anything that consumes energy and resources but isn't essential for day to day existance would have to be done away with. Don't get me wrong, by doing this everyone would have a house that's comfortable to live in but humanity would have to give up many of it's luxuries and egoistic pursuits. And sadly i'm not sure that when push comes to shove people in the west would sacrifice all this for a more mundane existance over what we have now, nor would people in the 3rd stop having so many children.

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Speculative, nature is hard to predict isn't she.
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