The Two Moons of Mars

[boots]

Originally Posted by rodin

You believe this shit?

it figures

where did the photos come from? Hoaxes R Us

Who pays Hoagland's rent?

Hoaxes R Us

Who is cooking up the alien agenda hoax?

I'll give you a clue

Its not the Muslims

Hogland hey?

Did you actually read the fucking thing or did you come at it from your typical programmed response mechanism.

Whats MSSS stand for? What do they do?

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[truegroup]

Originally Posted by boots

Er...No

Not everything is a conspiracy.

They went to mars.

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Mars used to have much more of an atmosphere, probably stripped away with the solar wind, after the core cooled down.

If you haven't watched this series, I highly recommend it. Very enjoyable:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHWsJgarMtA

[elysiansix]

Why the interest in Mars in outer space, when there's so much evidence of Mars having landed on earth?

Mars used to be the planet/god that ruled Fertility - now it's the planet of war. Oh hang on - war IS fertile.........for those that create and sell the properties/state of war.

Mars is all over the show here on earth: you only have to open the door to the Health (i.e. sickness) and scientific sectors and see Mars Charts, M.R.S.A. and various other Mars tendencies outlining new illnesses and conditions.

Subliminal-speak = wormhole to the alternative reality that marks out the future.

And if I'm not mistakend the name 'Mark' derives from 'Mars' .

[fennellal]

As a Human Race we have not even looked under our very own Oceans for Ancient Civilization which must surly exist , never Mind Leave the Planet nor have we or are we currently exploying or inner Solar system.

Every thing since the Space race has been a Hoax, the Pictures we have got are a Complex series of Computer Mapping man made by JPL to give the Illusion that Goverment money is been spent for the last 30-40 years on Space Research.

The Money has not been spent on Space reconnaissance with Satellite or has there ever been used to send Robots to the surface of Mars, It been spent on War here on Earth for the Past 50 years all cloaked under one name NASA .

If the True extent for the cost of America going to War ever few years was shown to the population of Americian Tax payers, there would be uproar and Civil unrest.

The Americian Goverment hide the cost of War by Making up all of these Space reconnaissance missions in the name of NASA, None of the Pictures are real its all a Hoax, the biggest hoax on Humanity.

About all we have done in Space is Built the International Space Station and the Hubble Space Telescope

When we have not even touched our own Planet for Ancient Civilization and have not even exployered under our very own Oceans and Seas its hard to Believe that whe can exployer Space never mind other Planets.......

[4wheelin_fool]

Well, you guys seem to be very close to figuring it out..



Yes, the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter was a planet at one time. It held human life on it. Because it was further away, the atmosphere was thicker, so that by using the greenhouse effect it could maintain a comfortable temperature. We dont really get "sunburn" here on earth, its really a mild radiation burn. It may seem odd, but black people get painful sunburn also. Its really because "we" (all races) are much better suited for a thicker atmosphere on a planet much further away, but of a similar temperature.

Just before the humans destroyed the planet, they sent one last ship here with Noah to maintain life, and to keep the races alive. The problem is that there were already a bunch of people here, who were part of a series of early experiments to see if this planet could sustain alien human life. Many were prisoners, who chose to live in the "Hades" experiment, rather than to die. There was a little bit of interbreeding between the native Neanderthals, and the human aliens, so that they could produce human aliens that could be more intelligent, and biologically better suited for the planet. We did not "evolve" into this atmosphere, we are merely adjusting to it.

The plan was to start over completely. It was better to forget about what occurred on planet #5, as to not to curse life again. Would we end up destroying a second planet? Well, you know what they say, that once you forget history, you are condemmed to repeat it...

Psychologically the collective unconscious believes that we have another place to go again, so we destroy the planet without a care. The only reason that be believe we are an "independent" form of life, is because we have previously established independence by arriving here. We are no longer independent life forms, and each country is not even independent of each other. Humans are much like the brain cells of a single entity, and one that has schizophrenia.

There was clues left to our alien existence in a massive pile of rocks in the center of the planet on the surface. Its rather amazing how they could hide such a massive ship for such a long time. They could not bury it, as it would rust away. So they built another pile of rocks much larger, sitting right next to it as a decoy, and said it was "Great". It had 3 floors and one window in the side, like Noah's ark, but it was left completely empty! It took centuries for someone to figure out how to tunnel to the center. After they found that the "Great" mastaba was empty, they gave up! Fools.


In the late 1300s the Ark of the covenant was discovered underneath of the real pile of rocks, and was whisked away to be used in early Roscrucian ceremonies. Around the same time was when Khafre's nose was vandalized from the sphinx, not from Napolean. The Egyptian historian al-Maqrizi, writing in the fifteenth century, attributes the vandalism to Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr, a Sufi fanatic.
It's not the nose of Khafre on the sphinx that has any importance. Its the nose of the pointed building behind it, attributed to Khafre which has much more to hide... In 1967 a group of 12 scientists used a Muon generator to discover a MASSIVE ROUND OBJECT inside of the nose. However, Israel's 7-day war immediately broke out, so they had to leave as the region was unstable. They sent one guy back in to resume tests, and he said there was nothing there, it was all a big mistake. Next, everyone resumed their obsession with the "Great" empty object next to it.......

[realview]

I have it on good authority that the Martians are pretty darn embarrassed at the lack of symmetry of their moons. They are very jealous of our moon and this is the reason for occasional Mars/Earth hostility.

[iceblue]

And what about the monolith? Any news on that?

"Buzz Aldrin's recent statement either slipped out or was intentionally inserted into a C-SPAN call-in program commemorating the 40th anniversary of man reaching the moon. In the interview, he states:

We should go boldly where man has not gone before – fly by the comets, visit asteroids, visit the moon of Mars. There’s a monolith there. A very unusual structure on this little potato shaped object that goes around Mars once in seven hours. When people find out about that, they’re going to say "Who put that there?" Well, the universe put it there. If you choose, God put it there.

He mentions it at 0:35


He is referring to Phobos - whose orbit around Mars lasts approximately 7 hours.

[moving finger]

Originally Posted by iceblue

And what about the monolith? Any news on that?

"Buzz Aldrin's recent statement either slipped out or was intentionally inserted into a C-SPAN call-in program commemorating the 40th anniversary of man reaching the moon. In the interview, he states:



He mentions it at 0:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIXvpjnRws

He is referring to Phobos - whose orbit around Mars lasts approximately 7 hours.

He doesn't reveal its existence, he mentions something that was already well known. He's saying we should go there to see what it is, he's not saying what it is, other than a natural phenomenon.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by 4wheelin_fool

Well, you guys seem to be very close to figuring it out..


Yes, the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter was a planet at one time. It held human life on it. Because it was further away, the atmosphere was thicker, so that by using the greenhouse effect it could maintain a comfortable temperature. We dont really get "sunburn" here on earth, its really a mild radiation burn. It may seem odd, but black people get painful sunburn also. Its really because "we" (all races) are much better suited for a thicker atmosphere on a planet much further away, but of a similar temperature. .......

Are Whites Originally from Mars??

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9550

The outer planets were thrown into disarray and Jupiter eventually crashed into a planet which orbited between the present Jupiter and Mars. The physicists said the remains of this planet became the asteroid belt and that part of Jupiter broke away to become what we now call Venus. As Venus, then a vast chunk of matter, was projected into space, it destroyed the atmosphere and life of Mars before it was caught by the Earth’s gravitational field, the study claimed. Venus made several orbits of the Earth before its momentum hurled it into its current position in the solar system. It was those orbits, the physicists said, that brought devastation and a tidal wave about 4,800 BC.



The Land of the Gods in the ancient world from where the Aryan and reptile-Aryan bloodstreams emerged in the Caucasus Mountains, Sumer; Babylon, and Egypt.

There were other advanced peoples in other parts of the world, however, not only here.



The solar system showing the location of the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter which, though the details vary, many ancient and modern accounts suggest is the remains of a planet or part of a planet.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...cretbook09.jpg

The Phoenician Origin of the Britons
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/bookpics/item40c.jpg

[iceblue]

Originally Posted by moving finger

He doesn't reveal its existence, he mentions something that was already well known. He's saying we should go there to see what it is, he's not saying what it is, other than a natural phenomenon.

It seems to me as if he wanted to indicate something, he said it in a way to stir our curiosity... Looks to me as if he knows more than he's saying.

[boots]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

Are Whites Originally from Mars??

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9550

The outer planets were thrown into disarray and Jupiter eventually crashed into a planet which orbited between the present Jupiter and Mars. The physicists said the remains of this planet became the asteroid belt and that part of Jupiter broke away to become what we now call Venus. As Venus, then a vast chunk of matter, was projected into space, it destroyed the atmosphere and life of Mars before it was caught by the Earth’s gravitational field, the study claimed. Venus made several orbits of the Earth before its momentum hurled it into its current position in the solar system. It was those orbits, the physicists said, that brought devastation and a tidal wave about 4,800 BC.



The Land of the Gods in the ancient world from where the Aryan and reptile-Aryan bloodstreams emerged in the Caucasus Mountains, Sumer; Babylon, and Egypt.

There were other advanced peoples in other parts of the world, however, not only here.



The solar system showing the location of the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter which, though the details vary, many ancient and modern accounts suggest is the remains of a planet or part of a planet.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...cretbook09.jpg
The Phoenician Origin of the Britons
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/bookpics/item40c.jpg

Good info LG.

Mars and Earth certainly have a connection.

Many things that are found on Mars can be found on Earth.

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[piskavac]

Originally Posted by realview

I have it on good authority that the Martians are pretty darn embarrassed at the lack of symmetry of their moons. They are very jealous of our moon and this is the reason for occasional Mars/Earth hostility.

You are playful.

[lightgiver]

A consequence of the strict grid plan of most of Manhattan, and the grid's skew of approximately 28.9 degrees, is a phenomenon sometimes referred to as Manhattanhenge (by analogy with Stonehenge). On separate occasions in late May and early July, the sunset is aligned with the street grid lines, with the result that the sun is visible at or near the western horizon from street level. A similar phenomenon occurs with the sunrise in January and December.



Manhattanhenge (sometimes referred to as the Manhattan Solstice) is a semiannual occurrence in which the setting sun aligns with the east–west streets of the main street grid in the borough of Manhattan in New York City. The term is derived from Stonehenge, at which the sun aligns with the stones on the solstices. It was coined in 2002 by Neil deGrasse Tyson, an astrophysicist at the American Museum of Natural History. It applies to those streets that follow the Commissioners' Plan of 1811, which laid out a grid offset 29.0 degrees from true east–west. (The 29.0 degrees should be added to true east and west, making the western bearing approximately 299.0 degrees.)



Do you believe in magick Part 5

[picha]

Originally Posted by motokeiru

Great read.

Are you a shenmue fan since you have it as your avatar? I am too - it's the greatest video game of all time IMO.

[lightgiver]

Fortuna Glacier is a tidewater glacier at the mouth of Cumberland Bay on the island of South Georgia.

http://p.webshots.com/ProThumbs/31/6...llpaper400.jpg

using 3 Wessex helicopters radioed at 11:00 on 22 April.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150160

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

One day, when you're ready
One day, when you're up to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-nDLfFmEq8

The atmosphere
Will get lighter
And two suns ready
To shine just for you
I can feel it, I can feel it.

Stonehenge is a prehistoric monument located in the English county of Wiltshire, about 3.2 kilometres (2.0 mi) west of Amesbury and 13 kilometres (8.1 mi) north of Salisbury. One of the most famous sites in the world, Stonehenge is composed of earthworks surrounding a circular setting of large standing stones. It is at the centre of the most dense complex of Neolithic and Bronze Age monuments in England, including several hundred burial mounds.



Secrets of Stonehenge


Archaeological evidence found by the Stonehenge Riverside Project in 2008 indicates that Stonehenge served as a burial ground from its earliest beginnings. The dating of cremated remains found on the site indicate burials from as early as 3000 BC, when the initial ditch and bank were first dug. Burials continued at Stonehenge for at least another 500 years.

In the 12th century, Geoffrey of Monmouth included a fanciful story in his work Historia Regum Britanniae that attributed the monument's construction to Merlin,

Merlin reads his prophecies to Vortigern, from British Library MS Cotton Claudius B VII of Geoffrey of Monmouth's Prophetiae Merlini, c.1250-70
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The Historia Regum Britanniae (English: The History of the Kings of Britain) is a pseudohistorical account of British history, written c. 1136 by Geoffrey of Monmouth. It chronicles the lives of the kings of the Britons in a chronological narrative spanning a time of two thousand years, beginning with the Trojans founding the British nation and continuing until the Anglo-Saxons assumed control of much of Britain around the 7th century. It is one of the central pieces of the Matter of Britain.

Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
Iron Maiden


See a recreation of how Stonehenge may have been raised 4500 years ago,or even longer ?

[lightgiver]

Area 51

Originally Posted by lightgiver

Area 51

Area 51 is a military base, and a remote detachment of Edwards Air Force Base. It is located in the southern portion of Nevada in the western United States, 83 miles (133 km) north-northwest of downtown Las Vegas. Situated at its center, on the southern shore of Groom Lake, is a large secretive military airfield. The base's primary purpose is to support development and testing of experimental aircraft and weapons systems

This satellite image of Area 51 shows dry Groom Lake just northeast of the site.
IATA: none – ICAO: KXTA
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The intense secrecy surrounding the base, the very existence of which the U.S. government barely acknowledges, has made it the frequent subject of conspiracy theories and a central component to unidentified flying object (UFO) folklore

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...990belgium.jpg

A photographic image associated with three unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) reported over Belgium in the 1990's. This image could be a hoax, though the UAP case is documented.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...oo_Fighter.png

Area 51 28 August 1968
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ust_1968_6.jpg

A closed-circuit TV camera watches over the perimeter of Area 51
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Unofficial Groom Lake logo found on helmets and aircraft such as the F-117 Nighthawk during the 1990s
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Its secretive nature and undoubted connection to classified aircraft research, together with reports of unusual phenomena, have led Area 51 to become a focus of modern UFO and conspiracy theories. Some of the activities mentioned in such theories at Area 51 include:

* The storage, examination, and reverse engineering of crashed alien spacecraft (including material supposedly recovered at Roswell), the study of their occupants (living and dead), and the manufacture of aircraft based on alien technology.
* Meetings or joint undertakings with extraterrestrials.
* The development of exotic energy weapons for the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) or other weapons programs.
* The development of means of weather control.
* The development of time travel and teleportation technology.
* The development of unusual and exotic propulsion systems related to the Aurora Program.
* Activities related to a supposed shadowy one world government or the Majestic 12 organization


Fetes and Trips

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7720977082526#

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51

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How stuff

Originally Posted by lightgiver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5_0iZQ-TuA

(live at Pompeii)

Works

Originally Posted by lightgiver

How Area 51 Works

A satellite view of Area 51
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/area-51-2.jpg

Breaching Area 51

AREA 51 SECRET FOOTAGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUtJVFii3A

this is very informative

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXIWKQOu-k8

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering

Close Encounters of the Third Kind Music.

[lightgiver]

This review is from: Human Race Get Off Your Knees: The Lion Sleeps No More

Icke is one of the very few conspiracy whistleblowers who has developed a relatively advanced spiritual awareness from which he can provide a useful context and understanding of the material he has uncovered. He always puts forward an intriguingly different way to view the world, far from what is taught in schools and "higher" education (much of which is so boring because it is just not true).

Great Read btw

David Icke Moon Matrix Intel Hub Radio 1 of 6




Synopsis

The Moon has confounded scientists for many years. It does not obey the known rules of astrophysics and there is no coherent theory of its origin - in fact, it should not really be there. When researching the ancient Stone Age system of geometry and measurement, which they revealed in their previous book, Civilization One, the authors were surprised to discover that the system also works perfectly on the Moon. On further investigation, they found a consistent sequence of beautiful integer numbers when looking at every major aspect of the Moon, while no pattern emerges for any other planet or moon in our solar system. For example, the Moon revolves at exactly one hundredth of the speed that the Earth turns on its axis; moreover, the Moon is exactly 400 times smaller than the Sun and 400 times closer to the Earth. They also discovered that the Moon possess little or no heavy metals and has no core. In fact, many specialist suspect that the Moon is hollow, which should not be possible. If our Moon did not exist...nor would we. Higher life only developed on Earth because the Moon is exactly what it is and where it is. Whern all of the facts are dispassionately reviewed, it becomes unreasonable to cling to the idea that the Moon is a natural object. The only question that remains is, "Who built it"?


David Icke- Who Built the Moon..interesting interview pt.1

[lightgiver]

History Channel (The Universe series)


This segment explains the condition on earth and life on it if the moon was never created.

In historical times, the Earth was Moonless. What? Is nothing sacred? You’re telling us that the Moon -- that really big, bright orb periodically up in the sky -- is a newcomer to the environs of Earth? Surely, you jest.

Originally Posted by ;1060030605

Thou! When thy word is pronounced on earth the Anunnaki kiss the ground.

Is our Moon a ship that brought the Annunaki ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNXA...yer_detailpage

Given the distinct possibility of the Moon being a relative newcomer to its orbit around the Earth, an arrival apparently prior to the Anunnaki of Sumerian history, one might even consider seriously the even more radical suggestion of the Moon being artificial.Is it a possibility the Moon being the ideal space ship, wherein one has all the comforts of home and can enjoy an observational status wherein no one else (in particular, arrogant humans) even suspects the existence of a nearby extraterrestrial intelligence.

Is it possible that the Moon arrived with the Anunnaki -- either initially, or later when it was apparent that an off-planet base was essential? Is this their “home away from home”, from which they could observe the going ons down below, while still enjoying a privacy from prying human eyes? Zecharia Sitchin and others have noted that there were Anunnaki “watchers” in the space surrounding the Earth -- and while it might be assumed they were in artificial satellites in near-Earth orbit, no one appears [until the writing of this essay] to have considered that the artificial satellite upon which the Anunnaki were doing their watching (and administering the trans-shipments of Gold back to Nibiru) was in fact the Moon! And yet it makes total sense.

The term "Watchers," is common in the Book of Enoch found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Book of the Watchers is the name for one section of the book (1 Enoch 6-36). It occurs in the phrase 'irin we-qadishin, "Watchers and Holy Ones". The dating of this section of 1 Enoch is around 2nd-1st Century BCE. This book is based on one interpretation of the Sons of God passage in Genesis 6, according to which angels married with human females, giving rise to a race of hybrids known as the Nephilim.

Giordano Bruno (a 16th century Italian philosopher) is reputed to have written in De Immenso: (Bk IV, x, pp. 56-57): “There are those who have believed that there was a certain time (as our Mythologian says) when the moon, which was believed to be younger than the sun, was not yet created. The Arcadians, who dwelt not far from the Po, are believed to have been in existence before it (the moon).” “Theodorus writes in his first book that the moon had appeared a little while before the war which was fought by Hercules against the giants. Aristochius and Dionysius Chalcidensis, in the first of their works, confirm the same.” “Mnaseas said that the Arcadians were born before the moon, and so they were called ‘proselenian’; meaning, ‘before the moon’.”



Giordano Bruno (1548 – February 17, 1600), born Filippo Bruno, was an Italian Dominican friar, philosopher, mathematician and astronomer. His cosmological theories went beyond the Copernican model in proposing that the Sun was essentially a star, and moreover, that the universe contained an infinite number of inhabited worlds populated by other intelligent beings.

I can imagine an infinite number of worlds like the Earth, with a Garden of Eden on each one. In all these Gardens of Eden, half the Adams and Eves will not eat the fruit of knowledge, and half will. But half of infinity is infinity, so an infinite number of worlds will fall from grace and there will be an infinite number of crucifixions.

— Giordano Bruno, 'On the Cause, Principle, and Unity', 5th dialogue


Bruno’s adventures in free thought ended when the Roman Inquisition declared him “an impenitent, pertinacious, and obstinate heretic,” to which he characteristically replied, “You may be more afraid to bring that sentence against me than I am to accept it.” In 1600 the inquisitors stripped Bruno naked, bound his tongue, and burned him alive. At least his universe survived.


Over the mountain watching the watcher.
Breaking the darkness, waking the grapevine.
One inch of love is one inch of shadow
Love is the shadow that ripens the wine.


While Genesis says that the Nephilim remained "on the earth" even after the Great Flood, Jude says that the Watchers themselves are bound "in the valleys of the Earth" until Judgment Day. (See Genesis 6:4 and Jude 1:6,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...imation_03.gif

The ocean surface has highs and lows, similar to the hills and valleys of Earth's land surface depicted on a topographic map.

http://www.halexandria.org/dward200.htm

[snakesnladders]

Originally Posted by boots

Another face on Mars.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancie...mages_05a.html

Mars Global Surveyor
The Second "Face" on Mars
Winding Valley in Libya Montes
MOC Image M02-03051
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It took a while for us to find this second famous face that has been floating around the internet for some time as no site save one that we found lists the source image. With thousands to go through without the number its like a needle in a haystack. Pegasus will always provide source of the original whenever its available. Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) MOC narrow-angle image M02-03051 of unusual face-like surface feature in valley of Libya Montes near equator on Mars, approximately 275 degrees West and 2.66 degrees North. Image released by MSSS on May 22, 2000. To find this feature, it is approximately 3/4 of the way down the unmapped lossless gif just below the sharp pyramid like lines... The image above is taken directly from the raw data Contrast and gamma adjusted... Zoomed in... This face is a much better argument for inteligent design than the other face on Mars. Though pitted by a few craters this one shows remarkably fine detail and symetry, WITHOUT adjusting or adding to the image as is done on the other face. Colorized... This image stands alone and is clear enough that if it was indeed modeled after a living entity, one would be able to recognize this individual...

i love this face - i really don't think it can be anything other than artificially constructed.... by aliens....