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Old 23-11-2013, 03:45 PM   #361
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If the Egyptian populace celebrating the Festival of Osiris got drunk and had sex that doesn’t mean the sex was an accepted part of the ritual; it was merely a by product and therefore does not qualify as ‘Egyptian sex rites’
Untrustwothy. Anyone supporting freemasons, is untrustworthy.

1) rapunzel( the misinformer) in the first place, why is royalty
encouraging drugs, such as alcohol? It is a well know fact, during
the Egytian empire, drunken celebration was very common.

2) Why did royalty encourage this festival...

The sixth of the month was a moon-day, on the night of
which the love-feast or agape...

'...promiscuous sexual intercourse was an act
which came to be called religious. The agape
did not originate with what is termed Christianity,
but was one of the most primitive institutions
of the human race, which began, as the festival
of fertility when the invocation of the superhuman
power was for food and sustenance addressed
to the Great Mother.''

If it became intergrated into religion, then it is clear
how this came about - only royalry propogates religion
and encourages aspects(child sacrifice) of it.


Let me tell the truth to people......

The pharaohs had thousands of sex slave, both children
and adults of both sexes. Homosexuality in the royal house,
is known to us. And it seems many pharaohs were gay.

Let us remember then, the gay pharaoh had child sex slaves
so he was without doubt what we would term today a peadophile.

As my research has concluded all along, on this forum, this
explains the perverted genes of the Roman Emperors - family.

This explains the peadophile trait today, in the royal family -
Jimmy savile was 'small talk' compated to his master peadophiles.

The royals today must do it all under cover. They know we would
go mad, if we found out that the roylals are doing just as their
forefathers did.
Sorry people, but epigenetics makes them worse, not better.
So the genepool over these last two thousands years, has been
festering in peadophilia - they are renetically bound to have these
perverted thoughts. They use freemasonry(savile) as the mechanism to
abuse and corrupt children, adults.

When wlll people listen to me, for the sake of
our future generations?


In pharaohs day ( and all early royal branches ), they were open about
their peadophilia - anyone protesting would have the neck chopped.

The longer the royals rule, the more we will see laws perverting
society, just as happened in Rome.

Christianity was under pressure to put in place child protection laws,
over the centuries. So they royals found it difficult to corrupt us,
as they used to.

But notice today, the laws of Rome and Pharaoh, are coming back
and christianity is taking a back seat ( not protestiing about gay rights
as they did 100years ago)
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Old 23-11-2013, 04:16 PM   #362
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How many times do you need to be told

SAVILLE WAS NOT A FREEMASON.


Yes, I was shouting so that the stupid and hard of understanding might, this time, get it.

Unless you are not interested in the truth of course.
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Old 23-11-2013, 04:22 PM   #363
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You have not supplied one primary source in support of your agenda. As for the Chinese and football, I wonder why you harp on this and not on all the rest of your ‘facts’ which I have successfully disputed.?

http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/Socc...ted-Soccer.htm

“Cuju is an ancient Chinese ball game. It is a competitive game that involves kicking a ball through an opening into a net.[1] The use of hands is not allowed.[1] It is seen by FIFA as the earliest form of football for which there is evidence, being first mentioned as an exercise in a military work from 3rd-2nd century BC.2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuju

How is this inventing, 2000 year following the Egyptians playing it?

Your position is full of nonsense. So much for your so called 'primary'
sources of information.

Lets compare the 'quality of information', so people can see which
of us tells the truth here...

''Zahi Hawass widely considered the world's most famous archaeologist -
attests that a precursor of the game we know today as football may
have been invented in Ancient Egypt.

That may come as no surprise to anyone who is familiar with the
Pharaohs' history of being first-movers. Practically everything in
the modern world (brain surgery, beer, and idol worship amongst them)
was invented by the Ancient Egyptians. And the beauty of it all is
that there's evidence.
which were also portrayed more than 5000 years ago at tombs in Saqqara.
"Many balls have been found in excavations, stuffed with palm or papyrus
fibre, or straw, and covered in sewn leather or cloth," Hawass confirmed.''


http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2004/2010/sc72.htm

Notice , this famous archaeologist is 'unkown' to rapunzel,
even though rapunzel has studied Egyptian history for 40 years.
( Most the time asleep then???)

Hence, the rest of rapunzel' post is then also rubbish and not
to be trusted.
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Old 23-11-2013, 04:57 PM   #364
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Rapunzel is determined to play down any masonic / illuminati elements
existing in pharaoh's day...

Let me add some colour(shame) to his/her cheeks....

Book of the dead...

....our next source of information is the famous papyrus containing
the "Maxims of Ani," .....

'em ab mert au metet-f nebt amennu ari-f'

'with a loving heart the petitions of which all are in secret. He will do'

Sounds masonic to me?

I find it funny to be honest, that rapunzel would be so naive
to think that royalty would not have oaths and secret
brotherhoods, in pharaohs day. How else would they plot?

Israel adopted pharaohs kingship. Rome adopted it also.

Then they adopted the oaths and brotherhood.
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Old 23-11-2013, 04:58 PM   #365
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How many times do you need to be told

SAVILLE WAS NOT A FREEMASON.


Yes, I was shouting so that the stupid and hard of understanding might, this time, get it.

Unless you are not interested in the truth of course.
saville was a roman catholic.
roman catholics are expressly forbidden from becoming masons.
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Old 23-11-2013, 05:01 PM   #366
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poorp old fluxxed just does not get it.
continual repetition of bullshit, does not make it true.

this guy simply refuses to post any sources.
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Old 23-11-2013, 06:46 PM   #367
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How many times do you need to be told

SAVILLE WAS NOT A FREEMASON.

Why does this freemason expect us to turst him?


Eastbeast exclaims with such authority above.
Then he must have subtance, to support his position?

No, then why say it with such authority?


If there is no substantiation coming from eastbeast, it would
imply deliberate mistruth's.

When we consider what substance we do have , knight of malta etc..
this begs the question how these people(eastbeast) can claim
anything otherwise. The connection to royalty is enough alone.

So we have 70% substantial fact , as opposed to 0% coming from
the masons here.

DEFEND YOUSELVES SCOOPS!!!

But they have nothing to offer, hence, no defence.
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Old 23-11-2013, 06:48 PM   #368
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saville was a roman catholic.
roman catholics are expressly forbidden from becoming masons.
For the record bikerdruid, are you then saying there
are no catholic freemasons?
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Old 23-11-2013, 06:53 PM   #369
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I have noticed these pagan minded people( masons included)
like to skip over truth. Do you notice, onlookers?

Such as...

The Queen is a descendant of pagan kings.

How is this possible if the monarchy claims divine
authority from non-pagan sources(christ) ?

The pagans hate this fact coming to light.
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Old 23-11-2013, 08:59 PM   #370
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Why does this freemason expect us to turst him?

No-one has ever tursted me, but everyone I know trusts me.

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Eastbeast exclaims with such authority above.
Then he must have subtance, to support his position?

Its called knowledge.
As I have stated on may occasions here, I am in a position to know.



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No, then why say it with such authority?

So you want me to prove a negative?
How am I going to do that?
Why don't you prove he was a Freemason?
No, you can't can you.
Because he was not a Freemason.

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If there is no substantiation coming from eastbeast, it would
imply deliberate mistruth's.

The only lies are coming from you.


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When we consider what substance we do have , knight of malta etc..
this begs the question how these people(eastbeast) can claim
anything otherwise. The connection to royalty is enough alone.

When you are able to rephrase this so it can be understood I might reply.


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So we have 70% substantial fact

When did lies and fabrication suddenly become fact?


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, as opposed to 0% coming from
the masons here.

You don't want truth as it doesn't fit your agenda and you wouldn't know what the truth was if it bit your arse.


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DEFEND YOUSELVES SCOOPS!!!

Defend against you?
What a laugh, you do have a superiority complex!


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But they have nothing to offer, hence, no defence.

We offer nothing but the truth, whether you want it or not is your choice. I rather fancy you enjoy being ignorant.
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Old 23-11-2013, 09:04 PM   #371
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Do you not see world leaders, royals, ect, bow and kiss the popes ring? The Vatican & Jesuit Order are the original modern day secret society. Medici, Breakspear, Orcini, + ten more Venetian families of the Black Nobility RUN the Vatican apparatus.
This is not evidence of anything other than a leader extending another leader a traditional and customary greeting. It's a sign of respect, particularly if they are Catholic themselves. Plus, not everyone does this when they meet the Pope as it has already been pointed out.

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Untrustwothy. Anyone supporting freemasons, is untrustworthy.
Well luckily this is only your opinion, not something indicative of reality.

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1) rapunzel( the misinformer) in the first place, why is royalty encouraging drugs, such as alcohol? It is a well know fact, during the Egytian empire, drunken celebration was very common.
There's nothing wrong with drinking alcohol.

I do love how you attempt to label all negative characteristics as something that came solely from Egyptian pharaohs. It's hilarious. So how do you explain pedophilia among non-royalty?

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Unless you are not interested in the truth of course.
He isn't.

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Rapunzel is determined to play down any masonic / illuminati elements existing in pharaoh's day...
You have yet to show any connection in the first place.

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Sounds masonic to me?
Who cares what it sounds like to you? You're not an expert on Freemasonry and what you believe and what is are two different things as anyone with half a brain can see.

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Then they adopted the oaths and brotherhood.
Prove it. Please show us the oaths that the Egyptians took and compare them to Masonic ones.

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When we consider what substance we do have , knight of malta etc.. this begs the question how these people(eastbeast) can claim anything otherwise. The connection to royalty is enough alone.
He was a part of the Catholic Knights of Malta, but that doesn't make him a Mason.

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The Queen is a descendant of pagan kings.
Post her family tree.
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'This is not evidence of anything other than a leader extending another leader a traditional and customary greeting. It's a sign of respect, particularly if they are Catholic themselves. Plus, not everyone does this when they meet the Pope as it has already been pointed out.' Bowing and kissing another mans ring is idolatry. Both the pagan pope and the cowering visitor are guilty of such. Respect? The Vatican/Jesuit order has none earned. Their history of crimes against true Christians and the rest of humanity. Secret Societies have no place in a free society. Covet means. Esoteric based 'crafts'. Arcane shard of hidden knowledge to be only 'bestowed' upon those whom serve a master.
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Who is the deity GAOTU to you and you? That deity belief is required.
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Lightbulb Jesus in the House of the Pharaohs



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=747U-5FclqM

The Essene Revelations on the Historical Jesus ...Using the evidence available from archaeology, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Koran, the Talmud, and biblical sources, Ahmed Osman provides a compelling case that both Jesus and Joshua were one and the same--a belief echoed by the early Church Fathers--and that this person was likewise the pharaoh Tutankhamun, who ruled Egypt between 1361 and 1352 B.C. and was regarded as the spiritual son of God. Osman contends that the Essene Christians--who followed Jesus' teachings in secret after his murder--only came into the open following the execution of their prophet John the Baptist by Herod, many centuries later. Yet it was also the Essenes who, following the death of Tutankhamun and his father Akhenaten (Moses), secretly kept the monotheistic religion of Egypt alive...

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For the record bikerdruid, are you then saying there
are no catholic freemasons?
the masons would allow a catholic to join, but if a catholic joins, he is excommunicate, and is no longer considered a catholic.
since it is a sin against the laws of the church, a catholic mason must keep this from his confessor, which is also a sin.

so, no, to the letter of church law, there are no catholic freemasons.
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the masons would allow a catholic to join, but if a catholic joins, he is excommunicate, and is no longer considered a catholic.
since it is a sin against the laws of the church, a catholic mason must keep this from his confessor, which is also a sin.

so, no, to the letter of church law, there are no catholic freemasons.
During my time in the masons I knew quite a few Catholic masons who were very open with their lodge membership.
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saville was a roman catholic.
roman catholics are expressly forbidden from becoming masons.
i think that they are expressly forbidden from raping and fiddling with kids and having sex with dead bodies - but that didn't stop his carrying on raping kids and having sex with dead bodies, did it?

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During my time in the masons I knew quite a few Catholic masons who were very open with their lodge membership.
then they were dishonest masons and dishonest catholics.
a 'catholic mason' is an oxymoron.

to the letter of church law, they are excommunicate and they are hypocrites if they still consider themselves catholic.

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then they were dishonest masons and dishonest catholics.
a 'catholic mason' is an oxymoron.

to the letter of church law, they are excommunicate and they are hypocrites if they still consider themselves catholic.
The Roman Pagan Church has gone to and fro in regards to masonic membership. This GATOU deity you are to believe in, what is it to you? God in Heaven, Lucifer, Satan, Baal, ect.
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Bowing and kissing another mans ring is idolatry.

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The Vatican/Jesuit order has none earned.
I'm not fan, but this is of course boils down to your opinion.

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Their history of crimes against true Christians and the rest of humanity.
Well, the Jesuits are not as old as the Vatican, but I get what you're saying.

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Secret Societies have no place in a free society.
Except Freemasonry is not a secret society, we a private society, an assemblage of free men exercising our rights to meet as we wish and on property often owned by us.

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Arcane shard of hidden knowledge to be only 'bestowed' upon those whom serve a master.
Yeah, that's not how it works in Freemasonry, but good try.

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Who is the deity GAOTU to you and you? That deity belief is required.
It's a generic term we use in Lodge and to me, it symbolizes Christ.
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