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Old 08-10-2010, 06:34 AM   #1
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Default Orgonite Controversy.

I know many of you believe in the power of orgonite, but I investigated this,
mentally and spiritually, and found out that orgonite is a dead material.

Unlike a real, normal, untreated crystal, which has a Light spirit and Light
energy, orgonite has no spirit, no Light.. no Light energy.

Orgonite consists of artificially grown crystals, metal shavings and other
materials, and what it does is manipulate energy. Where as the Light never
manipulates energy, it increases and restores the flow of Light energy and
releases non light energies connected to the Earth and to lifeforms, such
as animals and humans.

Manipulating energy, what orgonite does, creates imbalances in the flow of
that energy, and this can lead to nasty and unwanted effects. From what
I learned, the Light does not endorse using orgonite.

When we use orgonite, we ask a non living object to do healing for us,
instead of doing the healing ourselves. Real, non artificial crystals can be
used to augment our own healing abilities, but we are always the ones that
must do the healing, nothing can do this for us. There exist no objects or
materials that can do healing on their own.. only tools that can augment
our own healing gifts and energies.

This is just my belief of course, if you feel you need to use orgonite, go right
ahead, I won't try to convince you otherwise, I just wanted to share what
I found out about the connection between Light and orgonite.
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:44 AM   #2
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interesting.
how exactly did you come to find this out?
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:10 AM   #3
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Zsymon, why do you think that orgonite is made of artificially grown crystals? As far as I'm aware, crystals and gems that you can buy in the shops or online, to use in orgonite making, are the real deal. I've never heard of anyone using artificial gems!

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Old 08-10-2010, 11:04 AM   #4
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so you agree with the use of crystals, yet not coated crystals???
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Nothing like planting seeds of self perpetuating doubt eh.
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:59 PM   #6
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so you agree with the use of crystals, yet not coated crystals???
All I know is that the way orgonite manipulates energy, creates imbalances
in the flow of that energy. Just like telekinesis would create imbalances in
the flow of energy through whatever object is tried to move.
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Old 08-10-2010, 04:01 PM   #7
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Nothing like planting seeds of self perpetuating doubt eh.
I'm not asking anyone to believe me, I'm just suggesting that maybe using
bare crystals might be better than manipulating them with coatings and
metal shavings. Nature provided us with everything that is necessary, and
what she provides for us doesn't need to be manipulated to have effect.

In fact, many crystals lose their power when they are treated or tumbled
or polished or shaped into forms. Black tourmaline for example, which is one
of the most powerful protection (guardian) crystals, loses its power when
it is treated in some way, it has to remain a raw block, totally untreated,
apart from being chopped into raw pieces for size of course.

Not everything that travels the mainstream beliefs as "good", is in fact
good. Orgonite is just one of those examples, people either believe it works
or it doesn't, but no one considers that it may be harmful to the flows of
energy. A lot of knowledge that is shared in mainstream beliefs is harmful.

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so you agree with the use of crystals, yet not coated crystals???
When crystals are treated and manipulated like this, they lose their power,
their energy and their spirit.. they basically die.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:47 AM   #9
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Orgonite is just a tool.

How and why you use it is up to you.
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I don't know a great deal about orgonite, but from what I have read it sounds like a bunch of new-age nonsense. And as always, Fuck me for having an opinion.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:17 AM   #11
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I don't know a great deal about orgonite, but from what I have read it sounds like a bunch of new-age nonsense. And as always, Fuck me for having an opinion.
+1.

Neither my friends nor I have found it to be of any use.

It sells well though so it does have a purpose - for some
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:31 AM   #12
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I don't know a great deal about orgonite


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but from what I have read it sounds like a bunch of new-age nonsense. And as always, Fuck me for having an opinion.
No - fuck you for NOT having an informed opinion.

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Old 10-10-2010, 08:37 AM   #13
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No - fuck you for NOT having an informed opinion.
So if you were presented with something that sounded like complete bullshit in both premise AND application, you would continue to waste time learning about it? Kudos, but I value my time....

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I know many of you believe in the power of orgonite, but I investigated this,
mentally and spiritually, and found out that orgonite is a dead material.

Unlike a real, normal, untreated crystal, which has a Light spirit and Light
energy, orgonite has no spirit, no Light.. no Light energy.

Orgonite consists of artificially grown crystals, metal shavings and other
materials, and what it does is manipulate energy. Where as the Light never
manipulates energy, it increases and restores the flow of Light energy and
releases non light energies connected to the Earth and to lifeforms, such
as animals and humans.

Manipulating energy, what orgonite does, creates imbalances in the flow of
that energy, and this can lead to nasty and unwanted effects. From what
I learned, the Light does not endorse using orgonite.

When we use orgonite, we ask a non living object to do healing for us,
instead of doing the healing ourselves. Real, non artificial crystals can be
used to augment our own healing abilities, but we are always the ones that
must do the healing, nothing can do this for us. There exist no objects or
materials that can do healing on their own.. only tools that can augment
our own healing gifts and energies.

This is just my belief of course, if you feel you need to use orgonite, go right
ahead, I won't try to convince you otherwise, I just wanted to share what
I found out about the connection between Light and orgonite.
Orgonite is dead because there is no such thing as mystical 'energy', people just believe there is. Orgone was a conceptual force created in the 30's to symbolise the energy of the Orgasm.

Real "Energy" is a requirement of a thing's potential to do work. For example heat, inertia, thrust are all forms of Energy. When you consume food and burn food calories that is also Energy. When your muscles use calcium and other nutrients to contract this is Energy.

Everything else is a religion only.

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So if you were presented with something that sounded like complete bullshit in both premise AND application, you would continue to waste time learning about it? Kudos, but I value my time....
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No
I wouldn't dismiss anything based on what it sounded like.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:11 AM   #17
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I wouldn't dismiss anything based on what it sounded like.
By that I meant "light" research. I forgot to put on my "Philadelphia Lawyer's" head before posting that response.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:09 AM   #18
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I have been experimenting with orgonite for a year now and am convinced that it attracts life force energy..and amplifies the energy within the crystal.

I dont get what the op means by artificial crystals..I only use natural crystals in my orgonite..

I agree with the op though that the real power is the light within us..
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:29 AM   #19
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i have a couple of organite masterpieces, but to be honest i havent noticed much difference between now and before i got them. Having said that I am not particularly "alive" at the present due to humdrum existance so it might be me that isnt working, not the orgones.

I noticed freeman was skeptical of his orgonite as well....and he IS someone who appears to be very much alive
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It's important to understand then when Life energies are manipulated by crystals (and all crystals do so) they split into two, one goes into the seventeenth dimension where the Nassunaki reside and it becomes part of their world. The other half then goes on to join our energy.

However, there is one crystal that doesnt. Topaz.

Topaz was used in Mu by the Dark wizards, it was created and then spread around the earth. They used it to steal the life force from the Nassunaki as well as taking life Force from other beings.

This is why you have to be careful with Topaz, its powerfull stuff. You see, when topaz is used to manipulate energies it will take a small amount of life energy from surrounding life, and studies have shown this to be true.
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