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Old 07-07-2013, 05:46 PM   #3001
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No probs. I found the link.

Samir Loumachi 1 month ago

go to this link: goo.gl/maps/z2B4v and use street view as it will help you look at the lampost before the crash.
It's clear to see the marks on the lampost were there before the collision. With the extent of the crash, there
really should be at least, paint from the car smeared around the posts, let alone, dents in the lampost.
Great stuff Morris your doing us proud! support from New Zealand!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd36B0gxVtw

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Old 07-07-2013, 05:53 PM   #3002
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No probs. I found the link.

Samir Loumachi 1 month ago

go to this link: goo.gl/maps/z2B4v and use street view as it will help you look at the lampost before the crash.
It's clear to see the marks on the lampost were there before the collision. With the extent of the crash, there
really should be at least, paint from the car smeared around the posts, let alone, dents in the lampost.
Great stuff Morris your doing us proud! support from New Zealand!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd36B0gxVtw
Yep. Up to speed on the post.
OK, what I do know about crashing cars is never hit a feckin tree. Those bastards do not yield one bit. Telegraph poles do, lamp posts will and street signs (like this one) are not made of Teflon. It could be that part of DLR was caught between car and post but then there'd be blood I suppose.
But moving away from the car I still find the oddest thing being the public roaming around like feck all's happened, that and the police shooting when the public are all around the scene. That is just plain oustanding to me.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:54 PM   #3003
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Where is the pic of Lee Rigby from?
The mouth looks a good match. I'll wait to see what Granny thinks.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:58 PM   #3004
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Yep. Up to speed on the post.
OK, what I do know about crashing cars is never hit a feckin tree. Those bastards do not yield one bit. Telegraph poles do, lamp posts will and street signs (like this one) are not made of Teflon. It could be that part of DLR was caught between car and post but then there'd be blood I suppose.
But moving away from the car I still find the oddest thing being the public roaming around like feck all's happened, that and the police shooting when the public are all around the scene. That is just plain oustanding to me.
Totally agreed. That's how I see it. The Police could've used the bus as a shield
and shot from there.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:59 PM   #3005
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Where is the pic of Lee Rigby from?
The mouth looks a good match. I'll wait to see what Granny thinks.

Note the woman at the other side of him. Look familiar?
More pics on page 143

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Old 07-07-2013, 06:04 PM   #3006
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Note the woman at the other side of him. Look familiar?
I didn't see her initially. Wedding pics machine was upset about.

Also Boyadee made special reference to lady cop
she was like robocop he said.
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Totally agreed. That's how I see it. The Police could've used the bus as a shield
and shot from there.
JJ, I turned up at a car on fire and phoned the police and fire brigade and waited for all to arrive. The police got there first and were so bloody brutal and bastardish with a small crowd of us watching it burn. They made sure we fecked off and didn't come back, for our safety they said.
Well you can't tell me what I saw at Woolwich was the police doing what they should because no way would those passers by be ambling about, and shooting those two right next to spectating public? What bollocks. You get kettled for giving the bastards a funny look.

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Old 07-07-2013, 06:13 PM   #3008
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I didn't see her initially. Wedding pics machine was upset about.

Also Boyadee made special reference to lady cop
she was like robocop he said.
I'll give them credit, they've succeded in making fact stanger than fiction. When the truth becomes unbelievable then you can know as much as you want but no-one will ever believe you when you tell them.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:14 PM   #3009
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I'll give them credit, they've succeded in making fact stanger than fiction. When the truth becomes unbelievable then you can know as much as you want but no-one will ever believe you when you tell them.
And ain't that the feckin' idea eh?
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:22 PM   #3010
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:26 PM   #3011
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JJ, I turned up at a car on fire and phoned the police and fire brigade and waited for all to arrive. The police got their first and were so bloody brutal and bastardish with a small crowd of us watching it burn. They made sure we fecked off and din't come back, for our safety they said.
Well you can't tell me what I saw at Woolwich was the police doing what they should because no way would those passers by be ambling about, and shooting those two right next to spectating public? What bollocks. You get kettled for giving the bastards a funny look.
I think many including myself will have shared similar experience to yours.

Former Detective Chief Inspector Peter Kirkham he say's the following
regarding the attack and the attackers but the same can easily be applied to
the police response. The whole thing was crazy.

"I have never seen anything like this before, or even heard of it happening before.
For two suspects to carry out a brutal attack like this then stand around in plain sight
waiting for the police is crazy.

"The instant they spot the police car come round the corner they are on it straight away.
The first one is sprinting full speed towards the cops before they have even got out the car."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...ts-shot-police

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Old 07-07-2013, 06:31 PM   #3012
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I'll give them credit, they've succeded in making fact stanger than fiction. When the truth becomes unbelievable then you can know as much as you want but no-one will ever believe you when you tell them.
Couple of question's.

1) Why is the woman stood behind them at the wedding?
2) Do you have a name for the lady in either picture?
3) Could the woman be photoshopped into picture?

My thought's to first question, would be someone attending the bride.


She was attended by Debbie Helliwell, Louise and Ellie Metcalfe, Amy, Courtney and Chelsea Rigby.

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news...alfe-1-1995965
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Spivey doesn't mince his words does he.
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I think many including myself will have shared similar experience to yours.

Former Detective Chief Inspector Peter Kirkham he say's the following
regarding the attack and the attackers but the same can easily be applied to
the police response. The whole thing was crazy.

"I have never seen anything like this before, or even heard of it happening before.
For two suspects to carry out a brutal attack like this then stand around in plain sight
waiting for the police is crazy.

"The instant they spot the police car come round the corner they are on it straight away.
The first one is sprinting full speed towards the cops before they have even got out the car."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...ts-shot-police
That's it! It's not real is it? None of that seemed real to me and I don't go looking for subterfuge everywhere - but this was taking the piss.
And as some have said, taking bullets like they did must have stung a bit (lol!)and I expected a bit more shrieking. A girl broke her shin bone outside my place and she deafened the place in agony. Theses shot guys played dead. Utter bollocks.
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Spivey doesn't mince his words does he.
Fuck me lmao!!
I suppose he said what many think and would never say out loud lol!
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:50 PM   #3016
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Spivey doesn't mince his words does he.
Looking forward to the full article.
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Couple of question's.

1) Why is the woman stood behind them at the wedding?
2) Do you have a name for the lady in either picture?
3) Could the woman be photoshopped into picture?

My thought's to first question, would be someone attending the bride.


She was attended by Debbie Helliwell, Louise and Ellie Metcalfe, Amy, Courtney and Chelsea Rigby.

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news...alfe-1-1995965
I haven't got many answers for you. It was posted by felix after someone else had posted a cropped version with the woman pixelated out. I just thought she looked familiar. felix gives his source as:
https://www.facebook.com/DrummerLeeRigbySupportForAHero
The woman who looks beaten up is....
http://www.nicolaschuller.com/special-effect-makeup

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That's it! It's not real is it? None of that seemed real to me and I don't go looking for subterfuge everywhere - but this was taking the piss.
And as some have said, taking bullets like they did must have stung a bit (lol!)and I expected a bit more shrieking. A girl broke her shin bone outside my place and she deafened the place in agony. Theses shot guys played dead. Utter bollocks.
Of couse it's not real @Boyadee told us as much in his 4th tweet "that was some movie shit"
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One of many things I can't get my head round is 'his' battallion being in on it??

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Old 07-07-2013, 07:20 PM   #3020
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One of many things I can't get my head round is 'his' battallion being in on it??
They didn't need to be. He was working at the Tower of London in recruitment and has been for a while.
Though based at Woolwich. The place being big and with people often stationed overseas. Means many
wouldn't have seen him or had much close contact. Also his battallion was in Cyprus at the time I believe
and his new girlfriend (fiancee) was in Afghanistan.

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