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Old 04-10-2015, 02:07 PM   #21
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What is that Sherlock Holmes quote - you know, the one about 'once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable ...'
At least having a debate about these events, allows them to be looked at from every angle. When 9/11 happened, nobody could have told me it was an inside job. I have family members who are still in that position. Maybe the bus crash is just an accident, but being vigilant is no bad thing. It may well have prevented many more false flags, that a too trusting public would have fallen for.
Thanks aster ,TBH I think it was just a Bus Crash ,but I was only talking about unmanned buses because somebody asked "why would they be faking these crashes" I was just throwing it out there .....
but the usual suspects come along and try to shut down any type of out of the box thinking . As you say everything should be up for debate.
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Old 04-10-2015, 02:21 PM   #22
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because theyve got nothing better to do with there time than to engineer bus crashs so a few companys can bring in driverless buses andd save what a few million on wages tops hahahahahaha get out of town, seriously not even you think thats a possibility? surely.
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because theyve got nothing better to do with there time than to engineer bus crashs so a few companys can bring in driverless buses andd save what a few million on wages tops hahahahahaha get out of town, seriously not even you think thats a possibility? surely.

I clearly have already told you that I think it was just a bus crash ...stop with the sneering , but why is it beyond the realm of possibility ??

Lets say they do try to introduce driverless buses at some point,what do you think the public reaction would be ?? I am guessing there would be a lot of resistance .
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No wonder people mock.......

A bus crashes and its a conspiracy......

What a load of complete and utter bollox.....sorry but....
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Old 04-10-2015, 03:06 PM   #25
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so to aid that along stagecoach would start crashing there own buses? you not think they might end up paying rather alot out in payouts, added to the cost in public image they would suffer. and i think i will carry on with the sneering at these endless screams of FAKE and pys-op for every event thank you.
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Old 04-10-2015, 05:55 PM   #26
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Very good point! Especially when you realise how many bus incidents there are, and a lot do involve Stagecoach (could be that there are more Stagecoach busses than other companies). Just a few recent ones -

April 2015 Scotland - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...p-deck-5473736

June 2015 Scotland - http://www.itv.com/news/border/updat...o-coach-crash/

July 2015 Liverpool - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...-taken-9592873

Sept 2015 Cambridge - http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/10-p...ail/story.html
Thanks - they all look suspicious. The Cambridge bus might have had the wheel removed then shoved back in place. The Croy low bridge incident looks very staged indeed. Why on earth would the alleged passenger smell smoke? It is incredible that a bus company like Stagecoach would schedule a double deck bus on a low bridge route. The Borders crash photo shows nothing, as in most drills - the bus is just parked up and a bit of rubble has been dumped in the road to simulate a collision with the wall. And at Liverpool the big give-away is this:
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Following the incident Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service had to cut off the roof of the car, a Mitsubishi Carisma, in order for those inside to receive treatment.
The emergency services just love cutting open vehicles in drills - buses, cars, anything. As indeed they did in the Glasgow bin lorry episode.

There are probably stacks more of these "crashes" if we looked.
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Still no takers on the 9 year old girl with minor injuries who morphs into 9 year old girl seriously ill in hospital...or the boy apparently certified dead in the bus yet taken to Birmingham Children's Hospital... OK

Time to watch this crazy video
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34437218
The footage is deliberately fuzzy and shaky to create the impression of panic, when the bus has already been parked up. Where are the "passengers trapped upstairs"? We can't see them. Why on earth would they be trapped? The staircase is away from the impact zone, the front door and downstairs emergency exit are undamaged. How is Daham Mohammed smashing windows to rescue passengers? Did he/they climb through the smashed windows?

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Eyewitnesses described the bus coming down this street and hitting parked cars and then mounting the pavement. It struck this lamppost [no damage visible] but it didn't stop and it careered down the street and ploughed into the shop
- Nick Beake, BBC News.

A fusion and rehashing of Woolwich and Glasgow bin lorry narratives.

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Old 04-10-2015, 08:39 PM   #28
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Stop right now! You are making yourself look like a complete plank!

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Old 04-10-2015, 10:10 PM   #29
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Today, a bus flying at thirty thousand feet crashed into a lollipop lady. The carnage meant things fell out of the sky, in particular busses impersonating planes.

“Is it a bird, is it a plane, or is it a bus?” One witness who vanished up into the ether proclaimed.

Gosh.

A military spokesman spoke up and spoke about the never ending speakers who speak about the spokers.

“Who the feck are they speaking about the spokers when we have flying busses crashing and burning?”

The spokers and the speakers totally deny flying busses anywhere in the United Kingdom, for example, there were no flying busses over Lowestoft last night.
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Well, as Richard D. Hall says "Trust none of what you hear and only half of what you see" or is it the other way round - far better (IMO) to maintain a healthy scepticism for anything the MSM shoves in our faces. Just a few years ago, few people questioned the official narrative (Government is there to protect you, etc) Anyone notice the ads on the 'Guardian' front page a year or so before 7/7, asking for MI5 recruits from Ethnic minorities? Several researchers such as Nick Kollerstrom have suggested the so-called tube and bus 'bombers' were actually Intelligence service patsies. Other research hints at military grade explosives, not the chapati flour, black pepper, etc drivel which some media outlets suggested. Maybe this bush crash is just a simple accident - but I, for one, feel safer because so many are prepared to challenge officially-sanctioned hogwash.

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Old 05-10-2015, 09:15 AM   #31
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so to aid that along stagecoach would start crashing there own buses? you not think they might end up paying rather alot out in payouts, added to the cost in public image they would suffer. and i think i will carry on with the sneering at these endless screams of FAKE and pys-op for every event thank you.
What about the public relations win they could get if there were to introduce the latest in all singing - all dancing driverless buses a couple of years from now.

I can see the blurb now...

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Stagecoach has developed this super-safe driver-less technology in response to the alarming recent increase in accidents involving buses...

Stacegoach, getting you from A to B safely.

Coming soon, to a city near you.
*ad made up. Other bus companies are available.

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Old 05-10-2015, 10:17 AM   #32
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Imo if tptb or whomever, want driverless busses there is a good chance that an accident involving a bus will be used and seen as an opportunity to promote this. To stage a crash would not be nnecessary as they happen anyway.
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Guess what? IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!
How do you know? You read it in the MSM?
I just read this
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;The 77-year-old driver of a double-decker bus which crashed into a supermarket, killing two people, is helping police with their inquiries.

An eight-year-old girl remains in a stable condition in hospital after the crash which killed her seven-year-old cousin, police said.
Both were upper-deck passengers on the bus which crashed into Sainsbury's on Trinity Street, Coventry.
A woman in her 70s who was a pedestrian was also killed.
Specialist officers are supporting the families of the boy, from Leamington Spa, and the woman, from Nuneaton.
The nine year old girl is now eight years old.


Talk about people having to work beyond 65....He's not called Harry by any chance is he?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-34442039
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The bus company, Stagecoach Midlands, said: "No driver we employ is allowed behind the wheel of our buses without us being satisfied that they are fully qualified, safe and meet all necessary legal requirements. In this case, our driver has many years' experience and has also passed a mandatory annual medical.

Almas Fatima from Pleck, Walsall, said her two daughters, aged 12 and 14, were not able to sleep after they saw the crash and narrowly missed being hit.
"I just remember a bus coming towards us and we survived. That's the only thing we remember," she said.
Shopping must be bad in Walsall Leamington Spa and Nuneaton

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https://twitter.com/LatestNews_UK/st...00289584001024
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Latest news UK @LatestNews_UK
Boy, 7, killed in Coventry bus crash named as Rowan Fitzgerald - http://latestnewsuk.com/latestnews/b...an-fitzgerald/

12:45 PM - 5 Oct 2015 [ BST]
excellent advertising shot for the supermarket, btw.

https://twitter.com/newslock_uknews/...13161680785408


why is nobody looking up at the point of impact? They seem bored. I'm sure I would have been curious.

Damage
https://twitter.com/5_News/status/651015699813531648


https://twitter.com/Daily_Star/statu...06447518527489


https://twitter.com/ju0dy/status/651322421262192640
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Josh Halliday Verified account @JoshHalliday [The Guardian]
Coventry bus crash victims named as Rowan Fitzgerald, 7, and Dora Hancox, in her 70s. Rowan's cousin, 8, is stable in hospital, police say.
1:33 PM - 5 Oct 2015 [BST]


Judy @ju0dy
Young Leamington boy killed in Coventry city centre bus crash named - 79 http://dlvr.it/CMX25B

10:05 AM - 6 Oct 2015 [BST]

Still no age given for Dora? Ah,
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Dora Hancox....was 76 [/quoted]
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-10-05/s...ells-itv-news/
5 October 2015 at 5:06pm
according to her daughter Wendy, 44.
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Wendy Hancox, the daughter of Dora Hancox, told ITV News she was "just starting to live again" following the death of her husband Harry
I don't see any probate for Harry yet.

Here's the bus driver, 77. not in his Stagecoach uniform

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...claim-vehicle-travelling-60mph.html

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Ms Hancox was a widow and grandmother of four who lost her husband Harry aged 80 in 2012.

A woman, who said she was one of Ms Hancox's daughters, said: 'We are devastated. My mum was just visiting Coventry when it happened.

A colleague of the bus driver, a married father of two and former Labour councillor, told how he had worked at the Stagecoach Midlands company for 42 years.

It is thought the bus involved had dropped off some passengers at a stop adjacent to Coventry Transport Museum – yards from Sainsbury’s – just before the crash.
A taxi driver, who was waiting in the rank but [ b]asked not to be named,[/b]said the bus had pulled in behind another bus at the stop, but clipped the first vehicle as it departed.

It then swerved across to the other side of the road and mounted the pavement, travelling across a stepped grassy area before hitting the elderly female pedestrian.

Cyclist Saqalain Ahmed, 19, said he saw the bus’s brake lights illuminating as it travelled towards the supermarket – but claimed the vehicle was continuing to gain speed.
The bus was travelling at around 15mph but it was out of control.’
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One taxi driver said: “I would say it was travelling at 50mph or 60mph. I think the speed limit is 20mph. I am still in shock.”
source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...o-shop-6574272
Really, are we expected to believe that nonsense?
So, it's a swerving 15 mph bus crash. Not 60mph. Another echo of the Glasgow bin lorry.

The usual video footage - shaky, blurred, dubbed...drill quality


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I was at the bus and coach show at the NEC last week. There was no sign of any manufacturers or technology companies promoting driverless buses.
Yutong were there, this is the manufacturer that made the driverless coach embedded earlier in the thread, there was no promotion by them of this technology.
driverless trains such as docklands are the way forward for driverless vehicles - maybe trams......
Unfortunately i have attended many bus RTCs and they do happen, the worse both involving drivers who had medical issues (epilepsy and heart attack).
I spoke to a contact at stagecoach and the coventry incident was not staged from his perspective!!!
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Bus crashes are a good distraction from the recent USA bombing of a hospital in Kunduz in Afghanistan in which doctors, patients and other innocents were blown to bits. UK media should be hounding the US government, as they would Russia, China, Iran, Syria and Palestine if they did the same.
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I was at the bus and coach show at the NEC last week. There was no sign of any manufacturers or technology companies promoting driverless buses.
Yutong were there, this is the manufacturer that made the driverless coach embedded earlier in the thread, there was no promotion by them of this technology.
driverless trains such as docklands are the way forward for driverless vehicles - maybe trams......
Unfortunately i have attended many bus RTCs and they do happen, the worse both involving drivers who had medical issues (epilepsy and heart attack).
I spoke to a contact at stagecoach and the coventry incident was not staged from his perspective!!!
I think it was just a crash but then I read this ......

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the bus involved had dropped off some passengers at a stop adjacent to Coventry Transport Museum – yards from Sainsbury’s – just before the crash.
That much damage at a slow speed ???? seems very strange .
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yes, all the rubbish that is was going 60mph, no way could a bus get up to that speed there, or even a car would find it hard.

grannie, the stop he dropped them off then is so close, i find it very hard to believe it could have gathered that amount of speed to make that about of damage?!?! the stop is so close to the sainsbury's!

big double decker takes them a while to get going. seems a bit weird i must say
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I spoke to a contact at stagecoach and the coventry incident was not staged from his perspective!!!
A highly objective source. Care to elucidate?



Has the "teen hero" emerged yet?

Some photos of the 2012 Coventry bus "crash" where a single decker was neatly inserted into a shop front after a 90 degree turn

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mercia...ry/6833489936/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mercia...ry/6833489876/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mercia...ry/6979617527/
[yes, that is the same bus...]
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