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Old 10-06-2008, 10:30 PM   #1
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this for tomorrows forecast on the jonathan cainer page .Interesting how they equate the journey of the sun with the same orbit of saturn!! Also how he states he keeps finding hidden astrology in the worlds religions .look a bit harder im sure he will find lots more .
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Dear Jonathan,
Jewish tradition states that every 28 years, the Sun returns to the same position it was in on the day of Creation. We make a blessing called the Birkat ha-Hammah which we recite every 10,227 (28 x 365.25) days. It happens next on April 8, 2009.
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Dear Matt,
That's fascinating. Saturn, of course, takes roughly 28 years to travel round the Sun, but I wonder what the rabbis think the Sun travels around? And how can they be sure when the first day of Creation was? I keep finding more hidden astrology in the world's ancient religions.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:40 AM   #2
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Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn are planets used as symbols in alchemy. Saturn is related to root chakra up to Sun related to crown chakra. Astrology put in relation stars movements (=flow of time) with human energies and alchemical elements (air,fire,water,earth).
That's all. The remain of astrology is only a crap.
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this adds to jordan maxwells assertion that judaism is based on the worship of saturn
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this adds to jordan maxwells assertion that judaism is based on the worship of saturn
Thats why i posted this the symbolic linking of the two satan /saturn .Why the fascination with this planet above others , venus gets lots of attention as well , but where does the saturn element come into the equation .In 2010 the Arthur c Clarke book it is saturn isn't it that they intend to ignite as a second sun .haggbard celine would know the answer to that one he has posted on it a few times .
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this adds to jordan maxwells assertion that judaism is based on the worship of saturn
Correct.

For example this is the meaning of days of week related to chakras and alchemical elements:

7. Sun-day – Gold – Crown chakra – URANIC gate – Point of soul

6. Moon-day – Silver – Third eye

5. Tues-day (in italian marte-dì or Mars day) – ETHER - Iron/Sulphur – Throat chakra

4. Wednes-day (in Italian mercole-di or Mercury day) – AIR - Mercury - Heart chakra – Point of spirit

3. Thurs-day (in Italian giove-di or Jupiter day) – FIRE - Tin – Solar plexus chakra

2. Fri-day (in Italian vener-di or Venus day) – WATER - Sacral plexus chakra

1. Satur-day (Saturn day) – EARTH - Salt/Ammoniac – Root chakra – TELLURIC gate

The day of rest is Saturday for Jews and Sunday for catholics.

This shows you that YHVH is a TELLURIC God while Christ (and his Father and his Holy Spirit) is an URANIC God (UR=FIRE).

This is a good example to show that YHVH is not the celestial father of Christianity but only the demiurg entity of gypsy-jews.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:25 PM   #6
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"look a bit harder im sure he will find lots more ."
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Old 13-06-2008, 08:47 PM   #7
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Saturn takes 29 years ans 167 days to revolve around the Sun. It is mythologically associated with Chronos, the god of time. Babylonians believed Saturn was the god closest to the Empyrean (?) Chronos lost his power to Zeus after devouring all his children except for Zeus. Food for thought eh?
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Very interesting lyrics about Saturn

Tool - The Grudge

Wear your grudge like a crown of negativity.
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate.
Desperate to control all and everything.
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.

Clutch it like a cornerstone. otherwise it all comes down.
Justify denials and grip it to the lonesome end.
Clutch it like a cornerstone. otherwise it all comes down.
Terrified of being wrong. ultimatum prison cell.

Saturn ascends, choose one or ten. hang on or be humbled again.

Clutch it like a cornerstone. otherwise it all comes down.
Justify denials and grip it to the lonesome end.
Saturn ascends, comes round again.
Saturn ascends, the one, the ten. ignorant to the damage done.

Wear your grudge like a crown of negativity.
Calculate what you will or will not tolerate.
Desperate to control all and everything.
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen.

Wear the grudge like a crown. desperate to control.
Unable to forgive. and were sinking deeper.

Defining, confining, sinking deeper. controlling, defining, and were sinking
Deeper.

Saturn comes back around to show you everything
Lets you choose what you will not see and then
Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again
Spits you out like a child, light and innocent.

Saturn comes back around. lifts you up like a child or
Drags you down like a stone to
Consume you till you choose to let this go.
Choose to let this go.

Give away the stone. let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated
Anchor.
Give away the stone. let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges
Into gold.

Let go.
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Old 13-06-2008, 09:09 PM   #9
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Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn are planets used as symbols in alchemy. Saturn is related to root chakra up to Sun related to crown chakra. Astrology put in relation stars movements (=flow of time) with human energies and alchemical elements (air,fire,water,earth).
That's all. The remain of astrology is only a crap.
thank you thank you you've answer a niggling question
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