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I was looking for some information online and stumbled on this article about fabian socialism which has lots of good info in it. To be clear i am not attacking 'socialism' i am attacking 'state-socialism' which is what the fabians want. The fabians want to enslave the workers under an all powerful state which is why so many rich and powerful people support it

I don't know who runs the site or who wrote the article (hopefully not some far right group or something!) i am only looking at the article and in this case about fabian socialism

David Rockefeller wrote a favourable thesis on fabian socialism and you have to ask yourself why a billionaire would be interested in socialism which traditionally has been about allowing the workers to take control of the means of production

The answer is that he supports 'state-socialism' not 'libertarian-socialism'. Much of what the corporate media calls the 'left' is in fact the fake 'state-socialism' that the billionaire oligarchs support. They are using fabianism to destroy democracy which allows the workers a say in order to build a state-socialist, 'command and control' economy that will be dominated by the oligarchs. They are using international trade agreements like the TTP and TTIP to achieve that corporate dominance over national governments (which they seek to destroy)

see article in next post
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The Fabian Society: the masters of subversion unmasked
by Cassivellaunus, 31 March 2013

Fabianism is a radical London-based movement initiated in the 1880s for the purpose of subverting the existing order and establishing a Socialist World Government controlled by its leaders and by the financial interests associated with them.

In fact, the Webbs were in regular touch with the likes of Arthur Balfour and Richard Haldane (a member of the Fabian Society) who served as contacts between the Fabians and the powerful and wealthy. As their social circle expanded, the Webbs’ frequent dinners, informal meetings, and “little parties” enabled them to mingle with leading members of the ruling elite like Lord Rosebery, Julius Wernher (of the gold and diamond mining company Wernher, Beit & Co.) and Lord Rothschild, and talk them into backing their subversive projects.

http://freebritainnow.org/0/fabiansociety.htm
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The fabian society: a wolf in sheeps clothing

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It is essential to understand, however, that this was far from being a one-way affair. The leading elements of liberal capitalism – the big businessmen, industrialists and bankers – who had amassed great wealth in the wake of the industrial revolution, were no selfless philanthropists. They aimed to strengthen their own position of power and influence by two means: (1) by monopolising finance, economy and politics; and (2) by controlling the growing urban working class.

As pointed out by H. G. Wells, big business was by no means antipathetic to Communism as “the larger big business grows the more it approximates to Collectivism” (Wells, p. 100). Similarly, Joseph A Schumpeter, who taught David Rockefeller at Harvard, wrote:

''The true pacemakers of socialism were not the intellectuals or agitators who preached it but the Vanderbilts, Carnegies and Rockefellers (Schumpeter, p. 134).''

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The Fabian Society: the masters of subversion unmasked
by Cassivellaunus, 31 March 2013

Fabianism is a radical London-based movement initiated in the 1880s for the purpose of subverting the existing order and establishing a Socialist World Government controlled by its leaders and by the financial interests associated with them.

In fact, the Webbs were in regular touch with the likes of Arthur Balfour and Richard Haldane (a member of the Fabian Society) who served as contacts between the Fabians and the powerful and wealthy. As their social circle expanded, the Webbs’ frequent dinners, informal meetings, and “little parties” enabled them to mingle with leading members of the ruling elite like Lord Rosebery, Julius Wernher (of the gold and diamond mining company Wernher, Beit & Co.) and Lord Rothschild, and talk them into backing their subversive projects.

http://freebritainnow.org/0/fabiansociety.htm
Prime Minister Arthur Balfour was President of the SPR (Society for Psychical Research), of which a member was Fabian Society co-founder FRANK PODMORE. The SPR and British occult societies of the 19th century helped spawn the New Age movement, IMO, and associated UN network of globalist institutions.
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Prime Minister Arthur Balfour was President of the SPR (Society for Psychical Research), of which a member was Fabian Society co-founder FRANK PODMORE. The SPR and British occult societies of the 19th century helped spawn the New Age movement, IMO, and associated UN network of globalist institutions.
'podmore'?

'pod' or bod is penis in the old language
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The Fabian Society has always been the home of comfortably off middle-class Labour Party supporters.
It used to be quite a wealthy society, not sure about now as they are a lot smaller in numbers than they were.
You can see a membership list on Wikki, it is hundreds not thousands.
When the Fabians were a rich society they put a lot of money inro Labour Movement Education.
I went to Ruskin College Oxford ( a Labour movement College) and our halls of residence had been paid for by the Fabian Society. At Headingron Campus there was 'Sid' and 'Beattie' halls named after Sid and Beattie Webb the famous Fabian couple.
Can deffo say with knowledge and conviction that every Ruskin student in my years held the Fabians in utter contempt as middle-class 'roaders'.
It used to be a big thing in the union movement slagging off Fabians. You got working class 'brownie points' for doing so.
I don't think Fabianism is at all influential within socialism -outside of London and the Westminster bubble' these days.
The suggestion that Fabianism somehow started the'New Age' movement is beyond risible and that wolf in sheep clothing badge above isn't the Fabian Society logo. More here on the Fabian Society.. http://www.fabians.org.uk/about/

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The Fabian Society has always been the home of comfortably off middle-class Labour Party supporters.
It used to be quite a wealthy society, not sure about now as they are a lot smaller in numbers than they were.
You can see a membership list on Wikki, it is hundreds not thousands.
When the Fabians were a rich society they put a lot of money inro Labour Movement Education.
I went to Ruskin College Oxford ( a Labour movement College) and our halls of residence had been paid for by the Fabian Society. At Headingron Campus there was 'Sid' and 'Beattie' halls named after Sid and Beattie Webb the famous Fabian couple.
Can deffo say with knowledge and conviction that every Ruskin student in my years held the Fabians in utter contempt as middle-class 'roaders'.
It used to be a big thing in the union movement slagging off Fabians. You got working class 'brownie points' for doing so.
I don't think Fabianism is at all influential within socialism -outside of London and the Westminster bubble' these days.
The suggestion that Fabianism somehow started the'New Age' movement is beyond risible and that wolf in sheep clothing badge above isn't the Fabian Society logo. More here on the Fabian Society.. http://www.fabians.org.uk/about/
you should read the article in the OP to learn just how powerful the fabians are

All the 'blairites' in the labour party for example are fabians and they have held labour in a chokehold for years. milliband was another fabian and even corbyn has given a speech to the fabian society so clearly they are more powerful then you are making them out to be

Many people who consider themselves 'left wing' don't in fact realise that not all 'left' organisations are working for the best interests of workers

many of them are in fact working to empower the state which is the agenda of the rothschilds who have funded fabianism

i hope you are not trying to play down the influence of the fabians GMP thereby trying to get people to relax and take their attention off this influential group?
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Wolf in sheeps clothing symbol:

The Fabian Society was named—at the suggestion of Frank Podmore—in honour of the Roman general Fabius Maximus (nicknamed "Cunctator", meaning the "Delayer"). His Fabian strategy sought gradual victory against the Carthaginian army under the renowned general Hannibal through persistence, harassment, and wearing the enemy down by attrition rather than head-on battles.

An explanatory note appearing on the title page of the group's first pamphlet declared:

"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."[6]

According to author Jon Perdue, “The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal.”[7] The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations.

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wolf in sheeps clothing...the original coat of arms

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I was looking for some information online and stumbled on this article about fabian socialism which has lots of good info in it. To be clear i am not attacking 'socialism' i am attacking 'state-socialism' which is what the fabians want. The fabians want to enslave the workers under an all powerful state which is why so many rich and powerful people support it
I reject this entire premise, despite the fact that the elites were behind the Fabian Society. Its not that the Fabians want to enslave workers under an "all powerful state" Its that they want to control the opposition and make sure that it does not get out of hand and have real organic power and organization. They basically want to make limited concessions to workers through their luke warm forms of socialism which Europe fully commited to after WW2 and America did with the "New Deal"

Fabians created Labour government which won many rights for workers and instituted the National Health Services.

THIS DID IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE IN THE UK, THIS IS WITHOUT QUESTION.

So please tell me how the Fabians are enslaving workers, when they implemented many improvements in British Society.

And it is vital to understand that the socialist reforms never came close to what was implemented in the USSR.

Again this is a lukewarm concession in order to satisfy and pacify the masses so that they will not seek violent revolution. Keep them happy enough not to riot.


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I don't know who runs the site or who wrote the article (hopefully not some far right group or something!) i am only looking at the article and in this case about fabian socialism
The site is run by white nationalists who think that Immigration and multiculturalism are the biggest problem that the UK faces today. Surprise surprise. They also believe Socialism is the worst thing ever to happen to mankind and support Nigel Farage and the UKIP. I'd take what they say with a massive grain of salt considering they have a very narrowminded political agenda, which includes demonization of immigrants, socialists, and anything leftist. NOt objective source what so ever.

Can you find any authors who go on about immigration, socialism, cultural Marxism, who aren't some kind of white supremacists ? I doubt it.


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David Rockefeller runs the Chicago School of Economics, which birthed the Austrian School of Economics (Libertarianism) Gave us guys like Milton Friedman, Paul Volker, Freidrich Von Hayek, Murray Rothbard. These were all Zionist Jews who promoted Libertarianism in the US as an arm of the oligarchs to battle against the small gains the workers made through government policies like FDR's new deal.

David Rockefeller described himself as a Libertarian. The whole network of right wing think tanks, which promote this ideology financed by Rockefellers and the Kochs has the sole intention of demonizing progressive economic policies and roling back the social state.

The Mont Pellerin society birthed the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Hoover Institute, Council for National Policy, John Birch Society, Tea Party, Patriot Movement, etc.

All these think tanks and organizations with far more money behind them than any so called "socialist" organizations ARE ACTUALLY FORMULATING POLICY TODAY, UNLIKE THE FABIAN SOCIALISTS.

We can go back and forth exposing links to certain movements, think tanks, and groups, but more importantly WHAT POLICIES ARE IMPLEMENTED TODAY ?

They aren't Fabian Socialist policies that's for sure, but they are perfectly in line with the stated economic goals off the rightwing "neoliberal" economic thinktanks and organizations.

Cato Institute
Mont Pellerin Society
Council for National Policy
Heritage Foundation
American International Institute
Hoover Institute
John Birch Society


The Koch family whose combined assets make them the richest family in the world according to Forbes has money in virtually all of these organizations.

THEIR STATED GOAL IS TO DESTROY SOCIALISM.

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The answer is that he supports 'state-socialism' not 'libertarian-socialism'. Much of what the corporate media calls the 'left' is in fact the fake 'state-socialism' that the billionaire oligarchs support. They are using fabianism to destroy democracy which allows the workers a say in order to build a state-socialist, 'command and control' economy that will be dominated by the oligarchs. They are using international trade agreements like the TTP and TTIP to achieve that corporate dominance over national governments (which they seek to destroy)

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No this is a complete misdiagnosis.

Tell me where state socialism is supported today , it isn't anywhere. Social democracies in Europe aren't state socialism. They are not close to being anything like the USSR which was shut down by the elites 25 years ago. The other state socialist countries like Cuba have been isolated from the world community. So it is laughable to suggest the elites are trying to push this.

The Fabian connection simply means the elites understood that socialism would eventually become popular by the masses and sought to control such eventual popularism and limit its influence, which is why Western Europe only employed small amounts of socialist policies in its economic system.
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The problem facing the world today aint "state socialism" and it aint Fabian Socialists. It is the Neoliberal economic agenda. That is Freemarket capitalism. Any serious researcher knows this, those who have not been deceived by the Koch machine and all of their fronts and thinktanks.

The Mont Pèlerin Society: The ultimate neoliberal Trojan horse

October 29, 2012


Walter Lippmann, the American journalist and CFR co-founder whose ideas led to the birth of the Mont Pèlerin SocietyFar from being merely a “debate club”, the Mont Pèlerin Society is an elite globalist organization that played a leading role in shaping the economic policies of several countries and in creating numerous think-tanks devoted to propagating the theories of the Chicago and Austrian schools of economics. In this article, Memehunter delves into the origins and goals of the MPS, and analyzes its impact on postwar economic policies.



The globalist origins of the Mont Pèlerin Society: Lippmann, Rappard, and Rockefeller money

Although the birth of the Mont Pèlerin Society (MPS) officially took place in 1947, its conception can be traced back to 1938. Capitalizing on American journalist Walter Lippmann’s visit to Paris, French right-wing philosopher Louis Rougier decided to organize a “Walter Lippmann Colloquium” (WLC) that would build upon the ideas presented in Lippmann’s recent book The Good Society and promote the neoliberal ideology that was threatened by the emergence of fascist and communist regimes in Europe.

Lippmann (1889-1974), who came from an upper-class German-Jewish background, was initially very influenced by the views of the Fabian Society: he was a founder and president of the Harvard Socialist Club as a student. Soon, Lippmann began moving in elite circles. Already in 1917, he was working with “colonel” Edward Mandell House as an advisor to President Woodrow Wilson and participated in drafting the famous “Fourteen Points” speech.

Together with House, Lippmann was one of the founding members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Lippmann, who viewed journalism as “intelligence work”, was very interested in the manipulation of public opinion, as evidenced by his book by that same title published in 1922. His political views apparently changed in the 1930s, and he openly began discussing liberalism as a viable alternative to socialism.

Upon hearing the news about Lippmann’s visit, Rougier, who already in 1934 had received a grant from the Rockefeller Foundation to investigate totalitarianism in Central Europe, contacted Swiss academic William Rappard to discuss a list of attendees for the colloquium. Rappard, a hardcore globalist, had known both Lippmann and House for several years (he taught at Harvard in 1911-12), and had been instrumental in convincing Wilson to choose Geneva for the seat of the League of Nations in 1920. Rappard’s globalist achievements are celebrated nowadays in the form of the Center William Rappard, the headquarters of the World Trade Organization in Geneva.

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https://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/...-trojan-horse/
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How the Money Power created Libertarianism and Austrian Economics

by Anthony Migchels on February 17, 2012

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“You say that Marxism is the very antithesis of capitalism, which is equally sacred to us [The Money Power] It is precisely for this reason that they are direct opposites to one another, that they put into our hands the two poles of this planet and allow us to be its axis. These two contraries, like Bolshevism and ourselves, find their identity in the International.”
Otto Kahn, Investment Banker


William S. Volker (1859-1947) was a wealthy German-Jewish businessman. Dismayed by the rise of Socialism in America, he created the Volker fund to provide a reactionary ideology based on “laissez-faire” and Social Darwinism. This was to become Libertarianism.


This article was written for Henry Makow

Libertarianism and its twin sister Austrian Economics were invented by the Money Power to be the other side of the dialectic with Communism.

According to this amazing report, all non-specified quotes in this essay are taken from it, “Volker was no great scholar or thinker. The ideology he set out to create was built upside down, starting only with a set of foggy conclusions for which he had a predisposition. From these conclusions, it was the task of Volker’s considerable fortune to find a set of justifications, then an enabling ideology or “theory” that gave it all perspective and unity and, eventually, a true philosophical platform from which to launch the whole.”

Even though Volker was not an economist of philosopher he had money and, very important, influential relations with the University of Chicago, founded by John D. Rockefeller.

This turned out to be a crucial connection.

Volker’s nephew Harold Luhnow took over the Fund in 1944.

Friedrich Hayek’s ‘the road to Serfdom’ was published the same year. With its defense of ‘laissez-faire’ capitalism and claim that any attempt at regulation would inevitably lead to totalitarianism, it was exactly what the Volker Fund had been looking for. It was only then that the Volker fund started to have a real impact. It arranged for a reprint of Hayek’s book with the University of Chicago and made sure the book ended up in every library in the United States.

The Volker Fund would finance all the leading Austrian Economists and would have a substantial impact on the ‘Chicago School of Economics’, including Milton Friedman.

Von Mises, who throughout his career never held a payed job at any University, was maintained first by David Rockefeller and then for decades received money from the Volker fund and related business men, like Lawrence Fertig.
Von Mises’ biographer, Richard M. Ebeling:

“Many readers may be surprised to learn the extent to which the Graduate Institute and then Mises himself in the years immediately after he came to United States were kept afloat financially through generous grants from the Rockefeller Foundation. In fact, for the first years of Mises’s life in the United States, before his appointment as a visiting professor in the Graduate School of Business Administration at New York University (NYU) in 1945, he was almost totally dependent on annual research grants from the Rockefeller Foundation.”

David Rockefeller himself was quoted as saying: “Finally, in his most surprising statement, he revealed he considers himself a follower of the Austrian school of economics. Friedrich Hayek had been his tutor at the London School of Economics in the 1930s.”

Rothbard too was financed by the Volker Fund:
“Rothbard began his consulting work for the Volker Fund in 1951. This relationship lasted until 1962, when the VF was dissolved. A major part of Rothbard’s work for the VF consisted of reading and evaluating books, journal articles, and other materials. On the basis of written reports by Rothbard and another reader – Rose Wilder Lane – the VF’s directors would decide whether to undertake massive distribution of particular works to public libraries.

Rothbard later called his work with the Volker Fund, “the best job I’ve ever had in my life.”

The Volker Fund also explored a tactic that was to find wider application later: it spawned an enormous number of organizations, loosely organized to suggest mutual independence and a ‘Libertarian Movement’. Among these was the Foundation for Economic Education, which in turn would create the Mont Pelerin Society.

The Mont Pelerin Society
The Mont Pelerin Society was named after the Swiss Alp where the first conference was held. It was founded by Hayek with the financial support of the Volker fund, which payed for the expenses of all American participants. Key co-founders were von Mises, Milton Friedman and Karl Popper.

No less than eight Noble prizes for Economics were to be won by Mont Pelerin members in the decades ahead. Not bad, for a ‘fringe movement, ignored by the Mainstream’.

The Mont Pelerin, in turn, oversaw the creation of many influential institutions. One of them was the Institute of Economic Affairs in London, 1955. This organization reinvented the Conservative Party, of which Margeret Thatcher was to say: “You created the atmosphere which made our victory possible… May I say how thankful we are to those who joined your great endeavor. They were the few, but they were right, and they saved Britain.”

The Heritage Foundation was also a result of the Mont Pelerin Society, as were the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research and the Atlas Economic Research Foundation, which in turn birthed a plethora of think tanks, including the Fraser Institute.

The amount of money that was invested in all this was tremendous:
“John Blundell, the head of the IEA, in a speech to the Heritage Foundation, and Atlas in 1990, would identify a rare failure in the Society’s efforts. Shaking his head at the abortive attempt to subsidize academic “Chairs of Free Enterprise” in dozens of countries throughout the world, Blundell complained about wasting, “hundreds of millions, perhaps one billion dollars”. This was just one initiative among many.”

The Koch Family.

The Volker fund was disbanded in 1962. It still had $7 million in assets, which it donated to the Hoover society.

But in the mean time another very wealthy Jewish family, the Koch family (see ‘the Zionist Billionaires that control Politics‘), had taken over the organization of Libertarianism and Austrian Economics.

Fred Koch founded the John Birch Society in 1958. Ed Griffin was educated there. He later wrote a famous book, “the Creature of Jekyll Island”. This was a rehash of Eustace Mullins’ brilliant ‘Secrets of the Federal Reserve’, with one exception: it left out all Mullins’ analysis of the Gold Standard as a Banker operation and how Britain’s demand for taxes payed in Gold were the cause of the war of Independence. Instead it called for the reinstatement of a Gold Standard. This is a key part of the story how Austrian Economics managed to take over the ‘Truth Movement’.

Koch’s son Charles Koch founded the CATO Institute, together with Murray Rothbard. The CATO Institute remains to this day a leading Libertarian outlet.

Libertarianism as a Jewish Movement
Most Leading Libertarians are or were Jewish. Von Mises, Rothbard, Ayn Rand, Irwin (and Peter) Schiff. According to Peter Schiff, his grandfather Jacob Schiff is not the same as the infamous financier.


Rothbard himself had interesting views about race and inequality in the free market: “Rothbard was proud to be a ‘racialist’ because racialism exposed the true source of inequality in a free market, namely genetics. A belief in biological racial inequality was, for Rothbard, part of the libertarian project, because racial inequality was simply how markets reflected nature. Moreover, this was no sudden conversion: Rothbard promoted the same view, as early as 1973, here.”

So Jewish Supremacism can be retraced directly to the Austrian Economics’ main proponent himself.


Conclusion
Libertarianism and Austrian Economics are not the products of maverick free thinkers. On the contrary, all leading proponents of the movement were highly connected individuals. In the early years the Volker Fund made available vast sums of money, because Austrian Economics was considered the right answer to communism, to maintain the dialectic the Money Power needs (also see: ‘Banker explained ‘Occupy America’ Scam‘).

Far from a fringe movement, Mont Pelerin Alumni collected no less than eight Noble Prizes. Alan Greenspan testified of its pervasive influence by saying in 2000:
“the Austrian School have reached far into the future from when most of them practiced and have had a profound and, in my judgment, probably an irreversible effect on how most mainstream economists think in this country.”


In this day and age when communism is no longer considered a threat, but with Marxism/Liberalism/Political Correctness a strong force in Western nations, Libertarianism has found a new lease of life as a way co-opting the resistance in the Alternative Media.

The dialectic continues unabated.

special thanks: Meme Hunter

Related:

Main source of this article by Anonymous: The not so spontaneous birth of the Libertarian Movement
Ron Paul’s Masonic Jewish Economics
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Neoliberalism Dismantles Services to Make Elites Even Richer


Neoliberalism demands minimal taxes, the dismantling of public services and social security and union busting to make the elite even richer, while leaving everyone else to sink or swim.

By George Monbiot / Comment Is Free

August 28, 2007


For the first time the UK's consumer debt exceeds the total of its gross national product: a new report shows that we owe £1.35 trillion. Inspectors in the United States have discovered that 77,000 road bridges are in the same perilous state as the one which collapsed into the Mississippi. Two years after Hurricane Katrina struck, 120,000 people from New Orleans are still living in trailer homes and temporary lodgings. As runaway climate change approaches, governments refuse to take the necessary action. Booming inequality threatens to create the most divided societies the world has seen since before the first world war. Now a financial crisis caused by unregulated lending could turf hundreds of thousands out of their homes and trigger a cascade of economic troubles.

These problems appear unrelated, but they all have something in common. They arise in large part from a meeting that took place 60 years ago in a Swiss spa resort. It laid the foundations for a philosophy of government that is responsible for many, perhaps most, of our contemporary crises.

When the Mont Pelerin Society first met, in 1947, its political project did not have a name. But it knew where it was going. The society's founder, Friedrich von Hayek, remarked that the battle for ideas would take at least a generation to win, but he knew that his intellectual army would attract powerful backers. Its philosophy, which later came to be known as neoliberalism, accorded with the interests of the ultra-rich, so the ultra-rich would pay for it.

Neoliberalism claims that we are best served by maximum market freedom and minimum intervention by the state. The role of government should be confined to creating and defending markets, protecting private property and defending the realm.
All other functions are better discharged by private enterprise, which will be prompted by the profit motive to supply essential services. By this means, enterprise is liberated, rational decisions are made and citizens are freed from the dehumanizing hand of the state.

This, at any rate, is the theory. But as David Harvey proposes in his book A Brief History of Neoliberalism, wherever the neoliberal program has been implemented, it has caused a massive shift of wealth not just to the top 1%, but to the top tenth of the top 1%. In the US, for instance, the upper 0.1% has already regained the position it held at the beginning of the 1920s. The conditions that neoliberalism demands in order to free human beings from the slavery of the state - minimal taxes, the dismantling of public services and social security, deregulation, the breaking of the unions - just happen to be the conditions required to make the elite even richer, while leaving everyone else to sink or swim. In practice the philosophy developed at Mont Pelerin is little but an elaborate disguise for a wealth grab.

So the question is this: given that the crises I have listed are predictable effects of the dismantling of public services and the deregulation of business and financial markets, given that it damages the interests of nearly everyone, how has neoliberalism come to dominate public life?

Richard Nixon was once forced to concede that "we are all Keynesians now." Even the Republicans supported the interventionist doctrines of John Maynard Keynes. But we are all neoliberals now. Margaret Thatcher kept telling us that "there is no alternative," and by implementing her programs Clinton, Blair, Brown and the other leaders of what were once progressive parties appear to prove her right.

The first great advantage the neoliberals possessed was an unceasing fountain of money. US oligarchs and their foundations - Coors, Olin, Scaife, Pew and others - have poured hundreds of millions into setting up thinktanks, founding business schools and transforming university economics departments into bastions of almost totalitarian neoliberal thinking. The Heritage Foundation, the Hoover Institute, the American Enterprise Institute and many others in the US, the Institute of Economic Affairs, the Centre for Policy Studies and the Adam Smith Institute in the UK, were all established to promote this project. Their purpose was to develop the ideas and the language which would mask the real intent of the program -- the restoration of the power of the elite -- and package it as a proposal for the betterment of humankind.

Their project was assisted by ideas which arose in a very different quarter. The revolutionary movements of 1968 also sought greater individual liberties, and many of the soixante-huitards saw the state as their oppressor. As Harvey shows, the neoliberals coopted their language and ideas. Some of the anarchists I know still voice notions almost identical to those of the neoliberals: the intent is different, but the consequences very similar.

Hayek's disciples were also able to make use of economic crises. An early experiment took place in New York City, which was hit by budgetary disaster in 1975. Its bankers demanded that the city follow their prescriptions - huge cuts in public services, smashing of the unions, public subsidies for business. In the UK, stagflation, strikes and budgetary breakdown allowed Thatcher, whose ideas were framed by her neoliberal adviser Keith Joseph, to come to the rescue. Her program worked, but created a new set of crises.

If these opportunities were insufficient, the neoliberals and their backers would use bribery or force. In the US, the Democrats were neutered by new laws on campaign finance. To compete successfully for funding with the Republicans, they would have to give big business what it wanted. The first neoliberal program of all was implemented in Chile following Pinochet's coup, with the backing of the US government and economists taught by Milton Friedman, one of the founding members of the Mont Pelerin Society. Drumming up support for the project was easy: if you disagreed, you got shot. The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank used their power over developing nations to demand the same policies.

But the most powerful promoter of this program was the media. Most of it is owned by multimillionaires who use it to project the ideas that support their interests. Those ideas which threaten their interests are either ignored or ridiculed. It is through the newspapers and TV channels that the socially destructive notions of a small group of extremists have come to look like common sense. The corporations' tame thinkers sell the project by reframing our political language (for an account of how this happens, see George Lakoff's book, Don't Think of an Elephant!). Nowadays I hear even my progressive friends using terms like wealth creators, tax relief, big government, consumer democracy, red tape, compensation culture, job seekers and benefit cheats. These terms, all invented or promoted by neoliberals, have become so commonplace that they now seem almost neutral.

Neoliberalism, if unchecked, will catalyze crisis after crisis, all of which can be solved only by greater intervention on the part of the state. In confronting it, we must recognize that we will never be able to mobilize the resources its exponents have been given. But as the disasters they have caused unfold, the public will need ever less persuading that it has been misled.
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Moreover how can Fabian socialism be "subverting" democracy, when true democracy has never even existed.

The same usual scapegoating and fear mongering from the extreme right.

Democracy means rule by people.

The creation of the NHS in Britain, again a result of the Fabians is probably one of the most DEMOCRATIC things to actually ever happen in the UK.

Yet the Fabians are "subverting" democracy ?

No its the Neoliberals, the Thatcherites, who Nigel Farage of UKIP idolizes who are attempting to destroy systems like the NHS with their austerity. These people are the real SUBVERTERS OF DEMOCRACY. Whatever tiny bit of it we have.
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What I don't understand is this. There are all these different factions in the world that want complete and total control of the world but once they get it what are they going to do with it? Are they just going to rule? Surely they'd get bored after a while.

It just seems like such a weird goal to me. All that power but nothing to do. Eventually killing people and creating wars will get boring.
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The Fabian Society has always been the home of comfortably off middle-class Labour Party supporters.
It used to be quite a wealthy society, not sure about now as they are a lot smaller in numbers than they were.
You can see a membership list on Wikki, it is hundreds not thousands.
When the Fabians were a rich society they put a lot of money inro Labour Movement Education.
I went to Ruskin College Oxford ( a Labour movement College) and our halls of residence had been paid for by the Fabian Society. At Headingron Campus there was 'Sid' and 'Beattie' halls named after Sid and Beattie Webb the famous Fabian couple.
Can deffo say with knowledge and conviction that every Ruskin student in my years held the Fabians in utter contempt as middle-class 'roaders'.
It used to be a big thing in the union movement slagging off Fabians. You got working class 'brownie points' for doing so.
I don't think Fabianism is at all influential within socialism -outside of London and the Westminster bubble' these days.
The suggestion that Fabianism somehow started the'New Age' movement is beyond risible and that wolf in sheep clothing badge above isn't the Fabian Society logo. More here on the Fabian Society.. http://www.fabians.org.uk/about/
The wolf in sheep's clothing logo is attributed to Fabian George B Shaw. Click this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Window

Appropriately, the influential Fabian LEONARD WOOLF has a surname that contains WOOL and WOLF. Freemasons sometimes wear a woollen apron. Woolf wrote "International Government" (1916) which influenced the League of Nations; was a Cambridge 'Apostle' as was fellow Jew Victor Rothschild. Woolf co-founded the socialist society "The 1917 Club", whose members included Fabian Aldous Huxley (helped spawn the New Age movement and a friend of Victor Rothschild) and the pre-Fascist OSWALD MOSLEY (also a Fabian and Labour Party member).

I didn't say that the Fabians started the New Age movement, but contributed to its origins by its links to the SPR. Also...

Mosley's wife Diana socialised with Victor Rothschild's wife Barbara. Mosley met Fabian ANNIE BESANT in India (after Mosley became an in-law of the Viceroy of India) and subscribed to her Theosophy Society, of which Besant was President. Theosophy helped influence the New Age movement as did the religions of the Far East (Buddhism, Taoism, etc).

Was Mosley a fake fascist working with Victor Rothschild to oust and control the real fascists?

Fabian OLIVER LODGE, a pioneering physicist in radio waves, was a spiritualist; President of the above mentioned SPR; friend of fellow spiritualist ARTHUR CONAN DOYLE who created Sherlock Holmes.

Mosley's Personal Private Secretary was the socialist JOHN STRACHEY, who knew left-winger Victor Rothschild and was a mentor to him. Strachey's ancestors included numerous high-ranking members of the Indian government under British rule. Strachey co-founded the left-wing LEFT BOOK CLUB with the Jewish Zionist publisher VICTOR GOLLANCZ, a governor of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Gollancz and Labour Party leader Harold Wilson started the WAR ON WANT movement that continues to this day to end poverty (so it claims).

Victor Rothschild, as head of research at Shell Uk, met fellow MI5 operative and Shell worker JAMES LOVELOCK, creator of the GAIA hypothesis that Victor supported in its early years. Lovelock wants us to use our intuition (new age) and a merger of man and machine (trans-humanism). Victor was a scientist specialising in the biophysics of sperm.

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Fair comment Leigh and I deffo agree with you that a lot of what passes for 'New Age' today is simply repackaged Theosophy.
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I reject this entire premise
No it was the wealthy el-ite who funded fabianism not to 'control the opposition' but to move society slowly towards their planned goal: new world order. Things like the 'new deal' are simply ways to rebalance the system temporarily to prevent the apple cart tipping over all together. They are simply tweaks to the system as the plan rolls forward.

It had to follow steps eg create a central bank, capture the media, capture government, deregulate the financial sector, create global crisis to build global infrastructure eg the UN, IMF, world bank, get everyone on fiat currencies, crash the economy globally to force everyone to a new system

The plan for a new world order has been a long time in the making. The timing of it is crucial and that is the whole point about fabian socialism: it is about moving things slowly towards the NWO or what David Icke calls the 'totalitarian tiptoe' so that people do not wake upto what is going on until it is too late

Then when the time is right and the el-ite own and control everything and the people are weak and dumbed down the el-ite make the full transition to a state-socialist, prison society

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So please tell me how the Fabians are enslaving workers, when they implemented many improvements in British Society.
no you are not taking historical context into account. So these reforms were like the new deal in that they were a way to appease the increasingly restless public during difficult tims where there was a high chance of social unrest

So after world war 2 many men returned as trained soldiers. The new world order el-ite were scared of them as they had the ability to overthrow the government so they gave them things like a house building scheme called 'homes for heros' and they gave them the NHS. Another reason they created the NHS was because they were so shocked at the poor health of the recruits in the war that to secure future soldiers capable of fighting a war they realised they needed to improve public health. They created the forestry commission to ensure a supply of wood for war for building but also for the creation of gunpower

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Again this is a lukewarm concession in order to satisfy and pacify the masses so that they will not seek violent revolution. Keep them happy enough not to riot.
This is what i'm saying...fabianism is about sleep walking a restless public through gradual reforms towards the new world order state-socialist, technocratic prison

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NOt objective source what so ever.
i don't consider you an objective source

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Can you find any authors who go on about immigration, socialism, cultural Marxism, who aren't some kind of white supremacists ? I doubt it.
Nonsense...there is a difference between state-socialism which is about empowering the state and libertarian-socialism which is about empowering the workers. david rockefeller and his ilk are interested in state-socialism. It was state-socialism that orwell was warning us about in his book '1984'

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David Rockefeller runs the Chicago School of Economics, which birthed the Austrian School of Economics (Libertarianism) Gave us guys like Milton Friedman, Paul Volker, Freidrich Von Hayek, Murray Rothbard. These were all Zionist Jews who promoted Libertarianism in the US as an arm of the oligarchs to battle against the small gains the workers made through government policies like FDR's new deal.

David Rockefeller described himself as a Libertarian. The whole network of right wing think tanks, which promote this ideology financed by Rockefellers and the Kochs has the sole intention of demonizing progressive economic policies and roling back the social state.

The Mont Pellerin society birthed the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Hoover Institute, Council for National Policy, John Birch Society, Tea Party, Patriot Movement, etc.

All these think tanks and organizations with far more money behind them than any so called "socialist" organizations ARE ACTUALLY FORMULATING POLICY TODAY, UNLIKE THE FABIAN SOCIALISTS.
David rockefeller is a state-socialist who is using monopoly capitalism to destroy his opposition. Step one is to create monopoly capitalism, step two is to transition society to a state-socialist technocratic police state. The world government will not be libertarian as that would allow competition to the cabal....it will be a police state run by the cabal

David rockefeller wants to destroy workers rights...the population has grown weak again since the second world war so the NWO globalists are gaining in confidence and can begin peeling back the concessions they gave them after the war. They are going to weaken the workers, remove their rights and destroy the economy so that corrupt governments sell off state assets dirt cheap to the NWO el-ite in firesales so that they own the earth the workers stand on. Once they own everything and have built a powerful, surveillance police state and have removed all worker rights then they will have a de facto state-socialist state and need only enshrine it in law

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They aren't Fabian Socialist policies that's for sure, but they are perfectly in line with the stated economic goals off the rightwing "neoliberal" economic thinktanks and organizations.
The goal of the el-ite is to move all wealth into their hands YES. This is so that they can own everything.Whislt they do that though they must prevent the workers from rebelling and that has involved using reforms to give workers certain comforts. This was also enabled through cheap credit from the banks. However that stage is over...now its no more mr nice guy! Now they are peeling back the reforms, privatising everything, buying everything up, stealing the wealth of the workers and preparing the police state

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THEIR STATED GOAL IS TO DESTROY SOCIALISM.
Their goal is to prevent the workers owning and controlling the means of production (which is true socialism ie libertarian-socialism). They want to own everything, but they want a powerful police state to protect them, so their end goal is state-socialism (fake socialism), where they control the state

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Tell me where state socialism is supported today
The states have all bailed out the banks....that is not capitalism. The state is growing by the day and things are getting worse for the workers. We are seeing more repressive laws being passed, we are seeing wealth funnelling upto the 1%, we are seeing the police become more militarised and we are seeing a 'command and control' economy where the government intervenes to protect the interests of the 1%. How can you not see all this?

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The Fabian connection simply means the elites understood that socialism would eventually become popular by the masses and sought to control such eventual popularism and limit its influence, which is why Western Europe only employed small amounts of socialist policies in its economic system.
No fabian socialism is about preparing the ground for the new world order state-socialist, technocratic prison, world government
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What I don't understand is this. There are all these different factions in the world that want complete and total control of the world but once they get it what are they going to do with it? Are they just going to rule? Surely they'd get bored after a while.

It just seems like such a weird goal to me. All that power but nothing to do. Eventually killing people and creating wars will get boring.
It's part of a centuries old dream. Plato wrote about his perfect world in his work 'the republic'. In it he envisioned a world where society was run by a council of 'philosopher kings'. The illuminati cabal see themselves as the philosopher kings and are seeking to centralise their power until they control the entire globe under a police state

When asking 'why' they do it, you can't apply your own rational to all other people because not all people are like you. Psychopaths have a 'will to power'.

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.''― David Rockefeller
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