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Old 27-08-2018, 07:08 PM   #1
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Default Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

I see more than one Jesus speaking through the bible. The good Jesus would likely condemn while the less moral and good Jesus that most follow might not. A number of his policies have been found wanting, --- in moral terms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfGRN4HVrQ

Dogma says that Jesus ascended to heaven and his rightful place as judge of the universe at Yahweh’s right hand. The pure hand says tradition.

Would Jesus dethrone Yahweh for the insane genocidal example he shows for a god, or would Jesus somehow justify what Yahweh, and himself to Trinitarians, did?

Would Jesus say that genocide was good?

Heaven forbid.

Condemn or Condone?

I say Jesus would condemn Yahweh.

What say you my moral friends?

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Old 27-08-2018, 07:35 PM   #2
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I say that Jesus is the son and will abide by the fathers will.

I brought not peace but the sword.

The 'image' of a salvation' is a nice thought....but only confirms the lack within most.

You wish to be saved....then save your self.

Although that is simplistic within it's own nature....

Save your self....selfish fuck!

I didn't bring the sword.......I brought the end of time.

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He's not God, he's a very naughty boy.

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Honour your mother and your father....

Even when daddy is a jealous sadistic psychopath.....
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Honour your mother and your father....

Even when daddy is a jealous sadistic psychopath.....
Yes.

Whatever about Yahweh, Jesus himself as portrayed in the bible is no moral heavyweight either.

For example, when you turn the other cheek all you achieve is to allow the perpetrator free reign to re-offend, possibly with someone else.

You could have perhaps prevented this by confronting/stopping the perpetrator.
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Yes.

Whatever about Yahweh, Jesus himself as portrayed in the bible is no moral heavyweight either.

For example, when you turn the other cheek all you achieve is to allow the perpetrator free reign to re-offend, possibly with someone else.

You could have perhaps prevented this by confronting/stopping the perpetrator.
I think (and I'll admit I'm basing this on the musical, godspell.....) but turning the other cheek only applies to personal slights. When someone insults you.

Stealing and murder is very much still frowned upon....
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Did Yahweh actually come to earth and kill people? no, what you have is people using religion and the 'authority' of 'God' to justify killing people because they might otherwise not want to do it. Anyway, plenty of people kill in the name of Jesus, so whats that difference?
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I think (and I'll admit I'm basing this on the musical, godspell.....) but turning the other cheek only applies to personal slights. When someone insults you.

Stealing and murder is very much still frowned upon....
It's still an immoral teaching and the principal remains the same whether it's murder or a personal slight or insult.
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Did Yahweh actually come to earth and kill people? no, what you have is people using religion and the 'authority' of 'God' to justify killing people because they might otherwise not want to do it. Anyway, plenty of people kill in the name of Jesus, so whats that difference?
Yahweh directly sent angels to kill people.... it's in the bible.. Yahweh likes a good slaughter.
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Even when daddy is a jealous sadistic psychopath.....
and mother is a narcissist?
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Yahweh directly sent angels to kill people.... it's in the bible.. Yahweh likes a good slaughter.
god is indifferent.
Moral is something men have created to control the masses.
When there is no man made law....you watch what happens. It doesn't take much imagination or watch Book of Eli.

Life is not about living pure. How well you do to survive in the game. You need knowledge, skills to come out on top.

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Yahweh directly sent angels to kill people.... it's in the bible.. Yahweh likes a good slaughter.
More often than not, he 'commands' men to do it via a prohpet.
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I say that Jesus is the son and will abide by the fathers will.

I brought not peace but the sword.

The 'image' of a salvation' is a nice thought....but only confirms the lack within most.

You wish to be saved....then save your self.

Although that is simplistic within it's own nature....

Save your self....selfish fuck!

I didn't bring the sword.......I brought the end of time.

I cannot see a Christ minded person going by the will of a genocidal God, but thanks for showing Jesus as putting his tribal affiliations ahead of his moral sense.

That says quite a bit about you and likely what you have done.

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He's not God, he's a very naughty boy.

I agree.

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Honour your mother and your father....

Even when daddy is a jealous sadistic psychopath.....
Many think that that is what Jesus would do, which shows how little they know of a moral mind.

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Did Yahweh actually come to earth and kill people? no, what you have is people using religion and the 'authority' of 'God' to justify killing people because they might otherwise not want to do it. Anyway, plenty of people kill in the name of Jesus, so whats that difference?
I see it all as myths and that is why I open with moral questions.

A believer does not see it as myths and I want to know why they would call a vile demiurge a good God when he is obviously evil.

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Yahweh is the big bang - so be sure to take a condom with you(health and safety and all that)
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Good or bad is only one viewpoint.
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Yahweh is the big bang - so be sure to take a condom with you(health and safety and all that)
I only do the purest of women.

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