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Old 01-04-2010, 02:57 AM   #961
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Its well worth the time and effort dude. All the best
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Old 01-04-2010, 04:38 AM   #962
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Its well worth the time and effort dude. All the best
i love this thread, i read through the whole thing a few weeks ago, and it definitely resonated with me, i have visited roage.com as well, now i check in just every few days, and ask myself why? i at times seem to be avoiding it, i think i need some time to absorb the information, i also believe it's fear that may be keeping me away, because there can't be any other reason, it's the best info imo on here.
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Old 02-04-2010, 12:17 AM   #963
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i love this thread, i read through the whole thing a few weeks ago, and it definitely resonated with me, i have visited roage.com as well, now i check in just every few days, and ask myself why? i at times seem to be avoiding it, i think i need some time to absorb the information, i also believe it's fear that may be keeping me away, because there can't be any other reason, it's the best info imo on here.
Some amazing info here and on the site and forum. Resistance can be quite the obstacle. Watch the movie "Revolver" by Guy Ritchie and then check out this this thread for relevant clips from the movie: Who is the Real Enemy?(Clicky)

The above movie and clips are a necessary part of the process and should help rid you of at least enough fear to move onward if that choice is taken. Make sure and watch the full movie first if possible.

Hope this helps
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“What seems to Be, Is, To those to whom It seems to Be, and is productive of the most dreadful Consequences to those to whom it seems to be, even of Torments, Despair, Eternal Death.” - William Blake (“Jerusalem,” Plate 36)

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Old 03-04-2010, 12:37 AM   #964
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i love this thread, i read through the whole thing a few weeks ago, and it definitely resonated with me, i have visited roage.com as well, now i check in just every few days, and ask myself why? i at times seem to be avoiding it, i think i need some time to absorb the information, i also believe it's fear that may be keeping me away, because there can't be any other reason, it's the best info imo on here.
Oh it might not be fear keeping you away. It may just be that your true inner self knows when your observer is ready for the information. You aren't ready yet, so there is no need to push.

when it happens correctly, it appears that mountains are being moved, so to speak, apart from your own effort, yet plainly you are involved. That's when you have learned to get out of your own way

That's probably the most difficult plateau to reach, since the slippery Ego will throw all sorts of red herrings your way, which all almost resonate with you. The red herrings feel good, but not quite right.

Nothing to fear though, it's all part of the game we're playing.
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:04 PM   #965
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Oh it might not be fear keeping you away. It may just be that your true inner self knows when your observer is ready for the information. You aren't ready yet, so there is no need to push.

when it happens correctly, it appears that mountains are being moved, so to speak, apart from your own effort, yet plainly you are involved. That's when you have learned to get out of your own way

That's probably the most difficult plateau to reach, since the slippery Ego will throw all sorts of red herrings your way, which all almost resonate with you. The red herrings feel good, but not quite right.

Nothing to fear though, it's all part of the game we're playing.
Excellent points worth closer inspection. Yet, if the information has been seen as fitting to be presented at this time, wouldn't this be by virtue of the Self acting through the ego? And in this instance wouldn't the resistance(or fear) itself be the ego attempting self preservation through the observer until its sure of the observers commitment and choice to begin the process?

All food for non-thought...
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:14 AM   #966
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Oh it might not be fear keeping you away. It may just be that your true inner self knows when your observer is ready for the information. You aren't ready yet, so there is no need to push.

when it happens correctly, it appears that mountains are being moved, so to speak, apart from your own effort, yet plainly you are involved. That's when you have learned to get out of your own way

That's probably the most difficult plateau to reach, since the slippery Ego will throw all sorts of red herrings your way, which all almost resonate with you. The red herrings feel good, but not quite right.

Nothing to fear though, it's all part of the game we're playing.
i've been on this path seems my whole life. i realized a while back that i'm a right brainer, i never valued those things that other people value soo much. never been good at playing those games that people played.

i've also feel like i lived maybe at least 3 different lives in this onw alone. even though i'm, slow to change. i'm like a child in that i love to learn new things. i've always wonder why adults feel like they have to stop learning.
i have 2 girls 21 and 23 and a 12 month old son. (nothing planned. typical right brainer) and because i'm a female,nothing against you guys, i've learned to be patient unlike swift 44, although i do admire his courage. ( i miss him btw) i'm happy just patiently waiting most of the time. and being the best person i can be til the i'm worhty
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:38 AM   #967
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i've learned to be patient unlike swift 44, although i do admire his courage. ( i miss him btw)

Not sure about here, but Swift is still on the roage forum

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Old 11-04-2010, 09:11 PM   #968
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[...] i'm happy just patiently waiting most of the time. and being the best person i can be til the i'm worhty
Ah yes, the benefits of growing up in America... pandemic religious guilt.

You are already worthy. Thinking you are not will definitely hold you up though.. Ø will never give us more than we can believe we are ready for.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:54 PM   #969
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well on top of that i was raised catholic. talk about guilt

as well as the only girl with 4 brothers; always trying to prove my worth. your right, you know now that i think about it ive always felt unworthy. and im my case it's really not just religion. there's alot of other reasons i feel this way.
good point though.

maybe that is what is holding me up. ooh you got me thinking.

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Old 11-04-2010, 11:11 PM   #970
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well on top of that i was raised catholic. talk about guilt

as well as the only girl with 4 brothers; always trying to prove my worth. your right, you know now that i think about it ive always felt unworthy. and im my case it's really not just religion. there's alot of other reasons i feel this way.
good point though.

maybe that is what is holding me up. ooh you got me thinking.
Catholic. Uh huh! Ditto here. I feel ya, sister!

When i refer to religious guilt, I mean to include the complex of contributing factors and behaviors that are enabled by the religious atmosphere within a particular religious culture.

It's ironic that both catholics and Jews have similar guilt issues. But when you look at the role of the father, and the role of the mother (traditionally) and that both are encouraged to have large families, too many things line up to think that it's all a coincidence.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:41 PM   #971
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Catholic. Uh huh! Ditto here. I feel ya, sister!

When i refer to religious guilt, I mean to include the complex of contributing factors and behaviors that are enabled by the religious atmosphere within a particular religious culture.

It's ironic that both catholics and Jews have similar guilt issues. But when you look at the role of the father, and the role of the mother (traditionally) and that both are encouraged to have large families, too many things line up to think that it's all a coincidence.
your so right . and i'm first generational puerto rican to. so you can imagine the coulture shock, especially my mother went through. who was just a little country pumpkin raised up very traditional.

i remember she used to let the boys listen to richard pryor had no idea what he was talking about. that's how she learned most of her english cuss words. me too.for that matter
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[QUOTE=nectars;1058794320]Not sure about here, but Swift is still on the roage forum

Roage Forum(clicky)
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i've been lurking there too but just sporadically, so i may have missed him.
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:03 AM   #973
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Catholic. Uh huh! Ditto here. I feel ya, sister!

When i refer to religious guilt, I mean to include the complex of contributing factors and behaviors that are enabled by the religious atmosphere within a particular religious culture.

It's ironic that both catholics and Jews have similar guilt issues. But when you look at the role of the father, and the role of the mother (traditionally) and that both are encouraged to have large families, too many things line up to think that it's all a coincidence.


too may things line up to think that it's all coincidence.

that's an interesting comment, you've given me couple things to think about
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This bump is merely for the opportunity for another to see in ways they could not before and to say that I have found a consistency in my experience and that consistency is that:

“Your results may vary...”

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Old 27-06-2010, 10:04 PM   #975
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this bump is merely for the opportunity for another to see in ways they could not before and to say that i have found a consistency in my experience and that consistency is that:

“your results may vary...”

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all the op links are dead.
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all the op links are dead.
http://www.roage.com/default.aspx?As...ookieSupport=1

This should get to where you need to go. Enjoy.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:52 PM   #979
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thanks.

i would offer a suggestion to roage to edit the original post with the new link.
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thanks.

i would offer a suggestion to roage to edit the original post with the new link.
Good suggestion, however, I am not permitted to edit the original post and the site was migrated from ASP to ASP.net and I was not pleased.

If there was an Icke god that could help I would be most grateful.

It has been evolving, here is the helper page with many pertinents.

Cheers,
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http://www.roage.com/default.aspx?PageID=165

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