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Old 22-01-2009, 03:51 PM   #41
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sorry to take away from the thread title but the word 'om' denotes the source, or the epicentre of all that lives and is meant to harmonise all chakras. when you practice yoga (specifically pranayama or deep breathing exercises) and chant this word from within you, everyday- you will feel a vibration like effect, or a gentle, calming buzz between your eyebrows, or the spot where your third eye is supposed to be.

the chanting of the word om has unfortunately been misused in the name of religion- namely hinduism, to signify deities and has also been used in religiois hymns. but when you do the deep breathing exercises as stated above, you will realise such meditation is not meant to tap the power of any one chakra, but all of them.

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Old 22-01-2009, 03:59 PM   #42
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Hi Pink freud, this article may show you what I mean, I didnt read it through, but if I remember it was Bronte who mentioned it

http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/wh...children-gone/


Just read it, no it doesnt, but its along the same lines as you have mentioned

I dont think you have taken the thread off track, it does kinda fit here
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Old 22-01-2009, 04:11 PM   #43
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Hi Pink freud, this article may show you what I mean, I didnt read it through, but if I remember it was Bronte who mentioned it

http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/wh...children-gone/

oh yeah i'm reading it now.. it's about maharishi mahesh yogi. he was a sly one, knew how to attract the crowds and give them false hope.. that's what i mean by saying such holistic living can be misused. no wonder the beatles came to their senses later and left that shit behind

these bits from the write up especially caught my eye:

But when the TM-Siddhis started, things got even more religious. We were instructed to read prayers to the gods after every meditation and to listen to audiotapes of chants to Hindu deities as we fell asleep at night. Maharishi reassured us: the gods are not actual personal entities but “impulses of creative intelligence” that exist within ourselves. The fact that Hinduism anthropomorphizes deities just signals immature consciousness, he said, and that, of course, was something the movement was far too sophisticated to be guilty of...


The changes in the movement were so gradual that I hardly blinked an eye the day I got my own advanced technique, which consisted of adding the Sanskrit word “namah” to my original mantra. I didn’t quite understand, as I was told the mantras were meaningless sounds that have a beneficial effect on the nervous system. I didn’t know any translation for my mantra “Eima,” but I did know, from the puja, what “namah” meant in English. It means, “I bow down.” Who was I bowing down to, I wondered? Well, it must be a god. “Eima” must be a name for her, and she must be my escort on the path to higher consciousness. Another hidden teaching, obvious only to an advanced spiritual aspirant. I felt privileged and superior to be let in on the secret.

One insider, a friend of mine who was exceptionally devoted to Maharishi and who worked with TM psychologists as their research assistant, became shaken and left the movement when she found the scientists she worked with doctoring test results to make them better conform to Maharishi’s desired outcomes.






shame.


even osho was notorious for this. 'om' in itself is literally infinite consciousness; but those chants slowly hypnotise people into 'bowing down' to a make believe god, subconsciously...

thanks for that link B good reading, quiteeeee long but i'll finish it before hitting the sack

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Old 22-01-2009, 04:16 PM   #44
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Great! Thanks for clearing that up.

You have also cleared up something else....the amount of times Ive noticed people putting namaste at the end of their post. It really bugs me. I googled it and it means, "I bow down" as Bronte says, "bow down to what? I think the "ste" means 'to you' but all the same....
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ok just read that article.. got distracted for a while but hey

bronte is pretty objective, i understand that what she's saying is meditation per se is not harmful- but doing it in the name of religion- chanting powerful mantras et al and submitting your own power to another literally sucks the life out of you and makes you a robot. that's what's happened to all of us.

what i did notice though, is that there's one stanza where she's against ayurveda. i'm guessing the 'treatment' for her friend at TM was pure bs, otherwise i'm sure it would've worked; if it didn't, maharishi is responsible for a preventable death that COULD have been stopped by modern meds.

like one poster very aptly said: "TM simply went to far , and went from an enlightened simple practice to a servant of something darker. Moderation, in all things, is the path of the enlightened, at least as far as I am concerned."

which i think is the case for all taking the spiritual path; if one extreme is non-belief, the other is religious brainwashing. the latter was what maharishi did- very covertly. this form of 'spirituality' is the worst in my eyes- because you don't even realise when you've crossed the line between spirituality and religion.

i think this article is for keeps. already done bookmarked it.



oh and about namaste... i always believed it's a common greeting meant to signify respect (that's where bow to you would come in) but now that you mentioned it, i wouldn't be surprised if it has a deeper meaning.

also notice how the chinese bow to each other upon meeting; also, sumo wrestlers bowing to each other before a match.
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Old 22-01-2009, 07:00 PM   #46
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there seems to be so many twists and turns on this path, traps around every corner.

but hey, its fun sometimes......
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Well I experimented last night and realized a couple more things. First of all I felt really good afterwords (after humming). I felt really relaxed. Second of all it felt like my stomach area was beating-like it had it's own heart.

And you know where the pineal gland is supposed to be? That is the area I am feeling the vibrations come from. That's why I brought up this post in the first place. Because I thought my pineal gland might have had something to do with it.

I will keep practicing and see what happens.

Oh yes-and I did work on my breathing as well.
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Old 22-01-2009, 08:52 PM   #48
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great post! But i guess the big picture question is, why do the elite need us? They can wipe us off easily, and have the planet for themselves. They obviously need us, but why when they are trying to destroy our soul. If its purely for work, then why dont they clone a bunch beings that obey and listen exacly as they are told?
they need us for polarization. without us their progress in the negative path would be either much slower (enslaving each other) or non existent. similarly for positive path this world offers the possibility of huge leap since wars, crime, manipulation, etc. provides possibilities to help others.
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Well I experimented last night and realized a couple more things. First of all I felt really good afterwords (after humming). I felt really relaxed. Second of all it felt like my stomach area was beating-like it had it's own heart.

And you know where the pineal gland is supposed to be? That is the area I am feeling the vibrations come from. That's why I brought up this post in the first place. Because I thought my pineal gland might have had something to do with it.

I will keep practicing and see what happens.

Oh yes-and I did work on my breathing as well.
hi netta,

i think i know what you are talking about. i have a "natural" tone that i discovered years ago. when i sang or had a melody in mind i realized that i tend to have that pitch as the centre. it is B (or H in German) for me. when i hum on that certain pitch it resonates a lot. one way of finding which pitch you resonate most with is to start from a low pitch (lowest G or Ab you can sing) and go up by semitone: G-Ab-A-Bb-B-C-C#-D-D#-E-F-F#-G. you will feel which pitch you resonate with most. i'm not sure if this has to do with just your vocal chords, or chakras, or aura or what but i think you will see that there is a certain pitch that is more natural to you (and maybe to character or even your spiritual state?)

about the stomach area, that corresponds to the 3rd chakra. you may be opening a chakra that is plugged. i don't know that much about chakras but your humming might be helping regulating your chakras...

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Hey musti,

Yeah that is my natural tone. I went and read up about a blocked third chakra and that doesn't sound like me at all. If anything I would say it's being activated (like you said). What's especially weird is that I have been really attracted to the colors of gold and yellow this year. But right now I really like yellow. That's just interesting since those are the colors associated with the third chakra.

Either way I don't know what it is.

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Great! Thanks for clearing that up.

You have also cleared up something else....the amount of times Ive noticed people putting namaste at the end of their post. It really bugs me. I googled it and it means, "I bow down" as Bronte says, "bow down to what? I think the "ste" means 'to you' but all the same....
beldazar: I believe Namaste means: The Light in Me honours the Light in You! It is done as an acknowledgment of the light within each of us.
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Back on track, does anyone know if there is a way to clear the calcification off the pineal gland I don't mean through meditation or visualization.

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Second of all it felt like my stomach area was beating-like it had it's own heart.
could you make sure if it was your stomach or actually the area known as the Solar Plexus?
Because a kind of mild tremble/throbbing is felt by me during my meditation,
and its coming from the Solar plexus area.
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could you make sure if it was your stomach or actually the area known as the Solar Plexus?
Because a kind of mild tremble/throbbing is felt by me during my meditation,
and its coming from the Solar plexus area.
Yes I'm positive it is the solar plexus. I was trying to describe the general area. Actually it would be more accurate to say that the beating comes from above my belly button. The beat (or throbbing as you call it) is very strong. It's almost so strong that it makes me feel weird. It really does feel like a second heart beating.

I don't know what it means. Do you have an idea? Why would that specific chakra be activated so strongly? But I also have those sounds in my head during the humming, the energy waves that I have had going through my body for the past couples of years, among other things.
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But I also have those sounds in my head during the humming, the energy waves that I have had going through my body for the past couples of years, among other things.
I dont know if the humming you mention is the same thing that im aware of.
I discovered 4 or 5 years ago,
a humming sound was resonating in my head, pretty much non-stop.
It was and is, a very high pitch buzz,
kinda like a a lot of tiny bees buzzing,
and its like an ambient sound.
I can focus on it, and be aware of it even right now as i type this.
I think this sound is probably just the sound of blood being rushed thru the tiny veins and arteries? lol, thats what i tell myself anyway, and i put the sound on 'ignore'.
Once you are aware of it, it can get quite annoying as its always there!
And you cant stop it anyway, so i regard it as a curiosity, and dont focus on it.
If i become self-conscious of it, it will become a problem.

Similarly, the mild throbbing that i feel, kinda like a pulse 2 or 3 times rapidly in succession in my solar plexus, i just acknowledge it, but i dont think about it. Or worry about it.
That way, i dont interfere in a process that i dont need to be involved in.
All i do is the meditation, and the way my physical body responds, its best to leave it alone, and let it do its thing.

I know, that if one worries about these phenomena, that worrying actually interferes with its smooth functioning.
Just like i dont need to be aware of my blood circulation, or my digestion,
its just happens on its own, and im happy that it does.
I just eat the food!
I just let it go, my consciousness isint needed in there.

Branches and leaves need the sunlight.
But roots need darkness.
You cant uproot a tree and place the roots in the sunshine and expect them to function.
So, the advice i give myself is,
as long as it feels good, and right, and the effects of the practice are wellbeing and joy, i should continue.

As for the reason that i give myself as to why this is happening?
Well there is something known as the Fibonacci sequence of numbers.
The Fibonacci numbers are 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, and so on.
You just have add the last two to get the next in line.
This sequence occurs in all of nature, and books have been written about it, and its explained beautifully.
A couple of them that i have loved are :
The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life Book - Volume I
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8952063/Th...lo-Melchizedek
and
The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life Book - Volume 2
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8952112/An...dek-Volllume-2

Why have a highlighted the number 13?
Now there is something known as the Schumann Resonance (SR).
It refers to the frequency that the entire Earth’s magnetosphere resonates at.
basically, till the late 80's, this frequency was resonating and measured at 7.83 Hertz.
But, it seems that from the mid nineties this frequency has been gradually rising.
And it seems that researchers have indicated that the frequency will rise all the way till 13 Hertz in 2012.

So thats what i tell myself.
My reasoning (well one of them, i am aware of many other reasons) is that since the Earth itself is raising its vibrations in a very real sense,
the living beings on the surface are going to pick up on the change as well, and align with it, and try to assimilate and adjust to the higher frequencies as they start manifesting.
And so the throbbings are simply 'adjustments' made my my body to cope with them, and its happening on a level that im as yet unconscious of.

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beldazar: I believe Namaste means: The Light in Me honours the Light in You! It is done as an acknowledgment of the light within each of us.
Try googling


there seems several interpretations, most common, 'I bow down'
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there seems several interpretations, most common, 'I bow down'
i can clear that up for you, we say it here all the time.

Its a form of greeting, like hello.
Most indians understand that Namaste means i bow to the divine in you.
Of course, not everyone is consciously meaning that when he says 'Namaste'.
Nevertheless, thats what it means.
Im no linguistics expert, i just live here.
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thanks Vladmir, I would rather not bow down to anyone, not even me, but over here we say 'hello', wonder what THAT really means.....
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... but over here we say 'hello', wonder what THAT really means.....
i know, i was thinking about this just the other day,
what is the hell doing in hello?!
Suddenly it dosent feel like a warm friendly way to greet one another!
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i know, i was thinking about this just the other day,
what is the hell doing in hello?!
Suddenly it dosent feel like a warm friendly way to greet one another!
O-hell-o-dear.....no it doesn't!
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