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Old 21-05-2015, 10:55 PM   #1
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A book recently published 'The Buddha Pill: Can Meditation Change You?' by Dr Miguel
Farias and Catherine Wikholm'
has caught the attention of the MSM recently, an article
in the Independent and another in New Scientist magazine:


Panic, depression and stress: The case against meditation.


There seems to be a genuine concern here, or is meditation under attack from dark and
unseen forces within the media and its Judeo-Christian controllers?


THE INDEPENDENT 21 May 2015



Meditation is touted as a cure for mental instability
but can it actually be bad for you?


If it's so powerful, might meditation also do harm to sensitive souls? Researching a
mass murder, Dr Miguel Farias discovered that, far from bringing inner peace, it can leave
devotees in pieces



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Old 22-05-2015, 12:00 AM   #2
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My gut reaction is that is controller propaganda to scare people away from discovering they are creator beings.
Same old idea akin to needing a priest as a mediator to "god".
Total bullshit.
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Old 22-05-2015, 12:25 AM   #3
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My gut reaction is that is controller propaganda to scare people away from discovering they are creator beings.
Same old idea akin to needing a priest as a mediator to "god".
Total bullshit.
Both Hindu and Buddhist traditions stress the need for devotees to surrender themselves
to a guru as an essential part of their spiritual practice.

Another element at play here is that of mainstream science and the material reductionist
paradigm that has no place for conscious free will. Although many scientists openly
admit to being practicing Christians, Jews, Masons whatever, the idea of a godhead or
spirit is neatly sidestepped and any mention of it in scientific terms would almost certainly
be enough to destroy a career. In this way the Church or the Grand Lodge is still able to
maintian control over their nominaly atheist adherents.



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Old 22-05-2015, 04:54 AM   #4
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Both Hindu and Buddhist traditions stress the need for devotees to surrender themselves
to a guru as an essential part of their spiritual practice.
I used to meditate as a part of a buddhist group. There is a good sense for that. A lot of people who meditate deeply do hallucinate. Some people see things like blue light, and some see ghosts, saints, Jesus, dead relatives, and etc...
You need an instructor who has dealt with this kind of things before to calm you down. People can go insane from meditation. One dude kill someone in vietnum war and has to live with the guilt for the rest of his life. One day he meditate and saw the victim he killed, and he was messed up ever since.

But all of it is noting but hallucination.

With everything being said, it is really obvious to anyone who has half a brain that the world is designed to prevent you from meditating. For me personally, the most damaging thing to my peace of mind is music.

As I have mentioned several times before, a good general rule of thumb is that if you see that the world is designed to go one way, you go the opposite.
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Old 22-05-2015, 07:52 AM   #5
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SERIOUSLY!!!

So it is fine to sit/kneel and pray to a God that you have zero evidence exists BUT to quietly sit, breathe, and contemplate in an inner stillness is dangerous.

REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 22-05-2015, 08:15 AM   #6
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Although I dont believe mediation harms you, I think many people get caught in a spiritual trap of waiting till they get even more spiritual before they lead a nicer, kinder life , that is never going to work as you will never feel you are ready.

Its better to be living a nicer kinder life and the rest follows.

So sometimes I believe meditating can work against you but never is it dangerous.
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Old 22-05-2015, 08:52 AM   #7
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Meditation is very good for your mind in moderation. Overdoing it can lead to right brain imbalance, the same effect that overuse of cannabis causes. It is a vital tool for me to silence and control my mind, but i don't over do it as i have felt the effects mentioned above myself.

The above is nothing more than state propaganda however, the same sort of nonsense about yoga being satanic was spouted by the Vatican recently. Tactics designed to prevent folk from awakening and seeing through bullshit like this.

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Old 23-05-2015, 10:56 AM   #8
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Interesting thread and I've started to wonder about the safety of meditation
at these times. The NHS is pushing Mindfulness as a valid treatment for all sorts of medcial conditions. But I dont trust the NHS.

Emptying your mind might leave people vulnerable to attack?
The boundaries of our world have become weakend and confused, so is meditation safe?
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Old 23-05-2015, 04:49 PM   #9
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There are many different types of meditation. So to say that meditation is good or bad is like saying that exercise is good or bad. I think that the style of meditation that is probably most controversial is Transcendental Meditation, but a lot of that is to do with the cult-like nature of the movement itself.

The best meditation book I ever read was True Meditation by Adyashanti.
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Recently most of my sessions have been dark and a little frightening if im being honest -Nothing i cant handle though.

Ive had various ''alien'' and ''entity'' ccommunications which are most bizzare.
But i KNOW these'' aliens'' and ''entities'' are nothing more than a aspect/part of the self that i do not currently understand Hence being slightly frightend

Naturaly we fear the unknown -Especially when it has alien and demonic faces

I believe i have shon a light on my own infestations of parasites--it would explain why everyone elses ''entities'' are comming from what seems like far and wide to have a pop and dig at me.

Must be winning ehhhh
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i honesty think the whole spiritual path stuff is a load of bollocks and was created just to distract. just as all the religions do also.
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Mindfulness is pretty safe IMO.
Some forms of meditation are tough though.
Zazen for one, that's physically hard to do.
I wonder if meditation does lead to psychological issues or are people prone to having psychological issues drawn to meditation?
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A book recently published 'The Buddha Pill: Can Meditation Change You?' by Dr Miguel
Farias and Catherine Wikholm'
has caught the attention of the MSM recently, an article
in the Independent and another in New Scientist magazine:


Panic, depression and stress: The case against meditation.


There seems to be a genuine concern here, or is meditation under attack from dark and
unseen forces within the media and its Judeo-Christian controllers?


THE INDEPENDENT 21 May 2015



Meditation is touted as a cure for mental instability
but can it actually be bad for you?


If it's so powerful, might meditation also do harm to sensitive souls? Researching a
mass murder, Dr Miguel Farias discovered that, far from bringing inner peace, it can leave
devotees in pieces



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The draco wolves will try to prevent you from meditating, they don't want people having perception on things, so when you meditate they will be all over you. They want people docile and idiotic, not meditative and conteplating on things.

Human must remain a slave that works overtime.
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Getting to know oneself can be a tricksy business.

In my opinion, the problem with meditation is that it quietens the mind before the mind has finished asking all it's questions.
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Meditation can open up the 'Pandora's box' of the unconscious forces. If people are going to do that, they need to do it at a pace they can handle...also need to be wise.
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The only dark side of meditation is that not everyone is naturally wired to meditate, and all those gurus preach meditation as a means to WAKE UP, and get enlightened.. There are many other ways, meditation is just one way
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Getting to know oneself can be a tricksy business.

In my opinion, the problem with meditation is that it quietens the mind before the mind has finished asking all it's questions.


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The only dark side of meditation is that not everyone is naturally wired to meditate, and all those gurus preach meditation as a means to WAKE UP, and get enlightened.. There are many other ways, meditation is just one way
I agree with both these posts.

I remember the despair I would feel when "spiritual" people would tell me I dont have any chance at awakening until I could meditate.

What they really meant , was, they would not have been able too.

I managed it without having any of the bells,whistles and magic feathers
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The astral realm consists of different layers.

The first layer is populated with souls who we know as ghosts.
While the upper layers are populated with souls from our soul-family.
We go there every night when we sleep to connect with them etc.

The risk is when you go there unprotected which is the case in meditation
I personally am not a great fan of meditation.

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meditation is the effort/practice of increasing and abiding in awareness
cultivating awareness

are you guys trying to find fault with that?

when developing awareness you should do it 24hrs a day without break

but those that try it and theyre not ready to do it will have problems
if you practice it incorrectly youll have problems eg crazyness/insanity
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i honesty think the whole spiritual path stuff is a load of bollocks and was created just to distract. just as all the religions do also.
Sure the mainstream version of spirituality is and i dont doubt many millions of people are following these paths.

But

A true spiritual path comes from within NOT outside of you....You cannot describe it its impossible -It has no name -it has no form-you cant even picture it in your minds eye...all you can do is see the effects of it in your life.....

Its like the wind ...you cant see the wind only the effects it has.
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