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Old 02-09-2018, 10:34 AM   #421
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except that's patently untrue because much of the information being shared is new information coming out all the time

so for example with health issues it often takes about 40 years to build up a body of evidence that proves conclusively that a substance is harmful

many so called 'conspiracy theorists' have said for years that monsantos roundup is harmful to living things and that monsanto has an agenda

recently a court case ruled that a gardener was indeed given non hodgkins lymphoma by the roundup he was exposed to

The world health organisation had to admit that roundup is 'probably carcinogenic' because tests on animal cells have shown it to be so but obviously you can't test it on humans so it becomes difficult to get that 'definately carcinogenic' label but that doesn't mean that the rest of us have to wait around for that verdict

That information gets shared around as new research comes in.

also the independent media gives a platform to many whistleblowers which is why it knows things before they are reported in the lamestream corporate media for example we knew about saville before he died and the corporate media finally reported on it. We knew about the CIA backed coup in iran in 1953 before the US government finally declassified files in recent years to prove it so

Lots of information is out there but not in the mainstream and the independent media is scouring places for that information and also listening to insiders who are sharing that information
Independant media? what about controlled opposition? what if they are created with the express purpose of deceiving you? what if they give a few facts mixed with a lot of shit to throw you off the scent? I find it odd that you go on about controlled opposition and can put your trust in some people so easily.

I have went onto various truther websites over time and found that what they often do is to cut and paste from each other, so this shared information is generally from once source that cant be verified (not suspicious is it, lol). Im quite certain that a lot of information from whistle blowers is frabrication. All you need is a person with some basic knowledge of say freemasonry, enough to sound authentic, but who will then introduce all sorts of other junk, stuff they know people expect to hear or want to hear, and then people think they have been given inside information when they have really been duped. There are lost of groups out there who would love to destroy freemasonry, or if not destroy to hide within it.

I get it about the health stuff and agree but you cant say that because such a thing applies to one situation then it has to apply to all others. The truth is that big business is often keen to get products on the market without full testing and things may seem safe in the short term but have long term problems. I wouldnt be shocked if some were happy to sell dodgy products as long as they make a packet.
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:43 PM   #422
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Independant media? what about controlled opposition? what if they are created with the express purpose of deceiving you? what if they give a few facts mixed with a lot of shit to throw you off the scent? I find it odd that you go on about controlled opposition and can put your trust in some people so easily.

I have went onto various truther websites over time and found that what they often do is to cut and paste from each other, so this shared information is generally from once source that cant be verified (not suspicious is it, lol). Im quite certain that a lot of information from whistle blowers is frabrication. All you need is a person with some basic knowledge of say freemasonry, enough to sound authentic, but who will then introduce all sorts of other junk, stuff they know people expect to hear or want to hear, and then people think they have been given inside information when they have really been duped. There are lost of groups out there who would love to destroy freemasonry, or if not destroy to hide within it.
oh for sure there are bad actors out there who 'poison the well' and this is why you should cross reference things as much as you can

so david has a pretty extensive view of the situation. If you read his book 'the perception deception' for example he covers a vast range of subject areas

There are many great authors out there but they tend to have a speciality area where as david is more of a generalist who knows about a lot of areas and as a result can then connect them up and see them within the context of a larger picture

So if we have a supposition for example that there is a secretive cabal who are planning to create a world government run by them and that they have plans to depopulate the planet and then enslave it under a SMART grid technocracy we need to be looking at diverse areas in which to test that supposition

That's what david is doing by looking at all the areas he does in his research and also with the headlines of this website

As time goes on and all these elements fall into place we have a situation where more and more arrows point towards something being true

As you learn more and more about the connections between people and as you observe their behaviours and listen to their statements you can begin to get an idea of the lay of the land and the more attuned you become to that the more adept you become at reading situations because you essentially come to understand the game plan and once you understand that you can even predict things a lot of the time because you know where it is they are planning to take us next as per their agenda

That can take years of research to have that kind of clarity of vision

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I get it about the health stuff and agree but you cant say that because such a thing applies to one situation then it has to apply to all others. The truth is that big business is often keen to get products on the market without full testing and things may seem safe in the short term but have long term problems. I wouldnt be shocked if some were happy to sell dodgy products as long as they make a packet.
I don't agree with the profit motive argument. Sure that might be true of target driven mid level management but at the top they have agendas and sometimes they even tell you what their agendas are. Othertimes whistleblowers tell us and othertimes it is the moves people make that shows their hand
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:01 PM   #423
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oh for sure there are bad actors out there who 'poison the well' and this is why you should cross reference things as much as you can

so david has a pretty extensive view of the situation. If you read his book 'the perception deception' for example he covers a vast range of subject areas

There are many great authors out there but they tend to have a speciality area where as david is more of a generalist who knows about a lot of areas and as a result can then connect them up

So if we have a supposition for example that there is a secretive cabal who are planning to create a world government run by them and that they have plans to depopulate the planet and then enslave it under a SMART grid technocracy we need to be looking at diverse areas in which to test that supposition

That's what david is doing by looking at all the areas he does in his research and also with the headlines of this website

As time goes on and all these elements fall into place we have a situation where more and more arrows point towards something being true

As you learn more and more about the connections between people and as you observe their behaviours and listen to their statements you can begin to get an idea of the lay of the land and the more attuned you become to that the more adept you become at reading situations because you essentially come to understand the game plan and once you understand that you can even predict things a lot of the time because you know where it is they are planning to take us next as per their agenda

That can take years of research to have that kind of clarity of vision



I don't agree with the profit motive argument. Sure that might be true of target driven mid level management but at the top they have agendas and sometimes they even tell you what their agendas are. Othertimes whistleblowers tell us
Of course you dont agree with them just being greedy fatcats. Doesnt fit in with the more exciting view they they are out to get you.

People in the establishment are connected regardles of whether they are freemasons or not. They go to the same schools and clubs, etc. I agree that a secret group of people could conspire to dominate nations but again, you dont need freemasonry for that. To lay the blame for all of this at the door of freemasonry is just bogus and shoddy. In fact it would serve the real perpetrators really well as it would mean the attention was directed at somebody else, another large organisation where they may have infiltrators hiding behind a charitable insituation.

What is clear is that you have absolutely no intetion of admitting that freemasonry does aspire to good values, which Im sure you actually agree with if you studied them, but instead continue to hold out on the abject lie that all freemasons are guilty for the crimes of a few. Like I asked before which you didnt answer, would you hold the average catholic accountable for the sins of the church? same goes for any other group. Good and bad exist in all things.

Davids view is based on what he has read rather than what he knows himself. He also has a bit of a habit of taking the worst case scenario and acting like that is the norm. Lets not forget, he doesnt know for sure what goes on so he doesnt really know the truth and therefore cant have formed a view that is completely accurate, especially as his anti-masonic bias is clear to see. I have read at least 3 of his books so know what he writes. Was actually tempted to get his latest book but thought it might be another repitition like the others seemed to be. Only a person who has seen both sides of a situation can really make an impartial assessement, not a person who is speculating based on possibly corrupt or false information.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:55 PM   #424
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Of course you dont agree with them just being greedy fatcats. Doesnt fit in with the more exciting view they they are out to get you.

People in the establishment are connected regardles of whether they are freemasons or not. They go to the same schools and clubs, etc. I agree that a secret group of people could conspire to dominate nations but again, you dont need freemasonry for that. To lay the blame for all of this at the door of freemasonry is just bogus and shoddy. In fact it would serve the real perpetrators really well as it would mean the attention was directed at somebody else, another large organisation where they may have infiltrators hiding behind a charitable insituation.

What is clear is that you have absolutely no intetion of admitting that freemasonry does aspire to good values, which Im sure you actually agree with if you studied them, but instead continue to hold out on the abject lie that all freemasons are guilty for the crimes of a few. Like I asked before which you didnt answer, would you hold the average catholic accountable for the sins of the church? same goes for any other group. Good and bad exist in all things.

Davids view is based on what he has read rather than what he knows himself. He also has a bit of a habit of taking the worst case scenario and acting like that is the norm. Lets not forget, he doesnt know for sure what goes on so he doesnt really know the truth and therefore cant have formed a view that is completely accurate, especially as his anti-masonic bias is clear to see. I have read at least 3 of his books so know what he writes. Was actually tempted to get his latest book but thought it might be another repitition like the others seemed to be. Only a person who has seen both sides of a situation can really make an impartial assessement, not a person who is speculating based on possibly corrupt or false information.
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:59 AM   #425
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Of course you dont agree with them just being greedy fatcats. Doesnt fit in with the more exciting view they they are out to get you.

People in the establishment are connected regardles of whether they are freemasons or not. They go to the same schools and clubs, etc. I agree that a secret group of people could conspire to dominate nations but again, you dont need freemasonry for that.
there is a network of secret societies but freemasonry is probably the largest umbrella organisation

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To lay the blame for all of this at the door of freemasonry is just bogus and shoddy.
unless of course freemasony a religious order according to manley p hall or what i would call a magical order does indeed have a global agenda

maybe as a low down minion you are just not privy to that agenda and are not knowledgable about the wider conspiracy to be able to discearn that agenda

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In fact it would serve the real perpetrators really well as it would mean the attention was directed at somebody else, another large organisation where they may have infiltrators hiding behind a charitable insituation.

What is clear is that you have absolutely no intetion of admitting that freemasonry does aspire to good values,
i think you should judge people by what they do not what they say because if you ask a murdering psychopath if they are a murdering psychopath they will say 'no, i'm a great guy'

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which Im sure you actually agree with if you studied them, but instead continue to hold out on the abject lie that all freemasons are guilty for the crimes of a few. Like I asked before which you didnt answer, would you hold the average catholic accountable for the sins of the church? same goes for any other group. Good and bad exist in all things.
that's a bad example because i see the catholic church as being part of the conspiracy too

i see the NWO being controlled through the vatican city which has a solar phallic obelisk in the middle of st marks square and through washington district of columbia which has the washington monument obelisk and londons square mile banking district which has cleopatras needle

Those three areas are all seperate legal enclaves from the countries they are located within. They are essentially protected from investigation from the national police. They contain freemasonic headquarters and they represent the administrative head of the NWO, its religious centre and also its banking district or to put it into language a freemason might understand: the head, the heart and the generative organs

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Davids view is based on what he has read rather than what he knows himself. He also has a bit of a habit of taking the worst case scenario and acting like that is the norm. Lets not forget, he doesnt know for sure what goes on
no YOU don't know for sure what's going on but you can't speak for people who are more informed than you
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Psychoactive brew to go to the otherworld to commune with the 'gods'...

World's oldest brewery discovered, was making beer 13,000 years ago
By James Rogers | Fox News

Researchers from the U.S. and Israel have found evidence of the world’s oldest beer-making in an Israeli cave.

Scientists studied three 13,000-year-old stone mortars uncovered in the Raqefet Cave near what is now the Israeli city of Haifa. Residues confirmed that the mortars were used for brewing of wheat and barley, as well as for food storage.

Experts from Stanford University and the University of Haifa participated in the research. “This accounts for the oldest record of man-made alcohol in the world,” said Li Liu, a professor of Chinese archaeology at Stanford, in a statement.

The cave formed part of a prehistoric graveyard used by the Natufian people, providing a clue to beer’s role in their culture. Experts believe that the Natufians brewed beer as part of ritual feasts that honored the dead. “This discovery indicates that making alcohol was not necessarily a result of agricultural surplus production, but it was developed for ritual purposes and spiritual needs, at least to some extent, prior to agriculture,” said Liu.



The research, published in the Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports, notes that the earliest bread remains discovered were recently uncovered from a Natufian site in Jordan. The bread remains could be between 11,600 and 14,600 years old, according to Liu, who says that beer findings could be from 11,700 to 13,700 years ago.

The Natufians likely used a three-stage brewing process that first turned the starch of wheat or barley into starch. The malt would then be mashed or heated and then left to ferment with airborne wild yeast.

Prehistoric beer, however, was quite unlike our modern brews, according to Jiajing Wang, a doctoral student at Stanford and co-author of the study. The Natufian brew was most likely a “multi-ingredient concoction like porridge or thin gruel,” the research says.

The prehistoric brewery is the latest fascinating archaeological find in Israel. Earlier this year, an international team of researchers announced the discovery of the earliest modern human fossil outside of Africa at Misliya Cave on Mt. Carmel in northern Israel. Dated between 175,000 and 200,000 years ago, the jawbone indicates that modern humans left the continent of Africa at least 50,000 years earlier than previously thought.

In 2015, researchers also found a partial human skull in a cave in Northern Israel dating from around 55,000 years ago. The fossil remains have been linked to migration of humans from Africa to Europe.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/...years-ago.html
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