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Old 23-01-2011, 01:01 PM   #21
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Speculations on the "Stone that is Not" at Edinburgh Castle using Gematria.


Eben; Stone 703 or 53.

Eben Chen; Precious Stone 1411 0r 111

Eben Massau ha Bonim ; " The Stone that the builders rejected";1483 or 273.




111:

Achad Hua Elohim ; He is One God.

Nakhiel ; Intelligence of the sun.

Pele ; The Wonder an occult title for Kether.

"ruin destruction, sudden death.

"ascent"

"thick darkness"



273


Churam Abiv aka Hiram Abif THE key masonic figure.

"The Hidden Light"

"Four"

"Took Away"




In genuine occult tradition Jacobs Pillow/Pillat/ Stone is seen has the "Rock of Shetiyah". (Even ha Shetiyah) Which is the "foundation stone of the world". It is the rock the creator cast into the abyss to act as a connection between Diviity and the lower worlds.


Symbolically what this represents is a strong possibility that Edinburgh Castle is going to be used in some sort of ceremony using a member of the Royal family has a contact point for some sort of alien visitation at Edinburgh. In practical terms it could be that Edinburgh Castle will be used has the UK Government's official location for first contact with an alien species to the world. And all the while that stone will be used ritually and symbolically in that open offical contact.

This ties in earlier with the term "EBEN" that the spooks , military and securocrats insist on using identify a certain type of ET. Although ths is speculation the gematria and synchronicity stands up.
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In genuine occult tradition Jacobs Pillow/Pillat/ Stone is seen has the "Rock of Shetiyah". (Even ha Shetiyah) Which is the "foundation stone of the world". It is the rock the creator cast into the abyss to act as a connection between Diviity and the lower worlds.
I did not know that yamayama, what is your source?


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Symbolically what this represents is a strong possibility that Edinburgh Castle is going to be used in some sort of ceremony using a member of the Royal family has a contact point for some sort of alien visitation at Edinburgh. In practical terms it could be that Edinburgh Castle will be used has the UK Government's official location for first contact with an alien species to the world. And all the while that stone will be used ritually and symbolically in that open offical contact.
Do you not think that it could be more to do with returning balance to this planet yamayama? Our world is far from ready for open alien contact, even coppers who talk about their signtings and contacts get ridiculed (when their words would normally act as proof to convict). Dont get me wrong yamayama I would love to see open alien contact, but the human race has to leave puberty first.

One question yamayama, if the stone in the castle is a fake then surely provision would have to be made for the real one to be used? Or given the connection of all would it really matter?

Also when you do think that the ceremony will take place?

And a final thought having recently watched Star Trek 3, do you think that the ceremony will involve an Anakin or a Luke Skywalker?
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Also when you do think that the ceremony will take place?

Being speculation, who is to say that it hasnt taken place already?...
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Being speculation, who is to say that it hasnt taken place already?...
Indeed yamayama indeed.

Now come on yamayama you know that being a Scotsman I have a personal interest in the stone, please answer some of my questions, and not simply dangle a hook and tease

I may disagree with you about the energies of Edinburgh, but I am listening to you, and hoping that you can flesh out your bones a bit.
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http:///www.henrymakow.com/queen_eli...bloodline.html


dont know how well sourced this is but interesting all the same
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Thank you that was an interesting read. I know that I tease that if I were of Royal blood that I would get myself the Grand Master of UGLEs job and gently guide it on a path of reillumination in the 21st century (which is true I would if I was), but in many ways I am glad that I am not, for can you imagine all of the hassles that go with being Royalty? I am sure that it has its benefits but but I much prefer the company of common man and can you imagine how many yes-men and brown nosers etc Royalty must have around them? Anyhow to the point of my post Himram, if that article was to be true, how do you think that it would interact with yamayama's ceremony at the castle with the stone? After all if the stone is fake and if HM knows it, would a member of the Royal family really use it to meet aliens with, if it was vital?

Also as the stone is now on public display, do you not think that if there really was a problem given HM reigns over Scotland that it would have not been kept somewhere quiet and not on public display in the castle?

I am just intrigued as I love the castle, the stone, and as I say sitting in the tattoo stands I have often looked up to the castle and thought abut the stone within. Funny thing is that I once had a dream about a ceremony at the castle involving the stone which is why I am interested in yamayama's theory, but I wish he/she would answer questions!!
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Thank you that was an interesting read. I know that I tease that if I were of Royal blood that I would get myself the Grand Master of UGLEs job and gently guide it on a path of reillumination in the 21st century (which is true I would if I was), but in many ways I am glad that I am not, for can you imagine all of the hassles that go with being Royalty? I am sure that it has its benefits but but I much prefer the company of common man and can you imagine how many yes-men and brown nosers etc Royalty must have around them? Anyhow to the point of my post Himram, if that article was to be true, how do you think that it would interact with yamayama's ceremony at the castle with the stone? After all if the stone is fake and if HM knows it, would a member of the Royal family really use it to meet aliens with, if it was vital?

Also as the stone is now on public display, do you not think that if there really was a problem given HM reigns over Scotland that it would have not been kept somewhere quiet and not on public display in the castle?

I am just intrigued as I love the castle, the stone, and as I say sitting in the tattoo stands I have often looked up to the castle and thought abut the stone within. Funny thing is that I once had a dream about a ceremony at the castle involving the stone which is why I am interested in yamayama's theory, but I wish he/she would answer questions!!

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Again I don't know how well researched it is but i have come across the 1950 pinchin of the stone and how the stone was switched before don't know all the details and it might be one of those scary stories you Scots tell us English when we come to live here!1

I think another way of looking at it is if she aint got it who has and why cosidering its "mythical" implications. If she knows it a fake what does that imply, cause I dont believe theres much doubt that she was the daughter of the king. So does the matter of the stone relate to her overt role a head of state (sorry Scots too)or to her role as head of the tribe?? As to keeping it on public display, the first time I saw it was in the castle and the plaque told me what i was looking at, so only a few can tell you if its real or not so in a castle seems a good as place as any.

As to a relation to meeting of aliens well.....I didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't/can't happen
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There is a good film about it, was at the cinema a few years ago "Stone of Destiny". Worth a watch if you are interested.

My best guess would be that if the stone did indeed come form heaven, and or if someone who is true of heart can connect with it, it could act as part of the crystal grid of this planet. Now, a second issue, if it really does have to do with aliens, and if ancient alien accounts are true and aliens seeded us, then it is entirely possible (in a way similar to Stargate and how only some with ancient genes can operate the chair) that the stone could act as a sort of portal, a sign of divine kingship (as in alien divine), and as a lump of rock all in one.

Then again it could just be a lump of rock that we use to tease the English with

Perosnally I would love to see aliens land, in public, and out strides a couple both wearing masonic aprons, asking what has been happening while we have been away? I bet a few would get a bit sweaty under the collar

As El says to Enlins descendants - what have you done my children, Enki was suppose to be in charge here I think that dynorod (drain cleaners) would be busy with all of the pooping that would be going on..

Perhaps thats why there has been a mad rush towards human rights, social mobility, environmental awareness, etc in recent years? "Look Dad we have been good"

Alternatively it could all be over excited imaginations.

Anyhow Himram what is the stone like in real life, I have never actually ventured into the castle to see it, the last time I was in the castle itself was before its return.
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Just to elaborate on the Castle.

For decades there has been talk of a hidden tunnel that links the castle to Holyrood palace. Now if this was the case then it would tie in with the symbolic and ritual purpose of the keeping a permanent posting of British Army officers at the castle.

But here is the interesting thing, there was some sort of renovation work to allow staff and "VIP's" to enter the castle through the rock on the side of the castle bypassing the bridge and the arch getting into the castle:

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believe it’s plausible that a secret tunnel could have been used as an emergency escape route for times when the castle was under siege but, disappointingly, no evidence has been found. Nobody can point to a section of dungeon wall and say that’s where the tunnel opening used to be. There’s no proof in documents or maps either. Prisoners who managed to escape in 1811 broke through the walls, not the rock below.

So – no old tunnel to be found, but there is a new tunnel. The army still has soldiers living and working in the castle, as they have for hundreds of years. Until the 1980s they used to drive along the main cobbled path winding up from the well-fortified entrance to the stone barracks. Tourists had to stand to the side while jeeps and the occasional limo crawled past.

Then engineers devised a new route through the rock, like one of those tunnels to a secret underground project in a James Bond film, according to a castle driver, even though it doesn’t go anywhere deep down. It’s just a private way in that avoids the crowds, the drawbridge, and the portcullis.

Blasting and drilling had to be planned with respect for the foundations of the medieval St Margaret’s Chapel, just 17 metres (55 feet) above the tunnel. They also had to avoid the sensitive alarms around the Scottish crown jewels kept in the castle. All was successfully completed. At last there really is a tunnel for a select few to get inside the fortifications without passing through the arch in the gatehouse
Who would be the select few? And why would they need an anonymous entrance out of the prying eyes of the tourists? Again this weirdness that suggests all is not right. The castle would be just perfect for all sorts of weird rituals and forms of occultism. The dungeons with their deviant morphogenic field would be a prime location for contacting entities and spirits so common in black magic and occult rituals. This would be one reason for the army presence at the castle. They would allow the monarch to enter at any time of their choosing with no paper work involved.


With regard to the issue of "Aliens" and ET, these take many many forms. They might not be physical. Or even biological. These types of ET might be a lot closer to the types of entity that practioners of old school occultism and magick woulld seek contact with (a prime example is the Enochian Angels in contact with John Dee). The security afforded by the castle would give any Illuminati member all the privacy they would need for private correspondence with all sorts of interesting things using Jacobs Pillow.....

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There is a good film about it, was at the cinema a few years ago "Stone of Destiny". Worth a watch if you are interested.

My best guess would be that if the stone did indeed come form heaven, and or if someone who is true of heart can connect with it, it could act as part of the crystal grid of this planet. Now, a second issue, if it really does have to do with aliens, and if ancient alien accounts are true and aliens seeded us, then it is entirely possible (in a way similar to Stargate and how only some with ancient genes can operate the chair) that the stone could act as a sort of portal, a sign of divine kingship (as in alien divine), and as a lump of rock all in one.

Then again it could just be a lump of rock that we use to tease the English with

Perosnally I would love to see aliens land, in public, and out strides a couple both wearing masonic aprons, asking what has been happening while we have been away? I bet a few would get a bit sweaty under the collar

As El says to Enlins descendants - what have you done my children, Enki was suppose to be in charge here I think that dynorod (drain cleaners) would be busy with all of the pooping that would be going on..

Perhaps thats why there has been a mad rush towards human rights, social mobility, environmental awareness, etc in recent years? "Look Dad we have been good"

Alternatively it could all be over excited imaginations.

Anyhow Himram what is the stone like in real life, I have never actually ventured into the castle to see it, the last time I was in the castle itself was before its return.
The Stone in real life is....um well it was quite a few years ago and honestly it cant be that impressive because I cant remember must have something to do with all those shiny big jewels and the bloody big swords( I mean claymores really, talk about inferiorty complex!!)


As for aliens in mason aprons lol luv it if only it was going to be that easy!!!

PS think i might have seen the film rings a bell and thats just the type of thing the nationalist TV in Scotland would show(just when us english wanna watch the world cup)

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[QUOTE=yamayama;1059624799]Just to elaborate on the Castle.

For decades there has been talk of a hidden tunnel that links the castle to Holyrood palace. Now if this was the case then it would tie in with the symbolic and ritual purpose of the keeping a permanent posting of British Army officers at the castle.

But here is the interesting thing, there was some sort of renovation work to allow staff and "VIP's" to enter the castle through the rock on the side of the castle bypassing the bridge and the arch getting into the castle:



Few years ago I was working with an ex army chef who had worked at the castle. He also told me that in, around, and all through the castle are tunnells everywhere. He also repeted the rummor of a tunnel leading to the palace.


Also in Robert Lomas's bookTurning the Solomon Key he mentions this with regards to The Royal Mile after the Civil War;

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King Charles commanded Sir William Bruce, The Grand Master Mason Of Scotland, to rebuild the palace at Hollyood House in Edinburgh; which was accordingly executed in the best Augustan style.

This took place a few years after Charles had had to turn down Wren's plan for a similar alignment in London. Perhaps Wren's Masonic message was not lost on that Feemason king, because the alignment that Charles II restored, between Edinburgh Castle and Holyrood Palace pionts to the same key Masonic Sunrise that Wren wanted to commemorate in his proposed layout for the city of London.
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So a good place to go and see the Shekinah then.
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Heres a good example of the morphogenic field beneath the old town in the many many tunnels that have been found so far...

http://beyondthestarsastrology.wordp...y-of-the-dead/


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Economic and social conditions in Edinburgh were so poor for so long, until the Scottish Renaissance in the 1800s which brought intellectual supremacy to an otherwise illiterate and deprived city, that the Underground City was often the only choice many had for housing. Because it was illegal to be unmarried and pregnant, unwed women fled to the caverns to have their children, often dying in childbirth. Criminals frequented the caverns and tunnels, avoiding the meager law force in existence at the time. When the universities began conducting medical experiments, doctors’ increasing need for cadavers compelled their assistants to plunge into the darkness of the caverns, searching for those who wouldn’t be missed. Throats were slit, bodies carried off, and the nature of the Underground City made it so that no one would care. In “Satan’s Invisible World,” as the Underground was called as early as 1685 by George Sinclair, Professor of Moral Philosophy at Glasgow University, almost any terrible, amoral deed could be perpetrated, and probably was. And if the deeds written about never actually happened, they served as morality tales to frighten the Scots against immorality and the evils of poverty.




In the past fifteen years, the tunnels and caverns have begun being excavated, and rediscovered, largely thanks to the efforts of writer and entrepreneur Jan Andrew Henderson, who saw the profit motive in gaining access to these disturbing vaults. As a result, he started his own tour company, dragging innocent thrill-seekers down into what is the most disturbing place I have ever been, that’s for sure. The atmosphere of these dark spaces reeks of those who do not rest comfortably in their early graves. The underground was infamous for its utter disdain for human life, and if you were forced by circumstances to dwell in these tunnels or caverns, you certainly didn’t have long to wait before you shuffled off this mortal coil.

Hendersen has written about the history of the city in his book The Town Below the Ground: Edinburgh’s Legendary Underground City, and he has a website you can check out. These all seem to be the same address, but you’ll find your way. Just be sure to take a torch that actually works. Torches in the underground are famous for going out.

The following picture was taken while down in the vaults the other night. It shows what is possibly the residue of human energy (seen as an “orb,” a rather famous shape that spirits are supposed to take on in photographs). Now, the underground is reputed to be one of the most haunted places on earth, and let me tell you something: I am pretty sensitive to whatever it is we leave behind us after death. Perhaps we leave behind some kind of energy. I will attest to the fact that the vaults are disturbing places to be, and I am not one to be easily manipulated into feeling fear. What I experienced down there was a growing sense of unease, and the sense that I was surrounded by energy, some of it desperately unhappy, but most rather malevolent. So if there are such things as ghostly eminences, which I happen to believe there are, the Underground City has plenty of them
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From an occult point of view the hauntings and ghosts are not relevant. Its the morphogenic field that helps to manifest them that is more important in this context. Its my contention that there has been dug out a hidden tunnel system and possible ritual cavern beneath the old town that has been used by the Illuminati and certain members of the British Establishment to carry out communication, contact, ritual sacrifice and child rape/murder to attract and worship certain illuminati deities and gods. Considering the 322 link then Moloch would be the main contender followed by Lillith for the crossroads aspect of using the child sacrifice to open portals in the morphogenic field.

What we need is some brave volunteers to explore the tunnel network and to see where it leads You will need a cam, good lighting, and night vision tech. The purpose will be to explore and navigate finding anything unusual (aka ritual remains/ items). Also do certain tunnels lead out of the old town? And to where? A key time to explore would be ritual dates for Satanism and important illuminati dates. These are the times that the tunnels and caverns would be used for ritual.
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In the words of jiminy cricket " And theres more!!"

With regard to the creation of artificial tunnels and caverns beneath Edinburgh take a look at the following thread. It shows earthquake activity right in the heart of Edinburgh just south of Arthurs Seat. Considering that there is no geological activity in that area for say several million years, what would cause this? Maybe something has been digging beneath Arthurs Seat or even right into it to create a cave. And keep in mind Arthurs seat is right adjacent to Holyrood Palace. So has specualtion we could have a network of tunnels starting at the castle and going all the way down to Arthurs Seat.

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99181

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...7015743AAVbI1R
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Heres the wiki leak to the Edinburgh vaults in the old town:




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Edinburgh's South Bridge should be regarded as more than a simple crossing from Old Town to Southside. It was, in fact, Edinburgh's first purpose built shopping street, and as such as much space as possible was utilised. The bridge itself is a nineteen arch viaduct, although only one arch is visible today, the 'Cowgate arch.' The remaining eighteen arches were enclosed behind tenement buildings built to allow the area to serve as a commercial district. The hidden arches of the bridge were then given extra floors to allow their use for industry. In total there are approximately 120 rooms or 'vaults' beneath the surface of the South Bridge, ranging in size from two metres squared to forty metres squared. South Bridge officially opened for business on 1 March 1788

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Inside the vaults

The vault rooms, used as storage space and workshops for the South Bridge businesses, operated as intended for a relatively short space of time. Construction of the bridge had been rushed and the surface was never sealed against water. The vaults began to flood. Abandonment of the vaults began as early as 1795. With the vaults being gradually abandoned by the businesses on the bridge, the empty rooms were adopted and adapted by new users. As the industrial revolution took hold of Britain, the Cowgate area had developed into Edinburgh's slum. Slum dwellers took over the vaults and they became a renowned red light district with countless brothels and pubs operating within the abandoned complex. The vaults also served as additional slum housing for the city’s poor. Living conditions were appalling. The rooms were cramped, dark and damp. There was no sunlight, poorly circulated air, no running water, and no sanitation. Many rooms housed families of more than ten people. Crimes, including robbery and murder, soon plagued the Vaults. Burke and Hare, the infamous serial killers who sold corpses to medical schools, are rumoured to have hunted for victims in the Edinburgh Vaults.

It is not known when the vaults complex was closed down, with some suggesting as early as c.1835 and others as late as c.1875. Written records regarding the vaults during their slum use are virtually non-existent. All that is known is that at some point tons of rubble were dumped into the vaults making them inaccessible.

The vaults were rediscovered by former Scottish rugby internationalist, Norrie Rowan, after he found a tunnel leading to them in the 1980s. From this tunnel he helped Romanian rugby player Christian Raducanu escape the Romanian secret police and seek political asylum weeks before the Romanian uprising of 1989.[3]

The vaults were excavated by Norrie Rowan and his son Norman Rowan in the 1990s. Hundreds of tonnes of rubble were removed by hand and several interesting artifacts were discovered including thousands of oyster shells, which were part of the staple diet of the Edinburgh working class.

The frequent reports of paranormal activity and ghost sightings resulted in the UK paranormal entertainment show, Most Haunted, to investigate the vaults in both a 24 hour investigation and for a Most Haunted Live show on Halloween 2006. The television show Ghost Adventures investigated the vaults and claimed to have numerous encounters with spirits there.

In 2001, Professor Richard Wiseman of the University of Hertfordshire invited subjects to spend time in the Edinburgh Vaults. His study concluded that people who believed in ghosts reported more supernatural experiences than disbelievers, that participants consistently reported unusual sensations in areas they were told were haunted, and that there was an increased report of incidents in Vault rooms with a decidedly more sinister visual appearance or stronger cold air flow. Professor Wiseman’s study suggests that visitors may help create the haunted experience they expect to find in the Vaults.

However in 2009 a BBC TV production team filming a one-off TV special featuring Joe Swash recorded unexplained voices in the vaults during an overnight sleepover by Swash. One voice appeared to be that of a Catholic priest reciting the Last Rites. Swash was the only person in the vaults and did not hear the voices himself at the time of recording, despite the sounds being audible on his own microphone. The voices continued to be heard on the recording for some 20 minutes before abruptly ceasing after what appears to be the sound of children yelling. BBC sound engineers initially thought the sounds may be explained by voices drifting into the tunnels from nightclubs nearby but this was found to be incorrect and no other logical explantion could be found. The recordings were broadcast as part of the finished program Joe Swash Believes in Ghosts on BBC Three in January 2010.

The wiki article doesnt elaborate on any other tunnels though.


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And theres more:

http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh/1...der.3278251.jp

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A NETWORK of tunnels under Edinburgh city centre is hindering preparations for the capital's £592 million tram line, it emerged yesterday.
The extent and size of the tunnels - which were built to house cables for the city's first tram network over 100 years ago - is understood to have taken engineers by surprise.


Safety checks to ensure the roads above the tunnels - which run from Leith Walk to Haymarket via Princes Street - are capable of carrying the trams are now expected to take longer.

The long-abandoned tunnels are around 3ft wide and 6ft tall and were used by mechanics to service huge cables that pulled tramcars around Edinburgh at the turn of the previous century.

TIE - the council-owned company in charge of the tram project - insisted it had taken the network of tunnels into account when it drew up its plans.

However, a source close to the project said the extent of the tunnel network had taken engineers by surprise and was making life more difficult for them.

The insider said: "It is not as if they didn't know about these tunnels, but the extent and size of them was certainly not fully appreciated. It has certainly not helped the project's timescale."

Work digging up the city's roads to divert utility pipes is still expected to get under way in June, although the company has yet to identify the areas where the first excavations will be carried out.

Initial work started this month - before being abandoned almost immediately for the Easter holidays - with a trial project to divert pipes and cables from the route.

The work at Ocean Drive in Leith will give contractor Alfred McAlpine a better idea of how work along the rest of the route will pan out. Details of the full programme of utilities diversions along the entire route from Newhaven to Edinburgh airport are expected to be announced in the coming weeks.

TIE said it did not expect the tunnel network to create any problems for the construction. A spokesman said: "We have taken these [tunnels] into account when developing the design and construction of the scheme."

But Steve Cardownie, the city's SNP leader and a staunch opponent of the trams scheme, raised concerns the tunnels could lead to more expensive work being needed.

He said: "These tunnels have been there for a long time and you would think that any issues would have been ironed out in advance.

"I worry that we will see problem after problem drip out if this project goes ahead and it will only push up the final bill."

Cable trams were introduced to Edinburgh in 1888 and ran until 1923, when they were replaced by electric trams. Edinburgh once boasted the fifth-biggest cable tramway in the world, based on system created by a Scot in San Francisco.

The Scottish Executive last month gave approval in principle to the tram scheme.

A final business case - including costings not yet available for the tram cars and installation of overhead lines - is expected to be approved in the autumn.
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Old 26-01-2011, 01:21 PM   #36
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This is the thing about this extended tunnel network. If it was all legit and above board then why has the media in Scotland not done any report or investigation into how large the tunnel network is? Have they been told to ignore it? Maybe a D Notice has been issued on this? Again this strange and freakish aspect of Edinburgh.

And theres more:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...0154054AA6EGbi

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Which ones??
Think there's quite a few.
- First one I know about runs from down near Cannonmills, up through the New Town (think it goes under one of the streets like Hanover or Fredrick) and comes out in Waverly Station.
They wanted to turn it into a car park at one point.
- One runs from the old Morge in the Cowagte up to the University on Chanbers Street, where they would secretly take the bodies for chopping up/surgery.
- Thats not even mentioning all the old streets burried under other streets around the Cowgate and Royal Mile.
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Now here is where it gets a bit "out there"...

Here we have the connection between 322 and the Roswell UFO crash.

http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/bab...owellcrash.htm

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The exact latitude of the Roswell Crash Site is the exact number as Skull and Bones' 322 cubed. This derived by GPS, not guesswork or speculation
3.22 cubed gives you 33.38

The latitude for Roswell New Mexico is...33.38


Has speculation what we might have here is that the original Majestic 12 members were scottish rite freemasons or Skull & Bones. The crash might not have happened near Roswell, but they purposely placed the crashed vehicle in the coordinate area of 33.38 for some ritual and symbolic reason. They might have even used the crashed Extra Terrestrial vehicle has a ritual altar for some sort of never used or known scottish rite masonic ritual (32 or 33rd degree maybe) Keep in mind that they took a hand made flag from a masonic lodge and gave it to Neil Armstrong to unfurl on the moon.

What this information means i dont know. But the synchronicity shows something freakish and strange going on. And Edinburgh is a part of it.
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Hi there YamaYama,



As a fellow dweller of "Auld Reckie" would be interested in your opinion on the following places;


The Scot Monument on Princess Street-Why? just look at it!!! Also was thinking about it today as I went past and musing on the tunnels and then theres your post about tunnels running North-South under Hannover St etc.....


The Standard Life building on Lotian Road-Why? octagon towers, arches all over the place, Royal Seal over the door etc.


As I say interested in your opinion.


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Hi Himram Abif, thanks for the response.

I can only go by the info at my disposal so i will give it a shot. The Scott Monument gives some interesting synchronicity.



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The tower is 200 feet 6 inches (61.11 m) high, and has a series of viewing decks reached by a series of narrow spiral staircases giving panoramic views of central Edinburgh and its surroundings. The highest viewing deck is reached by a total of 287 steps (those who climb the steps can obtain a certificate commemorating the event). It is built from Binny sandstone quarried in nearby Ecclesmachan. This oily stone was known to attract dirt quickly and was probably a deliberate choice to allow the Gothic form to quickly obtain the patina of age. Arguably the soot of Edinburgh's chimneys, in combination with smoke from the nearby railway line and Waverley Station perhaps over-egged the result, and it is now very hard to make out the numerous carved figures. Bill Bryson has described it as looking like a "gothic rocket ship"
The numbers here might lead somewhere;

200 feet plus 6 inches

206 in Gematria gives the following:

Idra-Assembly
Raah-to see, observe, perceive, consider (speculate)

From this we can see the Speculation Society was involved in the building of the monument in some sort of capacity. Also in the design of the monument it is telling us there is an unsolved mystery or unseen treasure at the assembly room of The Speculative Society up at Edinburgh Uni.


287 steps;

There isnt much gematria of use. But if one of the steps is non existent you get 286.

286- "High, lofty".



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Following Scott's death in 1832, a competition was held to design a monument to him. An unlikely entrant went under the pseudonym "John Morvo", the name of the medieval architect of Melrose Abbey. Morvo was in fact George Meikle Kemp, forty-five year old joiner, draftsman, and self-taught architect. Kemp had feared his lack of architectural qualifications and reputation would disqualify him, but his design (which was similar to an unsuccessful one he had earlier submitted for the design of Glasgow Cathedral) was popular with the competition's judges, and in 1838 Kemp was awarded the contract to construct the monument.

John Steell was commissioned to design a monumental statue of Scott to rest in the space between the tower's four columns. Steell's statue, made from white Carrara marble, shows Scott seated, resting from writing one of his works with a quill pen and his dog Maida by his side.

The foundation stone was laid on the 15th of August 1840. Following an Act of Parliament permitting it (the Monument to Sir Walter Scott Act 1841 (4 & 5 Vict.) C A P. XV.), construction began in 1841 and ran for nearly four years. The tower was completed in the autumn of 1844, with Kemp's son placing the finial in August of the year. The total cost was £16,154/7/11.[2] When the monument was inaugurated on the 15th of August 1846, George Meikle Kemp himself was absent; walking home from the site on the foggy evening of the 6th of March 1844, Kemp had fallen into the Union Canal and drowned
Ritual death of the Edinburgh architect. Mmmmm.
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Here you go Yamayama

Source http:///www.electricscotland.com/his...emp_george.htm



KEMP, GEORGE MEIKLE.—This architect, whose great work, the Scott Monument, one of the noblest ornaments of Edinburgh, has secured the admiration of Europe, and the approbation of the highest judges of architectural excellence in every country, was the son of a lowly shepherd, who pursued his occupation on the southern slope of the Pentland Hills. Such a scenery, where nothing but nature predominated, in the form of bare brown mountains and dashing waterfalls, was the least of all adapted to create a perception of the beautiful in art; so that, had not Kemp been born an architect, he would probably have been to the end of his days a shepherd or a mechanic. But at the age of ten years, having been sent on a message to Roslin, only six miles distant, he then, and for the first time, beheld the creative power of man, in the remains of the ancient castle of Roslin, and above all, in its exquisite gem, the chapel. The delight he experienced at this new revelation, and the earnestness with which he gazed at each portion of the work, not only confirmed his choice of life, but abode with him as vivid remembrances to the end of his days. The present, however, had to be cared for in the meantime; and young Kemp, as soon as he was fit for work, became apprentice to a joiner near Eddlestone; and when his term of service had expired he went to Galashiels, where he was employed nearly a twelve-month in the workshop of a millwright. This last-mentioned locality brought him into the neighbourhood of those districts where some of the richest specimens of ancient cathedral architecture which our island contains are all but grouped together; and thus he had many an opportunity of inspecting the remains of the abbeys of Melrose, Dryburgh, Kelso, and Jedburgh. After having fully studied these inspiring lessons, until Kemp, the humble millwright, had become heart and soul an architect, he went to England, where he worked a short time as a joiner, but omitting no opportunity of pursuing his natural vocation by studying the remains of Gothic architecture. A specimen of his zeal in this way was his walking fifty miles to York, to inspect its cathedral, and afterwards returning on foot. From Lancashire he removed to Glasgow, where he lived some time as a journeyman at his craft, and as a student within the massive shadows of the cathedral. Mr. Kemp came to Edinburgh in 1810 or 1817, and remained in the employment of the same party, as a joiner, until May, 1824, when he went to London. During this period he displayed the same bent of mind, as he was in the constant habit of making excursions into the country, even to remote districts, to examine some object of interest. A Roman camp, a fragment of Norman or early Gothic architecture, a battle-field, or the birthplace of some poet or warrior, all alike interested him. In pursuit of some such object he would often leave his work for days together. He was fortunately an excellent pedestrian, and could walk forty miles a-day with ease; for in those days the facilities of railway travelling did not exist. Kemp was an ardent admirer of our older poets. Chaucer, Sir David Lindsay, and Drummond, were his favourites; Burns he could almost repeat by heart; and he wrote occasional verses himself. Nor did he entirely neglect his musical powers. He was fond of the violin, and could bring out his favourite Scotch airs on that instrument with taste and feeling. Kemp, therefore, while following his humble calling, was recognized by his immediate friends as a man of genius; and, during the whole period of his residence in Edinburgh, he was on terms of closest intimacy with the family of his employer, with whom, on all festive occasions, he was a welcome guest.


Having learned, in this manner, all that Britain could teach him in the science of Gothic architecture, Mr. Kemp resolved to carry his researches into a more ample field. His design was to travel over Europe, inspecting its ancient remains of architecture, wherever they were to be found, and supporting himse1f, during his stay in the neighbourhood of each, by working at his ordinary trade. It was the spirit of the ancient builders, who roamed in companies from land to land, and whose footsteps a thousand years have not erased—men who were content to merge their individual names into the band of which they were a part, and into the art which they so devotedly and disinterestedly loved; and who cared not, if their works only survived to future ages, whether posterity should retain or throw aside the memory of those by whom such permanent sanctuaries for peace and contemplation were created in the midst of universal strife and havoc. It must have been such men as Kemp who were the leaders and master-spirits of such bands. In 1824 he commenced his tour, which extended from Boulogne, to Abbeville, to Beauvais, and Paris, halting at each place for some weeks, and studying their architectural remains during every hour of leisure in his handicraft employment. In such a city as Paris his pecuniary difficulties aught have been increased but for the demand of English workmen in France for mill machinery; and as Kemp was skilful in this department, he obtained full and profitable employment, so that he could confront the expenses of living in the capital, and study at leisure the details of Notre-Dame, and other, less noted structures. After two years’ travel of this kind in England and France, Kemp, on returning to Edinburgh, commenced business as a joiner, but was unsuccessful—and could he well be otherwise, when his heart was neither in the wood-yard nor at the planing-board? His hand, indeed, was more conversant at this time with the pencil than with axe or saw; and he was busy in the study of drawing and perspective, in which he soon became a proficient without the aid of a master. Having been unsuccessful in business as a master-joiner, Kemp returned to his former station as journeyman, to which he added the employment of an architectural draughtsman; and such was now the superior beauty and correctness of his drawings, that they soon found purchasers. One of the commissions of this kind he received was from Mr. Burn, the eminent architect, by whom he was employed to copy some of the working-drawings for the palace proposed to be built at Dalkeith, as the future mansion for the princely house of Buccleueh. Instead, however, of proceeding with the drawings, he set about modelling a section of the building in wood, and with such success, and so greatly to the satisfaction of the architect, Mr. Burn, that it resulted in a commission to do the whole edifice in the same style. On receiving this commission, he commenced the model with characteristic enthusiasm, and his own modest apartments soon becoming too small for the work, the architect’s ample drawing-room was, for the time being, converted into a workshop, and in it this remarkable specimen of zeal, ingenuity, and neat-handedness, was brought to a satisfactory conclusion, after occupying Kemp and an assistant for two whole years. After the miniature palace was finished, it was transferred to the vestibule of the ducal residence at Dalkeith, of which it forms an attractive ornament.


Amongst the engagements into which the occupation of draughtsman brought him, was that of furnishing drawings for a work illustrative of the Ecclesiastical Antiquities of Scotland, similar to Britton’s "Cathedral Antiquities," projected by Mr. James Johnston, engraver, Edinburgh. For this his intimate knowledge of architectural detail eminently qualified him; and he accordingly, during the years 1832, 1833, executed a number of drawings of singular correctness and beauty, besides a large series of preparative sketches, embracing Elgin, Pluscardine, Kinloss, Melrose, Roslin, and other of our ecclesiastical remains. During the progress of these drawings, Mr. Kemp and the publishers of the present work became acquainted. After Mr. Johnston’s premature death, the drawings made for him came into their possession, and Mr. Kemp subsequently completed, at their expense, the measurements and drawings of the Glasgow Cathedral, during the years 1834-35. While he was making these drawings, the project of repairing and completing this beautiful specimen of early pointed architecture was put forth by Mr. M’Lellan, in Glasgow. This led Kemp to prepare a design for the restoration and completion of the building. Fully to exhibit the character of this design, and to demonstrate his ability to construct it if employed to do so, he, in the years 1837, 1838, and 1839, at much sacrifice and labour, prepared a model of the entire cathedral, in which so perfectly did the new portions harmonize with the old, that it would have puzzled any architect, not conversant with the building as it really stood, to tell what part was old, and what were Mr. Kemp’s additions. Unhappily, the design would have cost more money to execute than there was at that time any expectation of obtaining, from government or otherwise; and it remains only an evidence of Mr. Kemp’s persevering patience, skill in handicraft, and architectural genius.


Thus matured in taste, talent, and skill, by an apprenticeship that was unique in the history of modern architecture, it was now full time that the knowledge of Mr. Kemp’s abilities should be extended beyond the circle of his admiring friends, into the world at large. Nothing less, indeed, than a great national work was adequate to such a genius; but what chance was there that an aproned, hard-handed mechanic would be intrusted with such a commission, especially when so many learned Vitruvios were in the field? Happily enough, however, the chance did come. The more than national, the universal desire to erect a monument to Sir Walter Scott in the fair metropolis of that country for which he had done so much, and the proposals that were issued for plans of the work, excited an unwonted stir of artistic emulation; it was an opportunity by which the fortunate candidate might link himself to the undying fame of the great poet and novelist. Fifty-four plans sent to the head-quarters of the committee of subscribers in Edinburgh were the fruits of this competition, of which plans there were twenty-two Gothic structures, eleven statues combined with architectural accompaniments, fourteen Grecian temples, five pillars, one obelisk, and one fountain. Amidst such a profusion the committee made no decisive choice; but, in terms of their agreement, they selected the best three for the prize of £50 a-piece, and laid themselves open for fresh competition. On the three designs thus distinguished above the rest, two were by eminent English architects, and the third by some individual who as yet had no name of his own, or was shy of bringing it into notice, for he signed himself John Morvo. Who was this John Morvo? It was no other than Kemp himself, who had thus come timidly forward, and secured a safe retreat in case of failure. In five days he had drawn the plan, during which period he had suspended his work on the model of the Glasgow Cathedral, with which he was at this period occupied; and as soon as it was done he resumed his labour, apparently thinking no farther of a trial in which the chances were so hopelessly against him. In this mood he trudged home from Linlithgow on the evening of the day of decision, and on crossing his threshold was met by his wife, with news of the three lucky candidates, which she had learned from an acquaintance, and whose names she repeated. What a happy moment it must have been for both when the real John Morvo was revealed!


As the lists were now opened for a second trial, Kemp, animated by his late success, was ready to resume it with double ardour. His first plan had been a tall Gothic tower or spire, whose original conception and details he had adapted from Melrose Abbey, a structure the lines of which had been for years impressed upon his memory, and of which, also, three drawings that he had executed in 1830 first brought him into notice as an architect in the highest sense of the term. Adopting his earlier design as the groundwork, he now produced such an improvement upon it as secured for it the choice of the whole committee, with the exception of only two dissenting voices—one on the plea that Kemp was unknown, and the other that his plan was a plagiarism. The declaration, however, of the committee, that the "design was an imposing structure of 135 feet in height, of beautiful proportions, in strict conformity with the purity in taste and style of Melrose Abbey, from which it is in its details derived," and the attestation of Mr. Burn, who expressed to the committee "his great admiration of the elegance of Mr. Kemp’s design, its purity as a Gothic composition, and more particularly the constructive skill exhibited throughout in the combination of the graceful features of that style of architecture, in such a manner as to satisfy any professional man of the correctness of its principle, and the perfect solidity which it would possess when built"—these testimonies sufficed, in the first instance, to show that Mr. Kemp’s plan was a congenial inspiration, not a plagiarism, and that, if he was still unknown to the world, he ought to be so no longer. But who would now think of adducing such frivolous objections, with the testimony of the whole world against him? The Scott Monument has been visited from every land; engravings of it are diffused over the wide earth; and as long as it stands in its majestic and imposing beauty, the pilgrims of future centuries, who gaze upon it in silent admiration, will connect the name of its builder with the thought of him whom it commemorates.


Mr. Kemp had thus passed, by a single stride, from the condition of a humble mechanic to the highest rank in architectural talent and distinction; and having won such an elevation while life was still in its prime, a long perspective of professional achievements, and the rank and profit by which they would be accompanied, was naturally anticipated for him by his friends, and perhaps by himself also. The building, too, which he had planned, was rapidly rising from base to summit, while at each step the public eye detected some new beauty, and waited impatiently for the completion. But here the life of the artist was brought to a sudden and most disastrous termination. He had been absent from home, employed in matters connected with the structure; and, on the evening of the 6th of March, 1844, was returning to his dwelling at Morningside, through Fountainbridge, when, in consequence of the darkness of the night, he had diverged from the direct road, and fallen into the canal-basin at the opening. His body was found in the water several days afterwards, and the whole city, that had now learned to appreciate his excellence, bewailed the mournful event as a public calamity. It was intended to deposit his remains in the vault under the Scott Monument, as their fitting resting-place; but at the last hour this purpose was altered, and the interment took place in St. Cuthbert’s church-yard; while every street through which the funeral passed was crowded with spectators. Such was the end of this promising architect, when his first great work, now nearly completed, surpassed the latest and best of those of his contemporaries, and gave promise that architecture would no longer be classed among the artes perditae in Scotland. Mr. Kemp was married in September, 1832, to Miss Elizabeth Bonnar, sister to the eminent artist, Mr. William Bonnar. He left four children, two boys and two girls, three of whom survived him. His eldest son, a student of architecture, died in December, 1853, at the age of twenty. He was a youth of rare promise and amiable manners, inheriting all his father’s genius and enthusiasm for art.

A visit to Roslyn indeed!!


Much to keep you busy there

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