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Old 14-06-2018, 04:31 PM   #5701
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Yes corrida is ONE, but partitioning and sorting things is how our thought authorities managed to prevent the public from making connections, getting a wide overview and thus understanding how things really work.

Do you think that castration as a 'cure' for hernia was for people's healthcare ? Well that's what doctors used to do in the late 19th century along with blood-letting, mercury treatments and other abominations, until it's been time for a world trench-war to get rid of the undesirable populations that overcrowded all urban areas.

I read the thread about organ donation here, which lets you know how far men are able to go when it's for money or power. But there are some things we do everyday not knowing they're part of the same industry, and meat-eating I think is ONE... : )
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Old 14-06-2018, 04:52 PM   #5702
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surfsteve I've been a member here for over 10 years now. Believe me this is nothing new. David Icke's website tends to attract every Tom, Dick, and Harry who has an agenda to fulfill. You just gotta shut them down and call their crap the bullsh*t that it is.
I got no agenda to fulfill and you'll never be forced to become a vegetarian, so please calm down.


Or maybe someday after all...
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Old 15-06-2018, 12:27 PM   #5703
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I read a rather dark and quirky short story last night by Roal Dahl entitled "Pig". It his from his collection of adult short stories "Kiss Kiss" and could read as the vengeful vegan's tale. It is gruesome, graphic, grisly, macabre and morbid and may well put you off pork for life. There's a squeaky twist in this little piggy tale, but of course...I wouldn't dream of spoiling it for you...

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Old 15-06-2018, 08:53 PM   #5704
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We may and did find tons of medical arguments to advocate or condemn meat-eating while the moral/ethical side of it is most often sorted out in two words : good - evil. But what if we’re unknowingly being mind-manipulated by the diet we’re fed ?

Do you really think the gigantic livestock farming and slaughtering, meat processing and marketing industry that we Westerner set up in the late 19th century was unavoidable ? What if it had been ?

Someone(s) here pointed the huge waste produced by that industry which is now at feeding cows with their own bones, and if you don’t count those who never entered the circle, how many people in the Western world stepped away from meat-consumption to become vegetarian or vegan to this day ? I bet the sum of it all would largely prove it wasn’t necessary and that it should now stop, leaving room for small farming and ‘human’ slaughtering intended to those who want to keep eating meat.

I bet it would produce just enough for that use, but just like about oil, guns or drugs, the meat barons refuse to surrender the fortunes they’ve been making for decades, and that’s why they broadcasted things like this…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYQKUxfX-g

What does it mean ? The meat industry had a social and moral influence on our civilization, but what if it had been its very purpose ?
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Old 16-06-2018, 08:31 AM   #5705
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The meat industry like many others grew out of demand as the population grew and we became more affluent we could afford to buy more meat.
As we advanced we began to specialise, in what we did. Villages turned into towns. Towns into cities as such the general people no longer found it convenient to hunt and gather for their families. Farms grew to fill the gap both crop and animal farms.
We grow busier and busier so time for growing our own fruit and veg is limited. property sizes are shrinking making it harder to do as well.
What you suggest as a global con job to force people into being meat eaters is a long bow to draw. It would involve every country in the world taking part.
Do we eat too much meat probably, we certainly waste to much food overall much to keep prices up for profit. We all to often see stories of fruit left to rot on the trees vegetables dumped by the ton and yet we pay a ridicules price in the stores.
We are told we can not produce enough meat to feed us so research is being carried out on using insects to fill the protein gap.
There are many things wrong in this world poverty, Third world countries, war and aggression. There is enough money in this world to fix it but greed by a few stops it happening.
If you wish to be a Vegan more power to you, I suggest you try to focus on issues that have a real chance of making a difference like why we have homeless living on the streets etc.
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Old 16-06-2018, 11:24 AM   #5706
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First what you see in that propaganda TV clip is anything but humour. It’s weird and questioning but in no way ‘funny’, and that crap is what convinced me to post on this thread sharing my point about meat-eating in the meantime.

I don’t want to be a vegan forced to take pills and other supplements to make up for a lack of food, so let’s please make the difference between what I think is an extreme choice and the mere fact of not eating meat. Let’s quit purposely confusing vegetarianism with veganism just to frighten the meat eater with pictures like the ones posted on this thread. You never saw vegetarians getting ill because of their diet.

Now you can’t stay insensitive to the available images of what takes place in slaughterhouses. So can we do it otherwise ? Basically not, because killing is killing and death is death, be it to men or animals.

Did you know that back in the centuries, you could see a dog or a horse appear in a court and be judged for a crime against a human being ? Fact is there is no valuable reason to kill a living creature that be no threat for life on Earth. You may kill insects because having no other way to prevent them from causing damages, but what could a cow or a pig ever do to deserve dying ?

At least does ritual slaughtering include some kind of repentance for the killing, but we Westerner made sacrifice an industry.

Just found these two interesting pages on the Web where you may see the different versions issued of a same verse, and I remember having read somewhere the Genesis distorted as to make it say that all living creatures should serve as food for men. So it seems that not even our true religion was a valuable motivation to the gigantic slaughtering industry that we started about 2 centuries ago in Germany…

http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-24.htm
http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-29.htm

Again it neither was out of ‘compassion’ for the starving or the only way we could feed a whole population, that’s not true. Let’s honestly admit it was one of the first consumption goods of which fake need was instilled in the public for big money, same way as we were forced to use oil as a fuel because it would bring more benefits than any other available raw energy, and still does.
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Old 17-06-2018, 01:50 AM   #5707
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I got no agenda to fulfill and you'll never be forced to become a vegetarian, so please calm down.
But you do have an agenda to fulfill, hence your whole purpose of posting within this (particular) thread .


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And like clock work, here we are...again. Another plant eating fanatic who wishes to impose his Orwellian ideology on the rest of us.
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Old 17-06-2018, 07:15 PM   #5708
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I got a Norwegian ideology ??!


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