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Old 28-04-2011, 10:49 PM   #1
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Default lao tzu was right

being empty of yourself so that the tao can fill the void
being empty of yourself you cannot be attacked because you arent filled by you.
being as water as the tao passive yet filling all spaces, like water simply allowing yourself to flow into what spaces allow it.
not doing and all things are done, not designing the doing yet doing the tasks
not desiring the tao thus allowing it to manifest by not blocking it with desire


releasing all things thus having all things by having the tao.being in all things as the tao is in all things.
Not seeking to enlighten but allowing light to manifest.

I havent read the tao in 15 years, and upon rereading it I find I am in complete agreement with it.
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Old 28-04-2011, 10:59 PM   #2
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being empty of yourself so that the tao can fill the void
being empty of yourself you cannot be attacked because you arent filled by you.
being as water as the tao passive yet filling all spaces, like water simply allowing yourself to flow into what spaces allow it.
not doing and all things are done, not designing the doing yet doing the tasks
not desiring the tao thus allowing it to manifest by not blocking it with desire


releasing all things thus having all things by having the tao.being in all things as the tao is in all things.
Not seeking to enlighten but allowing light to manifest.

I havent read the tao in 15 years, and upon rereading it I find I am in complete agreement with it.
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The Tao is above existence and non-existence.
Existence is for men who use words
But the Tao does not use words.
It is as silent as a flower.
Words come from the Tao -- the Tao produces words,
But it does not use them


The great Tao flows everywhere,
to the left and to the right.
All things depend upon it to exist,
and it does not abandon them.
To its accomplishment it lays no claim.
It loves and nourishes all things,
But does not lord it over them.
-Laotse
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Old 28-04-2011, 11:20 PM   #3
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not designing the doing yet doing the tasks
I like the Tao but that line sounds like one of Stalins manifestos "for the people"
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Old 28-04-2011, 11:59 PM   #4
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I like the Tao but that line sounds like one of Stalins manifestos "for the people"
Its just my imperfect interpretation of doing by not doing.
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Old 29-04-2011, 01:58 AM   #5
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It's a beautiful thing the Tao Te Ching
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Old 29-04-2011, 02:36 AM   #6
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being empty of yourself so that the tao can fill the void
being empty of yourself you cannot be attacked because you arent filled by you.
being as water as the tao passive yet filling all spaces, like water simply allowing yourself to flow into what spaces allow it.
not doing and all things are done, not designing the doing yet doing the tasks
not desiring the tao thus allowing it to manifest by not blocking it with desire


releasing all things thus having all things by having the tao.being in all things as the tao is in all things.
Not seeking to enlighten but allowing light to manifest.

I havent read the tao in 15 years, and upon rereading it I find I am in complete agreement with it.
Thank you.
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Old 29-04-2011, 09:10 AM   #7
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I like the Tao too. Thanks for the reminder.

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Old 29-04-2011, 09:19 AM   #8
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i think this means that verndewd is no longer filled with hatred for alex jones...
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Old 29-04-2011, 10:09 AM   #9
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being empty of yourself so that the tao can fill the void
being empty of yourself you cannot be attacked because you arent filled by you.
being as water as the tao passive yet filling all spaces, like water simply allowing yourself to flow into what spaces allow it.
not doing and all things are done, not designing the doing yet doing the tasks
not desiring the tao thus allowing it to manifest by not blocking it with desire


releasing all things thus having all things by having the tao.being in all things as the tao is in all things.
Not seeking to enlighten but allowing light to manifest.

I havent read the tao in 15 years, and upon rereading it I find I am in complete agreement with it.

Agreed.
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Old 29-04-2011, 11:41 AM   #10
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Good stuff!
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This thread has prompted me to buy the following.






I'm not going to order them until I finish my other books
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Old 29-04-2011, 11:57 AM   #12
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Gotta love the old Asian wisdom of China, Tibet, Japan and India.
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Old 29-04-2011, 12:14 PM   #13
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being empty of yourself so that the tao can fill the void
being empty of yourself you cannot be attacked because you arent filled by you.
being as water as the tao passive yet filling all spaces, like water simply allowing yourself to flow into what spaces allow it.
not doing and all things are done, not designing the doing yet doing the tasks
not desiring the tao thus allowing it to manifest by not blocking it with desire


releasing all things thus having all things by having the tao.being in all things as the tao is in all things.
Not seeking to enlighten but allowing light to manifest.

I havent read the tao in 15 years, and upon rereading it I find I am in complete agreement with it.
the tao is magnificent. my favourite book is Tao: the Pathless Path by Osho.
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Old 29-04-2011, 02:40 PM   #14
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http://www.thebigview.com/download/t...llustrated.pdf
Tao Te Ching: Pdf, downloadable.

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The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the beginning of heaven and Earth.
The named is the mother of the ten thousand things.
Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one sees the manifestations.
These two spring from the same source but differ in name; this appears as darkness.
Darkness within darkness. The gate to all mystery.
1 passage. Can one not be intrigued.

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Old 29-04-2011, 02:51 PM   #15
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the tao is magnificent. my favourite book is Tao: the Pathless Path by Osho.
Will check that out. Thanx.
One series that has given me some joy is "The Tao Of Pooh" and "The Te of Piglet".


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Compounding any problem (or nonproblem) is the traditional Western response to difficulties real or imagined: the tendency to see them emotionally, perceiving them as threats to one’s personal survival – threats that must be fought tooth-and-nail to the bitter end. In the East, such an approach to life is considered rather immature. Overdoing it, you know; wasting energy. Or, as the Chinese saying puts it, “Painting legs on the snake.”

So in solving problems, one needs to know if they are problems. Is what appears at first to be bad truly bad? The following selected Taoist writings show the importance of that question. The first is our streamlined version of a story from the classic Huai-nan-tse:


An old man and his son lived in an abandoned fortress on the side of a hill. Their only possession of value was a horse.

One day, the horse ran away The neighbors came by to offer sympathy “That’s really bad!” they said. “How do you know?” asked the old man.

The next day the horse returned, bringing with it several wild horses. The old man and his son shut them all inside the gate. The neighbors hurried over. “That’s really good!” they said. “How do you know?” asked the old man.

The following day, the son tried riding one of the wild horses, fell off, and broke his leg. The neighbors came around as soon as they heard the news. “That’s really bad!” they said. “How do you know?” asked the old man.

The day after that, the army came through, forcing the local young men into service to fight a faraway battle against the northern barbarians. Many of them would never return. But the son couldn’t go, because he’d broken his leg.
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Old 29-04-2011, 05:18 PM   #16
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i think this means that verndewd is no longer filled with hatred for alex jones...
No I still dislike jones
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Old 30-04-2011, 12:42 PM   #17
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I have been consulting the I Ching for 20 years now. It is what helped me to break the hold of my ego.
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Old 30-04-2011, 04:27 PM   #18
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I have been consulting the I Ching for 20 years now. It is what helped me to break the hold of my ego.
I used that and runes for a while. Divination from external objects is kind of a mandate, when you start divining messages from everything around you you lose the need for I-ching divination.

My path is tao was interesting. Back when I first started reading this I was doing a lot of lsd and mushrooms , one trip/ vision I had was specifically of the tao as symbolized by the yin yang. I saw black and white in an eternal transformation from one to the other.
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I used that and runes for a while. Divination from external objects is kind of a mandate, when you start divining messages from everything around you you lose the need for I-ching divination.

My path is tao was interesting. Back when I first started reading this I was doing a lot of lsd and mushrooms , one trip/ vision I had was specifically of the tao as symbolized by the yin yang. I saw black and white in an eternal transformation from one to the other.
Reminds me of one of those experiences. Was sitting down, on a mountain. Panoramic view. Observed a cloud. The cloud transformed in to a giant face. Felt like it was the face of "god" at that moment. Hard to describe. It was as it was breathing. On breath out it was the face of joy and breath in was the face of pain. Or the other way around. The connection i felt was essential. Then a freind of mine interupted

This got me thinking years later, that the universe is as a lung. Breath out, breath in. Hardly original, whatever that is.
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Reminds me of one of those experiences. Was sitting down, on a mountain. Panoramic view. Observed a cloud. The cloud transformed in to a giant face. Felt like it was the face of "god" at that moment. Hard to describe. It was as it was breathing. On breath out it was the face of joy and breath in was the face of pain. Or the other way around. The connection i felt was essential. Then a freind of mine interupted

This got me thinking years later, that the universe is as a lung. Breath out, breath in. Hardly original, whatever that is.
cool metaphor.
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