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Old 03-05-2016, 09:30 PM   #21
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I totally agree waves. I've been seeing this unfold for a while. As soon as Cameron spoke to the UN about exytremism and conspiracy belief I knew this was going to unfold as part of their agenda.

Cameron is the beta test for the world perhaps.
this 'anti-semitism' row in the UK is a struggle over freedom of speech in the UK

If people fold on this one they will soon find that they are not allowed to talk about anything
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:47 AM   #22
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could be easy.

They will expect/try provoke a rabid reaction. They will get the public to do so by rabidising them on the issue. However deep calm, a loving attitude and focusing on calm, rational issues will take the ball game into a place most members of the public don't want to go. Make them question themselves and you've half won.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:31 AM   #23
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if what cameron intends does become law----all the consp forums will close
or else we all debate silly things like football and cooking car repairs etc
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Old 01-06-2016, 02:31 PM   #24
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Israel Demands World Internet Censorship
May 29, 2016 by Edward Morgan

The Israeli Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan has unveiled plans to censor the Internet’s worldwide social media platforms with the building of an “international coalition” to counter criticism of Israel. European countries,” most of which “are very interested in this idea.”

The legislation would have common features, such as defining what constitutes incitement and what the responsibilities of social networks regarding it are, a spokesman for the minister told the Israeli-based newspaper. “Companies that do not comply will find themselves hauled into court, paying a penalty,” he added.



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Old 04-06-2016, 08:16 PM   #25
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The European Commission Wants You to Log into Social Media Accounts With Govt Issued ID Cards
By Editor on June 2, 2016

The EU is out of control. Americans, read up on what is going on in the European Union. I implore you. We can only pray that the UK turns its back on this system of hyper-cronyism.

(From Breitbart)

The European Commission plans to attack citizens’ right to online privacy, insisting that state-issued ID cards should be used to log into platforms such as YouTube, Facebook, and even Uber.

The Vice President for the Digital Single Market on the European Commission, former Communist Andrus Ansip, is behind the next European Union (EU) raid on personal freedoms, promoting the idea of using national ID cards to log in to online services.

Leaked documents from within the European Commission revealed a call for the roll out of a more extensive use of national ID cards across the EU. The documents have since beenuploaded to the Commission’s own website…

…“Calling on us to log onto YouTube with national IDs etc shows a direction of travel which should worry anybody who believes in personal liberty,” said Ms. James, adding: “Voting Leave in this Brexit Referendum is our way to shout “Stop” and put an end to this madness.”

Don’t let the bureaucrats do this to you Europe. You gave us the Renaissance. Don’t let the apparatchiks, the authoritarians, turn out the light.

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Old 06-10-2016, 04:38 PM   #26
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Google’s Jigsaw: Undermining Alternative Media

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Wont they be able to track your MAC address? did you register your ipad? if so they may still be able to make the link.
yes, the MAC address would be track-able and it is registered.

I guess the best way to remain most anonymous would be to buy one in cash just to use purely for internet browsing. Enter no ownership details and don't link or sync it to any pre-existing account.
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:27 PM   #28
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yes, the MAC address would be track-able and it is registered.

I guess the best way to remain most anonymous would be to buy one in cash just to use purely for internet browsing. Enter no ownership details and don't link or sync it to any pre-existing account.
Cant you use a TOR browser?
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:54 AM   #29
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Newsweek Expose: NATO’s Vast Cyber Troll Brigades Unleashed
6.10.2016 Author: Phil Butler

Trolls, trolls, trolls! Western mainstream media is made up of Uber-trolls trained to point a finger and to shout a warning, TROLL! Reading the news in English each day is for me, a bit like a nightmarish version of the bedtime story, The Boy Who Cried Wolf, only with the boy being the wolf. A story on Newsweek this week is a perfect example of all that is wrong with media these days.

What if the CIA or the Pentagon could just disseminate propaganda using the “Freedom of the Press”? What if every message a nation heard led to the formulation of a derisive, dastardly, and disastrous conclusion? Why this would be a dangerous truth, now wouldn’t it?

The Atlantic Council is a Washington think tank that manages ten regional centers and functional programs related to international security and global economic prosperity. Its stated mission has been to, “encourage the continuation of cooperation between North America and Europe that began after World War II”. Regardless of whatever else the Atlantic Council ever did, when former chairman James L. Jones stepped down in order to serve as President Obama’s new National Security Advisor, the subversive and secret mission of the council was illuminated. In fact, the Obama administration security and policy team is made up of half a dozen members of the council, and former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, and Chuck Hagel owe allegiance as well. The fact the Atlantic Council is a “spook” nest, and the revelations that the council is funded by nations abroad are common knowledge. What most people do not realize is how vast is the reach of these “thinkers” ideas.

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In their dystopian future one simply cannot trust anyone who has sworn allegiance to any secret societies, their oaths are their bond away from reality.

And don't forget to say, Hello GCHQ, thanks for watching at the end of every message.
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Cant you use a TOR browser?
I dont think you can in here.
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Really? I've never tried them myself but thought they were used just like any other browser
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Seems there are a few TOR browsers available on iOS. I'm going to look into them.
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Posted on October 10, 2016 by Rick Falkvinge
In the UK, running a blog over HTTPS is an act of terrorism, says Scotland Yard

In a bizarre case, Scotland Yard is accusing a person for six separate acts of preparing terrorism. Those six acts include researching encryption, developing an “encrypted version” of his blog, and instructing others how to use encryption.

This is one of those cases where you do a double take. As reported by Ars Technica, UK’s Scotland Yard is charging a Cardiff person with preparing for terrorism – but the list of charges shows activities we associate with very ordinary precautionary privacy measures. “Developing an encrypted version of a blog” can be read as, and probably means, publishing it over HTTPS – such as this blog and many others, simply because it’s considered best practice.

He was also charged with having a flash drive in a cufflink with a bootable operating system, presumably Tails. Using open and free operating systems with the capacity for general-purpose encryption is now an act of terrorism?
https://www.privateinternetaccess.co...scotland-yard/
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In the UK, running a blog over HTTPS is an act of terrorism, says Scotland Yard

In a bizarre case, Scotland Yard is accusing a person for six separate acts of preparing terrorism. Those six acts include researching encryption, developing an “encrypted version” of his blog, and instructing others how to use encryption.

This is one of those cases where you do a double take. As reported by Ars Technica, UK’s Scotland Yard is charging a Cardiff person with preparing for terrorism – but the list of charges shows activities we associate with very ordinary precautionary privacy measures. “Developing an encrypted version of a blog” can be read as, and probably means, publishing it over HTTPS – such as this blog and many others, simply because it’s considered best practice.

He was also charged with having a flash drive in a cufflink with a bootable operating system, presumably Tails. Using open and free operating systems with the capacity for general-purpose encryption is now an act of terrorism?
https://www.privateinternetaccess.co...scotland-yard/
Things are going to get a whole load worse when the Snoopers Charter gains Royal Assent. It enters the Report Stage in the Lords today, with only two steps remaining.
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As we near the end of their yellow brick road, the very best use for forums such as this is, one for educating others how to create the futures they need to create.

Skills programs will be in demand as ours are being taken from us, this is what we can do without needing diplomas and degrees, then we will be more in charge of our own hands and what they create.

This kind of system is self governing and takes away control by the few and puts it into the hands of the many.

Because our futures depend upon the things we create, and we live and die by the things we make.

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Old 11-10-2016, 10:24 PM   #37
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Things are going to get a whole load worse when the Snoopers Charter gains Royal Assent. It enters the Report Stage in the Lords today, with only two steps remaining.
they are doing iot anyway...but now they want to make it legal....which means they can admit they're spying on us and convict people for being politically incorrect (whatever they deem incorrect at any given point)

Shami Chakrabarti and Jeremy Corbyn were the loudest critics of the Snooper’s Charter – but now theyre in power, they’ve gone quiet

Theresa May’s first attempt to spy on us began in 2012. Four years on, it looks as though she has finally ground Parliament into submission. No wonder voters are so cynical

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In the coming fortnight, the illiberal Investigatory Powers Bill will pass through Parliament, making it easier for the British Government to spy on citizens entirely innocent of any crime.

The bill will allow the Government to hand UK tech firms top-secret notices to hack their customers; the police will be able to look at your internet browsing history, and your personal data will be tied together so the state can find out if you’ve attended a protest, who your friends are, and where you live. The most authoritarian piece of spying legislation any democratic government has ever proposed has sped through Parliament with only a whimper of opposition.

....Shami Chakrabarti is now the shadow Attorney General, the law officer for Her Majesty’s Opposition. The two politicians who had been spied on, Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott, are now the Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition and shadow Home Secretary, respectively.

You would think that given three of the most high-profile figures to oppose state snooping were now at the very top of the Labour Party, the opposition would be tearing the Government apart.

Not quite. Instead, it was announced yesterday that Labour would neither be tabling major amendments to the legislation in the House of Lords to make it fit for purpose, but – worse – nor would the party be voting against the new powers contained in the bill.

Chakrabarti is Labour’s law officer. Just months ago, the human rights group she ran argued that the “proposed new law breaches our human rights”. If this is the case, how on earth can she stay quiet while Labour abstains?

Across the Western world, faith in politicians from across the political spectrum is ebbing away. Instead, populists such as Donald Trump tell us the elites are lying and that politicians say one thing and do another. Yet when politicians who do genuinely oppose intrusive surveillance powers stay quiet in the face of draconian legislation, it feeds conspiracy theories that democracy is a fix.

If social democrats are too frightened to stand up for what they believe in, then why bother voting for them? Jeremy Corbyn was re-elected by Labour members who wanted to see the party change direction. It’s hard to see how giving the Tories a free pass to give the state unjustified powers is part of that mandate.
read on here: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7355301.html
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Cracking article that, with a scary last line:

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British spy powers threaten freedom of expression, UN told
Published time: 11 Oct, 2016 13:27
Edited time: 11 Oct, 2016 13:28

Human rights groups warned the United Nations this week that a new British law allowing police to see journalists’ communications could threaten sensitive sources and the freedom of expression.

The English Pen writers association and the freedom of speech group Article 19 told the UN Human Rights Council that the Investigatory Powers Bill would jeopardize journalistic sources, particularly whistleblowers.

https://www.rt.com/uk/362368-snooper...ampaign=chrome
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I've been thinking about that last line from the Mike Harris article...

I reckon the next thing will be some sort of mandatory universal login to ensure things posted on the internet can be better traced to an individual.

As thorough a spying tool as the IP Act will be, it still has a fundamental flaw in that it's extremely difficult (if not impossible) to prove which person was using any given piece of equipment at any particular time.

I could very easily use an ipad (for example) that belonged to someone else in the household to post some offensive material.

TPTB have no way to prove that the owner of that equipment made that post. They could make inferrence (and probably would) to say that "well, the post was made from your ipad, so you must have made it" in which case, and innocent person would be in very big trouble.

A universal, personal ID used to login would go some way to irradiate this issue...
as long as everyone kept their credentials top secret!

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