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Old 05-07-2018, 10:03 PM   #41
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I think these two are gonna die. They could'nt kill the scripuls as at last the daughter was a Russion citizen and they would cause an international crissis. bumping off a couple of herowin adicts however is nothing to whoever oristrated this fiasco.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:05 PM   #42
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Can it persist out doors and if so for how long?
It cant cope with baby wipes so the question should be has the weather been dry since the last attack. Or are you wrong to assume the toxin was ever outside.


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Old 05-07-2018, 11:21 PM   #43
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Home Secretary Sajid Javid said the nerve agent was the same as that used on ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter in March.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44727191
There you go.
If anything, the above sentence is constructed very vaguely and open to many interpretation imo.
How can he say such thing when UK has no sample stock? Think about that....

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Mr Javid accused Russia of using Britain as a "dumping ground for poison" after the second incident involving the nerve agent.
Finger pointing. Of course, it's the Russians.

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He said the most likely hypothesis was the Novichok was left over from an item discarded after the attack on the Skripals.
But this is not possible. As if the substance remains potent after 3 months? Forgetting the fact about a half-life?

Then they bring the expert who says...
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Toxicologist Prof Alastair Hay said it would be possible for Novichok to still be dangerous four months after first use.
Who is this Prof Hay? Obviously, BBC read our thread and had to patch up the story.

What's strange though.... the guy explaining how it happened.
Surely, there must have been other people who have fell ill with similar circumstance but they immediately linked this incident to nerve agent.

"They got infected next day" <-LOL The agent is so strong that it takes 24 hrs for it to work....Really?!
Funny that eh?
I'm watching his micro expression now.

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Old 06-07-2018, 06:20 AM   #44
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I'm sure I started this thread?hhhmmm Russian manipulation?????
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:05 AM   #45
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There are some gems right here #novichok. https://twitter.com/hashtag/Novichok...ok-amesbury%2F
Not sure the MSM can pull this lot back.
Particularly like this tweet.


"Homeless registered heroin addict living in expensive house, poisoned by novichock a few miles from chemical warfare establishment Porton Down .." something's not quite right here #Salisbury #Amesbury #novichok
8 replies 42 retweets 52 likes


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Hmmmm….maybe this is the source of the novichock that poisoned the skripals?

Then there is this if true....

'SHE'S DOING WELL' Novichok victim Yulia Skripal ‘intends to return to Russia soon’ even after two more poisoned with same nerve agent in Amesbury

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/669982...ssia-novichok/


She must hate Putin. lol
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:12 AM   #46
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Homeless registered heroin addict living in expensive house
Sounds like the perfect cover for any kind of MI5 agent.
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:24 AM   #47
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Don't you find it really strange how they have come to this conclusion that their condition is because of the nerve agent? If the pair is addict, the first thing I'd suspect is contaminated, lower grade drug and not the nerve agent in a contained space. I mean, how did it get there? In a shopping bag? Then why the shop staff didn't collapse?! Anyways, the pair don't look like a druggy to me. If she's injecting, she wouldn't be showing her arms by wearing a summer dress anyway.

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The item was unlikely to have been left in the open before they touched it, a government scientist has told BBC News.

Novichok can be degraded by rainwater and sunlight over time - meaning it was probably discovered by the pair in a contained space, the source added.

But other experts have said the nerve agent was designed to be persistent and not break down.
So BBC keep adding the answer we have been raising. Good to see they follow DIF.

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The two men returned to the flat and planned to visit the hospital but Mr Rowley "started feeling really hot and sweaty" and began "acting all funny", Mr Hobson, 29, said.
Funny that. I have been feeling Hot and Sweaty for a number of days now.

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Old 06-07-2018, 11:44 AM   #48
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Don't you find it really strange how they have come to this conclusion that their condition is because of the nerve agent? If the pair is addict, the first thing I'd suspect is contaminated, lower grade drug and not the nerve agent in a contained space. I mean, how did it get there? In a shopping bag? Then why the shop staff didn't collapse?! Anyways, the pair don't look like a druggy to me. If she's injecting, she wouldn't be showing her arms by wearing a summer dress anyway.


So BBC keep adding the answer we have been raising. Good to see they follow DIF.


Funny that. I have been feeling Hot and Sweaty for a number of days now.
I think another question that needs answering :-
If this couple lived in any other area would they have been tested or novochoc?
If someone falls ill and goes to a&e, they will think it an infection and look the cause.. I have lots of first hand experience with this lately.
I think looking for novochoc would come well after a shitload of other tests were carried out prior
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:53 AM   #49
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"Home Secretary Sajid Javid said the nerve agent was the same as that used on ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter in March."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44727191



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'Sadiq Khan gives the green light to 'Angry baby' balloon to fly over London during US president's stay...'

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Old 06-07-2018, 12:24 PM   #50
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Does anyone know what Novichok is derived from.
It dont half sound like nicotine rebranded to me.
Both degrade in sunlight and diluting rapidly diminishes there potency.
The Russians can deliver a fatal dose of ricin the size of a pinhead https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/215...estigated.html yet this novichok requires viles pointing to milliliters are required.
Ill have a go at comparing nicotine thats legal to own and buy over the internet vs novichok which I know nothing about except its supposedly military grade, a small vile of it will make you critically ill but no necessarily kill you.
The most potent nicotine you can posses in the uk is 7.2% pure thats 72mg/ml. A lethal dose is said to be between 60 and 100mg. So there is loads of scope right there to weaponize nicotine. Not weaponized if you was to have a milliliter come in contact with your skin you would be hospitalized if you did not rinse it off and allowed it to soak in.
Novichok appears to have the deadly potency of uk legal nicotine.



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Old 06-07-2018, 12:52 PM   #51
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Amesbury: Two collapse near Russian spy poisoning site

So many sections in the DI forum where this would be appropriate.

Anyway, time to let rip in the conspirasphere and come up with some bizarre theories before the facts are known or released.

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Old 08-07-2018, 12:25 AM   #52
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Can someone tell me why the government is buying Skripals house?

When the other Russian agent was poisoned by Polonium-210, they didn't buy that sushi place Itsu.

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Old 09-07-2018, 02:34 AM   #53
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"Home Secretary Sajid Javid said the nerve agent was the same as that used on ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter in March."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44727191



All you need to know about Sadiq Khan

'Sadiq Khan gives the green light to 'Angry baby' balloon to fly over London during US president's stay...'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8433121.html

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Old 09-07-2018, 04:37 AM   #54
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That photo does not show Yulia Skripal. It shows Dawn Sturgess. She died (was killed) today. Sturgess and her boyfriend work for MI5.







https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/574293...were-poisoned/

Now we know about who the blonde woman obviously was.

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Cops hunt blonde woman seen on CCTV 20 mins before ex-Russian spy spy Sergei Skripal and daughter Yulia were poisoned

Initially it was thought the film was of former double agent Skripal and Yulia, who were out having a meal in Salisbury, Wilts but witnesses insist Yulia had 'reddish brown hair'

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Old 09-07-2018, 09:12 AM   #55
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good spot blue
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:13 AM   #56
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Does anybody know why Muggleton road in Amesbury (the property of her boyfriend where they were found) does not exist on google maps?

usually google is alwaya up to date with streets!
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:27 AM   #57
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Brill bluebird !! Guess Dawn is now on all expences paid holiday now thnx to uk taxpayers ..she not Dead . Media and UK Gov having fun with this ...All because of Russia holding World Cup ??
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Muggleton .."MUGGLES" ..Harry Potter.. Fiction ??
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:46 AM   #59
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Does anybody know why Muggleton road in Amesbury (the property of her boyfriend where they were found) does not exist on google maps?

usually google is alwaya up to date with streets!
Did the journalist spell it correct though?

Well done blue, you've just won the 'Spot The Difference' prize.
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:50 AM   #60
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Did the journalist spell it correct though?

Well done blue, you've just won the 'Spot The Difference' prize.
the street seems to exist ... but not on google maps.

https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/...uggleton-road/
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