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Old 05-11-2016, 02:46 PM   #181
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One thing that really stood out about DT was when a woman in San Francisco was knifed to death by an illegal right around the time DT started campaigning. The family was grieving the loss of their loved one and DT used the tragedy to push his agenda. The timing of it all was no coincidence IMO and it wasn't just some random crime, but a very strategic crime involving a system-bred psychopath. The attack on that woman brought the whole illegal immigration problem to the forefront and Trump used it to push an agenda and the victim's family called him out on it and did not want her death used as propaganda. After that happened Trump recoiled and proceeded by playing it cool. He's holding back a lot and trying to "get down" with the everyday people and putting on an innocent face like he's just a hard working American businessman wanting to make America great again.It's bullshit,but he has succeeded at fooling a lot of people.
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:07 PM   #182
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One thing that really stood out about DT was when a woman in San Francisco was knifed to death by an illegal right around the time DT started campaigning. The family was grieving the loss of their loved one and DT used the tragedy to push his agenda. The timing of it all was no coincidence IMO and it wasn't just some random crime, but a very strategic crime involving a system-bred psychopath. The attack on that woman brought the whole illegal immigration problem to the forefront and Trump used it to push an agenda and the victim's family called him out on it and did not want her death used as propaganda. After that happened Trump recoiled and proceeded by playing it cool. He's holding back a lot and trying to "get down" with the everyday people and putting on an innocent face like he's just a hard working American businessman wanting to make America great again.It's bullshit,but he has succeeded at fooling a lot of people.
So you think that Hillary is a better choice? Because ultimately- rightly or wrongly- that is the choice. Personally I can't fault someone for highlighting the problems that arise as a consequence of illegal immigration- sadly, it's reality. I agree that people shouldn't be used as political weapons but at the same time should her death just go in vain? Be forgotten in the name of political correctness? If it was a member of your family, murdered by someone who by rights shouldn't have even been in the country at all- would you say NOTHING?

I like you LavenderSky so this isn't a personal attack at all, just a point of contention.
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:37 PM   #183
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So you think that Hillary is a better choice? Because ultimately- rightly or wrongly- that is the choice. Personally I can't fault someone for highlighting the problems that arise as a consequence of illegal immigration- sadly, it's reality. I agree that people shouldn't be used as political weapons but at the same time should her death just go in vain? Be forgotten in the name of political correctness? If it was a member of your family, murdered by someone who by rights shouldn't have even been in the country at all- would you say NOTHING?
No, I don't think Hillary is a better choice.I cannot stand her. But they are playing the good vs. evil game and either way it goes it is meant to deceive and dominate the masses. The radical left has pissed so many people off with their "anything goes-do it if it feels good" way of thinking and the perversion of basic beliefs many hold dear, so much that people are begging for a more conservative way of life. They want the iron fist to come down even if it means surrendering their cherished freedoms. They want protection from the boogeymen crawling out of every corner and preying on their families. Right now the world is being invaded by system bred psychopaths that have helped steer all of this with their fear mongering. More federal intervention and surveillance is on it's way to "protect" the citizens from the psychos it bred and possibly women having no choice but to cover up from head to toe because these psychopaths cannot resist even the slightest bit of flesh!

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I like you LavenderSky so this isn't a personal attack at all, just a point of contention.
No probs. We all have our personal views and angles from which interpret things
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:55 PM   #184
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No, I don't think Hillary is a better choice.I cannot stand her. But they are playing the good vs. evil game and either way it goes it is meant to deceive and dominate the masses. The radical left has pissed so many people off with their "anything goes-do it if it feels good" way of thinking and the perversion of basic beliefs many hold dear, so much that people are begging for a more conservative way of life. They want the iron fist to come down even if it means surrendering their cherished freedoms. They want protection from the boogeymen crawling out of every corner and preying on their families. Right now the world is being invaded by system bred psychopaths that have helped steer all of this with their fear mongering. More federal intervention and surveillance is on it's way to "protect" the citizens from the psychos it bred and possibly women having no choice but to cover up from head to toe because these psychopaths cannot resist even the slightest bit of flesh!

No probs. We all have our personal views and angles from which interpret things
I'm not denying that we're seeing a Hegelian dialectic playing out- not at all. But we know what the problem is. What reaction is most appropriate in terms of the solution?
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:29 PM   #185
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One thing that really stood out about DT was when a woman in San Francisco was knifed to death by an illegal right around the time DT started campaigning. The family was grieving the loss of their loved one and DT used the tragedy to push his agenda. The timing of it all was no coincidence IMO and it wasn't just some random crime, but a very strategic crime involving a system-bred psychopath. The attack on that woman brought the whole illegal immigration problem to the forefront and Trump used it to push an agenda and the victim's family called him out on it and did not want her death used as propaganda. After that happened Trump recoiled and proceeded by playing it cool. He's holding back a lot and trying to "get down" with the everyday people and putting on an innocent face like he's just a hard working American businessman wanting to make America great again.It's bullshit,but he has succeeded at fooling a lot of people.
A Governments primary responsibility is the safety of it's citizens above all other considerations. Thousands of American citizens have been killed by illegal aliens. Someone running for office is not pushing an "agenda" by pointing this out and saying he is going to stop it, that's his job if elected. The people who are pushing an agenda are the ones trying to cover up for illegal immigration and not attempting to prevent it.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:52 AM   #186
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A Governments primary responsibility is the safety of it's citizens above all other considerations. Thousands of American citizens have been killed by illegal aliens. Someone running for office is not pushing an "agenda" by pointing this out and saying he is going to stop it, that's his job if elected. The people who are pushing an agenda are the ones trying to cover up for illegal immigration and not attempting to prevent it.
Why not bring some facts and statistics as to how many murders per year are carried out by immigrants as opposed to US citizens. Until then all you are doing is just useless talk. Trump exploited that woman's death for political points, it is disgusting, and the woman's family even called him out.
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Old 06-11-2016, 05:08 AM   #187
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Why does a black supremacist cult support Donald Trump ?

Why does the Trump campaign run by the Council for National Policy have these black supremacists always in the background of Trump speeches ?

What is the agenda here ? Strange bedfellows no ?



Here is the cults website

http://gods2.com/

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Old 06-11-2016, 07:08 AM   #188
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It's all people who lives fooling the bollocks. I don't know if it is part of some specific agenda, but surely it needs to bring how much people as possible as to vote the testimonial.

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Old 06-11-2016, 02:30 PM   #189
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I'm not denying that we're seeing a Hegelian dialectic playing out- not at all. But we know what the problem is. What reaction is most appropriate in terms of the solution?
For real change to happen we have to take a leap of faith and be willing to see the world in a different way. I think most people want change but they don't want to let go of the things they are most comfortable with. With every election people believe there will be change but it is never really change, just another illusion to make us believe things are changing. Maybe it all comes down to how badly we want it. Is our will to end the chaos and suffering of the world greater than the elite's will to keep it all going?
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Old 06-11-2016, 02:42 PM   #190
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For real change to happen we have to take a leap of faith and be willing to see the world in a different way. I think most people want change but they don't want to let go of the things they are most comfortable with. With every election people believe there will be change but it is never really change, just another illusion to make us believe things are changing. Maybe it all comes down to how badly we want it. Is our will to end the chaos and suffering of the world greater than the elite's will to keep it all going?

I'm quite old.
Seen a lot of changes, many of them for the better.
Democratic politics can improve society. It aint perfect but the alternatives are a lot worse.
Somebody on here the other day was wishing for 'enlightened people' to run the show.
That'd work!
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Old 06-11-2016, 02:48 PM   #191
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Sorry, I basically answered my own question in the last post. The elites will to remain in control is greater than the people's will for change because the people are afraid to let go of the things/beliefs they are comfortable with. If people would take a leap of faith and open themselves to the same understanding of the world the elite use to control us then I believe this would all end very quickly.
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Sorry, I basically answered my own question in the last post. The elites will to remain in control is greater than the people's will for change because the people are afraid to let go of the things/beliefs they are comfortable with. If people would take a leap of faith and open themselves to the same understanding of the world the elite use to control us then I believe this would all end very quickly.
There's a thing in Eastern martial arts, where you use the energy of the enemy and throw it against them. Might be something in that.

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There's a thing in Eastern martial arts, where you use the energy of the enemy and throw it against them. Might be something in that.

Peace.
That kinda works in MA by redirecting an opposing force.
The attacker still 'owns' the force s/he is using against you but ends up on his or her erse.
Say, for example; somebody aims a kick at you. If you can catch their ankle with your own foot or a hand and then lift it ever so slightly.
They fall backwards.

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Why does a black supremacist cult support Donald Trump ?

Why does the Trump campaign run by the Council for National Policy have these black supremacists always in the background of Trump speeches ?

What is the agenda here ? Strange bedfellows no ?



Here is the cults website

http://gods2.com/
When you click on the link it says "Blacks, Latins and whites must unite" how does that make them a black supremacist cult ?

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Why not bring some facts and statistics as to how many murders per year are carried out by immigrants as opposed to US citizens. Until then all you are doing is just useless talk. Trump exploited that woman's death for political points, it is disgusting, and the woman's family even called him out.
Again he is not exploiting anything, he is doing his job. The people who really killled that woman and the thousands of others are the politicians who have deliberately ignored and even encouraged illegal immigration. One day if there is any justice in the world they will be brought to task for their crimes.
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