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Old 16-01-2017, 04:57 PM   #1
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'The Astral' about to be Closed Down?

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Apparently, the astral, as we know it, is the result of an original configuration error in deeper consciousness itself, in which what was meant to be a 'system-reserved' area of consciousness for use by subconscious processes only had been left accessible to people's ordinary minds, which latter perceived it as some sort of strange alternative reality and then got immediately corrupting its contents because they got using it, without knowing anything about its true nature and purpose.

It has been like a person happily using the system-reserved partition on his computer's system drive for his own purposes and so snarling up the computer. No wonder, then, that so much trouble constantly emanates from the astral, and also, no wonder that Humanity is in such a morass of dysfunction!

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If that is indeed happening, the consequences would be unprecedented and mind-bogglingly huge, yet totally positive, even though there may well be some initial brief destabilization issues before the relevant people have 'woken up' sufficiently to avoid such nonsenses in future. People worldwide would become much happier in healthy ways, and much more rational (e.g., wars would progressively phase out), and so-called 'mental health' issues would rapidly decline to an eventual virtual zero (apart from the results of the odd traumas and physical issues / injuries, of course).

In the shorter term, apparently a series of universally operating preparatory changes are being implemented, mostly in a staggered fashion to ensure that the overall change that people experience is reasonably progressive before the final closing-off of 'the astral' from all people's minds, so that there would be a minimum of disruptive 'rude shocks'.
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Who's doing the closing down?

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Who is implementing the universally operating preparatory changes? Where do they get the right to do this?
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Who's doing the closing down?

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Last time this was posted, I'm sure it was Obama.
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According to the author, there would be many benefits. The things to look out for as the Astral starts closing down would include:

https://www.clarity-of-being.org/ast...o_look_out_for

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* A much greater and relatively stable feeling of security and well-being - but not to be confused with dramatically 'wonderful' feelings, which might arise initially in response to this or certain other changes in this list. Such 'wonderful' feelings actually represent a temporary state of emotional imbalance, and are an indication of need to reground one's awareness.

* No more strong and sustained painful emotions, whether from garbage attack or any other cause.

* Very possibly a relatively speedy reduction or indeed cessation of the horrific activities of the various religious extremist / terrorist factions.

* Progressive weakening of addictive and habit-forming tendencies.

* Progressive weakening of rigid, pattern-based outlooks and behaviours of all sorts, including the urge to attempt to live in line with a false self-image and project that false image to others. Stereotypes would steadily dissolve.

* Progressive weakening of harmful social attitudes such as the so-called 'Christian work ethic'. A properly functioning human does not need such oppressive control agendas to motivate him to work for the good of others as well as himself.

* Progressive weakening of the deeply ingrained fear of being true to oneself - and thus a weakening of the 'sheep' mindset; people would live increasingly authentically.

* A progressive weakening of people's fixation on belief as the basis of their life experience - and a consequent weakening of their attachment to religion or any form of 'spirituality'.

* A gradual opening and broadening of even 'ordinary' people's outlooks, with increasing tolerance of others with differing lifestyles.

* A probably gradual but possibly rapid general lessening of the motivation for hostility and open war in attempts to resolve disputes - without prejudice to being prepared to use force where it really is required for the good of all.

* Cessation of certain physical issues such as chronic anal constriction and constriction of the prostate (often leading to unnecessary surgery for prostate enlargement), and 'stiff neck' issues including 'tension headache'.

* A progressive reduction in numbers of 'mental health' (i.e., psychiatric) patients, with less admissions and more spontaneous recoveries of extant patients; probably a quite drastic reduction in crisis cases, so probably crisis services, including the Samaritans organization, would experience a particularly dramatic reduction in calls for assistance.

* Progressive weakening of current fixation on having close relationships, whether married or not married, and a particular decline in fixation on supposed soul mate or 'twin flame' relationships.
All-in-all, people would progressively become more rational, i.e., in an aware and humanitarian way - that having great positive implications for political and international issues as well as each person's personal life.

* Eventually, cessation of all astral-sourced phenomena, including all the garbage manifestations (e.g., attacks, hell experiences, 'voices' or other communications, apparitions of non-physical beings). All genuine clairvoyance and channelling would stop, but energy testing as presented on this site would become much more effective because of the lack of garbage interference any more. Theoretically, all those cessations would be the key indicator of the astral having become inaccessible to our 'ordinary minds', but, as I have already intimated, it is possible that the garbage would already be more or less inoperative by the time the astral is closed off from our 'ordinary minds'.
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Who is implementing the universally operating preparatory changes? Where do they get the right to do this?
Who's got the authority to keep the Astral open? Who would be responsible for stopping these changes?
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Who's doing the closing down?
Good question. The author has a FAZ with the following question:

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What right have you to interfere with my free choice to live the way I want?!!

https://www.clarity-of-being.org/ast...right_have_you

Any such question is completely redundant, because I am not interfering with anyone's free choice - that is, any more than people are generally interfering with each others' free choice, and indeed less so than many! What I have recounted further above has been simply my gaining certain insights, which apparently resulted in an immediate very positive response by deeper consciousness itself towards at last rectifying the mind-numbingly long-standing dreadful great 'astral' and garbage problem. So, anyone who is angry or upset about what is or may be happening would need to direct their protests to deeper consciousness itself (i.e., through their own deepest aspects), not to this funny little man here!

In any case, people generally have great (garbage-sourced) confusions about the meaning and nature of 'free choice'. Total free choice is a meaningless concept, for the very existence of other people, and indeed the presence of physical surroundings at all, greatly restricts one's freedom of choice to start with, even if everyone is seeking to minimize the extent to which they impact on others' freedom of choice. There is a widely-held garbage-sourced serious distortion much in vogue, to the effect that the correct attitude for everyone is 'each to his own', and also the related notion that 'we each create our own realities', and therefore, that everyone has a fundamental right to 'do their own thing' without regard to what is really going on for them, and should fully mind their own business with regard to what is going on for anyone else. So, apparently, if a person chooses to stay in prison or behave in antisocial ways, (s)he is entitled to do so without significant interference from others - even though their behaviour would generally be having harmful impacts for other people and the community at large (such as causing overloading of health and social services, and indeed prisons).

Well, the garbage has virtually everyone on the planet more or less imprisoned and to various extents moronic and puppet-like (though of course the moronic and the puppet-like do not see themselves as such at all!), and, yes, they have a fundamental right to remain imprisoned like that, do they? ... - Well, do they...?

No, they do NOT - even in the slightest degree! Many a drug addict, such as a smoker or regular drinker will claim that he has a right to continue his addiction, supposedly because he 'enjoys' it (Sod the taxpayer who has to pick up the bill for all the medical care necessitated by his thoughtless behaviour!). But that is not at all the voice of the human but the voice of the addiction, and, indirectly, of the garbage, which is controlling him to keep him in that addiction. It is always a pressing need for ALL such people to be taken out of their imprisonment - even dragged out kicking and screaming! - so that at last they can start experiencing some genuine free choice of their own instead of their operating as mere puppets of an interfering and controlling influence. Similarly with all people on the planet. The big change, if it really does come about, would greatly increase, not decrease, people's freedom of choice because they would at long last be free of their garbage interferences and control. They really do have NO right nor opportunity at all to opt out, nor any right to appeal against that increase in their freedom, if it indeed happens - the poor things!
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Another question from the author's FAQ:
Won't this change cause great strife and turmoil?

Naturally, if it happens at all, this would be totally unprecedented, and so just how much strife would be caused is particularly difficult to forecast. Any attempt at prediction could not be much better than pure guesswork. My own speculative guess is that on a small and especially interpersonal level there would initially be a lot of quite interesting ructions and gnashings and wailings, for people's outlooks would be beginning to change and the vast majority would not have a clue what all that is about, and what is happening to them. All manner of people's close relationships would get more and more strained and break up because they had been unhealthy relationships from day one, which were based in particular emotional issues and garbage interferences that were now either ceased or on the decline.

Yes, and just think of more and more members of a certain widespread religion (not mentioning which!) who would 'wake up' enough to ditch the religion, only to find themselves to be at the very least social outcasts and even under threat of death - just for becoming self-honest enough to get clear of the religion's deceits and control agenda. My heart goes out to them all! (Oui, je suis Charlie aussi - MICKEY MOUSE AKBAR!)

In politics, both nationally and internationally, initially some of the 'nasty guys' might briefly become more dominant, because very likely they would come to their senses more slowly than many of the more decent individuals, and so would seek to exploit what they then interpret as a new 'weakness' of their opposition.

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As I have indicate further above, at least, according to my inner inquiry results, deeper consciousness is seeking within reason to soften the blow of the 'shock of the new', by staggering implementation of the various reconfigurations, leaving the 'astral excommunication' till last.
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Good question. The author has a FAZ with the following question:

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What right have you to interfere with my free choice to live the way I want?!!

https://www.clarity-of-being.org/ast...right_have_you

Any such question is completely redundant, because I am not interfering with anyone's free choice - that is, any more than people are generally interfering with each others' free choice, and indeed less so than many! What I have recounted further above has been simply my gaining certain insights, which apparently resulted in an immediate very positive response by deeper consciousness itself towards at last rectifying the mind-numbingly long-standing dreadful great 'astral' and garbage problem. So, anyone who is angry or upset about what is or may be happening would need to direct their protests to deeper consciousness itself (i.e., through their own deepest aspects), not to this funny little man here!

In any case, people generally have great (garbage-sourced) confusions about the meaning and nature of 'free choice'. Total free choice is a meaningless concept, for the very existence of other people, and indeed the presence of physical surroundings at all, greatly restricts one's freedom of choice to start with, even if everyone is seeking to minimize the extent to which they impact on others' freedom of choice. There is a widely-held garbage-sourced serious distortion much in vogue, to the effect that the correct attitude for everyone is 'each to his own', and also the related notion that 'we each create our own realities', and therefore, that everyone has a fundamental right to 'do their own thing' without regard to what is really going on for them, and should fully mind their own business with regard to what is going on for anyone else. So, apparently, if a person chooses to stay in prison or behave in antisocial ways, (s)he is entitled to do so without significant interference from others - even though their behaviour would generally be having harmful impacts for other people and the community at large (such as causing overloading of health and social services, and indeed prisons).

Well, the garbage has virtually everyone on the planet more or less imprisoned and to various extents moronic and puppet-like (though of course the moronic and the puppet-like do not see themselves as such at all!), and, yes, they have a fundamental right to remain imprisoned like that, do they? ... - Well, do they...?

No, they do NOT - even in the slightest degree! Many a drug addict, such as a smoker or regular drinker will claim that he has a right to continue his addiction, supposedly because he 'enjoys' it (Sod the taxpayer who has to pick up the bill for all the medical care necessitated by his thoughtless behaviour!). But that is not at all the voice of the human but the voice of the addiction, and, indirectly, of the garbage, which is controlling him to keep him in that addiction. It is always a pressing need for ALL such people to be taken out of their imprisonment - even dragged out kicking and screaming! - so that at last they can start experiencing some genuine free choice of their own instead of their operating as mere puppets of an interfering and controlling influence. Similarly with all people on the planet. The big change, if it really does come about, would greatly increase, not decrease, people's freedom of choice because they would at long last be free of their garbage interferences and control. They really do have NO right nor opportunity at all to opt out, nor any right to appeal against that increase in their freedom, if it indeed happens - the poor things!
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Sounds a bit like fascism or nazi-ism or whatever it's called. You will be happy!, by decree

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In the section of the article about the changes to look after, the author uses the term, "no-soul" people:
Initially most of these changes would be apparent primarily to the most 'open' and aware people, particularly no-soul people, but some degree of change would occur for everyone, though the less aware people may not necessarily notice it apart from being bewildered at the changes they see occurring in some other people.
Here's the author's meaning of "no-soul":
A no-soul person is one who is a direct incarnation of fundamental consciousness, with no soul programming to limit the extent and 'depth' of his awareness. Such people are rare, and are generally difficult for 'normal' people to understand because of their greater inner freedom and their not being hidebound by the normal run of self-limiting illusory realities and beliefs - so that their outlook and behaviour is distinctly more authentic than is the case with 'normal' people, for whom 'appropriateness' rules the show.

Contrary to almost universally held belief among healers, mystics, psychics and 'New Age' movements, the people with the most deep awareness, 'inner' knowledge and inner freedom, who are all strong healers and have potential to quickly reach enlightenment, are NOT old souls who have evolved over very many soul incarnations, but are direct incarnations of fundamental consciousness itself, WITHOUT souls! It is they who are the pure ones, who have not (yet) got tampered with, distorted and loaded by obfuscational programming by the garbage to reduce the depth of their awareness and increase their level of confusion and misunderstanding of themselves and all other people around them.

https://www.clarity-of-being.org/glossary.htm#no-soul

https://www.clarity-of-being.org/dar...the_human_soul
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Sounds a bit like fascism or nazi-ism or whatever it's called. You will be happy!, by decree

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But I've posted quotes where the author appears to have addressed your concerns...

I don't get your fascism/Nazism allegation at all...

Please explain as much as you can...


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But I've posted quotes where the author appears to have addressed your concerns...

I don't get your fascism/Nazism allegation at all...

Please explain as much as you can...


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"They really do have NO right nor opportunity at all to opt out, nor any right to appeal against that increase in their freedom."

Explains itself. One man's idea of freedom is another's tyranny.

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"They really do have NO right nor opportunity at all to opt out, nor any right to appeal against that increase in their freedom."

Explains itself. One man's idea of freedom is another's tyranny.
I understand what you're saying, but you're quoting him out of context. He's saying that people have no right to harm others, and on that account, if they lose their ability to harm others, that's a good thing. He's saying that the prison's gatekeepers have no right to maintain the harsh prison matrix that they live in, and as a result, we all have to live in. He's saying (and at least you did quote that part...), these prison gate-keepers have "no right to appeal against that increase in their freedom". Surely that's a good thing because it not only allows their own freedom, but it also gives freedom for others because they're not adversely affected by the anti-social person's behaviour.


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More about the author's meaning of "no-soul":
I have now come to understand that, contrary to almost universal belief on the subject, the soul is nothing more than a dysfunctional or pathological manifestation. A truly well functioning person has, instead of a soul, a pure continuum of consciousness extending between the non-duality of fundamental consciousness and the thoroughly dualistic, conceptual, conscious 'mind' - the soul being defined actually by an obstructive 'level' of programming and fixed or rigid preconceptions lying somewhere between the person's 'mind' and the non-duality of fundamental consciousness, and thus distorting and indeed disrupting the continuum of consciousness.

Furthermore, if pure, 'no-soul' people manage to keep sufficiently clear of garbage interferences, at death they would NOT go to any supposed 'Light', nor go anywhere, but would undergo a transition that is almost universally but highly misleadingly called 'recombination with Source'. This term is misleading, because it implies that they had become separate from a supposed source in the first place - a garbage-sourced distortion of the real state of affairs. What really happens for such a person upon death is that their Earthly and physical experiences would simply cease. However, the fundamental identity - in other words the core essence or fundamental 'I'- of the person would remain intact as a micro-aspect of fundamental consciousness, in a state of peaceful harmony and clarity as naked awareness. Nothing in this transition is about light nor Light. It is about fundamental clarity.
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I understand what you're saying, but you're quoting him out of context. He's saying that people have no right to harm others, and on that account, if they loose their ability to harm others, that's a good thing. He's saying that the prison's gatekeepers have no right to maintain the harsh prison matrix that they live in, and as a result, we all have to live in. He's saying (and at least you did quote that part...), these prison gate-keepers have "no right to appeal against that increase in their freedom". Surely that's a good thing because it not only allows their own freedom, but it also gives freedom for others because they're not adversely affected by the anti-social person's behaviour.


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Your misuse of the word "loose" completely changes the meaning from that if you had used "lose". Does pointing that out constitute harm? If there is a correct way of being then your bad spelling needs to be corrected.

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Your misuse of the word "loose" completely changes the meaning from that if you had used "lose". Does pointing that out constitute harm? If there is a correct way of being then your bad spelling needs to be corrected.

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The spelling should have been "lose"... thanks for noticing the error! Post now corrected.


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The spelling should have been "lose"... thanks for noticing the error! Post now corrected.


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Eh?

It still reads: "if they loose their ability to harm others, that's a good thing."

Loose means unleash.

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Ok you've changed it now. But do you see my point? I wasn't being a grammar nazi for nuthin'.

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Your misuse of the word "loose" completely changes the meaning from that if you had used "lose". Does pointing that out constitute harm? If there is a correct way of being then your bad spelling needs to be corrected.
There obviously is a correct way of being, as you've just pointed out. We all need to make adjustments if we wish to improve and become better individuals..
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There obviously is a correct way of being, as you've just pointed out. We all need to make adjustments if we wish to improve and become better individuals..
People make mistakes. It's called life. As a musician I know that some of the best stuff happens in the mistakes.

Added: No need to reply. I'll let you get on with your thread.

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Ok you've changed it now. But do you see my point? I wasn't being a grammar nazi for nuthin'.
I do see your point, but I think you're missing the spirit of the author's observations. He's not asking people to become spelling Nazis or grammar police. He's merely offering information that may help bring understanding. In other words, there's a difference between criticism given in a positive manner, and criticism given in a negative manner. Positive criticism is helpful and comes from a person filled with love. Criticism that comes from negative motivations comes from dark forces. I haven't posted it, but the author talks a lot about these distinctions.


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