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Old 05-01-2019, 12:20 PM   #41
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The dying officer treated for cancer with baking soda

The father of the alkaline diet, Robert O Young, is hailed as an inspiration by one of the UK's most popular food writers, Natasha Corrett, but he faces a jail sentence for practising medicine without a licence. One patient who believed he could cure her cancer, British army officer Naima Houder-Mohammed, paid thousands of dollars for his alkaline treatment, which consisted mainly of intravenous infusions of baking soda.

In May 2009 Naima Houder-Mohammed was commissioned as a captain in the British army. The following year, tragedy struck. Naima was diagnosed with breast cancer.

She received treatment and was declared cancer-free. But in 2012, while training with the army skiing team, it was discovered the cancer had returned. Her condition was so serious she was offered end-of-life care.

"She refused to accept that this was the end," recalls her friend and former fellow officer, Afzal Amin.

"Naima was a fighter. She fought to get through selection for Sandhurst. She fought through Sandhurst and she fought her way through her life in everything she dealt with - army skiing or whatever it may have been. And this for her was another fight in that long list of victories."

As her medical options were limited, Naima did what many of us would do - she turned to the internet for a solution.

She came across Dr Robert O Young, an American alternative health writer selling a message of hope for cancer patients online.

Naima began an email correspondence with him, which reveals how pseudo-science can be used to manipulate the vulnerable.

Young is the author of a series of books called the pH Miracle, which has sold more than four million copies around the world.

These books lay out his "alkaline approach" to food and health which has influenced many others, including the work of the British clean-eating guru Natasha Corrett, whose Honestly Healthy brand promotes her take on an alkaline diet.

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The Cancer Industry is Too Prosperous to Allow a Cure

'We have lost the war on cancer. At the beginning of the last century, one person in twenty would get cancer. In the 1940s it was one out of every sixteen people. In the 1970s it was one person out of ten. Today one person out of three gets cancer in the course of their life.
But cancer is generally a disease of old age. In the 1940s even smokers often died of other things before lung cancer. As average age increases, so do diseases of old age. How many Victorians had dementia? Vanishingly few as most were dead by 65.
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Baking Soda Cancer Treatment (Sodium Bicarbonate)

Dr. Tullio Simoncini is a medical doctor in Italy who has done more than anyone to explore the uses of the baking soda cancer treatment as an alternative cancer treatment. It is known that cancer creates and favors an acid environment and because of this, Dr. Simoncini and others have used sodium bicarbodate as an alkaline therapeutic agent.

The way that acidity seems to protect cancer is not fully understood. It seems that cytotoxic T-cells, which may attack cancer cells under normal conditions, are inactivated in an acid extracellular fluid.[1] Also, the type of acidity that cancer produces, i.e., lactic acid, stimulates vascular endothelial growth factor and angiogenesis.[2] This is like a highway project, which enables a tumor to build the blood vessels that it needs to bring the nutrients for it to survive. So the tumor creates an environment in which it can then exist comfortably.
Baking Soda’s Alkalinity Fights Cancer’s Acidity

At a pH of about 10, sodium bicarbonate is an antidote to this acidity. It can be used clinically in sterile, intravenous form. This is a liquid, sterile bicarbonate of soda. The baking soda cancer treatment is well-tolerated, even with frequent repeated dosing.

We will often recommend that some of our cancer patients take ¼ to ½ teaspoonful in water orally a few times per day as an adjunct to our therapies. This is not suitable for everybody, and may have repercussions in various organ systems if taken to excess. We are not advising anyone to do this unless they have been a patient at our clinic, and we recommend it to specific individuals. Also, there is risk of aluminum contamination with some available brands of baking soda, so one must be cautious with this.

An important part of our intravenous therapies against cancer is sterile, pure, intravenous sodium bicarbodate. This is one of numerous anti-cancer nutrients that we use in our intravenous infusions.
A Concurrence Between Cancer And Candida

Earlier researchers have found a concurrence between cancer and candida. In Dr. Simoncini’s book, Cancer is a Fungus[3] he notes some similarities between the two. Primarily, both are intractable diseases, each very hard to get rid of. Dr. Simoncini notes that each forms a solid mass of low penetrability, unlike the dispersed forms of bacterial and viral infections in the body or body fluids. Dr. Simoncini notes the problem of surface area in addressing these infections. Whereas bacterial and viral infections are dispersed in the solutions of bodily compartments, and likewise, antibiotics and other anti-microbials dispersed in the same solutions have access to each microbe.

A solid mass on the other hand, is approached by one of two routes: either the most superficial layer of the outer surface, or by way of any blood vessels that course through it.

In the case of a neoplasm, the approach of approximating the most superficial layer has the effect of challenging the survival of the cancer only enough to induce the genetic changes that make the tumor more resilient to further assault by the same or similar agents.

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Sodium Bicarbonate Baking Soda and pH Medicine - Dr. Sircus

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But cancer is generally a disease of old age. In the 1940s even smokers often died of other things before lung cancer. As average age increases, so do diseases of old age. How many Victorians had dementia? Vanishingly few as most were dead by 65.
NO, NO, NO ---- ACIDITY (among other things) is a problem of old age. So raise the ph accordingly.
Cancer requires acidity to grow. I have seen 17-year-olds and younger die of cancer.
Please don't insult David by claiming he is not telling the truth about baking soda, (whilst at the same time enjoying his hospitality of the forum for five years without contributing)

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NO, NO, NO ---- ACIDITY (among other things) is a problem of old age. So raise the ph accordingly.
Cancer requires acidity to grow. I have seen 17-year-olds and younger die of cancer.
Please don't insult David by claiming he is not telling the truth about baking soda, (whilst at the same time enjoying his hospitality of the forum for five years without contributing)
I'm not insulting anyone. I have also seen a youngster die of cancer. I didn't say it's exclusively a disease of old age. It's predominantly a disease of old age.

As for contributing to the forum, well, I'm contributing now. You may not like many of my contributions, but like I said, this is a forum where we can debate. Do you really want a hot-house of mutual back-slapping and heated agreement? Debate with politely expressed opposing views is not only important, it's essential.
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Dr. Tullio Simoncini is a medical doctor in Italy who has done more than anyone to explore the uses of the baking soda cancer treatment as an alternative cancer treatment. It is known that cancer creates and favors an acid environment and because of this, Dr. Simoncini and others have used sodium bicarbodate as an alkaline therapeutic agent.
Tullio Simoncini was expelled from the Italian Medical Association and in 2006 was tried and found guilty of fraud and manslaughter http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/2...60521029.shtml

Last year he received another jail sentence for manslaughter http://www.ansa.it/english/news/gene...3fcdf5b3a.html

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The way that acidity seems to protect cancer is not fully understood. It seems that cytotoxic T-cells, which may attack cancer cells under normal conditions, are inactivated in an acid extracellular fluid.[1] Also, the type of acidity that cancer produces, i.e., lactic acid, stimulates vascular endothelial growth factor and angiogenesis.[2] This is like a highway project, which enables a tumor to build the blood vessels that it needs to bring the nutrients for it to survive. So the tumor creates an environment in which it can then exist comfortably.
Solid tumours are acidic https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/....1002/nbm.1644 http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/73/5/1524 and this is due to defective metabolism https://www.nature.com/articles/nrc1478

A far safer way to deal with this would be to use drugs like DCA https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1002/ijc.28114 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/cb400944y or small molecule inhibitors of cancer specific enzymes https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...22202X18320566 https://esmoopen.bmj.com/content/3/Suppl_2/A396.3 http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co...upplement/1725

A clinical trial is testing a topical version of the latter https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03538951

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Earlier researchers have found a concurrence between cancer and candida. In Dr. Simoncini’s book, Cancer is a Fungus[3] he notes some similarities between the two. Primarily, both are intractable diseases, each very hard to get rid of. Dr. Simoncini notes that each forms a solid mass of low penetrability, unlike the dispersed forms of bacterial and viral infections in the body or body fluids. Dr. Simoncini notes the problem of surface area in addressing these infections. Whereas bacterial and viral infections are dispersed in the solutions of bodily compartments, and likewise, antibiotics and other anti-microbials dispersed in the same solutions have access to each microbe.
Cancer isn't a fungus https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk...bunked/#fungus https://respectfulinsolence.com/2008...s-in-oncology/ http://www.123hjemmeside.dk/cancer_is_not_a_fungus
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Old 05-01-2019, 11:07 PM   #48
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Thermion, no amount of 'proof' will work for close minded sheeple.

When My Engineer CURED his Bowel cancer with Bi Carb and Maple Syrup, AS HIS ONLY TREATMENT METHOD I told him he needed to fix the underlying problem of why Fungus is in his body, He ignored this advice. Continued his tin can, boxed, frozen and Margarined food intake as Yes when It came back several years later is was so aggressive there was nothing he or I could do.
This makes me guilty of "manslaughter? It does if you are a registered Doctor it seems.

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2008...s-in-oncology/

This link is a must for the Pharmaceutical Killing Complex.

Cancers are pathogens. The whole cancer scam industry must shame (like thermion) anyone who says otherwise.

Buddha said to not believe anything he said but to go out and prove it to one's self, then you will believe. So many here just Quote the Pharmaceutical Killing Complex propaganda factory.

For any Dr to say 'try Bi Carb' they can be banned, prosecuted and jailed or even killed like the 80 odd alt practitioners in the USA. This is how they keep Thermion Dumbed down like a Sheeple. And he loves it. Gives him reason to be, here on the icke forum.
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But cancer is generally a disease of old age. In the 1940s even smokers often died of other things before lung cancer. As average age increases, so do diseases of old age. How many Victorians had dementia? Vanishingly few as most were dead by 65.
here we go, posting like you are informed when you know jack shit.

You are what you eat and Ronald McDonalds house is doing a roaring trade with kids and cancer they helped create. An ex of mine, her son started in Maccas at 15, virtually lived there, double shifts, nite shifts at the age of 21 got bowel cancer and refused any advice and dies a few months later with the best chemo and frankensurgery free as in you get what you pay for Sickness care otherwise known as health care.

Go back in the cupboard thermion, your ignorance is an embarrassment to Truth seekers everywhere.

As a post script, the mother came to me the other day to thank me for getting her out of the hospital where they were attempting to kill her peacefully. She also followed my CURE and is Cured for it.

The local hospital was a multi building multi story complex in Tamworth OZ until recently as they built an ONCOLOGY division thats BIGGER than the huge hospital next to it. Business is Booming and its geared to killing the weak in a NWO culling program sheeple like thermion supports.

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Interesting. But please explain how something so simple as bi-carb has been overlooked/suppressed as a cure for cancer for so long. Maybe grim could help too.

Cancer cured by bicarb. Known since...?? But kept hidden from the suffering masses. O... K....
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here's my all time favorite report... but first a little prelude... from another post...

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Here's the reports on the device that cures Cancer.

https://dc.uthsc.edu/dissertations/377/

https://journals.lww.com/hnpjournal/...trategy.2.aspx

Another CURE for cancer was invented some 22 years ago

and there are other Uni studies if one can speel gogle

Oh and this same device turns water into oil if one knows how to vary the frequency of the DC going into the Water Module.

Here's the sheeple version...
https://toherbs.com/groundbreaking-bio-energy-research/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5lzb0AXmAE
for those who research such stuff.

This is what makes life BETTER

in the year 2000 I attended many conferences on the latest Cancer Research and other cures.
Whilst in Mexico, Tijuana, I visited ALL the Cancer Clinics. A very thorough investigation of my competition.

These guys need results. Or they go broke.

This is what I REALLY LEARNED

Each Clinic (apart from the Rife frequencies clinics who had a near total failure rate) their SUCCESS RATING depended entirely upon how LITTLE treatment they received in the USSA prior to arrival.

They flatly told incoming patients the percentage success they could expect from Their Alt methods by reading the Med records provided.

This is Private Health Care in a Free Country where a Doctor can prescribe ANYTHING to a Patient as Long as He/She has a Medical License. Unlike the USSA whose FDA Medical Killing Complex dictates what a Doctor can say same as UK and EU etc.

And so Bi Carb and Hydrogen Peroxides is a standard in Mexico as is Ozone therapies and all the rest.

Go out into the real world Thermion and do some f^cking research, instead of your head up your arse and fingers glued to the keyboard.
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Interesting. But please explain how something so simple as bi-carb has been overlooked/suppressed as a cure for cancer for so long. Maybe grim could help too.

Cancer cured by bicarb. Known since...?? But kept hidden from the suffering masses. O... K....
You just want an argument or debate. NO amount of evidence will change your mind here. Its more fun to poke fun at your hard headedness.

Ive had hundreds contact me with your same pathetic logic. "why is it hidden"
Its NOT Hidden, its suppressed with threats of Jail and manslaughter charges. Its been driven 'underground' and maybe thats a good thing... Stupid sheeple need to be treated by the system that created them.
Its a win win for the Sheeple system.

But dont knock something you havent tried... its just stupid. BiCarb cures lots of other things too.
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BiCarb cures lots of other things too.
Its to do with alkaline vs acidic

ie what you talking about.
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But don't knock something you haven't tried... its just stupid. BiCarb cures lots of other things too.
BiCarb cures acid reflux symptoms - at least temporarily, I know! But it doesn't fix the cause - like a hiatus hernia that causes my acid reflux - I know that too.

So what's the fix?? Severe diet changes; an operation to fix the tear; or PPIs? And no, the hernia was not caused by 'lifestyle choices'. It's a 'mechanical', physical problem with my diaphragm.

So, I'm curious to know what alternative treatments would do, not that I deserve any advice, given my attitude thus far...?


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But kept hidden from the suffering masses. O... K....
The suffering masses are created by a system that approves things like 621, Aspartamine, margarine, artificial flavors, there's even a book on all the numbers that kill the MICROBES in the GI that are there to EAT ALL food entering it. (which begs the question that biologists NEVER answer, if Microbes turn all food into shit, How does this actually benefit health? NO food leaves the GI except as a shitty byproduct of the Microbes. You have 4 kilos of Microbes in your GI turning everything you eat into shit that exits the anus... Hint, the answer is in the Entric Nervous system that youve never heard of nor most sheeple )

Profits rest on creating suffering masses. Suffering masses are created by GMO Foods that have residual Monsanto Roundup Microbe Killing abilities injected into the DNA of Soybeans, High Fructose corn syrup and Cotton seed oils marketed as 'vegetable oils'. To name but a few.

To give the pathology of how this aids the very Fungus that decomposes the body when it dies, or how these foods kill the body slowly so the fungus can live in a dying body, destroys every food science report and safety Heart Tick of Approval from a Govt that exists to create jobs as its indicator of success, needs to brainwash the sheeple with advertising pawned off as research.

Thermion says the brainwashing is working
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BiCarb cures acid reflux symptoms - at least temporarily, I know! But it doesn't fix the cause - like a hiatus hernia that causes my acid reflux - I know that too.

So what's the fix?? Severe diet changes; an operation to fix the tear; or PPIs? And no, the hernia was not caused by 'lifestyle choices'. It's a 'mechanical', physical problem with my diaphragm.

So, I'm curious to know what alternative treatments would do, not that I deserve any advice, given my attitude thus far...?


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If you read my GI report and read up on Entric Nervous system youre on the road to self recovery and letting thy food be thy medicine.

All health issues start and end with the health of the Micro-Biome in the Gut.

Its all about BIO ENERGY or Bio Magnetic or energy medicine, the Gut Brain connection and RAW LIVE food.

If you stick 2 nails in a Lemon to get electricity, what happens to the Electricity when one eats the Lemon? does one get electrocuted or does one get ENERGY ?? The body is entirely an Energy system, not a food particle or nutrient system.
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If you stick 2 nails in a Lemon to get electricity, what happens to the Electricity when one eats the Lemon? does one get electrocuted or does one get ENERGY ?? The body is entirely an Energy system, not a food particle or nutrient system.
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But cancer is generally a disease of old age. In the 1940s even smokers often died of other things before lung cancer. As average age increases, so do diseases of old age. How many Victorians had dementia? Vanishingly few as most were dead by 65.
So why are we now getting cancer charities to help children with cancer, when cancer is supposedly attributed to old age?. Why, if true, are children being diagnosed?. What's causing this?. I never saw this year's ago. I guess you could say the real "hidden" reasons are things like vaccines (proven?), mobile phone emissions (wouldn't surprise me, but again where's the proof?), unhealthy eating and lifestyle habits, ie not enough vitamin D from being in the sun (yes possible, but any proof?), wifi, pollution, GMOs (proof?), etc. Maybe it's none of those, but it certainly can't be through smoking, unless kids as young as 10 are smoking.

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